How the End of Roe v. Wade is Impacting Americans

Gianna Toboni meets with politicians, abortion providers and women to understand how drastically the country could change in a post-Roe world.
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[@andrewmiller6272]

Some people are not mentally fit or financially fit to raise children.

[@randystanton1224]

The opposition would say they shouldn't have sex.

[@RudiBoy5]

Are they allergic to latex?

[@gods_sun626]

@@andrewmiller6272 that wont stop them from making them!!!

[@andrewmiller6272]

@@randystanton1224 and those oppositions are most likely licentious.

[@jes6161]

@@andrewmiller6272 This boils down to extreme irresponsibility.

[@frankthemousepie]

If you make child rearing accessible and affordable for most people there would be less abortions too. That's without needing to force women to be pregnant against their will, force assault victims to have their attacker's baby or force women to continue a nonviable and/or dangerous pregnancy. They aren't pro life they are pro birth and usually anti women.

[@spikerzombie]

Ok frank

[@ky11622]

You should look at the statistics on any of the things that you just said. The problem is people are using abortion as a form of birth control, which is lazy and selfish. No one is going to ban abortion. They just gave it back to the states to decide. We need to start preaching contraception more so women can use it instead of abortion. There are over 40+ kinds of birth control so no excuses. Or if you don’t want kids, Get your tubes tied or a vasectomy. There are too many options to choose from besides death. I am also adopted so I guess that’s why I have my opinion.

[@lastnamefirstname2390]

Spot on.

[@arcanineryu]

They don't want to save a zygote they just want to own women and their bodies as enslaved property again. Not enough people in America get taught that a wife was legally the property of her husband until the 1970s in America.

[@dragonstooth4223]

Hush now your making sense and conservatives don't like that kind of free thinking

[@cornerstone7036]

Child protective services already are overwhelmed and do not adequately protect child. Yet, we want more unwanted children

[@arcanineryu]

They're happy to unalive a few thousand children if in the process they can bankrupt most of the women in their states and bully them into being enslaved property again. Which is why it's important to learn which common foods in kitchens can be used as a poison if you ever find yourself being told to "get back in the kitchen" at the point of a gun. Hence why it's important to teach yourself and your daughters about the wonders of substances like tobacco, red kidney beans, and especially green potatoes and potato stems.

[@ulthea]

​​@@arcanineryuI like the cut of your jib, good sir (or madam) 😂

[@theinternetman1]

@@arcanineryuplease tell me more foods I should learn about?

[@arcanineryu]

@@theinternetman1 most of the others are more situational (like toxic plants that grow as weeds or decoration in your region of the world, or plants that require being grown personally in a garden to harvest otherwise inaccessible parts of the plant that won't be present in a grocery store) hence why it's important to go do your own customized research. Tho you can go very far with just the humble potato. You just bide your time and wait for the potatoes being stored to grow little sprouts, collect a bunch of them, then grind up and sneak those sprouts Into a meal that targets all your captors at once and use the opportunity to escape.

[@arcanineryu]

@@theinternetman1 but there are other methods that are helpful strategies for captive women. For instance, strategic use of alcohol/other recreational drugs where you get them drunk/high before you add the poison. Using the traditional "hot grits" method, where if it's you against a single aggressor, cook something that uses a lot of boiling oil, and use that as a surprise weapon to the face. Or stuff like making your own pepper spray, or getting your hands on chemicals like antifreeze. There is a long history of captive women using creative ways to escape you can look through thanks to the internet. Just make sure to clear your history afterwards if you're currently in a bad spot.

[@acornsylvester2741]

this is forcing women and children into unsafe, unsustainable situations. Abortion should be legal, no arguments about this. I am sorry for my sisters in the states.

[@ChristoJohnSaaiman]

You are evil.

[@EcoJulie-vx6rx]

Children living in poverty and possible abuse when they were not wanted will cause more harm to the world

[@mreaper2468]

I was one of those kids. Middle class. Full time employed. Healthy marriage and life. Not a drug addict or alcoholic. Good relationship with my family. Us "poor" kids would like to disagree.

[@joshuatimothy2966]

​@@mreaper2468"and possible abuse" seems you missed that part bud

[@tigerdenvintage6783]

@@mreaper2468you are the exception

[@threefreaksonaleash6619]

Exactly.

[@JC-de1ik]

Is it wrong to give women the authority to choose if their offspring will or won't exist? In the most secular sense. That's a tough question. It has a decent argument at least. I'm leaning towards it's not ''wrong''

[@lonaji6205]

I had an ectopic pregnancy, and I was so grateful to live in Michigan and have a governor that protected my right to the health care I needed. Even with the accessible health care, it was a living hell. I can’t imagine the alternative.

[@RudiBoy5]

Abortion for health reasons it's not banned on any state I think

[@lindseybrady8524]

​@@RudiBoy5that might be what the law says, but that is not reality. Read the many stories of having a life threatening pregnancy, and not having access to an abortion

[@francescabeans9722]

On the books, but not always in practice. Many doctors refuse to give abortions or delay care to avoid criminal charges.

