How the Fall of Shiganshina Changed Eren - Overanalyzing Attack on Titan & Retrospective

[@chloec4009]

I was always confused why Grisha was so harsh to Eren when it seemed like they were working together across time fighting for the same goal, until Season 4 Part 2 aired, and you realize that Grisha has figured out that Eren led him to take the Founding Titan, rather than stay and protect his family from the Titans, letting Carla die. Additionally, Grisha has definitely seen parts of the Rumbling so he's incredibly pissed at Eren, but just as Eren can't change anything, neither can Grisha, and so Grisha still hands over the Attack and Founding Titan.

[@kait3n10]

I don't know if you noticed, but this episode had a cameo of our other trio Annie, renier and bertolt. Annie was taking some bread from the guards, and Reiner and bertolt was shown looking shocked during Armin's narration after that scene

[@_Xds_]

When?

[@reigoemon2229]

​@@_Xds_I forgot what exact time it was but it was right before Eren kicked the Soldier's leg

[@coffeemug254]

Annie was seen at around 15:45 in the episode. Same with Bertholdt and Reiner around 19:55

[@FollowerOfChristJesus-h7v]

I only just now realized 5 years after I started watching AOT how big of a hint they gave us as too who would be surviving in the series by just having Armin narrate.

[@citrused8571]

Who do you think he is telling this story to? Maybe the ambassadors?

[@LuisSierra42]

The explanation of Mikasa's headaches told by Eren is confirmed being made up later on in the final episode while Eren talks with Zeke

[@TheAlijator]

Those headaches are caused by Ymir herself, looking through Mikasa. That's why Ymir is liberated and smiling in the very end of the manga, because Mikasa was able to do, what Ymir wasn't able to do in her lifetime.

[@1chibanKasuga]

@@TheAlijator true but we didnt get the explanaiton on why Levi get them

[@manbat4582]

​@@1chibanKasuga when?

[@AlienZizi]

@@1chibanKasuga did he get them??

[@samuelwithers2221]

Legitimately thank you for highlighting how Eren, as a victim of tragedy and trauma, goes on to perpetrate it on an even worse, larger scale. I see *so* many people in the fandom making him out to be a hero for initiating the Rumbling, or who try to say that the entire world--the ENTIRE WORLD--had it coming for what happening in Shiganshina. Thank you for recognizing Eren's actions for what they are, and how the cycle of violence defines his character.

[@bink410]

Well as a fan of Eren I know what he is doing is wrong but I can easily see why he is doing it. The entire world didn't have it coming I agree but Marley did they created Eren.

[@samuelwithers2221]

@@bink410 Don't get me wrong, I'm also a fan of Eren's character. He's extremely well-written, and it's very easy to see how he became what he is now. I don't take issue with people liking Eren as a character, but it does unnerve me how some people genuinely view the mass genocide of millions as a heroic act.

[@hankkingofmischief4372]

@@samuelwithers2221 because he’s saving his country

[@marcusgaius]

@@samuelwithers2221 So you'd prefer just the genocide of Eldians, right?

[@samuelwithers2221]

@@marcusgaius Remind me when I said that? I can recognize the Rumbling for the horrific genocide that it is and also not in any way support the mass slaughter of Eldians. Acknowledging that what Eren's doing is evil doesn't suddenly make me pro-Marley.

[@zgunderson90]

25:07 The City of Dallas is all that's left of humanity, Northeast Dallas goes to fight the titans, only the people living on one street survive

[@affliction9898]

Hey man I just want to say I thank you so much for not talking about anything later in the manga. I was terrified I was about to get the ending spoiled because thats ALL i see with any aot content now, just instant in your face ending spoiler with no warning. Beautiful and amazingly crafted video my friend 👌 made me appreciate the show even more.

[@The_Ninja_Tree]

He mentioned spoilers throughout these first 2 episodes and every episode after? What?

[@gadirlgadirk]

@@The_Ninja_Treeif you look at his comment pinned under the first video, he says that he is anime only and any reference to the ending was only speculation based on his perception of the soldiers, so by time this comment was left, there weren’t any spoilers since the anime hadn’t even ended

[@Youngmacho]

Id love to see you over analyze the final battle of Eren and Annie. I’ve noticed some interesting thing but the one that amazed me the most looking back is when Eren loses it and almost eats Annie he says “I am free” which hints to his inner goal so early on

[@RENZEENO]

Headaches were caused by ymir looking thru mikasas eyes

[@owenoconnor3503]

How?

