How Strong is Sam Sulek v The Tren Twins?

How Strong is Sam Sulek v The Tren Twins?
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[@StrengthUniverse]

Thanks for watching. I hope you enjoyed the video 👍

[@disgusted78]

So, the Twins Strength has yet to be realized, as I am the guy who worked them up for the Power comp they did, about 17 months ago. Mike hit 501 at 198, and that is impressive. Rumor has it, that they are return to power, prep, and coaching in the Conjugate Method. As long as it is ok, with the guys, i will keep you posted as to developments in their training. Blessings.

[@orlandoramos1878]

How come nobody don't do nothing about Eddie Guerrero

[@andrewkerr5797]

Do video on quin scot.

[@therustedshank9995]

So impressive how the Tren Twins are able to go toe to toe with Sam despite being natty

[@StrengthUniverse]

😂

[@try99900]

theyre not

[@PozzoPersonal]

​@@try99900r/woosh

[@try99900]

@@PozzoPersonal mb

[@josephhumbles140]

@@try99900idiot

[@NikKrystalo]

Something to note is that incline dumbell is usually the first movement for Sam in a workout but the twins use it as a second lift after burning out on flat benching for atleast 5 to 7 sets

[@ryanowen2195]

This is true he's not comparing which set they are on just the set it's self. But also the range of motion plays a HUGE part and tren twins win on that, in my opinion.

[@WJHandyDad]

I would argue those 9 slow, controlled incline db presses are equal or better than the 18 fast ones

[@StrengthUniverse]

I think they are closer than it initially appears, however Sam's best Incline bench press is 405lbs for 7 compared to Mike who has admitted he's never managed a single rep of 405, his best was 365

[@ictdpowerstroke4591]

Sam's weren't controlled? 🙄

[@Greatzinger67]

You'd argue, and you'd be wrong

[@Papa-kj3eh]

​@@Greatzinger67no he wouldn't. Mike did full reps. Sam does cheater reps.

[@andrewlemay2491]

@@Papa-kj3eh sam is deff stronger

[@him-sj2fs]

sam is 264 on this bulk

[@StrengthUniverse]

He’s packed on a lot of size since his cut

[@him-sj2fs]

@@StrengthUniverse yes he has

[@bomb8877]

On his recent bulk he reached close to 275lb

[@levonschaftin3676]

it'll be interesting to see the future of these fellas.

[@idkwhatsmyname1027]

There is no future for them 💀

[@levonschaftin3676]

@@idkwhatsmyname1027 that's pretty much what I'm getting at. not discounting their strength but yeah... perhaps a tad irresponsible method of pursuing it.

[@MonstersFlyinginTheSky]

@@TobyFromGTlol u named two people out of the hundreds that have died truly a smooth brain

[@jasonlommen4769]

Broken and crippled. That’s how.

[@johnjobber2219]

Let see if they make 30

[@Andremetheartist]

I feel like it still goes to Sam since he doesn't train for powerlifting and is still able to put on such massive numbers. Essentially if he trained for powerlifting his Wilks score would probably be higher. I think this argument can also be made for his bench as an example.

[@reissnewlin3758]

Sam's incline dumbbell bench is insane 150x18 would challenge some strongmen also he can def squat over 700 he has done 545x9 and 485x14.

[@Vipinnnn17]

Well not many strongman can do 256 for 1 either from Mike :)

[@Yup3255h]

He’s never squatted 700

[@blase1856]

His incline bench is indeed very good, but strongmen don't prioritize incline bench which is why they are similar in strength to sam. However they do more flat bench and are a lot stronger in that region

[@rekan4277]

@@Yup3255h Grats for being able to read

[@EVEN-ls9ic]

@@Yup3255h "he def can" ,you failed to read his comment correctly

[@sbdftw1702]

Sam is ungodly strong tbh. If he competed in powerlifting, dude would probably total 2k 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@leomanning-farnon3307]

Love the content! I think another good idea for a video would be Dr Mike Irsaetel vs Coach Greg Doucette. Who is stronger. Thanks again for all the great videos.

[@g-man2507]

Incredible analysis and attention to detail.

[@StrengthUniverse]

Thank you, honestly appreciated

[@oliverkeely4767]

You can double the twins lifts because there’s 2 of them

[@dadedraak]

Sam is 265 now, but he was 240 after his cut not too long ago.

[@DominicSchrank]

Thank you for making my video

[@StrengthUniverse]

No problem, thanks for the suggestion

[@TestHardware823]

i would say that accounting bodyweight ratio to height sam sulek wins

[@TonyTheTruckGuy]

Considering the mechanical disadvantage Sam has of being taller, plus the fact he's up against 2 people, he's very impressive.

[@mangoTV6969]

Sam is only like 4 inches taller

[@TonyTheTruckGuy]

@@mangoTV6969 That’s a big difference

[@mangoTV6969]

@@TonyTheTruckGuy its not a big difference + its about proportions

[@TonyTheTruckGuy]

@@mangoTV6969 You’re wrong, but ok.