[@Dorian803]

+

[@trainablemonkey9912]

​@@RudiBoy5In practice closing clinics means women will only have access from the ER. ERs only treat illnesses that are imminent danger of bodily harm. It is cheaper and safer to treat all types of illness before it reaches that point.

[@aeskewprop]

If it was really about babies, we would have the BEST support system for motherhood in the world. We would have universal childcare. We would have a lower infant mortality rate. It's not about babies.

[@vickygraham2444]

Let's clear the confusion on a number of issues. First, sex is not illegal or immoral. Women get to have sex. For fun. Even married, “responsible” people have unwanted pregnancies. Second, most abortions happen in the first trimester. When the fetus is not fully formed and cannot function. Third, regardless of reason, which is none of your business, abortion is a healthcare issue. Every. Time. Mind your business and stay out of other people’s healthcare. Finally, the “pro-life” crowd should be more than busy enough making actual lives better, preventing deaths through violence, and stopping wars and death sentences. But they’re not. Because “life” is not sacred to them. “Life” is not even important to them. Control is. Fetuses are just a convenient way to exercise that control.

[@catarinabridges9358]

Preach❤

[@TickleMeChelmno]

Then you also have to be drafted for all the overseas adventures you send men to.

[@mr.keptitreal]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@rosablume4346]

That was very well put, a lot of „issues“ and the myth of psychological damage to women who „k*lled a fetus“ are repeated without a proper fact base. Apart from that, who‘d thunk that teenage girls would suffer mentally after getting slut shamed and pressured into keeping a fetus, just sayin

[@alicem2103]

Women are now eligible to be drafted along with men in the age range of 18 to 26 should another draft occur. So. Congrats. You lost your silly talking point.​@@TickleMeChelmno

[@sleepdrifterr]

oklahoma dweller here. banning abortion along with the recent "the bible must be taught in oklahoma classrooms." terrible. i hate it. never raising a kid here.

[@threefreaksonaleash6619]

That is horrendous 😭

[@sleepdrifterr]

@@threefreaksonaleash6619 so is kevin stitt

[@MrBurnsExcellent]

I hope you never have kids🙏🙏🙏

[@John-Johnson]

well judging by your profile picture you should be no where near a child so good.

[@calistawartin8344]

your like 15 yrs old😂😂😂😂😂

[@LostlikeNemo82]

Something that just dawned on me. Force women into motherhood puts them in vulnerable positions, thus making a lot of women reliant on men. A lot of married and single moms will stay or enter terrible relationships just to not have to care for a child on their own. Manhood is based on domination and men can't dominate women if we have fill autonomy over our bodies. This isn't about saving babies, it's about the subjugation of women.

[@NoEndForUs]

💯💯💯💯

[@robertandkristinhall5006]

Yup. They want it to go back to save yourself for marriage bear children and have your husband control everything. That is exactly what is happening.

[@OGieDaOGre]

As a Texan woman I am truly afraid to have the child I want out of fear of not being able to receive common sense care regarding a an issue with my pregnancy. I will be moving out of Texas before I have my children.

[@xxgoodnevil17xx]

It will likely save your life based on statistics

[@TickleMeChelmno]

That makes no sense. Why do you want abortion then?

[@mr.keptitreal]

Bye 👋 👋 👋 👋 👋 👋

[@aeviefx5374]

​@@mr.keptitrealit's okay, u can unclench. Other people traveling out of state won't take anything away from your identity little ❄️

[@bevs9995]

@@xxgoodnevil17xx what statistics

[@TravisLoneWolfWalsh]

No Government has the right to tell a woman what they can or cannot do with their body period

[@cycyj847]

Not pro life if you're taking away everything that a life needs to survive. Medical, education, clothes, extracurricular activities, food, a home, transportation. But we see how those are being gutted.

[@wPleasur3]

Exactly. Prolifers are just self righteous bigots who will take away resources and blame you for it. They don’t care about the children. They just want control.

[@ulthea]

Indeed, they're only pro life until the child starts to breathe. Don't see them lining up to offer a safe and loving home to the unwanted children they fight to bring into this world. Disgusts me. So sad.

[@Shockerpitzwei]

​@@ultheaAlso if they truly cared about kids , they would actually try protecting them from guns

[@ulthea]

@@Shockerpitzwei also this! Apparently the right to bear arms is worth more than women's reproductive rights.

[@chef2chiefchef2chief61]

My personal conspiracy theory, denying legal abortions will cause an increase of an impoverished class, which tends to vote Republican.

[@unknownunknown5822]

That's it , I've been saying it for years

[@a-10wartaboo77]

Nah waiting 18 years for a new generation of voters is not going to win them elections. How many improvised 18 years vote? Republicans can’t even think about the next election they have been literally doing the same thing since 2016 if not before.

