How the Minnesota Timberwolves squandered Kevin Garnett's prime, then lost him

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@Baseballbat95
@Baseballbat95 4 жыл бұрын
Boston took Kevin Garnett, Randy Moss, and David Ortiz from Minnesota all in a span of 4 years
@SkolneyVikings
@SkolneyVikings 4 жыл бұрын
They took Moss from Oakland actually.
@aroobism
@aroobism 4 жыл бұрын
Oakland?
@SkolneyVikings
@SkolneyVikings 4 жыл бұрын
@@aroobism Vikings traded him to Oakland. 2 years later the Raiders traded him to the Pats.
@Chris-ve7gy
@Chris-ve7gy 4 жыл бұрын
KAT to the celtics confirmed
@stoozdee
@stoozdee 4 жыл бұрын
Chris9 😂😂👏🏽👏🏽
@Virgil37160
@Virgil37160 4 жыл бұрын
"Glen Taylor didn't really help. He's just really rich." That about sums it up
@hassanmohamud3096
@hassanmohamud3096 4 жыл бұрын
Dudes a bum
@JWex-jy7sk
@JWex-jy7sk 4 жыл бұрын
@North StarState He’s even the reason why KG refuses to return to the Target Center for a number retirement. Said until Glen Taylor’s gone, he ain’t stepping foot in that building!
@Veaseify
@Veaseify 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that every owner? What do they actually do except cut checks?
@superBAkid
@superBAkid 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Veasey Mark Cuban is way way way way way smarter than most of the owners. His basketball knowledge is very high.
@capitanawesome44
@capitanawesome44 4 жыл бұрын
So McHale literally signed those deals and his costars were babies having two years left on their deals. But Garnett has no malice towards him. McHale did the deal that lost them first to round picks. And then got mCcants and Foye!!!! He traded him to BOS for Al Jefferson... I am not going to say Taylor is a great owner but Garnett also wasn’t the closer in BOS.. proving he just wasnt Duncan. He was flashier and had super talent but one is the best PF of all time the other has defense that puts him slightly above Dirk who was able to win his title as the top dog.
@torachan23
@torachan23 4 жыл бұрын
At least Kevin Garnett won’t have an “Untitled” episode about him
@yesd2024
@yesd2024 4 жыл бұрын
But he won a championship
@Tom-eq7eh
@Tom-eq7eh 4 жыл бұрын
@@yesd2024 well yeah...
@Bran-Da-Don
@Bran-Da-Don 4 жыл бұрын
He would've had one if not for the trade to Boston. He was headed for the Charles Barkley/Karl Malone route if not for that.
@rtrn_1369
@rtrn_1369 4 жыл бұрын
Ashvith D u might wanna read the comment again
@weregretohio7728
@weregretohio7728 4 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the NBA is so Big 3/Laker/Celtic focused.
@Tex_Mex_A_Lex
@Tex_Mex_A_Lex 4 жыл бұрын
If KG had those uncut gems, he would've won a finals in Minneapolis.
@RobbieStacks90
@RobbieStacks90 4 жыл бұрын
No he wouldn't have. He had an uncut gem in Marbury, before he blew up on the Nets, and young Wally, and he did nothing. Garnett needed a stacked team to win a ring. Basketball is a team game, but if you want the shine and you want people to say YOU won, then you have to carry your team like AD did against Portland a few years ago in the playoffs as massive underdogs with trash players around him.
@brandonalejandroblanco
@brandonalejandroblanco 4 жыл бұрын
Zenigundam So I guess you haven’t seen the movie Uncut Gems yet lmao
@RobbieStacks90
@RobbieStacks90 4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonalejandroblanco I saw the commercial for it, but it looks stupid.
@brandonalejandroblanco
@brandonalejandroblanco 4 жыл бұрын
Zenigundam What he’s referring to is a direct reference to something in the movie it’s not a reference to his teammates at all.
@RobbieStacks90
@RobbieStacks90 4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonalejandroblanco I get that now, but take a step back before I hit you.
@barryallen871
@barryallen871 4 жыл бұрын
I used to think Sam Cassell looked old on those Twolves teams. Now he's a coach and looks the same age.
@alikaan5968
@alikaan5968 4 жыл бұрын
He just ugly
@jasonfire3434
@jasonfire3434 4 жыл бұрын
Aliens don't age 😝
@showtimesb7069
@showtimesb7069 4 жыл бұрын
Would y’all fight mike Tyson 🥊💨 m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/maLEoHV_esh-p6M
@hectorandem2944
@hectorandem2944 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonfire3434 Mark Zuckerberh would like a word with you (don't worry, it's all telepathic).
@vt248
@vt248 4 жыл бұрын
Dat boii look like ET's first cousin
@calebgee7477
@calebgee7477 4 жыл бұрын
Its a beautiful day in Minnesota, I was happy and ready for a good day, then this video was dropped in front of me
@smoothmiles24
@smoothmiles24 4 жыл бұрын
Bro right?
@Zachito15
@Zachito15 4 жыл бұрын
Growing up a Twolves fan after the Bulls dismantled, 2004 made me very happy. That said I haven’t been as happy since 2004
@raphael9783
@raphael9783 4 жыл бұрын
Fan since 99' me neither.