[@declanclaus6681]

@@owenoconnor3503magic duh

[@Mikael_Ore]

That map showing us the losses in the mass sacrifice really downed on me

[@nightsabre6425]

Upon rewatch I feel like there was always something off about Eren even when he was a child. A child being able to stab somebody to death isn't normal.

[@elywahl9520]

Arguable very much so just a case of circumstances

[@sabsain2399]

It wasn't just "somebody" though

[@elywahl9520]

@@sabsain2399 that's why I said depends on the circumstances... I have a family member who is a police officer and he had a terrible case (only reason I'm talking about is cause it was in on the news) but he was called in for a DV and when he got there, there was nothing but a little girl about 10-11(I just can't remember exactly) stabbing the hell out her rapist and screaming, literally anyone is capable of violence you just have to be pushed... Eren wasn't killing out of self defense for himself but rather saw them as wild animals because of the way they treated other humans so he treated them as such... He killed them quickly, but it was Mikasa the actually traumatized one who stabbed multiple times... It's all about your experience... If your life hasn't been threatened before and I mean genuinely threatened it is definitely hard to imagine hurting another human just so you can live... But once a human has hurt you in way impossible to heal from... It's easy to want to hurt humans, that's also why the best protagonist have horrible backstories because of all that bad stuff happened to them and their still laughing... Maybe there's hope for all of us too..

[@elywahl9520]

@@sabsain2399 sorry bout the paragraph kinda went on a high rant my bad 😂😂😂😂

[@sabsain2399]

@@elywahl9520 no worries. I think there's only so much evil that can be left unchecked and forgiven. Some people just deserve agonising punishment in the face of the immense trauma, grief and suffering they caused to someone innocent first. Given the reaction of society and laughable justice system; you really find yourself wishing you could matter into your own hands against your perpetrators. Back to Eren and the fictional world. You're right, that was kind of insane of him. Stalking the kidnappers to their base and then killing them while screaming how vicious they were. For starters, it wasn't in his self defense or any other's but I think it was mostly to save Mikasa. At that point, he had no choice but to kill them and being vicious was mostly a way to ensure that him, a 9 y/o, successfully manages to kill adults. I think people forget how right after this scene, he treats Mikasa with immense kindness and gentleness. Eren is an animal that hisses, scratches and moves to kill anyone that tries to harm or kill him first (valid) while he shows affection towards anyone that treats not just him, but those around themselves with fairness, respect or kindness. (This is before his world view changes btw) I like Eren if you couldn't tell. Yes, him killing 80% of humanity was unforgiveable, BUT he did rid the world of the power of titans, which people really seem to dismiss. Decades of children dying early, having to eat their parents and guardians, and mindless titans living in nightmares are finally gone

[@avboy5636]

I feel like it is also worth pointing out the character in the background at 22:19 that bears a striking resemblance to s4 Eren. It might just be a coincidence, or maybe Isayama used that background character as inspiration for Erens design once he knew that Eren would travel through memories with zeke to connect the past and present, but it is a cool thing to note nonetheless

[@Koroto]

Aye, there's another similar case in episode 1 when the soldiers return - we see another person from behind who looks extremely similar to S4 Eren. While I do think they are coincidences, it's definitely a cool detail to think about!

[@lucasknapper5483]

that would be neat

[@FerociousMit]

@@Koroto I like to think since time didn't matter to him, he first went into the paths with anger, went through his entire life, altered what he needed to "when his eyes are green" is what I mean with that, then he went through it again once he learned to path power more and cooled down, so he could find a way to truly cope and accept the pain he endured and caused, and found the best path to peace, the best one possible.