[@TickleMeChelmno]

So ‘inner cities’ are GOPers?

[@chloegrobler4275]

My take, its a method of reducing worker power too. More poor people, more competition for jobs which trends to lowered wages.

[@FR-oz9px]

They’re dreaming of breeding their own, cheap labor force and rule them like medieval feudal lords.

[@rolfkrajewski4975]

If I was a woman I would NEVER vote conservative

[@ShayKMBR]

Both parties are shot. Democrats ruin the economy and Republicans ruin freedom. Democrats have their hearts in the right place and do it wrong. Republicans don't give a damn who they step on so long as there is money involved. We need a 10 party system to restore some balance.

[@rickiex]

Youd be surptise how many do.....

[@NoEndForUs]

​@@rickiex only the indoctrinated ones do. 😂

[@marisoldominguez1119]

So many “pro lifers” here saying “this is funny” or “oh it hasn’t affected me or anyone I know” have no empathy for the women who are truly suffering. Mind your own business and continue living happily in your bubble.

[@rummanamoledina4973]

And it's part of health care. A complication in pregnancy could happen to anyone

[@SomeKidFromBritain]

Each of the states had literally decades to enshrine abortion access in their state legal systems. Why they didn't is beyond me.

[@MsCGarnica]

Abortion is now called a 'complication' of pregnancy? Thats comrsde commie crap! ​@rummanamoledina4973

[@MsCGarnica]

Because its condoning murder! ​@SomeKidFromBritain

[@SomeKidFromBritain]

@@MsCGarnica I'm not sure I consider it murder, but it is a form of killing I agree. Although It is a form of killing with social utility which is why I am not against abortion (within reason).

[@Krbymcd]

My body doesn’t like being pregnant. I threw up all day every day until I gave birth. I lost weight. I was very sick and would die without getting IV FLUIDS. I spent weeks in the hospital racking up medical debt. I also have epilepsy so not being able keep my critical medication inside my body was a problem. I was extremely fortunate to not have to work. I constantly think what would happen if I had to work . What if I had other kids to financially take care of yet I’m in the hospital extremely sick. It’s not as simple as pro life people make it out to be. Pregnancy puts women’s health at risk

[@JadedJassy21]

What's going to happen to this woman after a year? No way she is going to be ready to take care of herself and her baby.

[@yanasosnovskaya864]

100% there is no maternity leave, child care cost like helicopter...

[@bullettoothjosh]

"Mind your own damn business " Tim Walz

[@TickleMeChelmno]

Unless it involves vaccines

[@AryanOberoi-zd6sf]

He set up a snitch line to report on neighbours 😂

[@alicem2103]

​@AryanOberoi-zd6sf lol no he didn't. I live in MN. That's not what the hotline was for. It was for planning events around the lakes in the metro area so the elderly and infants would be safe. Goofball.

[@rensinclair4218]

​@TickleMeChelmno you mean deadly, contagious diseases? Sit down

[@xivermusic]

Absolutely sickening how these lawmakers are able to disregard the rights of so many women

[@SomeKidFromBritain]

Roe-wade was based on 'an implied right to privacy'. It was a weird piece of legislation, regardless of what it supported.

[@leopoz]

What about the childs right to live? I guess they're just chopped liver? Abortion is a complicated issue. Why would it be so sickening that people or politicians would have differing views?

[@SomeKidFromBritain]

Also having the right to do something doesn't make it moral. A bettr agument would be about public consensus and desires.

[@xelasomar4614]

​Fetuses are not children nor babies.

[@SomeKidFromBritain]

@@xelasomar4614 Then why are women upset when they miscarry?

[@aeskewprop]

The attorney in Mississippi who pushed the case that allowed the Supreme Court to overturn Roe also said, "Whoops, didn't think about how we needed infrastructure". It's terrible how short-sighted these people are- in this case, women and children will suffer.

[@ToudaHell]

The US. The land that shows the rest of the world what NOT to do. Thank you for your service.

[@fredtafel]

When a country is ruled by an immoral and absurd old fairytale "holy" book

[@chrishunt3674]

But it’s not like America is a very godless country at this point

[@liliar9992]

Bible is crap no doubt but they are just using it to cover up the real cause… cheap labor and uneducated are good for wealthy.

[@mariposamoreno]

i will ALWAYS be pro-choice. it is appalling that roe v wade was overturned. unreal and ridiculous

[@tomasrocha6139]

Even RBG said it was a weak ruling, everyone knew it would be overturned

[@lenini056]

EVERYONE, GO 4B!!!

[@unknownunknown5822]

This comment right here 🙏

[@mastvideos6298]

Why Religion is so powerful in this country ?

[@squishy_mf]

lack of education

[@ulthea]

Traditions die hard. I like Tim minchins take on this in his song "thank you God": "A product of group think, mass delusion, an emperor's new clothes style fear of exclusion". People are generally stupid and want to belong. The more educated and intelligent the less this tends to happen.