@Connor_Duncan
@Connor_Duncan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your young core but I think your new gm has done a great job I see you getting Milsap or Love
@raphael9783
@raphael9783 4 жыл бұрын
@@Connor_Duncan I like him as well. They need a defensive center/Forwars so they can move kat to PF/C. Hopefully our dark days will be behind us soon.
@advicegiant9433
@advicegiant9433 4 жыл бұрын
Growing up a Pistons fan we were thrilled the bulls finally dismantled and Detroit won it all in 2004.
@Zachito15
@Zachito15 4 жыл бұрын
Advice Giant Detroit was my tied second team along with the Pistons. Sadly that team could’ve won more. Great Pistons teams
@Zoyx
@Zoyx 4 жыл бұрын
As a T-wolves fan, so glad Garnett got his title. He wasn't going to get it in Minnesota.
@CasterShellz
@CasterShellz 4 жыл бұрын
Zoyx yeah because no all star player wanted to sacrifice millions to play with the highest paid player in the league
@immafatazn
@immafatazn 4 жыл бұрын
Shonen nah the wolves are just one of the worst organizations in the league
@well.thy.one.
@well.thy.one. 4 жыл бұрын
Alexandre A wcf vs LA was rigged...this coming from a kobe stan in those days
@Seraph89_
@Seraph89_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@well.thy.one. You are not wrong, but all sports are fixed. The NBA, NFL, NHL, UFC, etc. Mainly in the playoffs. In the NHL I've noticed the team in the playoffs that sells the highest price ticket normally wins the Stanley Cup. Only one or 2 years out of the past 25 this wasn't the case.
@well.thy.one.
@well.thy.one. 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Bob interesting about the ticket prices. I definitely think they are all a bit suspect, at least at times.
@jaywaz680
@jaywaz680 4 жыл бұрын
As a Wolves fan, I thought I couldn’t get anymore miserable
@obex5044
@obex5044 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Waz yep
@Zachito15
@Zachito15 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Waz Good teams that got ousted in the first round. Only great team lasted one year. Won 58 games with Olowakandi as the center lol
@meekmeads
@meekmeads 4 жыл бұрын
Your State is burning and about to become the Third World. Being a Wolves fan is the least of your worries!
@jaywaz680
@jaywaz680 4 жыл бұрын
Miko Mido I’m not from Minnesota...
@yao8
@yao8 4 жыл бұрын
Try talking to the Knicks fans 🤣🤣
@Jarekthegamingdragon
@Jarekthegamingdragon 4 жыл бұрын
You guys could have a hay day with the Jail Blazers era
@macewbee
@macewbee 3 жыл бұрын
Andy hoop all ready did that.
@jonahwhitney5455
@jonahwhitney5455 4 жыл бұрын
Garnett was a different kind of beast in Minnesota. Its a shame it took going somewhere else to get a title.
@nabii5951
@nabii5951 4 жыл бұрын
He was my favorite player when I was a really little kid. He loved the game so much, he played with so much fire, and I was thrilled when he helped the Celts to the title in 2008. This from a Sixers fan.
@josephengelbrekt483
@josephengelbrekt483 4 жыл бұрын
I was so happy to see him win in Boston after he left Minnesota. The only downside is that now ESPN refuses to admit he ever wore a T-Wolves uniform.
@Olegusar777
@Olegusar777 4 жыл бұрын
What is the issue with ESPN you’re talking about?
@josephengelbrekt483
@josephengelbrekt483 4 жыл бұрын
@@Olegusar777 East Coast bias and ESPN's proximity to Boston, coupled with Minnesota's irrelevancy in a small market. Watching their coverage when KG retired, you could have sworn he only played in Boston. Highlights, interviews, etc. I mean, I get it why ESPN does that, but here a player who spent 14 years of his career in the Twin Cities.
@kevinwang1778
@kevinwang1778 4 жыл бұрын
@@nabii5951 same! i am 29 now, and rememebered watching him in 04 while i was in my secondary school. how old are u?
@matthewshortle5274
@matthewshortle5274 4 жыл бұрын
Being Minnesota sports fan is like getting punched in the groin every single year.
@benrider6353
@benrider6353 4 жыл бұрын
and then coming back willingly every year knowing the same thing will happen again
@Vito_Caligiuri
@Vito_Caligiuri 4 жыл бұрын
All of our sports teams are trash. At least we have the Lynx....right?
@matthewshortle5274
@matthewshortle5274 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vito_Caligiuri Twins used to be good but now they're owned by the Yankees. WNBA shouldn't count.
@Vito_Caligiuri
@Vito_Caligiuri 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Shortle hey u said it, not me lol
@fv8399
@fv8399 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Vikings were good? Idk I'm not really into football
@roryjamesoconnell
@roryjamesoconnell 4 жыл бұрын
The early 2010s Detroit Tigers would make a fine subject.
@roymccoy332
@roymccoy332 4 жыл бұрын
The rangers around that time as well.
@williamle4474
@williamle4474 4 жыл бұрын
Roy McCoy both teams ran into the even year train that was the giants
@averywashingtonjr3528
@averywashingtonjr3528 4 жыл бұрын
The Giants was crucial tho
@hennylo68
@hennylo68 4 жыл бұрын
Man I picked them to win it all since to 2010 up until 2015 when I just gave up.
@foursup3139
@foursup3139 4 жыл бұрын
Noooo I couldn’t take that 😂
@marcus813
@marcus813 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how badly the Timberwolves blew KG's prime years. He could've been the centerpiece of a title team in Minneapolis.