[@vincentrodriguez6376]

As distinct as his artwork is his actual range in faces is very limited Half the faces of the manga are the same minus the haircuts

[@adsonn8740]

its not eren

[@rodytalks3989]

also hans death reforces even with the courage he actually lacked the power as well so he misjudged :(

[@roochiepoo]

I have a theory on this overarching theme of helplessness in AOT, as a reflection of Japan's history. Before the Meiji Era, Japan's policy of forced isolation (e.g 100 years of peace behind the "walls" of Paradis) caused them to become easily overcome and risked having their identity and way of life exterminated by external, more powerful and political forces. This bred a sense of resentment, despair and hopelessness - leading to the eventual warmongering / empire building that characterised Industrial Japan (e.g. fight! fight!). This paved the way to the attack on Pearl Harbor - or a rumbling that came from across the sea. Fun fact: the Meiji era also saw Japan's transition to a modern military, which included the commissioning and construction of the battleship Mikasa.

[@solo-mons]

What…

[@Daemonussy]

That’s interesting

[@yuukisama2001]

It's also hard to believe that the power that AT and the CT held their hosts were only no more than 10. Child soldiers, but the titan size was never altered.

[@3000deaths1]

Starting the show over again and you forget just how scary pure titans can be by season 3 and 4. You do get a really good reminder in s4ep9, Two Brothers, but there's also story stuff happening there. There's the titans that gave me nightmares, the ones I know and love!

[@frenkibum9041]

nobody's probably gonna read this, but when there was only first season and I didn' read the manga, I always wandered: "Why nobody seemed to remember what happened 100 years ago?" The way it was narrated implied that people who build the walls knew how to build them super fast and now this knowledge is lost. Which always bugged me, because 100 years is not that long ago if we think about it. People inside the walls didn't die left and right like Scouts, they were protected, had food and an opportunity to live a simple life. So the grandparents of this generation, who, let's say 70-80 years old right now, would be kids of those people who build the walls. They would have to remember how to do it. But they didn't. And I'm kind of proud of myself for thinking that, especially considering I was a kid, cause it foreshadowed for me the fact that memories could be manipulated

[@adomali87yearsago.71]

I always wondered this like you, how they rely on the fact the walls have been fine for 100 years but that is just a lifetime and a little longer, its really not a stable number. Surely among one million people there is someone old enough to know. Of course, they are within the centre or a secretive wallist

[@Sir_TophamHatt]

Thanks so much for staying strong with us waiting for the anime for the ending! So much of the content out there in this series right now is full of spoilers with no regard at all for the majority of fans who got into this story from the anime and want to finish it that way as well.

[@maia6767]

ok but i love this!! i love over analyses of shows so much and you did it so well!!

[@JaketheMovieGeek]

After finishing the series it makes perfect sense that Armin is the narrator. It’s Armin telling the world their story.

[@alexsend7096]

Cant wait for "How the release of Chapter 139 changed the FanDom"

[@sm_cheesy3144]

Aot subreddits are a very scary place…

[@sleepingdanger]

With it being out for a year I wanna know your thoughts on the ending with a spoiler free answer to protect anime only people

[@sm_cheesy3144]

@@sleepingdanger I can give a spoiler free answer for you. Me personally, I loved the ending and the final arc as a whole. I think the reason it was so controversial is because of how Isayama writes aot. I’m sure you know how much of the story is often kept a secret for a long time before being revealed. I think this style of writing led people to feel certain things came out of nowhere without actually rereading. It’s fine if it’s not your cup of tea, but I do think the final arc of aot is written very well.

[@DonDkTaro]

Honestly seeing how anime only are I see people like the ending more than manga readers because most anime onlys don’t like current Eren and mostly manga readers like edgy Eren

[@lxfj2128]

Dogshit ending

[@JBarG22]

When they gave the fifth mention and that the number was 250,000, I had to revise those numbers and the results were terrifying

[@skylord_elyas6023]

28:02 I can't see that image of Shadis and not think of the abridged version

[@yuukisama2001]

Knowing what we know now considering how big the Colossal titan was, and finding out that there were titans in the walls, it surprisingly that the attack didn't set anything off. Did the operatives know where to attack and not to? Did they know about the titans in the wall? Were they avoiding hitting a particular point?

[@olived9560]

Seeing as they were all scared of the Rumbling, I'm pretty sure they knew about the titans in the walls

[@sarkafenclova4621]

They also both kicked the gate, not the walls. The gates were from a different materials i think

[@yuukisama2001]

@@sarkafenclova4621 Ooh that's a good point too. Surprising that didn't cause any reaction.

