How Speedrunners Bypassed the Death of Flash Games

A Video by Maximum - Download Flashpoint to continue to play flash games after 2020: bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/
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It's been common knowledge for a while that Adobe Flash will be shutting down in 2020 due to its age, numerous security issues, poor performance, and other issues. After December 2020, people will be unable to play flash games in any of the major web browsers (chrome, firefox, edge, internet explorer, and more). There is a relatively large community of speedrunners who set out to complete flash games as fast as possible. Flash games attract speedrunners due to their short length, their simplicity, and their very accessible nature. So this begs the question: When flash dies in 2020, will flash game speedrunning die as well? This is the question that will be answered in this video.
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Music Timestamps:
0:00 - Main Menu - Mario Kart Wii
1:32 - Creative Exercise - Mario Paint
2:52 - Phenom - Modern Vintage Gamer
4:14 - Ultra Necrozma Battle Music - Pokemon Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon
6:00 - Break The Targets - Super Smash Bros. Melee
7:03 - Game Loop - Toxic II
7:51 - In the Hall of the Mountain King - Edvard Grieg
8:34 - Game Loop (Backalley) - Red Ball
9:40 - Race Condition - Modern Vintage Gamer
#maximum #speedrun #flashgame

[@Maximum]

A Couple of Updates: 1. We found a standalone version of flash that allows for the jump in level 10 to work, which is a very great outcome. 2. A lot of people continue to be under the impression that flash games will be unplayable after 2020. This is obviously not true. Do whatever you can to spread the word about flashpoint! bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/

[@steak9738]

How come you never mentioned Ruffle in this video? It's a flash emulator. Is it really not as known about as I thought?

[@iexist1300]

I'm using flashpoint while watching this video. It's so much better for mario 63 without all the lag, and full screen mode is cool even though it can be used to cheat some games like duck life.

[@tuppywareofficial]

old versions of browsers work, like the latest version of chrome supported by windows xp and vista.

[@pendhd649]

I tried opening the standalone flash from the swj file using multiple methods, but none of them worked, can you make a tutorial on how to do that now that flash isn’t being supported?

[@g.s.495]

Thanks for saving my childhood from dying (Flashpoint is cool, man, even in 2022)!

[@natlemonyfam4637]

Everybody Gangsta till fireboy and watergirl touch the green water.

[@idakiiskinen3094]

* mud

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Green water looks like acid instead of mud.

[@MarvinYoani]

@@poweroffriendship2.0 true, mud looks like brownish

[@lameboi1278]

It’s called “green goo”

[@amendoim_zinho6308]

Pretty random

[@Grane1234]

Man, Super Mario 63 was and still is one of my favourite flash games, among many

[@mimple6497]

and Rolling Hero

[@stormy_does_stuff]

And Papa's games

[@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171]

At the time, it was my favorite with Run 2 and Fireboy and Watergirl as #2 and #3

[@AustynL]

Snow Tale is so flippin' underrated, man! It's such a good game.

[@bestberry7332]

So Nitrome is slowly transferring their games to the HTML5 part of their website, which basically runs an HTML5 emulator for flash. I assume they'll all end up there eventually. Great video btw!

[@mariosin3256]

The only Nitrome game/s I can remember off the top of my head are the Bad Ice Cream series.

[@otherlego]

"Jank Browser" is Opera: HOW DARE Y- Bopera: I see nothing wrong with that.

[@MeesterTweester]

I am a very passionate Flash runner. While the mainstream eye might be turned away after 2020, I hope the speedrunning scene for them lives much longer afterwards. The future in uncertain but I hope we can use some sort of old browser version in the future. I have a lot of the same ideas as said in your video. Also I recognize you from us both running Zero Deaths!

[@BowserStrikesEverywhere]

Zero deaths gang

[@futurama3939]

oh hey meester, didn't expect to see ya here. Anyways yeah we runnin 5b on d a projectors pog.

[@MeesterTweester]

Futurama 39 Yeah :)

[@papaspoon1550]

Well its been a little over 2 years and many flash games (especially speedrunning ones) still have a speedrunning scene, some games even got a bigger player base because of flash going away, as it gave attention to flash games again, and us early late 90's - early 2k's wanted to feel nostalgia before it was terminated. I almost feel bad for zoomers, they'll never get to experience the joy of flash.