[@applebottomjeans7]

Cold War era fear of those atheist communists really set the USA back

[@victoria8930]

Oklahoma is the worst living here my whole life. All the governments want to do is be able to control and tell us what we need when they are not the ones struggling. At least us women are smart enough to know when we can’t take care of a child and God is the only allowed to judge us. Most you people believe and go by God but yet do you actually practice his preaching and rules were supposed to live by? No most of yall rich ones don’t have to worry about feeding clothing or providing a house for your children. You handed it and you chose too judge us who know we can’t provide and know what’s best for our family and children. The government is only worried about money and seeing the ones who live at or below middle income and poverty income fail. The world is just came to an end actually if the citizens and voters and all the Democrats and everything like that, we’re actually truly caring about the world and the United States. They literally would make a petition and sign a bill that way us citizens could take over the government, but yet you choose to leave the government put in place because we feel like that’s the only way it’s gonna happen and that’s the only way that we know no in actuality, legal terms and legal. You could have a petition sign with enough signers and petitioners to be able to take over the government. True story check your constitution laws

[@6crvxx824]

so you want to kill babies?

[@chinastartedcovid]

its called dont have sex

[@Atlas-Struggled]

This is so sad. Women will die and no one will bat an eye.

[@SomeKidFromBritain]

Its a state level issue.

[@plaidpanda]

​@@SomeKidFromBritain I want my rights protected at the federal level, thanks.

[@brifrazier5459]

​@@SomeKidFromBritainFor now.

[@SomeKidFromBritain]

@@plaidpanda Thats cool, but Roe-Wade was not a good piece of legislation. An 'implied right to pirvacy' is grasping at straws tbh. I always hear the argument you make but nobody has made a sucessful argument for why abortion is/should be a constitutional issue.

[@SomeKidFromBritain]

@@brifrazier5459 Meaning what?

[@WAlkONRebel]

When I got pregnant in Nc in 2015 I went to a pregnancy resource center and their resources were laughable they couldn’t help with bills just hand me down clothes and a small pack of diapers

[@robertandkristinhall5006]

They must of forgotten the bible. As if prayer is the miraculous answer. Most resource centers I am aware of are very religion focused, hence my comment.

[@DorianPaige00]

Look to our past to see what will happen in the future as a result. Unwanted pregnancies, many kids put up for adoption, abuse in foster care, parents who are destitute. As a reaction, you'll see single people paying 10 par in property and school taxes verses someone who has many kids and modest to low income paying nothing. Families already have the ability to declare dependents on income taxes and this will extend that principle. Tax credits for sales tax could also be applied for those who have a huge family. LGBT and single adults will be paying the bill and if they can't, then the land will be foreclosed on and sold for tax sale; this is war. The Supreme Court is very reluctant to get involved with tax schemes as Justice Roberts said that Obamacare is a form of tax and best left alone to be decided at the legislative level. Right of privacy, equal protection, and due process clauses have been challenged and restricted. Some on the courts say they don't even apply now to any future ruling. Prior decisions that used these argument as legal underpinnings will be eroded at their core. Furthermore this decision directly applies to other medicine like gender affirming care, pain meds, tubal ligation, vasectomies, birth control, reporting of menstrual cycles to the government, Mirena, vaccines, SSRI's, gastric bypass, condoms, Prep, etc. All are subject to restriction and curtailment despite the fact that patients are benefitting. That state's interest in promoting family health will be the deciding factor as they will know be able to tell you who can not be in the family (reversal of Obergefell) and what type of relationships you can engage in within the confines of your home (reversal of Lawrence V Texas and support of the 1800's Comstock Act).

[@sadiewood7302]

none of the “resources” they want to promote are ever even close to being enough to support a child. these laws will just keep these women in poverty and unsupported, and in turn children will suffer.

[@reginajanelilianapatterson5838]

Because supporting them is communism. They feel worse about committing the sin of communism than the damage poverty does to the children they forced to be born against the mother's will.

[@dio69666]

No babies for babies

[@reallysomebody]

There are 8 billion people on the planet. Trust women.

[@one_among_the_fence]

This makes my heart ache to watch. I feel privileged now, living in a state where abortion is legal, but I'm sure that could be taken away again somehow, so quickly. And so the panic I felt in the time before my state wrote abortion access into our constitution still sits in the pit of my stomach, but god do I wish something would change so the countless other women in the country wouldn't also be panicked and caught in horrible circumstances because of this decision.

[@Ambtran2023]

“Under his eye”

[@denisehickey]

We're not going back!!❤❤❤

[@andrewmiller6272]

If people are really pro life. Be pro life for all life not just humans.

[@MrMrMuhummad]

Sorry what ?

[@wPleasur3]

@@MrMrMuhummadpro lifers don’t really care about people’s lives. When that child grows up into an impoverished home, prolifers will quickly come to blame the mother for not being financially stable while also advocating for the dismantling of social welfare.

[@rodster811]

@@wPleasur3 "pro lifers don’t really care about people’s lives." You just made this up.