[@mangoTV6969]

@@TonyTheTruckGuy so if a guy with short legs and a guy with long legs do squat, and the guy with short legs is taller, then he still has a disadvantage

[@Future_WSM]

Can you do Andrey Smaev vs Pavlo Nakonechnyy, both are units

[@LanGust8]

Upper body strength is unreal with andrey, legs might be different story.

[@sdfsdfsfsf5484]

pavlo was stronger

[@rtsbass7829]

That was literally the only video that I watched and immediately subscribed!

[@StrengthUniverse]

Thanks, much appreciated!

[@litonyayo1666]

so 2 trens equal one sulek?

[@davidkosiba624]

I refuse to believe that these guys are my age lol

[@Aidanjacksonkightly_reptiles]

Sam never really trains to be strong tbf so pound for pound he's always gonna struggle, that said he's still an absolute titan

[@crackedoutofmymind-h8m]

pound for pound tren twins take the dub

[@elliottave46]

Another great vid 💪

[@StrengthUniverse]

Appreciate it!

[@damiensmith9240]

Another comparison I'd be keen to see, is Big Z vs Biby, particularly across as many pressing movements that you can find.

[@TylerTidwell-dy8uc]

I really like the videos so far

[@TheBrainfsck]

Only half of the number of Sam's half reps should count!

[@edenthurstans5372]

Range of motion is a massive difference in bench and squats

[@rickychapman6398]

Well, a case could be made for the twins actually training power for their meets. Whereas, Sam only body builds.

[@StrengthUniverse]

The Twins only prepped for 4 days for that one and only meet; however I do think that their standard "powerbuilding" routine is more aimed at strength compared to Sam

[@rickychapman6398]

@@StrengthUniverse Ah, okay, did not know that. I retract my statement. 🤣

[@DominicSchrank]

Thank you for the video I totally agree

[@Itsme-xu5ck]

Sam def won the squat lol he also had no belt

[@StrengthUniverse]

I agree, I did make a point of mentioning Sam used no belt or knee sleeves

[@Itsme-xu5ck]

@@StrengthUniverse yes

[@Yup3255h]

Hell no

[@Itsme-xu5ck]

@@Yup3255h Bro what

[@basicmeme1040]

Sulek is feb 7 2002

[@Klepzeiker1984]

I should be 1 braincell vs 2 braincell's

[@AerialAudioscape]

Imagine if Sam wasn’t natty🔥

[@StrengthUniverse]

😂

[@trentruck]

sam squat pr is 585 for 8! but the footage is very unpopular but u can find it on his tt page

[@StrengthUniverse]

Thank you. he seems to have removed a lot of posts from instagram which left me searching his KZbin channel. I think I found the video on TT while writing this

[@davidselawsky6620]

2 reps w 90 pound dumbells yeah

[@CyberWisdom2.0]

I appreciate for using KGs

[@AnnouncerSo2]

1:59 on that lift Sam had a small injury on his chest

[@Blazedshuggs]

Sam was hitting alot kore reps on his curls

[@pbkimblee1858]

Do Rondel Hunte vs John Haack

[@Morris.Andrew]

I will be honest considering that sam suleks best incline bench press set is 405x8 at his strongest, I would love to see what he could do on flat bench even for just one time if we never got to see it again. Because he is string, it would just be entertaining to see in my opinion Edit: Sam definitely could not do 549 on incline bench, whatever that website you used to calculate that 1rm its very unlikely and unrealistic.

[@StrengthUniverse]

Please pay better attention. The calculation clearly shows a max incline of 486lbs. The 549 is his predicted best on Flat bench

[@DrillNews]

Sam’s best squat set I’ve seen was his 495 x14 in the uk gym, this would probs work out stronger than mikes 666lbs x1

[@cpt_crazy219]

High reps is one thing a 1rm is a skill aswell doesn't mean sam can squat that much without training 1rm

[@DrillNews]

@@cpt_crazy219 yeah not necessarily but most likely

[@patrickmurphy5842]

Sam did not complete a single rep of the incline press. If it doesnt stop on the chest it is not a rep.

[@Sonic_1000]

1 rep max Sam would crush the Tren Elves.

[@marcochavezjr9180]

I remember Sam saying he's one rep max on flat bench was 450

[@PiTeKCraft]

I use this website too

[@StrengthUniverse]

It's an interesting website but some of the strength standards are crazy e.g there is no division of natural, enhanced or equipped lifters

[@ianhale8754]

sam was squatting with his heels on a 45 lb plate

[@StrengthUniverse]

As is shown on screen: "Elevated heels"

[@majicogarcia8417]

Please do Mariusz Pudzianowski VS Žydrūnas Savickas !

[@StrengthUniverse]

I made this one nearly 3 years ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKbdmq1ni5mXaK8

[@LanGust8]

Great video, sam is nowhere near 180cm tho. I know internet lists him that way, but still i had to outline that bs.

