How The Lakers Destroyed The BEST YOUNG CORE In The NBA

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[@devinhughes2554]

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[@devinhughes2554]

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[@paul66.6]

At least they've won a ring, but maybe they should keep the role players

[@DeVoidAS]

The only mistake they made was trading for Westbrook, whilst giving up KCP, Kuzma, and Caruso in the process, and not signing Derozan or trading for Hield and Turner instead. The 2020 title vindicated ALL of their decisions before that to get superstars for their future.

[@Defort-jd8xe]

hmmmm.. I wonder.. who was the reason they traded for Westbrook..

[@emmanuelenyinwa1443]

@@Defort-jd8xe Why does that matter? Besides, Westbrook has actually been a great thread. With Lebron and AD missing do many games, imagine how unwatchable the team would be without Westbrook?

[@manz7860]

@@Defort-jd8xe Lebron undervalued guys like Caruso, Kuzma, and KCP. If lebron says pay caruso over westbrook. Pelinka asks how much.

[@TheGamingShogun]

@@manz7860 not really because multiple times they ignored what lebron wanted. as why they have russ now. they would've had derozan but the front office didn't want to pay derozan so lebron settled for russ who was comming off a 20 poiint triple double

[@w.camera1204]

Agreed, bro. Very well said.

[@adamadams6943]

That young core would be competitive but probably wouldn’t be contenders. Lebron and AD got the ring. Also by now a lot of those players would be done with their rookie contracts, so they probably wouldn’t be able to afford to keep them all.

[@capslock196]

Fax

[@Pilifo006]

Exactly, I mean if they had been able to keep half of the young players, they could be better now but I don't think they would be a championship contender. So it was still worth it, they got the chip so who can complain? Dynasties like the Warriors are pretty rare so 1 title in 4 seasons (so far) after getting LBJ is really not bad at all.

[@bandito241]

The only reason they aren’t contenders was because AD is always injured and they traded their depth away for Westbrook (a desperate move due to AD always being injured)

[@CDodger24]

There's no one in there that can be considered as a number 1 guy. All robins, number 3s and rotational players.

[@emmanuelrevilla6460]

@@CDodger24 So Brandon Ingram isn't a "number 1 guy" to you bro?

[@yourebreakingmyballs4787]

The Zubac trade was a real head scratcher. I understand the Ingram, Lonzo, hart trade for AD but they traded Big Z for nothing

[@Vrbaski]

The AD trade kindda sucks too, considering he was going to be a free agent in the summer, and they could have just signed him instead of trading an absolute haul

[@yourebreakingmyballs4787]

@@Vrbaski they didn't want to waste two straight prime LeBron seasons

[@richieave55]

Zubac was soft asf! i don't get why people liked that dude .. he was scared to defend EVERYONE!!!

[@yourebreakingmyballs4787]

@@richieave55 he's way better than Muscala!!!

[@richieave55]

@@yourebreakingmyballs4787 i agree

[@dadzkiemalaco127]

The worst decision that the lakers have done was trading ivica zubac to clippers and trading away kuzma, kcp, harrell for w westbrick but, the most heartbreaking trade for me was Javale mcgee, got traded to the cavs for non important player that got waived after the trade.💔💔

[@ACLA23]

They should’ve kept McGee howard Caruso and rondo. The rest of them were either bad or inconsistent

[@bartomiej9807]

@@ACLA23 Not Rondo. His playoff performance is usefull, but he also is a nightmare in a locker room. There was enough toxicicity among the team without him.

[@richieave55]

Zubac is soft asf!

[@Slicktheruler]

@@bartomiej9807 disagree

[@jordanmartinez8522]

The overhaul after winning the bubble was the big question mark for me. Why would a team change a whole roster after winning a chip

[@elayda93]

almost every team does that. I hate it. It's stupid. I remember Dallas in 2011, after they won the fvxked up their roster I mean why???

[@Akniy]

@@elayda93 well the nba is in an era where consistency wins championships. Just look at the warriors. And then look at the teams that have won only once in last ten year

[@montiz333]

that part..

[@urbaindelva7869]

Most of the players from their championship roster were veterans in their early to mid 30s. However, they still could've done a much better job retooling.

[@a-abelase9887]

I feel like that staying in LA they wouldn't have developed in what they are today

[@emmanuelenyinwa1443]

So, WHO is the All NBA player in that bunch?

