How These Cards RUINED Yugioh!

[@Buzterer]

By the way, a while back, Cyber-stain was unbanned because no one thought it would be to much of a problem, and it got re-banned earlier this year

[@Heavenshellfire]

Yeah that always made me laugh. Naturia Barkion has existed long before Stein became legal again

[@N12015]

Wasn't the last tier 0 deck a dark-type, fusion-oriented one who lacks massive summoning restrictions? Seriously, that card is just asking for matchup fishing.

[@Heavenshellfire]

@@N12015 something about mermaids... and having absolutely insane floating affects... yeah I think I know what you mean

[@commonviewer2488]

​@@N12015You mean Tearlaments? The cards that mill the deck and trigger effects in the grave to summon or search, then repeat the process until they have an oppressive board...

[@ab2aasd]

​@@N12015It was Spright Elf that really broke Stein this time around. It's a dead card in Tear without that revive

[@MercuryFalcon]

Cyber Stein predates magical scientists by like 4 years, it was intentionally withheld in the TCG because the OCG had OTKs with it as far back as 1999.

[@gogovish]

wait, is that why we got blue-eyes ultimate dragon so late?

[@majoukrahe1437]

@@gogovish I can answer this one. There were several factors that went into BEUD showing up late. The biggest, by far, was because YGO had a Corporate Hydra (pun...somewhat intended) at the time. There were four total companies getting cards into American (and international) hands: Konami (made the game) Upper Deck Entertainment (printed the cards) 4Kids (did dub/localization things) and Shueisha (handled Shounen Jump, the magazine YGO was published in...and its corresponding promo cards). Shueisha had control of BEUD...or so the people at UDE claimed. (There are reasons, in hindsight, that this smells like BS.) This meant it had to be released with a manga book. Shounen Jump would come out shortly after YGO hit the States, giving Shueisha its outlet. This was why BEUD was released in North America in both a proper SJ volume and a half-manga. They were really serious about the book thing. This devolved into a hot mess when the Ani-Manga (a book) for the movie came out, there was a card that required BEUD to work, and Shueisha had a book they could put it in...but there was still no BEUD. I have a GDoc with more details if anyone is interested/wants to help me do Wayback research.

[@OmegaVideoGameGod]

In what series?

[@mincinmind9440]

@@OmegaVideoGameGodthe TCG, came out as a non-prize card in the OCG in 2000, came out in the North America TCG in 2006, everywhere else 2008

[@Zanji1234]

there is a video series about the OCG metagame "back then" before we got ygo at all and ... yeah it is WILD xD @@gogovish kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHiym5dmadCsa5I

[@dely9999]

"The Only life point that matters is the last one" Dinomorphias: And we took that to the EXTREME!!!

[@senseker1]

Geoff Fisicaro here. The only reason David won against me (chain burn side into Stein vs Stein side into Burn) was me literally accidentally discarding the wrong card for Graceful Charity, and my dyslexia kicking in b/c I thought I had discarded the right card in my head, but it ended up being the opposite.

[@hatefulgaming1800]

Frankenstein's curse got you.

[@senseker1]

@@hatefulgaming1800 What happened is I discarded Magic Cylinder and set Dimension Wall, but in my head I discarded Dimension Wall and set Magic Cylinder. So when David attacked my facedown Morphing Jar, D-wall did...... nothing. And I lost since he drew 5 cards that won him the game.

[@fennecfoxfanatic]

Wow! Even so, you are a legend!

[@nightmare674]

Only reason? He won fair and square lol Shame on you for blaming it on your dyslexia.

[@mesdecent8051]

Then there is a world in which you could had just won that game, thus avoiding cyyberstein from winning that tournament and meaning it wouldn't had been banned until who knows when? Truly the darkest timeline.

[@majoukrahe1437]

Slight correction: In the Japanese version of YGO (the OCG), Cyber-Stein was released in one of the first sets ever (Booster 6, 1999). This means Magical Scientist was technically meant to be a weaker Cyber-Stein instead of the other way around. Great work with the Frankenstein tie-in, but not accurate to how these two cards were designed off of each other. (Note that I doubt Konami thought too much about either of them.) And...you really had to be there for this, but international players had been clamoring for Cyber-Stein to be released in English ever since Duelist Kingdom was new. It wasn't a secret. People wanted the Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon + Cyber-Stein +Megamorph OTK before Cyber End Dragon...but ow, that Cyber End/Twin Fusion combo hurt to think about. It hurt even more to see in action. That emergency banhammer was well-deserved! Again, excellent work on the English meta research, well-crafted video, but Stein had been in Japan long before Scientist had been printed. Since this channel is about game design, and Konami designs in Japan first, the order probably matters. Also, nice DAD joke at the end. :)

[@DaneeBound]

The fact that OCG people remember the ONE week where the Cyber-Stein/BEUD OTK was legal speaks volumes to how wild the OCG was… and still is.