[@wPleasur3]

@@rodster811 no I didn’t. You just lack comprehension and social awareness.

[@rodster811]

@@wPleasur3 "You just lack comprehension and social awareness." You making stuff up doesn't require comprehension or social awareness.

[@Superstarr859]

Idk how to feel I’m a woman and I can’t imagine having to raise a kid alone but also not wanting a kid

[@davergent1521]

Infant mortality is up for the 1st time in decades.

[@Auroraeevee-m1q]

Notice that the men who father the kids are never subjected to the shaming, judgement, name-calling and stigmatism that the women who carry the kids are. A woman who decides to not carry is condemned; the man who fathers the child with her faces no judgement. Interesting, isn't it? 🤔

[@kjsleep2011]

Jon Stewart already made a fool out of Dahm on gun control. Now he’s looking stupid about women’s health too. Way to go Oklahoma.

[@yanasosnovskaya864]

"how many funds to go to mothers in need?" - and answer - no answer LOOOL there is even not normal maternity paid leave in the country. what "pro-life" this dude advocating for?

[@reginajanelilianapatterson5838]

No advocacy for mandatory paid maternity leave is completely within the conservative wheelhouse. They oppose government telling employers what to do beyond a very, very bare basic framework of common-sense. They don't see required paid maternity leave as common-sense and still yearn for the days when one-income households can make a comeback.

[@stpd1957]

Vote for Harris.

[@jes6161]

No.

[@Justin-yt7pi]

I'm not voting for either

[@BeeNiceToMe]

@@Justin-yt7pithen you are complicit

[@bevs9995]

@@Justin-yt7pi like it matters. The Black Boxes are casting votes for dead people, they probably casting a vote for you too

[@arizvisa]

@@Justin-yt7pi You gonna at least vote in your state? That's where it counts... At the very least, you have an impact on the things that __actually__ affect you directly.

[@cooldrop02]

"They *should* be stepping up" "they *should* be in the primarily ones doing that..." . What??? So everyone but the government should be responsible for making sure those whose options for family planning has been limited BY the government?

[@apollo8118]

These ppl are idiots this why we gotta vote these type of ppl out of office before they destroy America

[@glendarios4589]

This is not only the termination by choice and law is also a medical procedure that save tons of life not just the baby SO for the mom too. That can be a relative for all those pro life that doesnt have any idea the extensión of their opinión, but it Will be becouse it Will be your relative, your mom or a dauchter. Will see

[@143purple]

💜

[@ritikasingh9555]

American women, u have achieved the most in terms of economic, political and social development. Please reverse this so that we women from around the world know what success looks like❤🙏

[@Dj-qi2we]

This Human Rights issue and it restricts Freedom for any human by law makers,both sides from the government and the people have a good reason,but Tolerance and Responsibility from the Law makers and Society need to be taken seriously if each side making wrong decisions,if you can control the problem from the root causes al this issues then you can prevent mistakes,no government or religious views should dictate any person way of life if it’s right or wrong choice they make. The Law makers need to educate the public and not force their own beliefs on others. Simple and easy but no one going to listen

[@rodster811]

This was the biggest word salad of the day.

[@victoria8930]

God does not allow anyone to judge anyone. The government is not God so why does everyone allow them to play and behave like are the ones who will judge us on our judgment day.

[@CalannEdwards-vu7xg]

Our bodies, our choice❤️

[@user-se5ef5pl3o]

It's not your body.

[@xelasomar4614]

​@@user-se5ef5pl3oYes it is.

[@draw4kicks]

@@user-se5ef5pl3oit literally is lmao

[@JuliaH-c6f]

​@@user-se5ef5pl3oWell it mostly certainly is the government's, that's for sure. It's our bodies! And this whole thing has and will continue to disallow us to have waaay less agency of our own bodies than a corpse!

[@camaraman645]

@@user-se5ef5pl3o then whose?

[@0100101101001100]

Isn't Nathan Dahm also the guy that got wrecked by John Stewart over gun control?

[@EcoJulie-vx6rx]

I’m not for always willing to have abortions as a common thing for them. No Im for them being used as an absolute last result due to health conditions, being too young, r*pe, finances. They should have that right and to be more carful to never have to do it again.

[@erics3596]

Please stop reposting 2 year old stuff - update this video NOW

[@channel7newsmeow]

🔥 This is wild, but people gotta know the facts. Big moves happening, and it’s not looking good for our rights. 💔 #StandUp #FightForChoice

[@hairypotter259]

Damn is this video being suppressed???

[@piku5637]

Codify reproductive and lgbtq rights. Women💜hold up half the sky. Rights to safe abortions are survivor’s rights🇵🇸Ⓐ☭🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️💫

[@RabbitWatchShop]

@@piku5637 don’t bring us trans people intro this. You don’t speak for me, or others in our community.

[@chefpontius6816]

No.

[@Justin-yt7pi]

Don't bring Palestine into this!