[@poppatheegoat]

Facts most of them are scorer so they need to shoot the ball

[@IzukuLuffyAsta]

Randle, Ingram, D'Angelo Russell, Lonzo Ball, Clarkson looks solid young core but all need the ball in their hands to be effective which wasn't possible if they stayed in LA. Also, the Lakers owner being cheap would cause one or two to leave for 🤑🤑 e.g. BI, D'Angelo, and Randle got big 🤑. Though Randle walks away when Bron came (F.O. sucks that they didn't get anything back for him). Trading zubac is the worst thing they did and also the last trade with Russ.

[@keithneverson4127]

They all had signs of being great. They could've been what Golden State Warriors is atm.

[@dadzkiemalaco127]

It is all worth it. Winning a championship is the only Goal for every team in the NBA.

[@manz7860]

Big eh. You act like the lakers didn't have 16 of them

[@nonooooo6174]

It’s honestly crazy how many good players the lakers traded away!

[@bkrendan12]

Yeah that’s the point of the video as a whole lol

[@CDodger24]

They wouldn't develop in Lakers anyway. Fans are nasty and whole organization can't develop young guys.

[@solimankarlstenclairb.7396]

LeBum ruined everything for 1 🏆 😂

[@ACLA23]

@@solimankarlstenclairb.7396the whole point is to win

[@juliothom2408]

THEY WON A TITLE. By definition, that makes this successful.

[@sonaffe2248]

I loved how you included certain highlights that defined the talked about seasons

[@La_Llave_De_La_Cerradura]

Love the longer video format. Thank you!!

[@MrOrthodox13]

Did our boy Stefan major/Master in Journalism? This is outstanding!

[@musix3197]

You know what as a Lakers fan I'm satisfied with a ring as the reward.

[@MrJestrada2]

One ring? For all of those assets? I've got a bridge to sell you my friend.

[@jjcornelio7741]

@@MrJestrada2 yes! those young core wont win you a ring

[@hunchohuey1200]

@@MrJestrada2 1 Ring or 0 Rings ?

[@takecarebpk]

You ain’t a laker fan you a Lebrick fan 😂

[@jd9050]

@@MrJestrada2 They all won't grow as the player they are today if they were still together

[@abdulrashidkhan3510]

another amazing video! Thank you ! Very interesting

[@jeffclassic7205]

As a Lakers fan I’m so upset that we traded away so many young and high potential players. And people saying that they wouldn’t have been competing for a title, we’ll never know cause we never saw it

[@RudieObias]

If you’re a Lakers fan, you’d know the team traded those players to win the NBA Finals and they did in 2020. The whole point is to win and not have the potential to win

[@jeffclassic7205]

@@RudieObias but I’d rather have a good 10 years of team success and the possibility of a championship then win one and be dead in the water for the next probably ten years

[@RudieObias]

@@jeffclassic7205 It's very unlikely this team would've gone anywhere and would've been blown up in a few years anyway, while missing the playoffs again and again. You're looking at mediocrity, which is no place for any NBA fan should be. Not good enough to make the playoffs, but not terrible enough to get a top pick to improve. Championships are really hard to come by, even for the Lakers and Celtics.

[@YourFitnessQuest]

They sure have unloaded a lot of talent to other teams over the last several years.

[@joemagwood9130]

All those guys together will at minimum get you to the play in tournament.

[@Leonfromre4and2]

@@joemagwood9130 at this point in their careers? the lakers would be a contender for sure assuming they were a bit more healthy

[@Leonfromre4and2]

assuming they signed lebron*

[@kerzonmendoza6023]

@@Leonfromre4and2 they wont flourish with lebron as much as they are right now with their own teams

[@layneandrews8833]

@@Leonfromre4and2 Imagine their starting line up right now being Lonzo, Clarkson, Ingram, Randle and Zubac

[@Przepior86]

On the one hand you are right, they had a great core, but at that time noone was sure how the young players would develop. Also it was not clear if they would commit to the team long term or look for a bigger role somewhere else in the future. Trading for James was a move like Raptors did for Leonard. Look how hard it is to win a championship. Everything needs to go perfectly. So even this one championship the LAL won with James might be more than the young core would ever win (look at Phili and the process, or the young core of the Thunder- 3 later MVPs that did not win the championship)

[@michaelhelms5899]

Great vid I have been thinking about this for years now🤔

[@rockonileva]

This is the way I like to see teams develop? Not at all... I love to see teams being built. Developing the players, getting pieces here and there. Like the Nuggets now, the Celtics, Tim Duncan spurs, the Pre/PostKD Warriors, The Grizzlies , the Pelicans now. It's way more interesting than teaming up superstars.