[@hxppytrigger]

Too bad that BEUD took even longer than Cyberstein to get printed in the Tcg

[@mincinmind9440]

Always crazy to think about how long the OCG had Cyber-Stein and CCV

[@four-en-tee]

Not to mention it got itself banned (again)

[@Gamsterjeff600]

I'm sure he's referring to the US game but that is really strange that he missed it. (It's kinda annoying that youtubers tend to miss key details even if its relevance is somewhat minor) for like history stuff

[@Roboshi2007]

the first major arc of yugioh; "duelist kingdom" is famous for being nonsensical as a card game because the original manga treated the game more like a game of DnD with trading cards. It was the following arc "duel city" that would begin using rules closer to the official ones

[@Yubl10]

@Roboshi2007 That's not entirely correct. The rules of Duelist Kingdom were inspired by another card game called monster collection ( which is a trading card game with D&D like rules) that pretty much no one in the West has ever heard of because it wasn't ever released over here but we did get a localized anime based on a more child friendly version of the game but we never got the card game that went with it just the anime. If you look up the rules of the card game monster collection, the duelist kingdom rules actually make a lot more sense.

[@SonofSethoitae]

​@@Yubl10Do you have a quote from Kaz or something that establishes a connection between Yugioh and Monster Collection? As far as I'm aware he only ever listed MtG as an influence on the card game.

[@SakuraAvalon]

@@SonofSethoitae Yeah, far as I know, Monsters and Wizards(later renamed Duel Monsters by Viz) is basically if you took M:tG and smashed it into D&D. Knowing how big M:tG was/is, I wouldn't be surprised both were inspired, leading to Magic and Wizards feeling similar.

[@thewardoctor3237]

Monster Collection was released in 1997 as far as I can find quickly (and presuming found the right game), and the YGO manga began in 1996. It is possible that it is the other way around and Monster Collection took some (if any) inspiration from Duelist Kingdom that the other way around, or rather more likely entirely unrelated.

[@g-56]

Never expected kohdok to go indepth about something in yugioh

[@Solarkatana252]

I was like ohh a yugioh video wait is that kohdok

[@SaberWolf94]

Yeah, whoever this guy he successfully clickbaited false and exaggerated information in this terrible video.

[@FluffalKyurem]

Both of these cards are still insanely busted in the modern game. Magical Scientist can give you seven materials worth of monsters to make Links, Xyz, and since there's Fusion Tuner monsters under level 6, even Synchro monsters. Cyber-Stein can be combined with Reprodocus and Telekinetic Charging Station to use it's effect endlessly. Performing various FTKs or summoning oppressive Fusion monsters like Naturia Exterio, Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon, The Last Warrior From Another Planet, etc.

[@EpicEverz]

Cimo's progression series is a good showcase of how Magical Scientist would have been even more broken if it was allowed in later formats. They would summon a bunch of fusion monsters and use them as material for powerful XYZ monsters. Most games were won instantly the moment someone drew Scientist. Eventually they had to wall of fame it out, because it was too broken even in a format that allowed other banned cards.

[@DominoCricket]

I gave my buddy one of those 25th anniversary boxes over the weekend he probably hasn't opened a pack in over 15 years and sure enough one of the first things he says is " that damn magical scientist deck"

[@yugi.boomer]

It should have been mentioned; a while ago cyber stein was recently freed to 1, only for it to be abused in Superheavy Samurai. Theyd add it to hand with Gear Gigant X, pendulum summon it, and then summon Naturia Exterio for an infinite non once per turn spell/trap negate. It was banned almost immediately.

[@DeitySkullKid]

"must first be summoned with the correct materials" Got thwarted by "ignoring its summoning conditions" They never learned

[@MegidramonX]

Honestly, always felt 'Ignoring its summoning conditions' should be reserved for special cases that can't be splashed, like Winged Dragon of Ra, which is useless in any deck except one designed specifically around it with only its card-specific support. But yeah, Konami never learns.

[@IC-23]

Ignoring summoning conditions actually has a weaknes "must first be special summoned by" or "Can Only be special summoned by" It's silly but cards with weird summoning conditions are another game mechanic like XYZ Synchro etc as far as "ignores summoning conditions" are concerned and is why Cyberstein can't cheat out something like A-to-Z Dragon Catapult Cannon

[@StigmaKRL]

konami: limits foolish burial also konami: makes fusion spells that functions as multiple foolish burials in one that also rewards you with a body on board

[@pleaserespond3984]

The catapult turtle was very hype in the manga. At that point, and even up until the end of Yu-Gi-Oh, Duel Monsters was treated more like what we would today call an AR game. Every monster, trap, etc. was a physical object within the game, created by some combination of ancient egyptian magic and kaiba corp hologram technology, so the whole "I break your castle's floatation ring" made sense in context. I wish we could get more Yu-Gi-Oh videogames that embrace that side of it, rather than trying to recreate the card game, which is honestly only a faint facsimile of the game Takahashi envisioned.