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 2 жыл бұрын
His contact was too big. 126 million in those days. The NBA had a hard cap then. They could resign anyone nor purchase good free agents
@TEAMGETHELP
@TEAMGETHELP Жыл бұрын
What chanp were they beating?😅
@dumisatonyjohnson8145
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 Жыл бұрын
Who were the Wolves beating at that point? Spurs? Mavericks? LA Lakers? Jail Blazers? C’mon now
@uncreative5766
@uncreative5766 4 жыл бұрын
I was way too young to know or remember KG in Minnesota, but this was excellent and interesting. I never knew about his supporting cast until now.
@macewbee
@macewbee 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@immrlonelyihavenobody4176
@immrlonelyihavenobody4176 4 жыл бұрын
Taylor Evelyn they ruined it
@razkable
@razkable 4 жыл бұрын
kg was a few injuries away from 5-6 titles man..this dude is so underrated
@well.thy.one.
@well.thy.one. 4 жыл бұрын
Asmosis Jones possibly i suppose...he was pretty amazing
@derekdebomb9964
@derekdebomb9964 4 жыл бұрын
What supporting cast...
@drezz8k
@drezz8k 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that the Wolves had Chauncey Billups and didn’t resign him in I think 2002, if they kept him they wouldn’t have needed Cassell
@hassanmohamud3096
@hassanmohamud3096 4 жыл бұрын
What about drafting ray Allen but trading him for marbary
@TheTwinkiefoot
@TheTwinkiefoot 4 жыл бұрын
@@hassanmohamud3096 Allen had the better career but Marbury was an excellent player in his own right. I still think Marbury's biggest issue was being born in an era, with stupid coaching that shamed scoring PGs. He'd be considered one of the best in today's league
@hassanmohamud3096
@hassanmohamud3096 4 жыл бұрын
TheTwinkiefoot marbury only played for the wolves 3 seasons. His ego is what made the ray Allen trade bad. Ray Allen was a great player. Him and kg would’ve been a great duo.
@monteziggler3776
@monteziggler3776 4 жыл бұрын
that was much more consequential than anything they spent time on. to say the team was a great team during KG's MVP year is quite a stretch
@padenplates3631
@padenplates3631 4 жыл бұрын
And from a piston fan, I say thank you 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@matthewschauer9700
@matthewschauer9700 4 жыл бұрын
You could do a whole series on Minnesota wasting talent.
@greta9534
@greta9534 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you're applying this to all leagues because that would be the most accurate
@Jman417
@Jman417 4 жыл бұрын
True. I,m a Vikings fan and I would love that
@Azvee
@Azvee 3 жыл бұрын
At least we got the Saints.
@steezbuscemi
@steezbuscemi 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait till two Minnesota sports teams waist the rookie talent they have this year
@razkable
@razkable 3 жыл бұрын
randy moss joe mauer kg...being a minnesota fan in 2006 with so much talent and no one around these guys was miserable
@wyattcorbin1629
@wyattcorbin1629 4 жыл бұрын
KG was so freaking phenomenal. Easily one of the most underrated superstars ever.
@Greenglower2012
@Greenglower2012 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think that Mchale kind of gifted the Celtics KG just cuz he played for them?
@smilezthepoet778
@smilezthepoet778 4 жыл бұрын
If kg was in San Antonio he would have 5 or more titles and be the best ever put Duncan in Minnesota he would not be the goat
@razkable
@razkable 4 жыл бұрын
he was great in boston but he got hurt sadly in 2009....who knows how many titles he could of had if healthy as a star player on the wolves if they built right and kept stars like billups next to him and still could of been a star on the stacked celtics later on for 4-5 titles if healthy....and people wonder why he left?...he deserved it...eventually you gotta get your ring man....he wasted so much time on just an ok team and then had 1 real year to contend and injuries ruined it ....
@rickwilliams4573
@rickwilliams4573 4 жыл бұрын
Not underrated at all. He is a top 3 PF all time
@ivannparker4073
@ivannparker4073 4 жыл бұрын
@@smilezthepoet778 i disagree. Duncan was a true 4. His skill set translates to any team. I think KG's issue is that he was ahead of his time. He was drafted into a 5 position leaugue. He would have atrophied even more with the spurs. If he wasn't forced to be a true big man we could have seen something phenomenal. Similar to what happened to carmelo. He was forced to play big amd it caused his slashing skills to atrophy. Completely changing the trajectory of his develpement as a dynamic big guard.
@alexvratsanos5227
@alexvratsanos5227 4 жыл бұрын
You should have mentioned that KG returned for his final season.
@ThiccySmalls-pb7ks
@ThiccySmalls-pb7ks 9 ай бұрын
The music really sells the "Collapse" portion of these videos
@connorakers668
@connorakers668 4 жыл бұрын
Do a Collapse on the Sonics after reaching the 1996 finals and how it lead to their move out of Seattle to become the OKC Thunder
@Yeen125
@Yeen125 4 жыл бұрын
Something about Starbucks and Hurricane Katrina.
@AleisterMeowley
@AleisterMeowley 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure, why not, the last two weeks haven’t sucked quite enough
@kitkat6782
@kitkat6782 3 жыл бұрын
But they were good as the Thunder, until they weren’t.