[@MeesterTweester]

@@papaspoon1550 For sure

[@harlos_is_cool3641]

2020 has gone to far

[@Gerbungis_1]

Finally. A person of class, you showed a clip of blooms td 3

[@Maximum]

wait WTF i didn't do that ok maybe i did

[@sire_kirbz]

@Miloš Đošić why did i find a random learn 2 fly guy?

[@sire_kirbz]

@Miloš Đošić agree

[@Xnoob545]

@@Maximum can i play red ball on mobile

[@Vertic03]

That's some high quality content you're producing

[@Flunkass]

yes

[@Cristian_Sub]

Hi

[@Cristian_Sub]

U good wr

[@kfoley275]

Just as a sidenote, Newgrounds has a flash player that lets you not only play swf files you have downloaded, but also the files on the site itself.

[@Maximum]

Good to know!

[@crypticpoke6805]

Thank god I can still play Super Mario 63 after December

[@Shalakor]

@@Maximum And they're planning to make a freeware browser plugin of it as well as possibly releasing it to other flash game sites to implement locally.

[@cst1229]

@@Shalakor That's I think Ruffle, which is completely separate aside from the fact that Newgrounds supports it.

[@SOOWOOGEE]

How does this video not get much attention? You earned a subscribe from me, bud!

[@SOOWOOGEE]

uuuu i think i just became a og??????

[@cst1229]

That osu sbubby at 3:34 tho

[@dualdarkelu8495]

osuHOW

[@cst1229]

@@dualdarkelu8495 osu!how

[@Dolphin002]

Fun fact: You can still play Flash games if you change your PC's date to anything before January 12

[@Piopollo]

Until a certain point, since some pages stop running correctly if you change the date too much.

[@futurama3939]

while yes there's a time window to this, do it too after some time and you get SSL Certificates expiring and the browser not wanting to connect, however the more pressing thing is that browsers are forcibly disabling flash. Firefox looks to do so in version 85, Jan 26th. And chromium-base (Chrome, Opera, Edge et al.) Look to have disabled flash support now with Chrome 88 being merged into stable on the 19th. Any chromium-based browsers if not now will remove flash support in the next immediate chromium update.

[@AvoxionYT]

From personal experience, if you had disabled Windows updates beforehand it will work too. And if it's too late, just look up Ruffle, it's an extension that lets you run flash.

[@TheGaming100]

I change the date at all and the entire browser fails to run lol

[@GMPranav]

I have always used the Flash player projector for playing flash games offline. Its really great.

[@cst1229]

Newer versions have the same killswitch as browser Flash.

[@GMPranav]

@@cst1229 Use old version then lol.

[@cst1229]

@@GMPranav Yeah i know.

[@owls.]

in my opinion, it's most likely when people started playing Fortnite, since over 70% of ppl were playing flash in 2017, and only 17% played flash in 2019.

[@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171]

They should have done it when less than 10% played it so less people worry about it.

[@archived1573]

Adobe: Flash speedrunning will become dead EazySpeezy: We'll see about that

[@Useuckaqwa.]

Mobile?

[@Motorjam]

10:08 me irl

[@bnmc]

same widepeepoSad

[@wsabcha]

I like the part when you said "editing pee code" haha. pee.

[@Maximum]

ITS P-CODE WILLIAM

[@wsabcha]

ItsMaximum hehe pee.

[@Maximum]

@@wsabcha >:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( not funy

[@bnmc]

@@Maximum yes funy very funy maximum its

[@ckqk]

stop shaggy hair guy not funni 😠 also you said the letter a that is in among us game so u sayd sus letter 😳

[@dabasil]

Flash sacrificed itself to end 2020's disaster, F's in the chat bois

[@Mr.Carrot]

apparently y8 has it's own browser that supports flash. I don't know how many games it will support but when I searched a random flash game but it said to download it, and it is a way to play flash games on a browser in 2021 edit: the basilisk browser that flashpoint uses also supports flash.

[@Randomno2]

I want to point out that Club Penguin speedrunning is still active, but not on the original leaderboards. Since Club Penguin was such a big game no private server can perfectly recreate it which is part of the reason to leave the old leaderboard as it is. As you mention, accurately running games may become an issue in the future. Some alternative Flash players may never be completely reliable.