[@TheoJay615]

I can't wait for the father's day video on D.A.D.

[@juniorthethird08]

Should definitely make this a series for multiple TCGs

[@SaberWolf94]

So he can spread more false and exaggerated information like he did here. Clickbait at its finest.

[@idkjustputagoodname6120]

​@@SaberWolf94Would you mind to tell me what false and exaggerated info were in the video?

[@SaberWolf94]

@@idkjustputagoodname6120 I'll copy paste the comments I already made in case you can't find them: CLICKBAIT Exaggerated video. Haven't even watched the part about Cyber Stein but let tell you this: Magical Scientist FTK was not as consistent as this guy makes it out to be. In fact it was a very gimicky deck as if you failed the FTK you had a useless deck on your hands and if you lost even 1000 LP the deck became useless once again unless you could steal an opponent's monster or revive something with monster reborn. And that's if you even got to play first, if you played second you had even more things to worry about. It did not "ruin" the 2003 format not even close. I'm tired of people not knowing what the hell they're talking about glorifying and exaggerating about old yugioh decks and formats they probably didn't even play or experience. This only leads to missinformation and new players thinking that modern yugioh if fine because "hey classic yugioh was insane too right look at scientist ftk etc" WRONG. It is not that simple. No, it's just clickbait and glorification for views. It could even be something like hyping up an old favorite deck in the title etc. If you're really new and don't know much better there is a good chance you'll be eating this up, or just believing you're somewhat making up for the old formats you missed by absorbing this misinformation. To any new player that's really curious about older formats you have to play and experience them yourself to see the differences.

[@traplover6357]

​​@@SaberWolf94nah, Magical Scientist FTK was a strong deck and format after Hand Control dominated Worlds 2003 and before it was limited to 1 as we eventually got BLS and Emperor to make Chaos the best deck

[@SaberWolf94]

@traplover6357 You talk like there were only 2-3 good decks during that time. That is not the case at all. A deck that could get an auto loss only because it played second is not the best deck of the format. Obviously they eventually hit the scientist because if you did play first you could by the same token get an automatic win if you opened with the right cards. Think of it as fool's mate in chess, only you couldn't do anything about it if you didn't play first. FTK deck word for word, that doesn't mean it was the best deck at the time.

[@AwesomeRaptor21]

The music cutting out at the reveal that Cyber-Stein was in every deck followed by the Psycho theme kicking in goes so hard

[@water2770]

Just as an fyi... Yugioh still has FTKs, they just aren't as prevalent and pretty unreliable. One I know pretty well if Machina Ruinforce FTK, where you Machina Ruinforce is a level 10 machine monster that can come back from the grave by banishing 12 levels worth of machine monsters from your grave... So your deck is mostly giant machines, cards that drain your deck while looking for a particular monster, and a poodle. Where you win by turning those Ruinforces into xyz cannons that deal 2k a pop.

[@RogerVenn]

The fact that Outstanding Dog Mary (cutest card in the game, fight me on that) has found an FTK alliance with giant machines will never cease to be amusing to me. At least it’s no longer feasible in the TCG with both Reasoning and Monster Gate limited.

[@fernandobanda5734]

Why do you say Cyber Stein was designed in response to Magical Scientist or as a joke? The Japanese version existed long before (and also defined the format).

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

About Cyber Stein being designed based off of Magical Scientist, I can only assume it's because he didn't know about their original release dates in the OCG. As for Cyber Stein being a "joke" of sorts, it could very well have been in reference to how players of the game back in that time period believed that life points were a more valuable resource than they actually are: you see, even though Solumn Judgement had been in the game since the second English set release (I don't know when it was first printed in the OCG), people had not been playing the card anywhere near as heavily as they do today, this being that the thought process of requiring you to give up half of your remaining life points to pay made it too risky to afford to play, even though it's more widely accepted nowadays that such a cost is much lighter because there's never a point in the duel that you're unable to pay it's cost successfully. A similar thing can be seen when looking at monsters like Dark Elf and Injection Fairy Lily, both of which are low level monsters with higher attack than your average level 4 or below monster card (though in the case of the latter, her attack points are made high through the use of her effect), and these monsters were meant to be balanced out by requiring you to give up a sizable chunk of life points in exchange; granted, much like with Cyber Stein, Injection Fairy Lily would still see play and even get limited at one point due to effectively being a 3400 attack point beatstick that could bypass floodgates such as Gravity Bind (due to her low level) and Messenger of Peace (due to her low attack points before using her effect). In a similar vein, Cyber Stein was probably given such a ridiculously high life point cost on his effect in an attempt to balance it out, even being as old as it is (at least in the OCG), due to having the potential to cheat out ANY monster in the fusion deck at the time, and back then you could run any number of monsters in your fusion deck as you wanted, as opposed to the 15 card limit it has these days as the extra deck nowadays. TL;DR: Life points were a much bigger deal back then than they are now, and it's arguably in part because of cards like Magical Scientist, Cyber Stein, and Ring of Destruction (also mentioned in this video) that caused this perception on their value to change

[@fernandobanda5734]

@@matthewkuscienko4616 I get that they underestimated life point costs, especially that they weren't once per turn. I still don't think that makes it a "joke" design. It was just a powerful card that slipped through their radar

[@mechasatsu6214]

​@@fernandobanda5734 it was Konami NA meta commentary about the previous year's banning of Magical Scientist since they used Cyber Stein as a promotional card of the year. You wont appreciate the meta joke if you weren't on that time or if you weren't balls deep in the yugioh competitive scene.