[@StrengthUniverse]

Yes I agree, I thought he was closer to 5'9 or 10 but as with all my videos, I show the athletes "billed" height

[@Chencho7613]

Sam is like twice their size😂😂

[@DeadFrozeKorro]

Actually i am pretty sure they are the same height. Where did you get their height from? They should both be 5'6

[@StrengthUniverse]

Why should they both be 5'6"? There's quite clearly a difference in height between them

[@DeadFrozeKorro]

@@StrengthUniverse i was very confident but misinformed. Im so sorry ;(

[@patrickmurphy5842]

if the weight cant be held at the final point of contraction then it is likely being lifted using momentum - look at the rows from both of them.....

[@christasmith6004]

Mike tren has benched 565, at his height and size that is impressive

[@CohenGilbert1]

Andrey smeav vs Leonidas arkona

[@oooooba8343]

sam said he has done 6 plates for 8 reps on squats before.

[@StrengthUniverse]

Yes he has but it's a very obscure video that someone pointed me in a direction of after I made this

[@Micahthehuman]

Can you please make a video on kya mints vs jacksfit,it would be quite humorous

[@StrengthUniverse]

I've made a note for a future video

[@Micahthehuman]

@@StrengthUniverse thanks dude

[@stephenbachman132]

Sam is stronger. But it wouldn't be by much

[@wisetheman1950]

Sure you have to consider weight when comparing them but you should allso consider height. Tren twin' arms and legs are so short that their range of motion is much shorter than sams

[@defeatisfinal]

Do Bobb Matthews vs Rondel Hunte

[@dustinturley35]

Excellent Sam!!!

[@alexurdov]

Sam actually has an old clip on his TikTok squatting 585 for 8

[@StrengthUniverse]

Yes I got it yesterday.

[@irontusk5691]

Sam's also on way more gear

[@damiensmith9240]

Stuck for ideas? Really scraping the bottom of the barrel here! 🤣 How about JPS vs Larry Wheels?

[@b1rd882]

The tie shouldn’t of went to Sam since Sam was at failure and Chris had just stopped so by that Chris. Plus of dont another

[@sym_riot1276]

I’ve been talking about since for like 2 years

[@giuseppelucido5780]

IN THE NEXT VIDEO ANDREY SMAEV VS LEONIDAS ARKONA💪👌

[@murraypaul2337]

Larry wheels was much stronger at 21

[@StrengthUniverse]

He was dedicated to powerlifting

[@Blackwhiggahigga20]

So for incline db press, Mike does a full rep and gets nearly the same amount of reps done wit 150 pound dumbbells, and Sam does half reps and barely passed mike on reps, and same ends up stronger? That makes no sense

[@StrengthUniverse]

How on earth is 9 reps nearly the same amount as 18? it wasn't even close. This result is also confirmed (not in the video) by the fact Sam does 405 for 7 reps on the incline press, while Mike struggles to do 365 and has never done a single rep of 405

[@Blackwhiggahigga20]

@@StrengthUniverse I’m saying barely because Sam is doin half reps. Also I’m talking about incline dumbbell press not barbell incline press

[@StrengthUniverse]

@@Blackwhiggahigga20 I know what you are talking about. Incline DB and barbell work the exact same muscle groups, therefore I mentioned Sam v Mike on the incline Barbell press to evidence the fact that Sam is considerably stronger in this lift.

[@hyper_vipex8143]

7 july??

[@sun6262-]

muscle guy vs strong guys

[@cotiyconejo]

Sam is strong 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@sun6262-]

@@cotiyconejo muscle guy beats strong guys all day

[@aaronspratt267]

The real question is will any of these young men live to see the age of 40? I like them and find their videos entertaining, but I am concerned for their long term health.

[@Ozzyyyyyy95]

Tren twins train to failure did u account that into the first bicep curl? Chris looked more fatigued that sam

[@StrengthUniverse]

Summarised at the end of the video. They all train to failure but the Tren Twins follow a Powerbuilding routine, regularly training in lower rep ranges and performing 1 rep maxes which gives them an advantage. If Sam trained the same way, he would likely be even stronger

[@dogenaire69420]

My favorite soy girls

[@lvn4229]

2:56 does that also factor in the squat suit he used too to help assist?

[@StrengthUniverse]

It wasn't a "squat suit", it's called a singlet and is worn by all powerlifters

[@frankk1050]

The maker of these useless videos reminds me of a popular 80s song: Too Much Time on my Hands

[@StrengthUniverse]

Look at the state of your videos

[@davidselawsky6620]

Mike never did 565. Think thats wrong.

[@StrengthUniverse]

It's correct. Please visit the Tren Twins YT channel and see the video "CHEST DAY: STRONGER BY THE DAY"

[@Yup3255h]

Yes he did dummy

[@dennisjones4269]

They’re bodybuilders not powerlifters. They don’t train for strength. So who cares how strong they are. It’s shape they’re interested in, and couldn’t care less about strength. Pointless vid

[@captainshato5902]

Your comment is 10x more pointless

[@levonschaftin3676]

here's a thought - DON'T WATCH if you aren't interested in the content. buffoon.

[@jasongriggs9528]

Context is key this channel focuses on the strength of athletes regardless bodybuilding or strongman

[@real_talk8749]

Size=strength you clown

[@dennisjones4269]

@@captainshato5902 10x more means this post is at least at some stage, pointless? Genius bro, just genius 👏