[@Maximum]

I am aware of this, however there wasn't a necessity to include it in this particular video.

[@shellshockhkmk7816]

One of my favourite and first flash games was Zombotron. Which was made into a proper full on steam game. The only thing bad about it is the ending.

[@wsabcha]

i like the part where you talked about flash. really epic. nice video.

[@Maximum]

hmm i dont really remember that part but thanks anyways

[@anti79]

I still remember when it was called Macromedia Flash..

[@Flunkass]

6:13 Beautiful gem on the right

[@Raylightsen]

Amazing intro. Like everyone is daily watching news about flash games.

[@m_rissspeedruns1231]

I’ve recently been wondering if runs done on flashpoint would be allowed onto any flash game leaderboard

[@cst1229]

Probably yes because they're just standalone flash player runs basically.

[@Livestreamlurker]

2:29 why does former world chess champion Anatoly Karpov want my data?

[@firname395]

Please do more videos like this it was interesting

[@singles3rvingjack]

Dawn of the FINAL DAY (6 Hours Remain)

[@ricape7160]

Good video :)

[@Maximum]

ty :)

[@KoalaBread]

max changed the title and thumbnail thinking we wouldnt notice

[@frozenpeak1524]

you left out my boi run 1

[@CirclesnSquares4990]

Who else used to remember other flash game website adds in a flash game website

[@phantom-chan2940]

the run this time button on crome makes flash playable

[@Cerise__]

If you dont Miss Flash... Dont talk to me

[@Remyria]

3:35 osuHOW also, I'm so glad I stumbled across your video, I thought I would never be able to play these flash games

[@acid4096]

THANK YOU. I CAN FINALLY RELIVE MY GOLDEN YEARS.

[@TuxerTuxar]

No more Riddle School? Jonbro:NO. DOWNLOAD IT ON GAMEJOLT

[@uzlkav6218]

you have to enable editing in config to see that button

[@jakemadison207]

I've played mobility on cool math and on one level I think I have opimised it so much that my best is 15 seconds flat.

[@jakemadison207]

Ok.

[@jakemadison207]

Hi

[@AliceDevil7490]

The real question is will the games on comdotgames survive this purge

[@werlesonalencar2330]

Dude! I didin't understand the Nitrome part. Do you have a video about this?

[@haronka]

What can you do with games that are like Red Ball and contain URL-check?

[@BFDIDavidFan69]

Some of my school laptops have the old Microsoft website and it works

[@Mr.Carrot]

would it be possible to play nitrome games on flashpoint today?

[@fragmister]

I don't know about you but, flash runs flawlessly on Firefox for me? Also @ItsMaximum, where do you think you could find the best version of Red Ball 4 for pc?

[@ViniKabos]

just doing some kingdom rush speedruns on standalone flash, cause the premium content (which has a massive timesave help) cannot be purchased anymore and flashpoint hasnt added it yet (also Ironhide doesnt care about the flash version anymore, so isnt a issue)

[@user-fp3mn3dw7x]

There are still some Chinese browsers that are based on chromium supporting flash and some Chinese flash based online game still running

[@arthurgroll4906]

Seeing the code I remember back then when I used to edit Terraria's opcodes in Cheat Engine 💀

[@st1nkypoofart]

thanks

[@bitcoin-investment]

How do you do the HTML method with red ball in google?

[@littlebigjared]

Anyone remember playing Penguin Diner?

[@unseengamer6464]

When I can't open flashpoint because it isn't suppported on chromeOS *cries myself to sleep*

[@vistaman1]

use ruffle

[@jedecilos322]

@@vistaman1 Ruffle is just a worse version of flashpoint because it can’t support actionscript 3.

[@IGNACY-fp8zo]

Would an old version of a browser still run flash?

[@arttukettunen5757]

It didn't die in 2020 It died in 2021

[@tekno679]

flashpoint runs even on linux, it's amazing!