[@Luna19912]

Intelligence is knowing Frankenstein was the man. Wisdom is knowing Frankenstein was the monster. P.S. please credit the song at the beginning it sounds awesome

[@rodrigodamian620]

Not a Yu-Gi-Oh player, however I was glued to my seat during the whole video! Kinda reminded me of Rhystic Studies' video essays. I hope you put out more content like this for any card game, I would gladly watch it

[@AndreasNicklasson]

A little dissapointed you didn't cover Cyber-Stein's banning in Duel Links. Konami apparently thought that the Speed Duel format only having 4000 LP made the card safe, but only having 3 monster zones made it ripe for cheating out Ojama King and locking the opponent out of playing the game.

[@supermysterious66]

Duel links is also kinda of funny in how several cards that were never broken in the normal game became killer in a version where you only have 4000 LP, 20 cards in your deck, and 3 zones rather than 5. Ojama King was one of those cards, but another one is Golden Bambo Sword.

[@pablomadrid6962]

Completely ignoring the fact they made a skill that skips LP costs, but yeah it's funny they thought it would ever be okay lmao

[@NeroVingian40]

It’s the same reason why in Magic, you have 20 life points instead of just 10 lol

[@Sillimant_]

@@NeroVingian40 apples and oranges, really

[@Aigis31]

Corrections: Sangan has 1000 attack, not 1100. A "going second" FTK isnt an FTK. If you're going second and win in that turn, that is an OTK, as it is the SECOND turn in the game, not the first. This is why true FTKs are so brutal, as they don't even allow your opponent a chance to play.

[@IC-23]

This is something I think gets lost in translation with other TCGs and Yugioh when peoppe refer to turns in magic thdy usually refer to a period where both players get 1 turn. But turns in YGO are counted after any player takes a turn so games lasting 5 turns in magic is equivalent to 10 in Yugioh and vice versa. People think Yugioh lasting 2-4 turns is fast, I'd like to see their faces when they find out thats translates to 1-2 turns...

[@codycarney2311]

Magical scientist FTK an absolute classic. If you want a look into other historical formats of Yugioh there is a channel called Cimo and he has a playlist called "History Of Yu-Gi-Oh" where he and a co-host, MBT play the different decks that were around the upper echelons of playability during a particular frame of time. Whether a ban list had had occurred or a core set had been released in America. Its great fun! They also have a different series where they play the bad decks called " The History of Jank"

[@nilzero5686]

My personal recommendation is Lost Worlds' History of Japanese TCGs video series, It has a ton of JP research about different games as they split off from Pokemon and MTG in the 90s and into the 2000s.

[@ivolopez-felix5270]

Beautiful vid! Thanks for finding the og recording, what a story. Thank you for the spot light of such an interesting card game

[@jdxanadu872]

I want to mention, because at the end of the video it was said that both cards have stayed on the ban list, Cyber-stein actually only limited on the ban list (I don't know when put at 1 it was at a point when I wasn't playing the game) and went back to being banned on the June 2023 ban list

[@Lucario1121]

Guessing it's cause there weren't any crazy fusion monsters good enough to use the effect until recently.

[@isidoreaerys8745]

The problem was Spright Elf reviving a milled stein from the grave to Summon Naturia Exterio to negate all Your opponents spell and trap effects.

[@slenderman4788]

@@isidoreaerys8745No, Elf was already banned before. It was more the fact that Superheavy can search it and special it for free, then summoning Exterio.

[@slenderman4788]

@@Lucario1121 There were Stein FTKs while the card was legal again for a while, just none were consistent enough to show up much. Was just a matter of time though until something would break it again.

[@Sillimant_]

@@Lucario1121 you're wrong, there absolutely were, and still are. in fact, it was made better with reprodocus and telekinetic charging cell dropping the cost from 5000 to nothing

[@Sleepy0173]

There's also how yata lock is only fully unbanned after almost 20 years because all members of the operations have been nerfed with edits (Chaos Emperor, Yata Garasu, Sangan, Witch). Then there's Imperial Order that got banned for a long time, nerf/edited, and then the edited version got banned too xD Yugioh is no stranger to messing things up pretty bad. Synchro Cat after TeleDAD, or the Dark Strike Fighter, Frog FTK, etc. After enough of those, the exception becomes the norm and we get to where we are now where few long turns are the usual. Great video there.

