How to add a spindle to a Onefinity cnc

[@DD-rb6hi]

Wow, 11 months has made a big change on the price of the eclectic cable. From $2.50 l.f. to $4.61 l.f. Really good video explaining things for people like us wanting to put a spindle of our Onefinity machines. I cant wait to get mine shipped to me this coming month.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Wow I didn’t look at any pricing since this video, but sounds like nothing has escaped inflation…. Price increase aside, I found the cable to be really well made and has worked very well for me. Thanks for checking it out, and see you again soon!

[@scottmorris4914]

I clicked on the thumbs up as soon a you said “their POS connector”, LOL. I was going to Like it, but that prompted me to do it right then.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Haha, yeah the standard connectors really is crappy

[@DaveGatton]

That twelve year old Chinese girl that put that thing together said you don't need no stinkin' ground wire. 😃 Great video JR. Lots of good info for sure. 👍🏻

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Thanks Dave, and Yeah, seems there are a bunch of ungrounded spindles in the wild!

[@educetheme4175]

Love your channel, great communication, I can feel your experience nourish me with each video, thank you for taking the time to make these videos so comprehensive.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hi Educe, thanks so much, great to hear that your enjoying the channel!

[@educetheme4175]

@@TradeSkillersAnonymous Saw your larger spindle video and have now decided to get a OF and use your spindle, I am buying this from Europe and so must get the configuration just right as the shipping is over $650. What would you order today for a Journey man in terms of accessories and tools for a beginner? Thanks again for all your wonderful videos.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

@@educetheme4175 Hi Educe, In addition to the machine, controller (black computer box not the game controller), and monitor I would add the touch probe, dust shoe and the Joypad, which looks like an x Box control that you can use to manipulate the machine with. You might want to consider joining the Facebook group called "Onefinity CNC Users group (official). There are about 15K members there showing their work, sharing ideas and general discussion on bits, accessories etc. If I can help, let me know!

[@bradleyjohnson452]

Just starting to setup my new Journeyman. I will be adding a spindle eventually. Terrific video

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

It’s a great machine, you’re going to love it!

[@glenellynrunner]

Thanks JR. I'm going to run the baby router to failure before tackling a VFD/spindle configuration, but your video helps a lot.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hi David, I found that the makita does a fine job for everything I’ve asked it to do, the spindle was a bit of an impulse buy while waiting for my machine back in 2020. Truly only put it on because I had it, there wasn’t any true need.

[@danmcknight963]

Thanks for the video. I have thought of one day upgrading to the spindle. I don't understand why wiring them is so difficult. Guess I need to learn more.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hi Dan, it isn’t hard, but the sense of needing to get it right goes up when working with 1) higher voltage and 2) very small soldered connections. Thanks for coming by and commenting. If you’d care to, consider subscribing, thanks

[@danmcknight963]

@@TradeSkillersAnonymous already subscribed watched a few live shows as well. I also follow Dave and Mark.

[@scottmorris4914]

What are you thoughts on have one cable for the spindle/routers, and an adapter cable at the end where you have one adapter for the router and one for the spindle?

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

If you find that you’re going to switch between spindle/router frequently that might be worth looking at.

[@BigHWorks]

Thanks JR, good insights here on a big topic. I have my spindle on order and impatiently waiting.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Did you get the German spindle?

[@BigHWorks]

@@TradeSkillersAnonymous Yes, I bit that bullet.

[@mikes1330]

I bought the VFD cable from automationdirect, but did not buy the continuous motion cable (out of stock, btw). Wish I had, but I didn't. I guess I'll run with what I have until I have a problem...

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

I bought a spool of what I thought was the right stuff, oops! Just kept it and reordered the flexing cable. Will use for servos and stuff

[@mikes1330]

@@TradeSkillersAnonymous unfortunately they are out of stock for another month!!

[@surfingnoid]

Thanks, you presented a very practical approach and a great explanation. I'm starting with the Makita mainly to keep startup cost and complexity down. My plan is an air-cooled spindle upgrade and moving the Makita to an actual handheld (or perhaps cheap under-table mounted) router I can use on larger projects or with regular hardware store bits. My only question is, you say it's a 220v spindle, but are you supplying 220 or 110 going to the VFD from the wall? Also, how's the amperage draw on that VFD? I only have 15A circuit.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hey there, thanks for watching and your comment. My vfd is a 220v input, and draws an anticipated max of about 7 to 8 amps. 120v would draw roughly double that.

[@danelswick9886]

Just installed. Wish I had seen this earlier. Are you doing a video on the VFD programming? After hours of tweaking, it still will not communicate with the 1F. Don’t know if it is the VFD, Buildbotics, or the breakout board. Will just run manual for now. Almost as frustrating as the 1F itself.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hi Dan, I might very well do a VFD programming walk through, BUT, I pumped the brakes on that initially out of concern for the high voltage and chance for error. I won't ask you to put your email in the public area here, but if you go to my website, tradeskillersanonymous.com and use the contact us feature, I can send you the document I found online that guided me through my programming. Consider subscribing too while you're here, that way you'll hopefully see future videos as I release them.

