How strong is Cooler? (Dragon Ball Z)

[@michaelbaker713]

That note about the movie being canon to the anime was cool and I’m glad you mentioned it

[@christopherjones5827]

Cooler is Cooler that is about right.

[@DragonBallzMoviesHD]

Goku received a zenkai before fighting cooler

[@75JUNAKI]

Was it said?

[@muanims]

@@75JUNAKI yes Sayians get stronger when they are closer to death

[@75JUNAKI]

@@muanims I know (especially on Namek Saga) but I don’t remeber any statement’s saying that he got a Zenkai in the Strongest vs Strongest movie.

[@muanims]

@@75JUNAKI reminder that the movies pull alot from the actual series Goku getting injured and then gets a zenkai Boost is probably taken from the frieza arc

[@75JUNAKI]

@@muanims No, I mean I don’t remember it being pointed out that he got a Zenkai-Boost in the Strongest vs Strongest movie.

[@SMOKEGOCRAZZY]

Nice video man I agree with your scaling ! …you deserve more subs ngl🙏🏿

[@yeikelamores6085]

Cooler is minimal multi solar system to galaxy, since Frieza destroyed a galaxy in the anime and Cooler scales him massively above that.

[@Solgrem]

Good editing bro. Keep it up

[@JC3178]

Ah, it sure is fun figuring out the power of characters that don't have legitimate power levels. All things considered, I'd say this was a good attempt at finding a definitive level for Cooler

[@marshallyoungmandy8434]

I heard an argument about Goku using Kaioken against Cooler in this movie, but it's invisible. However you can hear it. Also in episode 91 Goku uses an invisible Kaioken against 50% Freeza, since we never see the aura yet, King Kai and the others state that he was already using it.

[@Goji-C]

You can scale cooler off frieza tanking the explosion of namek which was calced at around solar system lvl

[@ten-thousandbees8453]

I completely agree with this.

[@alexfraser8352]

Isn't Bojack Unbound canon to the anime as well?

[@GreatSwordLover]

10th anniversary coming for Dokkan lonks

[@abaidaladwan678]

If that so then goku's power level at the first cooler came his power should be at 12 million to make it work to this 6 billion

[@simp4kate_denson639]

Cept all thr dbz movies 1 to 13 is in an alternative timeline

[@Perfectcell1313]

4th Form Cooler is at least Solar System Final Form Multi Solar System Metal Cooler is Low Galaxy

[@kyuiFF]

Well pretty sure he’s the strongest in the universe

[@75JUNAKI]

I agree

[@willemcenter8649]

Lowballed his speed. Highballed the actual numbers but ranges of power seem good

[@ScoobaSteveNC]

cooler better than broly

[@Zredits-zph]

But gohan has a tail😑

[@rrose9161]

Um a kioken times 20 Kamehameha would equal the multiplier of ssj ( I.e. 50 times base) so it has to be a kioken times10 Kamehameha instead ( considering that ssj bodied cooler)

[@My_Master_Waves]