[@Sillimant_]

frog FTK was so cool, kinda wish there was a retrained mass driver just for frogs

[@LeonHawkeye]

God what an absolute clown fiesta! Sounds like I got out at the perfect time, I quit right when Cyber Stein became popular and accessible right when OTKs/FTKs becoming normal. Used to love the game before OTKs.

[@braindeadporter]

Stein was unbanned in 2019 for a good while before getting banned again earlier this year, so not quite a "firm" place on the banlist

[@ARC--5973]

I absolutely loved this. This is such a dramatic and evocative retelling of a key point of Yu-Gi-Oh's history. Personally, I'd love to see more of these, both for Yu-Gi-Oh and other TCG's. Eldrazi Winter, DAD/TeleDAD, Frog FTK, PePe, etc.

[@peteryanes3413]

Nope he wrong about few things look it up cimo does 100x better job tell us n there was more way I know because I play it blue eyes blue eyes Ultimate Dragon with the cards fairy meteor crush also did it And it wasn't a joke I have friends who work their n jungles this video suck

[@SaberWolf94]

He provided false and exaggerated information on magical scientist ftk (didn't even watch the part on cyber stein) on this clickbait video spreading missinformation gloryfing it and this why newer players get a wrong idea about old school yugioh and tell me "classic yugioh was just as bad as current yugioh look at scientist ftk etc." In truth they don't know what they're talking about. Scientist did not "ruin" yugioh in 2003 not even close.

[@sertianaputra3569]

Nice bait fam

[@SaberWolf94]

@@sertianaputra3569 Play the October 2003 format and learn for yourself, no bait here no matter how much your baby feelings got hurt.

[@ARC--5973]

@@sertianaputra3569 Once again: didn't ask

[@drearydoll6305]

Wow, the first seconds already giving me ptsd. Gem-knight were basically that one thing could murder you out of nowhere at some point because someone though it would be a good idea to make a deck be able to ftk by literally just playing it without the help of silly gimmicks.(even if it dies going second) Just like dark world

[@dreamisover9813]

I heard about the Catapult Turtle OTK before but wasn't exactly sure how it was done. Really entertaining video and amazing production quality!

[@four-en-tee]

0:13 THERE HE IS, THE GOAT

[@absolutelynot615]

To be fair, Frankenstein's monster was made by Frankenstein and is humanoid enough to need a last name, which typically would be the father's.

[@josephxp96]

And then they Unbanned Cyber-Stein in the TCG and had to ban him again

[@theentity5201]

Brain research lab/DNA surgery effectively fed cyber stein meth and had him going at 200% you can cheese out your whole fusion deck for nothing

[@truthteller7283]

I always find it funny how Yugi boomers like to reminisce older Yu-Gi-Oh like it was a much more fair and even game back then where you actually duel like it is in the anime and win or loose you get a decent amount of turns each duel. And it was “the Syncros that were the downfall”. But that it only if you play REALLY CASUAL Yu-Gi-Oh. Where you either just play the video games or don’t really care to a ridiculous extent on what’s in your deck. You’re just playing for some card fighting funsies. The major tournament games really show just how broken this game always has been.

[@alexpage10]

What yugiboomers remember or think they remember as old Yu-Gi-Oh is playground Yugi or extremely casual at best. The game has always been extremely broken both TCG and OCG.

[@truthteller7283]

@@alexpage10 exactly! Since we can’t buy our own cards like the way we can now we literally had to play with the cards we were able to get. Which even then, I’m pretty sure it was just Duelist Kingdom on Crack.

[@blastodermis]

I have the feeling that if Ygo goes on for another 100 years, it will cycle back to beatdown, because any single effect monster and spell card will lead to a FTK.

[@s.a.m7297]

Toss a coin: if the results is head 3 times; you win the duel, if the results is tails 3 times; your opponent win the duel. otherwise take 7900 damage. You can only play "fuck this coin shit" only once per duel

[@characookie241]

​​@@s.a.m7297there are cards that can manipulate coin tosses, people would absolutely abuse that card lol

[@nightmare674]

@@s.a.m7297 Funny thing is, a card like that wouldn't be used at all lol

[@s.a.m7297]

someone will definitely use it for meme deck, not for competitive

[@Zanji1234]

isn't it already so!?

[@JB-fp3fb]

Excellent video. The pace is good AND it has such detailed information. I think this definitely your best editting.

[@wfjhDUI]

14:08 What animation is this from? It doesn't seem to be anything listed at 31:38. Edit: It's 'The Thief and the Cobbler'

[@melbiamil5144]

The real prize of that tournament was being immortalized as the guy that singlehandedly banned cyber-stein

[@abuelovinagres4411]

Power creep at its top. I always thought the beginning of YGO's downfall was with Synchro, but I didn't know much about competetitive enviroment back then. Nice Ripstick Studies style video, btw.