@dallinferguson994
@dallinferguson994 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic idea, why have they still not done this?
@PuchuKt
@PuchuKt Жыл бұрын
​@@kitkat6782 a two for one combo of collapse then
@mayormccheese3786
@mayormccheese3786 Жыл бұрын
Unarguably the best sports channel on KZbin… the quality of their videos is better than most if not all sports documentaries
@sandsoftimerussia
@sandsoftimerussia 11 ай бұрын
Oh hai Mark (Madsen) citing ‘The Room’ was brilliant!
@Nick_Simpson007
@Nick_Simpson007 4 жыл бұрын
When you realize Minnesota could’ve drafted Curry and Derozan but instead took Rubio and Flynn
@samjasek1755
@samjasek1755 4 жыл бұрын
Rubio and Curry could’ve been a good duo. Derozan and Curry not so much. Now Steph and Jrue Holiday that’s a good guard duo. Jrue can’t shoot as good as Klay but Jrue is probably a better a better defender
@davidbrian8336
@davidbrian8336 4 жыл бұрын
Steph didn't want Minnesota. He wanted a bigger market.
@MikeFlamingo
@MikeFlamingo 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine a big 3 of Love, Curry, and DeRozan. That GS dynasty would've never happened.
@nrmproductions1150
@nrmproductions1150 4 жыл бұрын
David Brian 83 How do you know? First of all Golden State wasn’t even a big market back then. And second, he wasn’t a superstar getting drafted 1st unanimously, he was a mid first round pick that would have gone wherever. It just happened to be Golden State
@davidbrian8336
@davidbrian8336 4 жыл бұрын
@@nrmproductions1150 He an his father said so in a documentary
@reinnfrux
@reinnfrux 4 жыл бұрын
I love the wolves but damn it's been hard since KG. I'm glad he got a ring.
@lightningjimmyjoejohnson8499
@lightningjimmyjoejohnson8499 4 жыл бұрын
I reccomend Collapse of the mid-2000s Kings
@SmoothCriminal12
@SmoothCriminal12 4 жыл бұрын
Webber tearing his ACL in 2003 and Stojakovic and Christie choking in game seven the previous year is hwy they are ringless. If the Kings make the WCF in 03, TD himself wouldn't have been able to beat them since they were deep af.
@lightningjimmyjoejohnson8499
@lightningjimmyjoejohnson8499 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Pink true but they could have won a ring in ‘02 if it wasn’t for the refs
@lightningjimmyjoejohnson8499
@lightningjimmyjoejohnson8499 4 жыл бұрын
Harry Engel he was good. Up there with KG, Dirk and TD. After the ACL tear in ‘03 he was never the same player again.
@Doknot-tb9ey
@Doknot-tb9ey 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and the collapse of the Sonics and the Phoenix Suns after Amare left.
@sawyertuide7636
@sawyertuide7636 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. 11 year collapse. From Game 7 of the 2002 Western Finals to the Maloofs selling the team, and Petrie being canned.
@nahumreyna6639
@nahumreyna6639 5 ай бұрын
20 years later, they’re back!!!
@corbinmacklin185
@corbinmacklin185 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos so much, they're so well done. First thing popped in my head was: Troy Hudson was actually the most important player on that team
@duvalcricket63
@duvalcricket63 4 жыл бұрын
As a Jacksonville Jaguar fan, I’d hate to see a collapse from the 2017 season, but at the same time, I’d hate to see it
@barbaraschultz9107
@barbaraschultz9107 4 жыл бұрын
Duval Cricket huh? Lol
@pimpdaddyc7066
@pimpdaddyc7066 4 жыл бұрын
Jaguars fans exist?!
@duvalcricket63
@duvalcricket63 4 жыл бұрын
Pimp Daddy C we’re few and far in between!
@sawyertuide7636
@sawyertuide7636 4 жыл бұрын
I’d wait until you guys go 1-15, 2-14, or 3-13 next year.
@redriverwiffleball9768
@redriverwiffleball9768 4 жыл бұрын
Internet Standard Imagine being A Skins fan lol we going 1-15 and getting Trevor Lawrence
@emersongalli5184
@emersongalli5184 4 жыл бұрын
I love to watch Collapse, It's so fascinating to see teams and dynasties fall apart because of crucial mistakes and bad trades. It's kinda rare to see this here in Brazil with the top tier's soccer clubs, because when they fall they immediately rebound from that shitty season in the next season.
@DroBreez0
@DroBreez0 4 жыл бұрын
I was a DIEHARD KG fan from day one. He single handedly carried that franchise for over a decade. It was heartbreaking as a kid to watch them lose in the playoffs EVERY year.
@terrillclark8370
@terrillclark8370 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the intensity KG brought every game played on both ends of the floor had great footwork in the post and the fact he would talk to himself at the free throw line
@pandoralover21
@pandoralover21 4 жыл бұрын
I love you for this. Minnesota sports in general is a topic that can be picked apart for how sad it all it
@visualsforyou7120
@visualsforyou7120 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Garnett didn't have his black opal.
@monkbop8044
@monkbop8044 4 жыл бұрын
Jaric was married to Adriana Lima. So random.
@JWex-jy7sk
@JWex-jy7sk 4 жыл бұрын
Dude once hit a full court game winning buzzer beater for me in NBA2K9 when he was with the Grizzlies. He officially became my favorite player after that! 🐐
@doccholo905
@doccholo905 4 жыл бұрын
Damn. That is random. Good for him.