[@matejtrepac1314]

Damn... I miss all those young guys 😢😒 It was fun to watch the young up-and-comming Lakers developing together and enjoying it out on the court. I know we got Lebron and ring for it but well.. 🤷‍♂️ now it will take years for us to be contending and/ or playing nice basketball again 😒 GREAT VID THOUGH!! 👏👏👏

[@skproductions8495]

the young Lakers around 2018- 2019 were fun to watch for sure, even if they weren’t gonna be contenders

[@donigilobor7721]

Great analysis...🙂

[@eldofikrialvin]

I love your content, make a video about the suns pls

[@swasho2939]

FINALLY someone made a video about this

[@shun8733]

Yep . Nd could have also had Darius garland with the 4th picc , or we would have been a little worse if we still had the young core and got the first or second and been able to bring ja or Zion to the lakers .

[@cjchris3934]

Totally was worth it. You gotta think the end goal is to win a chip and that’s all that mattered in the end.

[@abelcain945]

In one word... UNREAL

[@IAmAlmightyGod]

I've been waiting for someone to say this. It needed to be said.

[@user_Z-]

I’d say it was worth it. They won the most unique championship in NBA history, something that has only been done once and possibly never again. I know people like to say “bubble ring” as a meme but it’s pretty cool to say “I won the one and only NBA championship in the bubble”

[@kingmeruem1]

as a miami fan i can't say that it was JUST a bubble ring and not counted with lebron's legacy. It was an insult to butler that did his best with 48 mins a game.

[@OBODZ1]

Its incredibly difficult to win a championship, literally 1/30 teams a year. They won one. The young core doesn't get you anywhere. None of the projected 'stars' turned out good enough even after being the 1st or 2nd option on a different team. "Destroying" the young core is well worth it.

[@reidb6327]

And they wouldn’t all develop to how good they are now if they were on the same team

[@johnmarkson1998]

true. there are very few young cores that can put up a dynasty like warriors / spurs. lakers were not that at all. at best 1 ring is all they would win. lebron just speed it up. i doubt lakers are gonna win anything again for another 10 or so years.

[@sherlock4791]

Sometime 1/30 teams in 3 years

[@titodabull1124]

It's now safe to say that " these shoulder were built for a reason " lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@christopheribeiro4325]

This trade line was so crazy that everything changed DLO is back in LA.

[@sofost72]

They did win a Championship though. Isn't that the ultimate goal ? :D

[@ivanott7196]

yeah they did but it seems like they will be out of any good rebuilding years with all the pick gone. So now probably Lebron and AD will have 2 years more, plus some years to draft new players and some more years to see the new players develop. Then tell me, when the Lakers will be in the playoff again?

[@sofost72]

LA is a big market . Multiple super stars will want to go there in the future.

[@ivanott7196]

@@sofost72 Only if Lakers can sign them as free agent. Because I dont think Lakers has any assets to trade for them. In the upcoming years, Lakers picks are not really worthy to trade, or even they still have a chance to get high drafted players, means the players development will be slow. There's no team want to trade their stars also for crappy underdevelop players. Lakers also doesn't have a good history developing young players since Kobe Bryant. Young players will have less motivation to develop because they'll know Lakers will trade them for stars if they show any sign of development.

[@tdarts7414]

@@ivanott7196 I mean There are Teams / Orgs that haven't even won a ring since their foundation So a Ring for a young core and Picks + a couple of years sucking balls is a pretty lopsided trade IMO The ring was worth it

[@johnmarkson1998]

@@ivanott7196 stars will force a move to LA.