[@Chrisezo]

I liked Yugioh when I was a kid because of the anime and the gameboy games, but as I grew up and then came out the GX era, the game started becoming too complicated because of plays such as this one, and then not being able to use cards you owned because of bans and stuff, made me not want to get into the game specially if I wanted to play competitively, and then after 5Ds with the whole synchro scene I never played Yugioh again, but I have seen friends play a few of the mobile and PC games, and I still see the crazy shenanigans that can still happen between experienced players, and I rather just play other more simple card games, where I can actually understand and play the game and enjoy myself.

[@Sillimant_]

>gx >complicated kek

[@LLawliet2]

@@Sillimant_using addition to add stars? Lmao. Has YGO gone too far?

[@Bunni89]

Huh, I always just liked Magical Scientist cos I liked following the card lore about his friendship/rivalry with Kozaky and that mysterious third scientist who still hasn't got their own card to this day. Genuinely had no clue he was ever like.. actually relevant to anything important ever. Pleasantly surprised to learn all this, wow!

[@JohndemenYT]

Winning a match in 3 turns that sounds like modern yugioh to me. XD

[@Lybra1022]

I'll never forget the look on my friend's face this one time at Locals, when he attempted the Cyber End Dragon OTK and attacked into my set Ancient Lamp, redirecting the attack to his own Stein.

[@Masterho310]

This is why yugioh is the definition of power creep. Konami loved making game imploding powerful cards and then banning them weeks later screwing over all the competitive players who paid sometimes hundreds to get 3 copies for their tournament decks.

[@MightySuki]

Why Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon was not target for Stain? It was stronger then Oz

[@CaptainMarvel4Ever]

It was not released in the TCG for a loooong time. Funny since Shining Dragon was released before it and requires Ultimate in order to summon it.

[@Fencer_Nowa]

Release timings made it so oz existed longer at the same time as stien as the best target

[@AuraSniper]

Could the waybackmachine link to the SJC coverage be shared?

[@spicyboi544]

Good job! you made such an interesting video that the comment section didn't get annoying and complain with an "uhm actually" cause you said the yugioh show was a cartoon and not an anime one time :0

[@John_1-1_in_Japanese]

26:10 Funny thing is, I don't think the Limiter Removal was even necessary lol, that shit was just win more

[@russelshacklefort5023]

Audio editing during the Secret Base zoomout homage. I saw this when it dropped so I'm assuming KZbin bots claimed it.

[@NightmanEX]

I used to use the sangan and cyberstein combo to cheese the GBA game back in the day. I had no idea it was such a big deal in the physical meta.

[@VestedUTuber]

3 turns back then: HUGE DEAL 3 turns now: Wait, it took that long?

[@schnitzler001]

Awesome video. Would love to see it become a format.

[@guidofalconi1178]

I knew the Monster was well spoken, I had forgotten how verbose he was though. I don’t think Scientist or Stein are too powerful now. I haven’t checked the list but if they are still forbidden I would be surprised. Granted, there’s a lot of great fusions that have come out, but I don’t think you could build something with Scientist that would be worth your normal summon, no matter how many times you could use it’s effect. Instant Fusion does the job well enough.

[@shawnjavery]

So the thing is with scientist its not once per turn so you can just like pay 4k life points then make 2 xyz monsters with it and that's kinda good. Stein got banned again because what you could summon off of it was just too good.

[@r3zaful]

Tearalaments can send or randomly milling it from the deck and revive it with elf, tearalaments md at its peak was the strongest variant of tearalaments up to date.

[@HoangNguyen-ej4wb]

​@@r3zaful have you seen the ocg and tcg lists at their peak? While tearlaments in ladders could build a better board, the deck is sackier with all fusion names at 2. Not to mention that you can only reliably mill Cyber-Stein with ishizu cards which felt like asking your opponent to play on your turn during Tear 0 in most cases.

[@Sillimant_]

stein was unbanned for a period and quickly rebanned for being too powerful. imagine what damage magical scientist could do. neither of them will ever be unbanned again

[@four-en-tee]

the audio in this is kinda all over the place

[@rgwyatt]

Love the spliced footage from Thief and the Cobbler

[@Magnet977]

One thing I do know from playing a fellow TCG game in Magic: The Gathering is that sometimes even if you don't intend for them to be good, cards that let you search your deck for something can often be insane. I'd argue its the holy grail effect of TCGs.

[@emperorsolaris7]

I'm gonna give some MD players PTSD real quick. Cyber Stein + Reprodocus + that one psychic equip card

[@AnimeEnergy]

Nice video of the editing was definitely good I liked the portion where the turtle had its art come out of the card but you used a wider version of the art so we couldn't see got cropped off

[@thunderbirds9001]

Great video overall, really liked the dive into old school FTKs. One Problem, that tournament finals wasn't an ftk simply due to the fact it wasn't the first turn.