[@kliona9670]

and what makes armin's grandpa death more sad and realistic is the fact that he survived first attack he came back to armin but bc the population inside of two remain walls become much denser, plan on retake the lost land of wall Maria is a simply government plan of cutting of chonk of this newly arrived population which is logical bc food resources are not infinite and bc of that armin lost his last piece of family not bc of titans, but bc of humans

[@kliona9670]

and I'm interested how much of the resistance was in people who was basically without big preparation thrown to the death - bc clearly a lot of them realise that I'm thinking considering armin's family history and armin himself, his grandpa must be a clever man, he surely knew that his chances of survival is almost non existent and that if he died armin, still a kid will be left alone and he can die just from starvation bc there is no adult to work and feed him (most surtainly it wouldn't be happen even if armin would not joins a military, bc even if he is not the strongest and fastest, he is very smart and have mikasa and eren. He could start working consider it's medieval setting so child labor is a usual thing). So I think maybe there was some kind of promises, decree from government like "you, man, go die in shiganshina and your family, kids and wives will not be hungry, will do something, stamps of something like that maybe"

[@robertoesquivel4447]

This is an incredible series bro, thank you for all the hardwork you put into it! Are you planning on doing every episode?

[@Koroto]

Indeed I am! Might want to keep an eye on the channel this evening 👀

[@779v]

been following ur twd series for a while, really glad u picked up aot to do something even cooler. keep up the great work krotos!

[@AIMalek]

Turns out mikasa just has a severe case of migraines and tension headaches

[@SunXia]

Irony being is that it wasnt't courage that failed Hans, it was his lack of experience. They are deliberately there only to project an image of order when all control is traumatising. Hanse wasn't skilled that's why he couldn't overcome his bodys natural Hyperarousal.

[@sazmullium]

Mikasa’s head aches are caused by Ymir peeping into her mind.

[@adrianat718]

I feel like the eye stuff is pretty intentional and kind of obvious. Even before getting to the later seasons, that emerald fire in his eyes is definitely an effective story telling tool

[@nostalgianetwork331]

I’m an Anime Only Viewer. Does his Retrospective go into Final Season Part 3 Spoilers?

[@adrianat718]

@@nostalgianetwork331 not part 3. From what I understand, part 3 tv hasn't been released yet. This is an anime only retrospective.

[@snakemanjake]

Bro so excited for you doing this series. Love it!!!

[@d3m0n_271]

24:17 is it just me or does the guy in the background leaning against the pillar look like old Eren?

[@mononokehte]

already rewatching these analyses, so well done

[@Zinn_Neon]

Decided to re-watch the series while I'm waiting for the next part to release and I just realized something That 3-second Dolly zoom animation Stuff like that is exactly why I am completely fine with the early anime using still shots on numerous occasions If it means the work to animate those scenes go somewhere else so we get amazing seems like this then it's completely fine by me

[@gabriele9524]

22:20 adult eren in the background : "hello there" spoiler 24:40 almost a fifth of the human population survive.........i mean die.......almost a fifth die

[@tootnoots]

80% died, that would be 4/5'ths

[@gabriele9524]

@@tootnoots and that's what happen in the final chapter

[@tootnoots]

@@gabriele9524 yep

[@WestonEvans]

A hardy welcome to TooMuchMacha. Thanks for supporting the mystery shack

[@turdsandwich7865]

Insanely well done!

[@Koroto]

Thanks a bunch! Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@Happy.Stupid.Neighbor]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhy shit. A 5th of the population is wiped out. 20%. And Eren comes back and wipes out 80% of the world population. Boom.

[@smokingunstudios6474]

Love these dude, great work! I’ll be looking forward to the next upload

[@Koroto]

Soon™!

[@sor3999]

16:30 The Attack Titan only passes on memories so we really can't say he's being manipulated by future Eren in this case. The eye thing is likely just a stylistic choice to show how angry Eren is in that moment. And of course we know on hindsight he doesn't visit this memory.

[@orbreXth]

Man your videos are so good! Keep going you can make it

[@maccamachine]

sweet man another aot video keep up the good work!

[@kutkuknight]

Im loving these!