[@ray101892]

The lights are just too bright in LA. The fans are entitled/impatient and the Lakers management will succumb to popular demand because unlike other team owners, the Buss family does not have the cash to go too much over the luxury. These players won't have the time to develop and make mistakes. And then there's the night scene. If you're a rookie who just signed his contract and got your first million, of course LA will offer plenty of distractions. I really hate the notion of "LA is a big market so it will always attract the rookies and free agents" because you're in the nba to play basketball and win, not live the celebrity life. I hope future players will take these things into consideration instead of thinking about being part of a "storied" franchise and selling out.

[@getoffthisrocktravel2054]

Correct. Its ALOT of pressure in LA for rookies. Lebron is great but he is a team&coach killer as he gets what he wants. He would rather play with established vets

[@badmontad]

It was that westbrook trade that was really the chefs kiss. Trading for AD was justified and nobody could have foreseen the injury issues but the westbrook trade was soooo questionable when it happened and as expected was not a success.

[@Smoothbone21]

People who don’t know Basketball will say all those guys on the team didn’t do nothing… but forget that they were all damm near Rookies.

[@markibash2689]

Most of those dudes in picture are simply solid role players in their respective teams. Nothing impressive to lose your shit about. To add on even further, usage rate is very important to emphasize when predicting the stats for Kuzma, ingram, zo, dlo, etc. to add on even further, there’s no telling how they’d develop in the postseason

[@Leo-pq9qi]

This is the longest Heat Check video ever

[@repulse_]

Worth it. Look at all the teams with promising young players that have never won a ring (OKC Thunder comes to mind) or all time players that have never won a ring (cp3, stockton, barkley, nash).. Their mistake was trading for Westbrook instead of Buddy Hield + Myles Turner and letting go of Caruso to extend THT. They didn't want to trade THT for Lowry as well

[@jaxsonbateman]

It's an interesting one. I think it falls into a very neutral position. On the positive side, they won a chip. In theory, in a balanced league, every team should be winning about one every 30 odd years (of course, it isn't a balanced league, but that's why it's theoretical). On the negative side, it's bad how uncompetitive they've seemed in the past two years - they didn't have a contender status for nearly long enough to be satisfying for their fans. I mean, take the Bucks for example. They've only one the won chip recently, but they've been contending for years now, and still are. Fans are much more forgiving of 'only' winning one chip if the team is putting in good seasons and having a chance for the years surrounding that chip. I'd be a bit dismayed if I was a Lakers fan. It's nice they won the chip, but even if the team stayed pretty healthy, the surrounding role players just aren't at the calibre of some other teams, and they don't seem to be trying to make moves to change that.

[@vinejoshuajumao-as]

In short, today the Lakers roster is trash (except for the superstars and the exceptional ones).

[@smilesmile9355]

As a laker fan I didn't like on how they managed on there young core like zubac that can be a solid pair to ad at center position or back up and Lonzo ball on being a good playmaker plus elite defender that can help lebron reduce his burden on the court

[@GabrielRodriguez-wh5ce]

That Javale, Stephenson moment was goofy asf nahhhhhh

[@geared2cre8]

Bron, keep your head up and never stop pushing

[@mobilelegendsmemes]

I mean tbh, I think it's better this way so they can shine better on a new team where they got traded.

[@sgsavitar522]

As a die hard Laker fan I appreciate the one ring. I also miss having homegrown talents like BI, Randle, Kuzma, Clarkson and I didn’t care for Ball. Clarkson Kuz and Randle were my favorites. Now we have none I like Max and that the only real laker we have rn it’s sad. I hope we don’t make the playoffs and LBJ ask for a trade and we ship AD for some 1st picks and get back to homegrown talent!

[@elliseeey7910]

Could have gotten JASON TAYTUM

[@adrienchl4265]

Austin reaves ????

[@benso309]

On my opinion that whats destroyed the future lakers. Having pieces built around lebron rather than those improving the young ones.

[@dariansmith337]

That’s a lot of talent

[@rudybacsan5050]

Healthy line up more championships 🔥🔥🔥

[@realking4918]

That was a championship roster! Multiple chips! Lebum strikes again!

[@teddisuryadi4798]

What lakers need is player development. Build young cores for future dynasty

[@ACLA23]

They have literally never did that. Since the 60s they won one by signing wilt, the next they tricked stupid team into giving them picks for magic and worthy and also signed Kareem. Then they signed Shaq and made a smart trade for Kobe. Then they traded for Pau Gasol. Then they sucked until they signed lebron and traded for AD. The lakers don’t do development

[@Crnicelad]

If you have a chance for a championship, you take it. Simple as that, there are too many variables and even with the young guys they could forever be stuck in 3rd or 4th place considering how good all the teams are right now - so that 1 ring is definitely worth it.