[@Yous0147]

18:08 That was amazing, literal chills from the dialog alone. Mary Shelley really was an amazing author.

[@EclipseHighroller]

At 14:10, was that the Thief and the Cobbler? I love that movie!

[@rafboum8014]

SONG AT 7:07 IS PORKI'S THEME IM DONE SEARCHING WOO

[@bchavez149]

This is legit my favorite deck of all time, I remember pulling this out against my friends Dark world deck last year, it's still hilarious to this day to blast someone to death with the hippie man and his pet turtle.

[@Pighway]

Anyone notice a change in the audio at 13:10?

[@LeonHawkeye]

Cyber-Stein was actually THE reason I quit Yugioh, after I noticed the trend of First Turn Kills/One Turn Kills I couldn't stand the game. All the back and forth strategy and interaction was gone. I had previously played since the Anime came out in the USA and even went to every new set release drafts as well as regional tournaments every year, fun times.

[@Atomic_Aegis45]

In modern yugioh Konami would have banned the extra deck monsters and not magical scientist. You know the card causing the problem. We saw it Halqifibrax.

[@EpicEverz]

I always thought Cyberstein came out first. I remember playing a Yugioh game on the GBA, and Kaiba would always cheat out his Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon on the first turn with Cyberstein. I don't think Magical Scientist was in that game, so I always assumed it was made later.

[@Sillimant_]

it did, in japan. cyber-stein was released in 1996

[@ItsPForPea]

Tiny correction: in Yu-Gi-Oh! Community, turn count increases on both players' turns, that means, if you go second, you'll be playing on a second turn, while your opponent will be playing on the third turn. So technically, in Yu-Gi-Oh!'s terms, the duels lasted 5 turns across 2 games. He, "OTK"'d the opponent, not FTK, because the term FTK is only used for when you win on your first turn going first, while if you win on your first turn going second, it's called OTK. The distinction is made because FTK is considerably much harder to pull off, while OTK practically can be done by every modern decks if your opponent bricks on their first turn. Still, amazing video nonetheless!😊

[@respectblindfolds7411]

Thanks for the birthday present, Kohdok

[@mystikx2205]

Fun fact: Catapult Turtle has since been errata'd to being once per turn over a decade ago.

[@Clear1]

yeah, it's not like there is a time when Stein got unbanned, only to found new cards that took advantage of its text, and ran with it, and summon new boss monsters that works as free extenders, or set up an unbeatable board. (Read Road Warrior, Vylon Cube, Repodocus and Telekinetic Charging Cell)

[@RaginBajan]

Don't forget Megamorph. You can get a 9000 atk Blue eyes ultimate dragon out easily

[@xolotltolox7626]

Blue eyes ultimate and stein were never legal at the same time in the TCG. Ultimate took until 2013 to come out.

[@justinbowman1342]

​@xolotltolox7626 I'm pretty sure I had a Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon in 2006 thanks too a Shonen Jump magazine back in the day.

[@terydtl4427]

ok dose anyone know the music thats used at 3:19?

[@zechlape5826]

this was a great video, I love yugioh history. I always wondered why fusions had must first be fusion summoned on them.

[@annaskasia]

Finally a Yugioh video! Been watching you since I was 10 btw! Glad you’re still out here giving us awesome content!

[@chaos_magician6689]

Never played during this time, but this is exactly why you need to be careful with your cards and effects in a game

[@codycarney2311]

DAD is finally home with that milk and boy howdy hes dadlier than ever.

[@phorchybug3286]

I guess the only way to balance an effect like this would be something like "shuffle this card you control and your entire hand into the deck, then you summon 1 free fusion but it's effects are negated."

[@NeroVingian40]

It needs something more than that, something like “shuffle all other cards in your hand, graveyard and side of the field” for it to be balanced, but even then, even just having a consistent way to shuffle everything into the deck (aka resetting your board), is potentially abusable. I’m afraid it is just too powerful. There is just no world where both of these cards can be balanced.

[@NexusVFD]

The cardshop I used to frequent in High School (circa 2008) was named Comic Odyssey.

[@dawntainedevidence2497]

The first couple minutes I thought the story telling was cringey but the longer I watched this video the more into the story telling I got. Amazing video & amazing story telling & I haven't even played Yugioh since mid-2000's. I can't wait to watch more videos like this

[@KidCloud602]

What a great video!!, The details and animation you did for the duel is very much appreciated!

[@LLawliet2]

22:00 to 24:00 or, what is with the background music being so loud with the beeping?

[@kylespevak6781]

You skipped Cyber Stein + Blue Eyes Ultimate - megamorph

[@julonikkodinglasan7056]

I remembered using cyber stein in my chaos deck. I would use cyber stein to summon Blue-Eyes Ultimate then use poly to turn it into dragon master knight with light hex sealed or king of the swamp. then use dragon's mirror to summon a secon dragon master knight use cyber stein as crush card fodder then summon BLS or Chaos emperor

[@dragonmaster613]

And they'll continue to be dangerous every time a new Fusion is brewed

[@zhaoyun255]

Then again, Yugioh combo player DESERVED the punishment of Mystic Mine for 3 YEARS. Thank you, Mystic Mine. I won by absolutely reading NOTHING!!!