[@chefpontius6816]

@@Justin-yt7pi I hope the palestinians, the israelis, the trans community, and the ukrainians all have a good time. 🤪🤪😜😜🫡

[@Ibrahim_Chehab]

Don’t bring the gays or Palestine into this nonsense. Abortion should never exist.

[@rummanamoledina4973]

Abortion is a woman's right but imo contraception would be a better idea when women know they could get pregnant and they dont want to

[@jennifertarin4707]

Contraception fails. Women have ectopic pregnancies, which are never viable. Women have miscarriages and fetal anomalies. Make no mistake, abortion is Healthcare and needs to remain accessible at the federal level.

[@oxymoron500]

Most of these women used contraception, but it failed.

[@misspat7555]

Contraception sometimes fails. And not every person who gets pregnant was given a free choice.

[@ArranVid]

@@misspat7555 You can practise abstinence if you do not want to have sex.

[@ArranVid]

@@oxymoron500 Excuses

[@shoobydoobiemauiwowee]

That group that gently helps people who are considering abortion become better parents is golden. To prevent the need for abortion I think we should create a secondary safety net to ensure safe housing, clean water, healthy food, quality education, and full health care for everyone, with a system of coming to the most logical and ethical solutions quickly, and a community builder simulator to plan future development to be in harmony with the Earth and with each other...so kids and adults can earn a minimum of a living wage from a place where they feel safe and loved, working towards an ensured basic standard of living, while achieving self actualization in the process.

[@h.g.wellington2500]

Stop. Voting. Republican.

[@jameslovesjesus2033]

My body my choice. Yet the unborn baby has different DNA than the mother. Also if a mother is pregnant on the way to an abortion clinic can get killed by a drunk driver he gets extra charges for the baby who was already going to be murdered.

[@anais8974]

the disgusting irony of senator dahm having a don't tread on me flag when he's crushing millions of women under his foot. true libertarians shouldn't support this type of legislation and you're lying to yourself if you think they should

[@unknownunknown5822]

4B all the way!

[@JRock4572001]

Voting or not voting have consequences.

[@kovy689]

Vice went bankrupt lol. Re-uploading same old videos…

[@cafiteriafraiche]

The draft was not circulated in May, it was May of 2022. They filmed this two years ago and are only uploading it now??

[@marilynwest4647]

I will never wrap my head around the opinion that life snuffed out before it's capable of pain or sentience is a grevious violent injustice but forcing women and children to give birth against their will (an actual human rights violation) is your punishment for having sex. I wonder if they also refuse treating STDs because that's their consequence and now it should last for life.

[@arcanineryu]

Well you see, that's because in your worldview women are people, while in the world view of the cults driving this forced birther movement, women and children are men's property. And the governments enforcement of basic human rights for women isn't common sense, it's actually the government stealing their property and trampling upon their God given rights to own slaves. I wish I were kidding, but there's a reason why it took so long to abolish slavery, and then end the decades long tantrum called segregation in America.

[@reginajanelilianapatterson5838]

If they were actually pro-life and cared about the baby they forced to be born, then they would care about curing STDs (not just treating them, but actually curing them) because many STDS can be passed from mother to baby. It's not fair to the baby to suffer from a disease that social authoritarians don't want a cure for. Perhaps, because they already consider pregnancy an childbirth to be a justifiably enforceable 'consequence' of having sex, then the cost of having to treat both yourself and your new child for an STD there is no cure for is further consequence of your "irresponsible behaviour." Damn the quality of life for the baby! Punish the poor mother!

[@rodster811]

Telling men and women to take responsibility for the life they created because they couldn't keep their pants on isn't human rights violation.

[@rodster811]

@@arcanineryu "Cult" Cue the Princess Bride Line: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Destroying another human being isn't a right.

[@arcanineryu]

@@rodster811 if I leave fruit on the counter until it grows mold, I will be directly responsible for the development of life that is about as alive as the zygote yall are trying to enslave women over in order to force them to carry to term. Yall religious wack jobs not understanding the different categories of what qualifies as alive is something that should be kept between you and your church and out of our hospitals 😒

[@Laurajbaron]

Why is the solution to the economic problem suggested here only abortion? Programs could be created to provide better education for these children. Education for their mothers so they can learn to run, join, or be part of successful businesses. What if the pro-choice movement focused on helping women, especially those who choose not to kill their babies. I dont think every woman is meant to be a mother or mother their child, but i do think every human being has a right to live. The claim that poverty makes a person doomed to live a horrible life is unfounded. If this was also a concern, we would do MORE to help stop and prevent that, not simply saying that killing the baby is the solution.