@sinicalypse
@sinicalypse 4 жыл бұрын
Was that Jose Lima's chick? #LIMATIME!!!!!
@YankeesFan0620
@YankeesFan0620 4 жыл бұрын
Why do hot chicks always go after the lame athletes?
@kugashira1018
@kugashira1018 4 жыл бұрын
@@YankeesFan0620 Because being a lame athlete doesn't necessarily translate to being a lame romantic partner?
@Teachingcasuals
@Teachingcasuals 4 жыл бұрын
Sprewell “I got a family to feed” *retires one year later
@JWex-jy7sk
@JWex-jy7sk 4 жыл бұрын
“So remember kid, success is just failure that hasn’t happened yet.” And that’s life advice from Latrell Sprewell.
@CasterShellz
@CasterShellz 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair to Sprewell, the Wolves lowballed him. Imagine taking a paycut after the best season in franchise history.
@TheHuskyK9
@TheHuskyK9 4 жыл бұрын
Shonen Dude was in his mid-30s at that time, no team is going to offer him much money at that age and he wasn’t even the #1 guy on the team
@CasterShellz
@CasterShellz 4 жыл бұрын
TheHuskyK9 Again, they are coming off the best season in the history of the franchise in which Cassell/Sprewell/Garnett were the highest scoring trio in the league, the Wolves signed Garnett to a $100M extension, and then they lowballed his co-stars. Sprewell was making over $14M a year, had one of the best seasons of his career in Minnesota and they offered him half of that ($7M a year) the next year. An insulting offer. Sprewell’s reaction was purposely skewed by the media and the league brass similar to Allen Iverson’s “Practice” speech. Context matters.
@RobbieStacks90
@RobbieStacks90 4 жыл бұрын
Spre choked every bit of money he could out of the NBA orange. A wise man
@Harrja
@Harrja 4 жыл бұрын
The facts that I just finished watching uncut gems also.
@maxcaubo5573
@maxcaubo5573 4 жыл бұрын
rip howard bro frfr
@showtimej2582
@showtimej2582 4 жыл бұрын
Dope movie bro
@DaDualityofMan
@DaDualityofMan 4 жыл бұрын
I still need to watch that
@wyatt1648
@wyatt1648 4 жыл бұрын
KG is a surprisingly good actor, even if he’s playing himself.
@BroadswordMedia
@BroadswordMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I feels like forever since there was an episode of collapse. Glad to see this. As an Oakland A's fan I do understand the feeling of seeing somebody who either had a lot of potential or already was great on my favorite team end up winning a championship with another team.
@jessewheinrichs
@jessewheinrichs 4 жыл бұрын
'Stop feeding your family gold bars Sprewell' -Flip Saunders probably
@BrockMak
@BrockMak 4 жыл бұрын
13:01 Sam Cassell also got his 3rd ring via mid-season trade, also as a Celtic.
@claytonbinner
@claytonbinner 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting on a 2004 T-wolves collapse for a while. I’ve lived through the timber-pups and the timber-bulls. I wish the wolves can be good again.
@FLTG13
@FLTG13 4 жыл бұрын
Could be a while in a tough western conference. I believe in Charles Rosas. He’s done great things thus far. The awful defense of D Lo and KAT might be a problem.
@Circenn
@Circenn 4 жыл бұрын
If the Timberwolves could divorce themselves from Glen Taylor I'm sure they'd be great. He doesn't know how to allocate his money for players.
@PurpleWolferine
@PurpleWolferine 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It was so much fun with KG. Hopefully we can return to something at least competitive!
@FLTG13
@FLTG13 4 жыл бұрын
Paul D. If a franchise is bad for numerous years you got to look at the one constant
@claytonbinner
@claytonbinner 4 жыл бұрын
Trey'L Johnson maybe not this year, maybe not next year, maybe not in my next reincarnation. One day tho.
@Abraham16ish
@Abraham16ish 4 жыл бұрын
One suggestion I have would be to do a Collapse episode on the Red Sox after 2007. They had a crazy story going from winning the title, to playoff disappointments, to the 2011 collapse, to finishing in last in 2012, only to bounce back and win that title in 2013. That would be interesting.
@FingeringThings
@FingeringThings 4 жыл бұрын
NBA: Take away 4 first round picks for a contract dispute MLB: Slap on the wrist for cheating
@aroobism
@aroobism 4 жыл бұрын
Because they don’t want people to remember it
@1who4me
@1who4me 4 жыл бұрын
Astros lost draft picks as well
@CSLucasEpic
@CSLucasEpic 4 жыл бұрын
The NFL: A guy cheats to win by messing up the balls. "You gonna pay for that! But not really." Also the NFL: A guy kneels. "OMG! YOU MONSTER! YOU ARE OUT FOREVERRRRR!"
@NoahNTG
@NoahNTG 4 жыл бұрын
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@bblesener
@bblesener 4 жыл бұрын
@@1who4me Yeah and in baseball that's a slap on the wrist with how the draft/minor league system works. They're barely going to feel that hit and it won't affect the team at all for a few years anyway so the cheating core that won a ring can keep competing.