[@oakleyblade9400]

only 5,000 views? jeesh. ur high quality lol

[@astrofish6163]

can someone go through what he did to play that nitrome game? I wanna play final ninja

[@Maximum]

join the nitrome speedrunning discord www.speedrun.com/skywire2/thread/s0ama

[@astrofish6163]

@@Maximum love you man thanks

[@Jommo213]

The only reason I didn't know about Flash's death is because I didn't know what Flash was lol.

[@terraanber5984]

Is double edged nitrome? Cuz it's my favourite flash game

[@blockyooghofficial]

well i mean i saw this guy speedrun redball so i trust him

[@divingboardlord]

ahh yes. i will not be using this entertainment that i just saw to play nitrome games on flashpoint

[@krakios3950]

When you find the video too late and Flashpoint is too big to have on your computer

[@Maximum]

Flashpoint Infinity takes up less than a gigabyte

[@drim3945]

oh no, how i can't get .swf after a blocking flash?

[@springbertstudios7005]

You must not have heard of riffle riffle is a emulator of Flash that's one way it can be played along with the new grounds player

[@kisaragi-hiu]

Nitrome could just sell their classics on Steam and bring in a fuck ton of money that way. I don't think they understand how widespread their games were. I don't even remember their name, but their intro was immediately recognizable. (I'm pretty sure being based on Flash does not disqualify a game from being sold on Steam, right?)

[@Maximum]

Similar to Nintendo, Nitrome clearly doesn't like easy money.

[@macrro]

@@Maximum they like the hard way huh?

[@asiancynical4682]

You can speedrun club pengeuin? I wanna join

[@fyran6453]

I'm glad flash games returned avaible

[@virtualrealitea]

When you can't open Flashpoint launcher because it's not supported on macOS... **cries**

[@ericlove3109]

you can bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/datahub/Mac_Support

[@blazeroberts6360]

Y'all remember primary games

[@smileguy9527]

My opera still has flash...

[@Maximum]

It will likely not be that way for too much longer

[@smileguy9527]

@@Maximum Oh shi-

[@marissasalalila4755]

In asia flash is still available but its much slower than before

[@tylert528]

me when i see that the terraria fargo's souls mod (without the dlc because echdeath) is possible: 3:35

[@biygas]

camp lazlo paintcan panic speedrun any% 0:04 seconds

[@Justanormalperson621]

2:28 w a i t w h a -

[@user-ju7uk6tz6z]

Now we have a Ruffle!

[@darkfox_]

gaming

[@ectongamer2084]

Wait If those browser won't open Flash, HOW ABOUT MY BROWSER BRAVE, I Don't want Flash Player to me Gone, God Help us Please :(, Were going to miss you flash

[@Maximum]

Eventually ruffle, a flash emulator, will release, which will allow for web play. Search it up on github.

[@ectongamer2084]

@@Maximum Btw when you download flash games will it still be deleted?

[@cst1229]

@@ectongamer2084 No because of course, you have the file.

[@makemaggaraaagd6820]

Or just use SuperNova Player. It is safe and on kongregate

[@Thiscooldude123]

imma spend my time playing papa freezeria

[@kales901]

i cant open the app

[@redmax8734]

right

[@EpochIsEpic]

Unexpected osu!

[@drippymissouri]

You forgot about coolmath games

[@SAD1F]

I miss zombotron :/

[@Afdusrt]

flash player roms

[@ABCARWGFtoC]

3:45

[@jomogaming2]

News Flash! (heh) Commenting in May 2021. You can't download the standalone Flash player anymore. I was luckily able to download and play Super Mario 63 by other means, but it still sucks.

[@Maximum]

You can still find the newest one at www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/debug_downloads.html

[@jomogaming2]

@@Maximum oh, thank you

[@meditor0181]

5:46 are you typing a bad word ??????????? What the F

[@punu3675]

Why does it matter unless you're like 4.

[@cyan_studio7051]

Flash player crashed guys this is so sad

[@danilostahl8178]

im so dumb I literally can't download it

[@bIahaj._.]

Flash games are playable

[@dualdarkelu8495]

osuHOW

[@Blueskies2513]

ruffle

[@h0tea]

3:35 osuHow

[@user-ob9hx9do5c]

What

[@panglyphs2685]

I didn’t know flash point existed so bye

[@AkaObbies]

osu!how

[@God-qj7jl]

Thank injectors