Cooler movie came out on July 20, 1991 when Goku was still fighting Frieza in the anime who powered up to 100% just a week prior and even in the manga Goku hasn't returned from Yardrat yet(manga chapter where Goku came to earth came out like 4 day before movie got released). The movie takes place around may of 763 of db timeline which is less than half a year after the fight with Frieza which happened in december of 762 within DB timeline. Trunks is supposed to show up in august of 764, so the movie takes place more than a year before Trunks arrives. So yeah it's not Gohan who has wrong hair you are just wrong about movie timeline placement. That is why both Goku and Cooler don't know instant transmission in the first Cooler movie and why Goku can't easily go SSJ, because movie creators didn't know Goku would be able to easily go SSJ after his return as that hasn't happened even in the manga yet, by movie creators logic Goku in the movie is just Namek saga Goku who returned to earth right after defeating Frieza and it takes place instead of Yardat since they had no idea at the time how things will unfold and how exactly he'll return. That is also why Cooler comes to avenge Frieza and does not mention avenging his father because that hasn't happened yet, and the reason this version of Goku can keep up with Cooler is because Cooler is weaker than Frieza(remember the dates when movie was released and Takao Koyama said movie begun production 6 month prior to that so even in the manga Frieza hasn't shown 100% yet) and is only stronger than Frieza after he transforms into his final form which is stated in daizenshuu 6 and 7 which perfectly lines up with statement from the movie where Goku says that Cooler is stronger than Frieza only after Cooler transforms into his final form. And you using Coolers "he might have" and saying base Goku>SSJ on namek is taking things wayyy out of context, those are not definitive statements, it's just Cooler being impressed. Now with this information it's very clear it's not Goku being super strong nor Cooler, it's Goku right after namek fighting someone who is not even stronger than Frieza until after the transformation. So it's not surprising Cooler is impressed by Goku, even on namek Goku with KKx20 had power level of 60 million(and yes he was using it the same way he was vs Frieza, all movies just mirror canon events).

[@extremelegendsupreme4596]

There’s something you forgot, when goku states cooler > frieza this should also include mecha frieza since goku stated that he sensed friezas power when trunks fought him.mecha friezas supernova was stated to be 10x stronger than the one he used to destroy namek meaning mecha friezas full power would be 600 million (frieza 50% = 60 million) this means that base gokus power in movie 5 would be 600 million at least instead of 120 million.so these characters are 5 times stronger than what you said they were.

[@lonkstakes]

The attack that frieza used to destroy namek was nowhere near friezas' full power so the 10x thing barely matters for Mecha Freiza.

[@extremelegendsupreme4596]

@@lonkstakes it was near friezas full power 😂 frieza was at 50% power when he used the death ball to destroy namek.mecha frieza is stated to be 10 times stronger than that.meaning is power level would be 600 million as 50% frieza was 60 million.

[@lonkstakes]

@@extremelegendsupreme4596 Yeah. But that attack was not 50% friezas full power. That attack was literally weaker than first form friezas supernova.

[@nuclear_angelx1111]

easy. between ssj1 and ssj2.

[@thirdworldrenegade]

I like how you conveniently left this part out... Goku: Incredible... his ki is even greater than Frieza's! It took Cooler reaching his Final Form for Goku to come to that conclusion. Based on the context, Fourth Form Cooler and Base Goku aren't as powerful as Final Form Frieza at 100 percent. According to V-Jump, Final Form Cooler has a power level of 470 million. That falls more in line with the narrative as well as the scaling, since the movies scale higher. Super Saiyan Goku would have to be above 470 million which is well above what he would've been in the main continuity by this point.

[@lonkstakes]

That Vjump article is for a video game😭

[@thirdworldrenegade]

@@lonkstakes I'm aware. Just saying that it falls in line with the scaling better than the numbers you provided. Your figures make no sense narratively and you failed to bring up the quote I mentioned in the previous comment. I can see why, since it negates everything you said.

[@extremelegendsupreme4596]

Cooler outright stated twice that base goku>>>frieza

[@mansaw100]

Lord slug is not stronger then Frieza …

[@75JUNAKI]

I believe it was stated by Kaio sama himself.

[@madhav6001]

@@75JUNAKI Lol it was only stated by the movie makers who thinks that frieza power level is only 85 000

[@kristopherdorsey8561]

@@madhav6001 that version of frieza probably was suppressing even his first form power which is insane to think about which is why his power level is so low is because he was stronger than most of the Galaxy maybe even in the universe makes sense when you think about it.

[@yeikelamores6085]

​@@madhav6001I think it's pretty clear that Slug is at least close to Frieza's final form on Namek, since in movie 3,Turles easily destroyed a Goku who was close to 1 million power and that was just a bite of the power fruit,Later in the movie Turles ate multiple more fruits and increased his power a lot, saying that he is as strong as 10 million power is not crazy,And in the next movie Goku blatantly says that Slug base is by far stronger than any enemy he knows.