[@blainetrain2299]

So glad I found you JR. You have helped my first days with my OneFinity FAR easier. I also got overly excited waiting for mine and went all in on the all the things and ended up with a 2.2Kw spindle. So my ?? is: Do you control your spindle via the VHD or via the OneFinity control box? I am assuming we have to do it via the VHD but wanna make sure I havent missed something as there are more connectors on the back of the OneFinity control box. Thanks!!

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hey Blaine, isn’t it funny how your mind goes to work waaayyy in advance of sending your first job!?

[@crazyhank99]

I'm planning to cut a fair amount of aluminum so I went for the 2.2kW water cooled spindle. Should have it running in a week or so. Definitely agree with your comment about the relative difficulty of wiring it vs. programming the VFD. I watched quite a few videos before really understanding how the programming works.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hey Joel, thanks for coming by and your comment. For sure to work on aluminum I’d have gone water cooled to get lower rpm capability. I’ve got a great pdf that someone made that goes over each setting in detail. If you’d like it, email me at [e-mail] and I’ll send it to you. It isn’t my work, can’t remember where I found it, but I found it really helpful. Also, consider subscribing if you haven’t. Thanks, talk soon

[@featheredserpent7043]

Any issues with the new cable connector only being rated for 5A? Vs running possible 10A Thanks for the vid

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hi there, the 2,3 and 4 pin connectors are rated for 10a, the larger pin count connectors are rated for less, but I used a 4 pin. Copying specs below: Description Specifications for 2pin, 3pin, 4pin: Cable specification: 1.0m㎡-1.5m㎡/18-16 AWG Diameter range: Φ3mm～Φ7mm Contact diameter × number: Φ1.5x2 / Φ1.5x3 / Φ1.5x4 Rated Current (A): 10A Operating voltage (AC.V.rms): 500V Contact resistance

[@scottmorris4914]

Where did you order the spindle?

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

I ordered (both) from Amazon. I am changing the 65 mm to an 80 MM spindle today in fact. I'm going to cover that process in a video that should be up in the next day or two, consider subscribing if you haven't yet. I'll show both why, and how.

[@dennismacwilliams196]

How much did the spindle coust ya I didn't see a link for it. Thank's

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hey there, I paid 239 plus tax for the 1.5kW and VFD on amazon. At the time of the video, it was not available, but looks to be in stock now. Link here: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010N3HFGU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@CustomCraftedDesigns]

I added a spindle and the touch plate was not working any longer something with the way it was grounded. Did you run into this problem? Thanks

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hi there MG, I didn't have any issues with the touch plate. You definitely want to make sure that your spindle is grounded internally, meaning that while most spindles have 4 terminals, the 4th contact at the spindle (which should go to the spindle case) connector doesn't actually go to anything inside the spindle, which is dangerous, and relates to lack of consumer protection on some products out of China (loose regulations on electrical safety there). With my spindles 4th terminal grounded, I can use the touch plate without grounding the touch plate, because my spindle is grounded, and because it's physically connected to my machine through metal contact, the machine is also grounded, so that typical magnet end is not needing to be connected because the ground is already established. An easy way to tell, is disconnecting any and all power to the spindle, VFD and machine (for safety) and after disconnecting the power, remove the top plate cover of the spindle, and you should see three small wires that come out of the back side of the "aviation connector", and the 4th terminal will either have a ground lead going to the spindle case, or the 4th lead will not be connected to anything. If it is not connected to anything, this is probably your issue. Be very careful while working around this kind of equipment, making sure you're never working on "live" or powered systems. May be best co consult with an electrician if you're not somewhat familiar with these concepts.

[@CustomCraftedDesigns]

@@TradeSkillersAnonymous ok thanks for the info ill give it a shot, I actually switched back to the Mikita for now.

[@bzwax21]

Which spindle is it?

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hyuang type, 220v, 1.5kW air cooled

[@jasonstewart5942]

😂😂😂😂 The corvette guy comment.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Lol! Wondered who would catch that. = )

[@jasonstewart5942]

Good job with the cable man. 👍

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

@@jasonstewart5942 thanks brother

[@BigHWorks]

Jason, I loved that too!!

[@jasonstewart5942]

@@BigHWorks Not saying he doesn't know his stuff and does great work which I've told him. He's just an arrogant a-hole. Enjoys posting clips of others videos or pictures pointing out how everything is wrong and his way is the ONLY way to do it.

[@scottmorris4914]

Power tools without a ground, are supposed to be “double insulated”. With the DI, they don’t require a ground.

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Sounds like you know what you're talking about in terms of electricity, probably more so than me. I just know that if there's a ground available, I'm going to use it. May not make sense or be rational or causing extra work, but I don't see any harm in making sure that there's an easier path to ground than lets say, me. = )

[@scottmorris4914]

Suggestion

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Hi Scott, what’s your suggestion?

[@scottmorris4914]

@@TradeSkillersAnonymous Sorry, that was a mistake, and the system would not let me delete the message.

[@vittoriosilva1454]

Bifurcated terminals ...

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

Thanks for watching!

[@vittoriosilva1454]

@@TradeSkillersAnonymous Oh I was wrong ,,, cup terminals ..

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

@@vittoriosilva1454 yes terminals are half cups.

[@katrinamcguire5739]

😞 ᴘʀᴏᴍᴏsᴍ

[@TradeSkillersAnonymous]

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