[@Fencer_Nowa]

Mine ironically enough was used by combo players in games 2&3 as a way to win the round thru stalling

[@addisonjones2712]

these are undeniably some of the biggest design mistakes in the games history (though there are several worse ones.) however I don't think it can be argued that these two ruined the game at least not in the long term they ruined some formats before they were banned but the game is still going and still quite good.

[@LeonHawkeye]

Indeed. Cyber-Stein single handedly killed my local game store Yugioh tournaments, we had a solid 20-40 people going every weekend for several years then it quickly shrank to less than 10 when OTKs began to rear their ugly heads.

[@wissen5410]

I would love a Video on the histroy of netrunner / android netrunner

[@psyxypher3881]

>Catapult Turtle can launch itself. I learned something new today.

[@felhight1925]

I started playing YGO when my dad got some LOB, only like a week after it came out. I played only with friends and kids from school until early '05, and just a bit after the first ever ban list when I discovered YGO tournaments existed. I proceeded to fall head first into the competitive scene making great friends along the way. And then, February '08 came, and with it the Phantom Darkness. I had never experienced a tier 0 format in my life, and to play DAD, you needed 3 copies. At the time of release DAD was a $300 card no matter where you looked, which continued for a few months. I also went to my first and last SJC in Columbus. As a high schooler with no job obviously, I could not afford to play even 1 copy of DAD. Instead I opted for Dark Phoenix or what ever the trash version of Sacred Phoenix of Nyphthys was. This did not go over so well. My first round was against a Rule Shark, who called the judge on me with 0 remorse that I was a kid, and he was clearly an adult. This was a clear accident and the judge gave me a game loss without trying to hear my side of it. Then I proceeded to get my shit kicked in by DAD, not just that game but, every single game after, until the 3rd or 4th round and I dropped. This marked the downfall of YGO for me, I sold ALL of my cards after trying to play through Glads. I have looked at it occasionally over the years and have never regretted my decision. The hyper toxic, elitist player base remains to this day, as well as a need to drop, while not upwards of $1000, a still incomprehensively large amount of money. To summarize, I learned three things when quitting YGO. 1. What a Tier 0 format is. 2. What a Rule Shark is. 3. What Power Creep is. ...and yes my pic is GK Assailant because, that was the first semi-meta deck I ever played.

[@TheDan14]

nobody in my area was playing otk decks during this era, it was the chaos control decks that ruined it for me personally

[@JohannaA.5013]

I love when there is a card that NOBODY CARES about. And then... BADABOOM.

[@RenoReborn]

8:30 Mate, the only time you should be worrying about your LP is when you're under 1000, until then it's currency I can spend on certain riskier actions

[@sasuke_louis3832]

this video is perfect, please i need more. maybe yata garasu next?

[@ToaArcan]

“I have love in me the likes of which you can scarcely imagine and rage the likes of which you would not believe. If I cannot satisfy the one, I will indulge the other.”

[@hill2750]

The Way Back Machine is a gift. May god have mercy on us if Microsoft Buys it.

[@genericname3516]

Honestly it was very funny when they unbanned Cyber-Stein a couple of years back, then had to ban it again. I don't know what they were thinking...

[@Acidonia150reborn]

I mean they was a 2 card combo then allowing you get to free lp costless summons off its effect it was just hard to get all the cards to do at one time. Just Turn Stein into a Psychic type and Equip Telekineteic Charging Cell to it.

[@DigiTism]

5:21 Spells and Traps have tons of “once per turns”. I know you mean though, but it’s worded oddly.

[@NiallByrne]

Still kinda wish they would retrain cyberstein as a big boss fusion monter. It was such a good design

[@jamesmast4221]

your dedication bringing a major tournament match back from obscurity is incredible, though not as incredible as how short the match itself was. the rabbit hole of konami accidentally breaking their game is crazy, you had to glaze over yata lock and forshadow DAD and frogs. Like as far as FTKs we also had exodia spam which was a nightmare in the early days along with stuff like empty jar so this is just one flavor of hell yugioh has inflicted on its players. Even with the train of broken fusion they would go on to try again with instant fusion, a card you kinda hint at, Hard once per turn pay 1k for a fusion monster but it had to be level 5 or lower, cannot attack and dies at end phase but by then the range of fusion monsters grew so you had alot of big targets to bring out that either had amazing disruption or could provide material for something else to the point that instant fusion is limited in both paper formats and banned in master duel. It seems they finally managed to boil it down to the point that it's properly balanced with ready fusion which is hard once per turn, pay 1k for a level 6 or lower fusion monster with all the same restrictions as instant fusion on top of it needing to be a non effect monster. and this is without getting into verte...