[@rockonileva]

It's kind like life itself. All the plans need require a share of luck to reach success. AD is injury prone, but the opportunity to have a lot of time off before the playoffs was exactly what the Lakers needed to get healthy on the Playoffs. Everyone was out of rhythm so they could manage their health without the main consequence of it.

[@patrickstarfish420]

I would honestly would want that rebuilding roster than we've got today. At least those guys were fun to watch

[@ezra3356]

if they were able to retain that rooster, bro they're going to be title contender today

[@peyondi]

Next year with 30+ mil in cap space they will get a big name guy (whether its by giving a trade exception to a team or straight up signing), plus russ re-sign with LA they will be loaded!!!!

[@scissor_713exe4]

I feel like that injury bron had changed him bc before it he still played like 2018 bron after it he olay good and amazing still but not like he was in 2018 just like he does now

[@johnperry7495]

Okay, now do a video about all the teams who kept all their drafted players and recap how many championships they have in the last 4 years.

[@urbaindelva7869]

I don't think the Lakers would've been able to keep all of those pieces because of the financial commitment it would've taken (even if they probably wouldn't have cost much), but they damn sure could've kept a good number of them. To answer the question, it was a good idea in the short term. But absolutely not for the long term. I'm still laughing at the Lakers fans who turned on Kuzma and started making jokes about him playing in China. Also, Brook Lopez didn't really fit their timeline, but they still could've gotten something for him.

[@Pilifo006]

If they had been able to keep half of the young players, they could be better now but I don't think they would be a championship contender. So it was still worth it, they got the chip so who can complain? Dynasties like the Warriors are pretty rare so 1 title in 4 seasons (so far) after getting LBJ is really not bad at all.

[@kimbangnguyen6099]

correct bro. This is realistic speaking.

[@filibuster_jpr]

We love Lakers move of self gratification now to win the championship than wait for nothing after 5 years or so.

[@jepoybengco]

Its all worth it man they got a ring back in the Bubble but in a long run they cost them a lot.

[@saucerfullofzepp4203]

Last time I heard Ingram & KD comparisons there was no Kung Fu cough in existence.

[@jomargumboc7618]

Zubac was on the way to be traded anyway because he was going to become an RFA at the end of the season, and Lakers were saving cap space for free agents (Kawhi, etc.) what Laker fans were salty about was the measly return for Big Zu.

[@erebor4nierdzewny970]

THX Magic :)

[@jaybee5315]

Forgot Larry Nance Jr. used 11 in Portland and now a former Laker in Josh Hart uses the same number in the same team.

[@dariuskimbrough8215]

As a long time lakers fan I think about all the players we traded at least 10 times a year 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@strelov1520]

most of teams are dreaming to do something similar. so yes, it worth. No one knew if all of mentioned talents become core players in their new teams

[@Arkane117]

Magic Johnson knew what he was doing as a GM…

[@secret120]

Having Zubac as your center when AD is out eould have been huge. He He's been a big reason why the Clips are going strong without KL and PG.

[@flacomd30h15]

"was it all worth it for a ring in the bubble?" Me:👁️👄👁️🤔

[@Bidkar17]

Please make an OKC/Shai video. Things are getting spicy in the West

[@pauloigbokwe]

Tbh absolutely worth it If they retained the young core there's nothing that guarantees a championship....they could have just been contenders for years with nothing to show Plus, half of that young core is heavily injury prone so...

[@user-ep1ur8xx4m]

THT in Jazz lookking solid as well, showing great potenital another lakers miss

[@AAMM101]

This is crazy.

[@mcc6008]

No trading the Heat Check. YT will keep you forever!!!

[@jdelgado216]

They were fine up until the Westbrook trade, after that it was all downhill. Not only they gave away KCP and Kuzma, somehow Pelinka gave them a pick too...