[@nostalgianetwork331]

Does he go into Final Season Part 3 Spoilers?

[@kutkuknight]

@@nostalgianetwork331 yes, all these are made with the thought that the viewer already read the manga in mind or doesnt care about spoilers.

[@mmehdi3437]

Great video !!!

[@Wrestlinglemon]

Love these aot videos, your going into great detail.

[@nachowpowzer5979]

what are your thoughts about the table exchange when the trio roles are reversed and Armin doesn't act with reason and Mikasa doesn't protect Eren from himself?

[@azrizakaria7891]

Ive always thought that armins narration was him telling people what happened in the marley-eldia war right after the ending

[@gbengaomowa7769]

The memories at the start were from the founding Titan. Either Eren or Ymir. Not the attack

[@MegaDook56]

The dude in the background at 22:20 kinda looking like future Eren

[@martind5653]

Oh I believe they actually did draw most of a stuff by hand. Because they didn't know how to move backgrounds on computer and sync it with animation or something until some other director came in the studio while working on season 2. Something along that way happened I believe there is video about that.

[@omagoch]

This is solid!

[@DourFlower]

Love this

[@anonymous01201]

19:43 I panicked for a second because I thought we was gonna give OP spoilers (I’m on Water 7)

[@Idk30]

EREN NEVER CHANGE

[@kuromatsu1539]

The beginning of AoT when they joined the Military kinda gave me WW1 Vibes. They're all full of hope, they want to Defeat Titans (Or join the Military police but after eren's speech that one changed massively) and wanted to be the heroes their people needed Until the first fight against actual Titans and the horror and destruction they experienced from it. Then they got "sobered up" pretty damn quickly. At least in the beginning it reminded me of the book "Nothing new on the western front" as bizarre as it sounds

[@Garner84]

In international English, as recognised by Cambridge and Oxford dictionaries, you use S as opposed to Z in almost all cases. Thank you for listening, great video!

[@hunterhoose9375]

13:00 I believe season 1 was all hand drawn since it was WIT's first project

[@PyraJord]

It was not. Several ODM scenes feature 3D Environments to get more dynamic camara angles

[@catalyst429]

I think this guy likes attack on titan

[@jumpander]

22:30 Bro, that's not green. That's cyan. You've mixed up quite a few colors as of now.

[@thegoldenviper8877]

About the dolly effect it was completely hand drawn as witt at this time were working purely off of hand drawn animations atleast that's what I've heard about it at the time cuz they did make the switch to computer generated scenes

[@FLAMINGEAGLE87]

A new AOT video 😍😍😍

[@Leddderz2TheEdditerz]

What if Hannes ran away from the smiling titan because Eren compelled him to, since he needed her later?

[@JaketheMovieGeek]

Not a bad theory TBH

[@Nerazmus]

Also he needed himself to live :D Let's be real, Hannes would get fucking murdered and then the titan would go after Eren and Mikasa.

[@witherpig3970]

21:10 mikasas face 💀

[@jonatanpinadulucmusic]

How did the basement key end up on Eren´s neck if the last time he saw his father he transformed into a titan?

[@Wolfman7870]

His father put it on him before he injected him with titan fluid. Titan shifters still keep whatever on thier bodies when inside thier titans.

[@alexbattaglia8297]

because Keith Shadis found Eren alone after he transformed and took him back

[@YGhost_05]

5:50 but even when he had the courage he couldn't kill it 🥲

[@DredCthulhu]

This is us still waiting for the second part of the final season's final two part special, I don't think homie has it in him to slaughter everyone outside the walls. I'm assuming he's gonna do the best thing anyone could put in his situation, surround the rest of the world with the Titans and continue the threat of the rumbling but never allowing anyone to forget what the humanity is capable of doing to itself.

[@aNATEoutoften]

i definitely agree with the fact that mikasa’s connection with eren isn’t nearly as strong as Levi and Erwin but there’s a line by Levi in Season 4 about how he never failed to follow a command from erwin except for defeating the beast titan and he is hung up on it for the entire time between erwin’s death and zekes death. Definitely not as strong as the other connection but i do think Levi is Erwin’s “Mikasa”

[@nitinjaat813]

When Armin show Eren a book where they found that ourside the wall there is sea,desert,. Armin s perspective is that he just wanted to see sea whereas in Eren's perspective he found himself being caught in cage with no freedom and this is the fist time eren wanted freedom..all i just want to say that they view same dream but by very different perspective

[@Audioversearchive]

Let’s goooooo RETROSPECTIVES ARE WHAT’S UP. Yeah I’m the guy who watches horror movie breakdowns instead of the actual movie.