@PhilliesND5
@PhilliesND5 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm so happy this series is back! Please do the 2008 Phillies at some point
@aidanschwartz5266
@aidanschwartz5266 4 жыл бұрын
As a timberwolves fan, I enjoyed this even though I’m essentially just watching all their stupid mistakes that they made.
@swaggyp1320
@swaggyp1320 4 жыл бұрын
we need more basketball videos and more often! this is my favorite channel but I wish we had more mainstream content in football and basketball
@frankwitty7855
@frankwitty7855 4 жыл бұрын
Conspiracy theory: McHale sabotaged the wolves to make KG unhappy so he could trade him to Boston to get them another title or two 🤔
@erics.czernecki7333
@erics.czernecki7333 3 жыл бұрын
That was one hell of a long term play, then.
@shaunalbert7681
@shaunalbert7681 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see the series back, hope to see more involving the 62 win Atlanta Hawks, Joe Gibbs’ Redskins, and potentially the Spurs dynasty should they miss the postseason
@3serio
@3serio 4 жыл бұрын
Who could’ve known the injury gods would curse Johnny Flynn like that.
@juanjuan7349
@juanjuan7349 4 жыл бұрын
I mean they pick two guards before Curry... that just blow my mind. How can anybody be so wrong about anything
@harissahab2743
@harissahab2743 4 жыл бұрын
Steph and Kevin Love would’ve been a nice offensive duo, and if everything would’ve gone the way it did, they could’ve had Steph and KAT together.
@anjr9915
@anjr9915 4 жыл бұрын
It's bad cuz they coulda drafted Curry
@johncarldosdos2786
@johncarldosdos2786 4 жыл бұрын
@@juanjuan7349 curry aint good than the two drafted before him.
@alphabah6094
@alphabah6094 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized the wolves literally traded Kevin Garnett for nothing.None of the players or assets became anything productive to Minessota.Damm
@jamestonbellajo
@jamestonbellajo 4 жыл бұрын
Al Jefferson was a decent player for them. His play just didn’t translate to wins.
@hassanmohamud3096
@hassanmohamud3096 4 жыл бұрын
Mchale wanted kg to go to Boston. Other teams proposed better offers.
@lemon6684
@lemon6684 4 жыл бұрын
They were feeling charitable
@Veyronp87
@Veyronp87 3 жыл бұрын
i still wonder if Mchale did the C's a solid with that move
@aroobism
@aroobism 4 жыл бұрын
Video 20 of asking for a untitled Steven gerrard Or at the very least Man U v Liverpool beef history
@schurkenbub7055
@schurkenbub7055 4 жыл бұрын
I know by untitled you mean Premier League, World Cup and Euro Cup, but the man won the damn UCL in 05. Football is not the best sport to pick for those vids, cause most great Players win a title in their career, because there are so many (f.e. World Cup, Euro Cup, UCL,UEFA CUP, FA Cup, Premier League).
@aroobism
@aroobism 4 жыл бұрын
Schurkenbub then why do Martha she’s won multiple tournaments domestically
@schurkenbub7055
@schurkenbub7055 4 жыл бұрын
@@aroobism I didn't say that was a good either. Maybe it is because when I think of somebody being 'untitled' I think they never won any kind of title. The format just makes more sense for sports played mainly in the US where there is usually 1 title to win, not 3 or more. Just my opinion
@LordBlackman
@LordBlackman 4 жыл бұрын
@@aroobism The difference is Marta's focussed on her with Brazil, Gerrard won everything but the league with Liverpool so it wouldn't work the same way. The only way you can do a football Untitled would be internationally 'cause as Schurkenbub said, most good players win something.
@aroobism
@aroobism 4 жыл бұрын
Schurkenbub if they did it with Martha they can do it with gerrard
@eliasdiwan4079
@eliasdiwan4079 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: in 06 and 07, the wolves played at a 45 win pace with KG on the court. When he was off, they played at an 11 win pace. No star has ever had a worse supporting cast around him than KG
@RioluAuraSphere
@RioluAuraSphere 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron James?
@JBGAMING1
@JBGAMING1 3 жыл бұрын
@@RioluAuraSphere no
@crimsonking8942
@crimsonking8942 Жыл бұрын
Kobe Bryant?
@ianardell4660
@ianardell4660 9 ай бұрын
@@crimsonking8942when he was like 38? Lol
@chaosof99
@chaosof99 4 жыл бұрын
You could do a similar episode on the post-lockout Buffalo Sabres. They were considered a "team of the future", built for the faster, more agile league that the rules changes were supposed to bring about. They went to two conference finals immediately following the lockout, and won their division twice in five years. And now they are on a 9-year playoff drought.
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 2 жыл бұрын
Man I remember watching this series. This was my prime of being into sports and I was rooting so hard for the timber wolves that I was blind to the amazing ability of those they played against.
@TheChosenJuan69
@TheChosenJuan69 4 жыл бұрын
I am a wolves fan and was very happy when my fave player got his MVP title. Also, I am a Supersonics fan and love Ray Allen. Getting them to play together in Boston with Pierce was just unreal at that time and I watched their journey on getting their first title. There shouldn't have been a debate of the best PF if only.
@michaelcassoni7674
@michaelcassoni7674 4 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a video on the Edmonton Oilers and their slow collapse to almost perennial bottom dwellers after appearing in 8 Cup Finals from 82-83 to 89-90 and winning 5 of them.