[@maazali3570]

un intended pregnancy is the area were alot of non profit org should be looking at

[@Alsome_jj]

Born and raised in Texas will always support your right to chose children or to not stuff is too 📈📈📈$$$

[@StarGouldKA]

I'm an EAV (emerging adult virgin) and I pretty much feel split about this. From unprofessional perspective alone anybody can see women who grew up in poverty &/ had child trauma (which likely includes myself) are better prone to riskier pregnancy. While I'm sure everyone's had their veils lifted about state of reality esp. regarding patriarchy & political prowess at some point. But just speaking the stats & showing few example people doesn't really get to me. That's all

[@xelasomar4614]

Also, everyone should have the right when and if they want to start a family or not and determine if they are capable or not to do so.

[@StarGouldKA]

@@xelasomar4614 Sounds about right from democratic/American civic pov I guess.

[@francesmartin-c7z]

deplorable .

[@michaelbertrand7849]

I can wait for judgment day

[@wolfinthesuit]

Don’t know nothing about abortion nor females just wanted to participate in comments

[@randystanton1224]

Disney killed vice

[@dallasrieck7753]

"nobody schooled you", gezz, people are not designed to be schooled, better: they didn't get the sharing that maybe would have helped...😮

[@Frank-qg4ik]

If there are 50% fewer jobs i dont think that the economic argument will mean very much.

[@bevs9995]

look a sane and informed person

[@Frank-qg4ik]

@@bevs9995 there is nothing insane about the argument. The argument should and would be relevant if the state of popular/corporate greed wasn't so out of control. This only highlights the fact that no one possesses autonomy over their own fate anymore. Unless you are extremely wealthy. And even then you are bound by the order that you happen to worship.

[@melindawolfe4350]

this video was released June 2022 use your eyes

[@Frank-qg4ik]

​@@melindawolfe4350that explains the preemptive concern. I guess... Hard to know if the predictive parts were added retroactively. Not sure what dwelling on it does to fix the problem.

[@mexicanwitharock]

They took away a right. What else will they take? Our freedom I suppose. Years a fighting, violence and protest, thrown to the side In a few years. What future is this? How can I support and help the protest or even the fight?

[@xelasomar4614]

Yes, protest, vote blue and help others to vote, become politically active.

[@miaq392]

You always have the right to not have sex. That way an abortion wouldn’t even be necessary. And don’t bring up the extreme cases because the majority of y’all that are getting abortions are the irresponsible ones.

[@emiliobello2538]

Abortions for all: booo No abortions for anyone: boooo

[@MayaMaya-ye7rl]

I'm texan, im not dating men, period.

[@brunoweint]

I dont understand, why all these people that dont have money or arent ready for kids are having sex KNOWING theres a chance to get pregnant? sex is not a need, sex is not a right, so stop pretending otherwise

[@EatingYourWAFFLES]

It depends. 1) Some people weren’t taught good sex ed in school, or by their parents. They believe myths about how to avoid getting pregnant like the pullout method, or they use protection incorrectly. 2) Some people were assaulted by force. 3) Some people were heavily pressured or manipulated into having sex by their partners, or their partner threatened to leave them if they didn’t have sex. They felt like if they didn’t have sex, they’d be alone forever or lose their partner. It’s possible they were abused too and being coerced into sex was part of the abuse. 4) Some people used birth control correctly but it failed (even the IUD/implant doesn’t work 100%). 5) Some people just didn’t think about the consequences. Or they were emotionally numb to the possibility of pregnancy due to mental illness, impulsivity, or alcohol/drugs. If you try to put yourself in other people’s shoes, there are many ways someone can be pressured into sex. Especially someone who doesn’t have much money to their name and is living a shitty life. It makes you end up in really rough situations.

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

Then you live under a rock

[@robertandkristinhall5006]

I never thought I would see it happen and I am only 36 today.

[@Gurziak]

From 2022. Nothing has changed lmao.

[@MegaAndy93]

10:03 47 percent of U.S. workers are women according the department of labor.

[@lolahernandez6871]

I can't judge, I' never been in that situation nor will I ever be. But don't people use condoms anymore??? Double it up if needed???

[@KidanKassa]

What about those who get raped, conceive a child who is going to have intellectual disabilities, what about those married and don’t want no more kids and their contraceptive didn’t work?

[@92_09]

@@KidanKassayou means 0.001 percent cases out of all the abortion cases

[@ShadowSong634]

Over 30,000 women are raped and become pregnant in the US each year. That doesn't even count the amount of 10 - 12 girls who are raped and impregnated. This isn't just about consensual sex.

[@misspat7555]

@@92_09You have no idea what percentage of abortions happen to these “bad women making bad choices” so demonized and claimed to be common by the anti-choice movement, and what percentage happen to people who wanted a baby but something went horribly wrong, or who used contraception, or who were given little choice about how their body would be used by someone else. It’s not your place to demand a sob story or to judge. If you don’t want an abortion, don’t get one. 🤷‍♀️

[@ArranVid]

@@misspat7555 Pro-Life for the win.

[@lvhao5105]

we must move to pro-choice state.