[@jordanpatterson8536]

Mikasa's headaches...😉😏

[@johnwilliams9179]

Regarding the headache thing with mikasa,I'm pretty sure eren had a conversation with zek and it came up and one of them decided to make up the bullshit story that it was about the ackerman blood,to push her away.

[@darkglobe420]

its wall MariÁ, the a is accentuated

[@louistech112]

We know his actions are bad but I think we support his reasoning . Also maybe we should question our humanity why are we evil towards each other

[@regularhooman1568]

I too agree that committing global genocide is the best way to handle the situation

[@OK-69420]

I have a question, When exactly did Eren eat his dad?

[@Koroto]

After the walls were breached and the trio moved, his dad showed back up in the night and that's when it happened.

[@metzger5850]

They breached the walls while Grisha was busy slaughtering the Reiss family. He got back at night after all of the chaos and fed Erin a tasty treat.

[@garrison676]

Please make a video on vinland saga

[@Koroto]

I already have one 👀

[@thenosa87]

My favorite part is where Mikasa mouth raps him with a piece of bread

[@lolathepeanut9755]

Can u do Moriarty the patriot s2?

[@whyteddy4292]

I think that mikasa's headaches might have something to do with her royal blood with azumabito. The tattoo on her arm that she covers up might be linked somehow combined with the ackerman strength would be pretty likely in my opinion.

[@justlucafish]

Am i color blind? His eyes are blue

[@xsamura5121]

Yes between this series and The Walking Dead am complete.

[@sealskin5221]

I know this is supposed to make the story seem "even better", but why would Armin open up a story with a lie? It makes no narrative sense. He isn't an unreliable narrator. They open stories with lies. If Armen is narrating the story, and we are pretty much agree that he is at this point, he wouldn't be rehearsing a story that he already knew wasn't true. Also how would he be neutral and retelling something that he was around for that killed a lot of his friends and his BEST FRIEND? It makes no sense.

[@Radiogumdrop]

He’s telling the history as everyone knew at the time. The narration is to make you believe and think the same things the people in the walls believe and think. If he starts off the narration with the truth, the twists and turns when the people learn the truth don’t have the same impact on the audience. The audience is a member of the eldian nation inside the walls and the information given is what the eldians knew as truth back then.

[@exzyyd392]

He's also not being neutral at all? Most of the story is almost entirely focused on Eren, Mikasa and/or Armin. Even the OVA's are about Levi and Annie, people very close to Armin.

[@redahittah4712]

when is the next time?

[@Koroto]

Soon™! 😅

[@Tschokkinenn]

Are You a making video for all episodes in the series

[@Koroto]

That is indeed the plan! Depending on the episode, I may combine a couple into one video (some super lore heavy episodes, for example), but yes - the plan is to cover every single one. 👍

[@craigstephenson7676]

I would like to point out that corps is pronounced like core

[@Secre.SwallowtailYT]

it seems to me eren with the founding modified mikasa

[@bluenovacorgi8230]

Wait didnt eren have to eat his dad to get the attack titan? How was griesha alive in the first episode? Im kinda lost 😅😵‍💫

[@delta9990]

he ate greisha after wall maria falls, when they wake up in the church in ep2, while they were sleeping eren was taken to some forest and then he ate griesha

[@MrBuruberi]

Ok, I can't tell if I'm stupid or blind, but Eren's eyes look blue to me.

[@justinward3218]

That “buh-bye” was kinda creepy.

[@Koroto]

👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

[@tFighterPilot]

I actually hate the decision to kill off a 1/5th of the population. It makes no sense. The area inside wall rose is 453645 square Kilometer. For reference, the area of Germany is 357588 square kilometer. Technology-wise, they're in the early 19th century (pre-industrial). Back then the population of Germany was around 25 million. There is absolutely no reason why the vast majority of the land should stay completely empty.