@lightningjimmyjoejohnson8499
@lightningjimmyjoejohnson8499 4 жыл бұрын
Are you telling me Noah and KG could have played together? BEEF!!!
@quince8355
@quince8355 4 жыл бұрын
Joakim Noah^
@lumiya4596
@lumiya4596 4 жыл бұрын
12:58 that the room reference is cheeky. Loving the content!
@TheHuskyK9
@TheHuskyK9 4 жыл бұрын
The T-Wolves, the place where Power Forwards go to be miserable (Garnett, Love, Jefferson, Towns)
@YankeesFan0620
@YankeesFan0620 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! A new season of Collapse!! Love u guys and your videos!!!
@imPurEGreatness
@imPurEGreatness 4 жыл бұрын
With a name like Trenton Hassle you gotta be a lockdown defender.
@lawrencev7681
@lawrencev7681 4 жыл бұрын
You gotta keep making more of these, it’s awesome
@billdover3165
@billdover3165 Жыл бұрын
The Minnesota Timberwolves our team that was literally handed every opportunity in the world and yet still managed to somehow throw that away and then shoot themselves in the foot and screwed themselves for years to come. That takes true talent.
@jeffreyhabgood91
@jeffreyhabgood91 4 жыл бұрын
love this prequel to uncut gems
@jon_gotteiner7169
@jon_gotteiner7169 4 жыл бұрын
I love the room reference 😂
@Master-Debator
@Master-Debator 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I wasn’t the only one who caught that! Tommy Wiseau would be proud
@ioannistournas8018
@ioannistournas8018 4 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments for this
@MylotheZooLovingScientist
@MylotheZooLovingScientist 4 жыл бұрын
12:57 - The very last place I expected to encounter a "The Room" reference. Well done, Seth.
@godlevel5495
@godlevel5495 4 жыл бұрын
KG wasted so many good years there, would've liked to see him and Pierce hook up earlier in their careers
@ExistentHope
@ExistentHope 4 жыл бұрын
What if ego got in the way?
@johannamegido8465
@johannamegido8465 4 жыл бұрын
the dust overlay fit with the profiles of players so many times I kept thinking you were doing a weird effect where people were just casually getting Thanos dusted.
@cowboytv7903
@cowboytv7903 9 ай бұрын
We may be seeing the new peak of the wolves... #1 seed currently (26-11), #1 defense in the NBA with anthony edwards arguably breaking through into a superstar, with KAT and rudy locking in... this team looking at it right now could have a limitless ceiling, Ant is him and the other two look way more comfortable being lower on the totem pole.
@Chigz10
@Chigz10 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Collapse videos, you guys should do some football (soccer) ones. Portsmouth going from winning the FA Cup in 2008 to going all the way down to League 2 and almost dissolving entirely is an interesting story. Or for a bigger club you could do Arsenal going from the Invincibles one of the best teams in PL history to then not winning a trophy for 10 years after that and not winning the league since.
@kambion
@kambion Жыл бұрын
This hurt my soul
@lambdamax
@lambdamax 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as always. I'm amazed how us(who are analytics nerds, story tellers, and NBA fans) can talk about "average" NBA ballers as not good enough and collapsing in their careers. The worst NBA player in history would go undefeated in any street ball game against us regular folk. When I go 2-18 from the three point line without anyone guarding me I feel like I'm on top of the world.
@aradoubya7721
@aradoubya7721 8 ай бұрын
I wonder what his career would've looked like if he had a competent organization
@Mattitude23
@Mattitude23 4 жыл бұрын
Again...I just wanted to say that I am loving this series
@meharinationsportspodcast2582
@meharinationsportspodcast2582 4 жыл бұрын
I was born in Minnesota and lived there for all 27 years of my life. I grew up during the KG era, the problem was McHale was terrible with signings and money management. This is a major reason why Minnesota failed to retain there best players to help Garnett during the rough seasons when the team failed to pass the first round of the Playoffs until 2004. The two draft classes which hurt us deeply were 1996 and 2009. 2009 was far obvious and Khan had no idea how to scout or do his job. This still hurts to this day. 1996 set everything for the organization's failures. Minnesota drafted Ray Allen and we could have a young core of Allen and KG. But instead they traded him to Milwaukee for Stephon Marbury. Even though they were exciting to watch, Marbury received a reputation of being selfish and it came ahead after McHale gave KG the $126 million deal in 1997.
@JMOP1715
@JMOP1715 4 жыл бұрын
I've dreaded this moment for a long time. Let's do this!
@claytonbinner
@claytonbinner 4 жыл бұрын
My Timberwolves :(
@RyanKlapperich
@RyanKlapperich 4 жыл бұрын
So many names I had happily forgotten. So many bad memories...
@yujirohanma5199
@yujirohanma5199 4 жыл бұрын
"I did not hit her. It's not true, it's bs. I did not hit her. I did nnnaaaooottt .." 12:57
@terryaltherr2481
@terryaltherr2481 4 жыл бұрын
The perfect Gem for this video
@AphasicMute
@AphasicMute 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh hi"
@FoxMacLeod2501
@FoxMacLeod2501 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, thank you. It feels so good to know that someone else out there knows the word is "foundering." Seriously. Thank you for not saying "floundering." Also, sweet episode, as always!
@lowspeak
@lowspeak 4 жыл бұрын
Spreewell: I have a family to feed. A year later: Nah I'm retiring.