[@zavthe1371]

Lakers on top of the world now LETS GO

[@seanwinarto700]

As a lakers fan i have no regrets except for the zubac trade

[@jamwick9526]

11:29 what the F was that? 😂

[@bradleybailey8893]

It's true that we traded away a lot, but in the end that core could not have guaranteed as a championship whereas LeBron and Davis can guarantee as a championship considering we already got one. So even still in my eyes it's worth it

[@Babumoshaaai]

Walt Disney 🏆

[@atomsk1972]

Winning cures everything - what a sick world.

[@jaydell4039]

@@Babumoshaaai😂😂😂😂

[@bradleybailey8893]

@@Babumoshaaai Walt Disney chip or not. We still won it and your team didn't

[@bradleybailey8893]

@@atomsk1972 you play the win. That's the point

[@jomargumboc7618]

fyi Julius Randle was the one who requested the Maginka FO to pull the qualifying offer, because he wasn't getting any offer sheet from any team only when the qualifying offer was pulled did the NOLA swooped in to offer Randle a 1+1yr 9+9M contract because Rondo got the same contract, us in the Lakers reddit were joking that Julius was traded for Rajon

[@manz7860]

I was always mad we picked Gonzo over Tatum. But then realize he would've been traded for AD regardless.

[@geraldskitv6051]

It's all about the title.

[@pony999]

Would there even be any ring without the bubble?

[@romanoreginaldadrielle5585]

Bruh, i must've forgotten Randle played for the Pels

[@WHITEPERSUAS1ON]

These players certainly would not have blossomed if they were all on the same roster. They all got their own teams essentially BI and Lonzo got to be the guys in NO DLo became the lone (All)Star Randle became the guy for the Knicks Clarkson became THE 6TH man Kuzma got to stick around and was pretty good, but is really shining in DC

[@billyclutch]

What are we looking at here? None of those players, several years later, have established a level of undeniable championship talent as a first or second option.

[@meninoglipster]

Make a video about the built of the Celtics young core

[@alexandrelct826]

Well I think that lakers couldn't wait years and years to develop this young core to play the title in the future. For many reasons, because even the last kobe years was tanking years they already waits many time with a none competitive team for the kobe's tour, but it was pretty clear that they will not wait many years again for none of this youngs, which I think is a good way to think. Another reason is that even if all those young dudes shows great individual skills, none of them was even close to be a star, none of them was a leader, and most of them wasn't very fitable the one with the others. I ain't chocked that they traded a good young core for a 1 shot title with lebron, this is the main and only goal in nba to win the title. And at last the lakers structure didn't successed to developp well those youngs, everyone of them became a way better player after their trade, because they get in environnements with less pressure, and better basketball structures (lakers wasn't competitive), and more responsabilities. What chocked me is that in the Magic's brain get rid off rookies contracts is a way to get cap space.... look like he didn't known that rookie contracts is the most easier think to handle for the cap space. They should trade some of this youngs, but it was absolutely silly to trade ALL these young to get a cap space that is now given to Westbrook only because he had a star name, and one years vets with no legs. I'm pretty sure that a guy like DLO would be an excellent 3rd offensive option with lebron in the role that Kyrie did had in Cleveland.

[@kadenmiller3358]

I didn't know these guys would all get the same opportunity they did without the lakers.......

[@edisonamoguis6710]

That young core can't stay longer. They're basketball growth will eventually skyrocket thereby leading to what may be ugly breakups.

[@modom7132]

Even had a sixth man to go with the starting lineup

[@hexigin8695]

The 18-19 Lakers were hovering on the 6th or 7th seed when Lebron was playing with Lonzo during January or February. But after Lonzo got injured it all went downhill from there. Even B.I. said that season fell apart because of the Lonzo Imjiry

[@marlowswindow]

Every Laker fan is like well we got one championship, knowing deep in their heart that this man is right.

[@fabianocostacoelho3591]

Perfect video, except that LeGM is never to be explicitly blamed. He loves superstars and shooters, and he wants no part with any development. It is no surprise most shined after being freed from his presence.

[@Charlie-ee4vi]

That's the effect of LeGM Hahaha!

[@issotoudabueno0433]

playoff appearance for 6 years ( first or 2nd round exit ) vs a ring and 5 miserable years !!! I'll take the ring

[@manilastreetsnap11]

Ring. That’s the difference.

[@kadenorgill4438]

I miss watching this your laker squad

[@Itzbrain]

To be fair a lot of these players would have never come into their own with the limited minutes and pressure of the Lakers.