[@tFighterPilot]

@Coração Acidental The thing is, they do show us that most of the area outside the big cities is empty. There are barely any villages. So the numbers check out with what we see, it's just never properly explained.

[@benhayfield6182]

@Coração Acidental yet I lowkey bugged me that they say 1/3 of the land is lost when the wall is breached, surely it should be much more than that given the way the walls are shown on the map

[@tessastewart6792]

The decision made by the Paradis government to cull part of their population was resource based - likely heavily influenced by available food supplies. I can't quote the episode specifically, but in episode 2, season 1 the Garrison soldiers talk about a food shortage. Not all the land inside the Walls is arable or can be used for pasture. Considering the scarcity of meat and Sasha's comments in the first season, most of the pastoral land was behind Wall Maria, not Rose or Sina. We're not told how much land is available for food production, at least not to my memory. The food isn't distributed equally or according to need either - that's shown repeatedly in the series too. The culling was decided by the Government to protect their control over food supplies and reduce the number of people who can rebel against them when the food shortages became worse. An absolutely abhorrent decision, but not one to do with living space in the walls and a narratively realistic one. It does make sense to the selfish nobles and so they do so and frame it as a heroic campaign against the titans.

[@Demetrius4278ddfgg8]

They did the music que with riener "confusion" to eren that he did it to save the world. Even after he confuses its qued with the audience applauding like it was a performance which is then followed by eren mocking his performance

[@LuckyRican]

SPOILERS FOR FINAL EPISODE ⅕ of the popuation was destroyed when trying to retake wall maria, thats 20% of the entire population of paradis. At the end of the story, only ⅘ of the entire population of the world was destroyed from th rumbling, leaving only 20% I wonder if theres some connection there too? Edited for spoilers warning

[@JaketheMovieGeek]

Wow I never realized that

[@grugnotice7746]

The tragedy Eren created was no worse than the one Magath created. Genocide is genocide. The only difference is that Magath's was unprovoked.

[@metzger5850]

Nah

[@grugnotice7746]

@@metzger5850 Would you sacrifice all life on Earth to save 100x as many aliens who were trying to kill all humans?

[@TheFlamingDraco]

pog

[@bob513993]

Crows aren’t universally understood to represent death. Various cultures view them as either wise or trickster type beings, as well. That said, it’s probably fair to assume they’re representing Death here. Also, if the Ackermann thing is at all accurate but it doesn’t affect Levi like Mikasa, maybe it’s because he already lost who he would’ve wanted to protect? And his defender mechanism kicks in for his own safety rather than any other person as a result?

[@jordanpatterson8536]

Nah, Zeke literally debunks that whole Ackermann host stuff. And he said fiction, not the world's cultures.

[@kennyrlarsen]

God, I didn’t put it together that Reiner and Bertholdt are only 12 years old when they break through the wall. We don’t see their human forms, so I automatically thought of them as being the age they are during the rest of Season 1

[@hughjanos3992]

common eren L, common marley W

[@aerieleah533]

I will say don't give the show too much credit. They don't know a lot of what is going to happen and occasionally just do something because they think it would look cool. For example, the ending of season one change. That one bothered me a lot. Setting the scene, the tunnel caves in on Eren. He gets injured and transforms, then ultimately goes berserk and that is what allows him to beat Annie. What happened in the manga was a lot cleaner cut character development. No random cave in. No berserk mode Eren. Just the opposite. It's the first time he intelligently introspects and fights alongside the Scouts. He even gives Mikasa the boost she needs to reach Annie's fingertips as she climbs the wall. He's a lot more pensive, suddenly understanding that his enemy has a face and a goal, and he actually tries to understand. The anime says Eren needs to be more titan to win; the manga that he needs to be more man. The arc made more sense in the manga, since Eren already tried flailing about like a dying fish.

[@kevinwahl5610]

I wish AoT followed the story of the 100 survivors

[@junkdogray420]

MANGA SPOILERS!!!! The reason Mikasa has headaches was because Eren had shown her a a alternate future. They also traveled to pass memories, which is why every time she has a headache it’s because her future self is watching.

[@JaketheMovieGeek]

No it’s Ymir glancing into her memories