@brandonmoore8101
@brandonmoore8101 4 жыл бұрын
Love this channel!! A few ideas. Collapse; Legion of boom Seahawks, back to back W.S. Texas Rangers, Cleveland Cavaliers after title, 90s buffalo bills, sacksonville. Untitled Ewing, Reggie Miller, Griffey, Marty schoheimer.
@joechill5751
@joechill5751 4 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken I think there's a Collapse on the Legion of Boom already
@LordLowe
@LordLowe 5 ай бұрын
Who’s here after the Timberwolves made it to the conference finals after 20 Years
@riveysworld2442
@riveysworld2442 4 жыл бұрын
We Need More Collapse Videos 💪💯
@ps2gamer350
@ps2gamer350 4 жыл бұрын
Welp that’s our Timberwolves
@razkable
@razkable 4 жыл бұрын
i mean technically you guys have 5 titles la claims...they were not the la lakers in the 50's....so...
@722Moo
@722Moo 4 жыл бұрын
But in the 50s they were just tall janitors lmao
@joeball13
@joeball13 4 ай бұрын
When we need that trade as the Celtics fan, for kg, I was hesitant thinking he was in the back nine of his career and at the time Celtics fans were very high on Jefferson and Ryan Gomes. Gomes was Draymond Green, a 6'7 tweener who could play defense rebound had good hands. Jefferson was a classic back to the basket post guy who was a double double every night. I never wanted to get rid of Jefferson, he was a 20 and 10 guy with a lot of upside. I knew once we brought in Allen, that we were going all in. I knew we were only going to have a few years and wished we would have gotten at least two, 2010 I believe was the year that should have taken our second but after that it all fell apart.
@tylerinnes3178
@tylerinnes3178 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Cassell was on two good conference finals teams that missed the playoffs the year after. The bucks were a game away from making the finals in 2001 and should have made it but bad calling cost them the series, the year after they went 41-41
@spencerfurman4705
@spencerfurman4705 4 жыл бұрын
YAY!! Collapse is back!!!! 😀😀😀😀 The Detroit Tigers are gonna pop up at some point, aren’t they?? 😞😞
@joelfredericks8217
@joelfredericks8217 3 ай бұрын
At least they got ANT-man now
@takling1986
@takling1986 4 жыл бұрын
YYYYAAAASSSS! Excellent job as always!
@TheAcer1981
@TheAcer1981 4 жыл бұрын
"The 05-06 wolves were a stinky doudou" Now that's what I call euphemism 😁
@razkable
@razkable 4 жыл бұрын
they were like 6-35 lol
@fakejarias7882
@fakejarias7882 4 жыл бұрын
Grew up a Wolves fan, bandwagoned to Boston with KG as a middle schooler.. one of my best life decisions ☘
@mhskingtanner6310
@mhskingtanner6310 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin Garnett, gets traded and wins a championship with the Celtics. Kevin Love, gets traded then wins a championship with the Cavs. Karl Anthony Towns, when he gets traded wins a championship? We will see.
@theforgettables7793
@theforgettables7793 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! Keep them coming!
@93hlang
@93hlang 4 жыл бұрын
OH HAI MARK
@DARkBLUnt609
@DARkBLUnt609 4 жыл бұрын
love you're videos man keep it up. hoping u can do one on my Orlando Magics the downfall, lol my team sadly
@12packersfan
@12packersfan 4 жыл бұрын
I’d say we need a Patriots collapse video but we all know they’re gonna start another dynasty with “drafted qb x”
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Brady is gone and the pats won’t find another identity for a long time.
@BOS_C.O.
@BOS_C.O. 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I feel it would have to be done a year or 2 after whenever Belichick leaves the Pats or retires to officially close the book on the Dynasty.
@salamipitza
@salamipitza 4 жыл бұрын
the patriots collapsed after 04 it took them 10 years to rise to glory again
@therealjaystone2344
@therealjaystone2344 4 жыл бұрын
salamipitza you mean 07?
@salamipitza
@salamipitza 4 жыл бұрын
@@therealjaystone2344 to championship glory
@drphot6050
@drphot6050 4 жыл бұрын
I would've loved to see that 2004 Wolves vs. Pistons championship series!
@BillyBob-ti2fz
@BillyBob-ti2fz 4 жыл бұрын
Garnet was so underrated it’s crazy if he had a team like the lakers or spurs this man would have 4 or 5 rings.
@miguelabrego1079
@miguelabrego1079 4 жыл бұрын
You're crazy if you think he would have been successful in pops system with the spurs. Garnet is way too selfish of a player
@BillyBob-ti2fz
@BillyBob-ti2fz 4 жыл бұрын
Miguel Abrego he wasn’t selfish with the Celtics
@bark4
@bark4 4 жыл бұрын
Miguel Abrego Are you kidding me? How on earth has KG ever been selfish? You don’t know basketball if you believe that.
@MrRGM10
@MrRGM10 4 жыл бұрын
@@miguelabrego1079 jesus are you on drugs your worst than covid. Been following kg his whole life. just look for his stat assist
@MrRGM10
@MrRGM10 4 жыл бұрын
@Lavoris Frazier yeah. I mean Carmelo anthony is the real definition of selfish
@TheAlfrulz
@TheAlfrulz 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a collapse episode on the 49'ers dynasty of the '80's + '90's.
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