[@DeviantDespot]

Roe vs. Wade was rightfully struck down. I was improperly done and was on shaky ground to begin with. The issue is they years to establish actually rights by enshrouding it in law, instead people kept in perilous position to leverage for political gain. I fully blame the people who had decades of opportunity to establish it in legislation but instead use it as a tool to threaten voters.

[@lissettemendez7618]

Someone please explain to me the obsession with these people to force women to get pregnant? What is it to them? They truly believe they’re gaining the key to heaven? I just don’t get it. They think that by helping one month or one yr that will be enough? What happens as that child is growing up? When they’re teenagers? When they need more financial and emotional support? They want the women to mother those children when a lot of them are being forced to become mothers because contraceptives are illegal? Someone explain this obsession.

[@rodster811]

Someone explain the obsession with destroying another human being.

[@IbrahimMuhammad_114]

Didn’t vice go bankrupt? LOL

[@BradleyMontgomery-mc1nr]

I wish

[@JayBergeron]

Almost all countries are facing a population crash severely impacting national economies. It was inevitable for abortion to become illegal.

[@michael2275]

It's a state by state issue, never should have been a federal law.

[@jennifertarin4707]

If you use that logic, slavery should remain a state issue and not a federal issue

[@st-xk4cj]

ur a man

[@emaaddar5017]

@@jennifertarin4707 Slavery is directly related to commerce. It's a federal issue.

[@trixiesilver4030]

Also by the logic of advocacy for local control: can’t get much more local than the pregnant person.

[@rodster811]

@@st-xk4cj Okay and???

[@nicklaw2434]

Sends shivers down my spine. This country keeps putting its people through so much avoidable suffering

[@frankizzy11]

Pro Life

[@elseby]

Anyone else noticing an increase in adoption ads? It's good that these kids are getting more acknowledgement, but it also means that there a lot of babies being put into the system and they need to make room.

[@josephpugh1331]

Not a federal issue, cope harder

[@37Raffaella]

Great ….so ppl from red states cannot access abortion if they can’t afford to travel….. sad!

[@piku5637]

It’s a survivors and human rights issue. Get out of peoples uterus and myob.

[@shortfusegmr]

Every state that has put abortion up to vote has voted for it. Thanks for letting the states set precedent and open the door for federal legislation!

[@josephpugh1331]

@@shortfusegmr I have no issue with states outlawing abortion, but this does not set a precedent for federal legislation. It is not in the constitution, so the federal government cannot regulate it.

[@slackjaw2643]

So much for the land of the free. Let women and their families make their own decisions

[@BradleyMontgomery-mc1nr]

Pro life all the way, don’t care what you say!!

[@ashleymarsolais674]

I’m all for women’s rights, i support a women’s right to have an abortion.. but the way people use it is the problem, abortion is not birth control and should not be used as so ( I know a few who have had multiple) Nor should having abortions at 6+ months.

[@Raja1938]

So should we set up a morality police like they have in Saudi Arabia and Iran? They can decide who deserves the right to control their bodies and who doesn't.

[@ashleymarsolais674]

@@Raja1938 maybe after one you go on birth control, maybe they should provide it for free, and you know… be proactive in preventing future unwanted pregnancies.

[@Raja1938]

@@ashleymarsolais674 All forms of birth control have a failure rate. Would a woman have to provide the morality police with the used condom (which she would've no doubt saved from weeks/months previous) as proof?

[@RabbitWatchShop]

Using it as a form of birth control for every reason is, in short, unscrupulous. You brought this on yourselves

[@piku5637]

Forced birthers are responsible for forcing twelve year old SA victims to have their abusers babies. They’re complicit with (offending) pedos.

[@mrmojorisin6951]

Fight for mandatory vasectomies & mandatory child support 👍

[@RabbitWatchShop]

@@mrmojorisin6951 a male feminist hellbent on ending the human species. Lmao 🤣

[@TheAndsinpants]

Yes, because birth control never fails. Just admit, you're not prolife, you're probirth.

[@RabbitWatchShop]

@@mrmojorisin6951 a male feminist. Rofl 🤣

[@imalikconnor]

How can one be Pro-Life when they want to ban abortion even at the risk of a mother's life?

[@pavlestanimirovic]

Hey I’m pro Life killing babies is definitely disgusting and my niece was a premi 35 months and beautiful model and mother today Choose Pro Life !

[@svenvaltik5657]

Get an education.

[@Angelic43GR]

​@@svenvaltik5657how dare you calling, literally, someone stupid? Better you get some education on the 11th day the heartbeat starts and you are going to kill a living being? How about close your legs or at least use protection!

[@abellabarbie]

​@@Angelic43GR imagine being offended because someone is suggesting you educate yourself. Definitely proves you are seriously lacking.

[@abellabarbie]

​​@@svenvaltik5657 Don't even engage with these "people." They are the same people voting to limit access to science-based, empirically-based education in the U.S. overall.

[@khanhminhnguyen7274]

@@abellabarbie She is a Christian. I am not surprised.

[@brookiegremlin6660]

this footage is old, I've seen all of this already.