to clarify: I'm NOT encouraging the use of fallacies, or suggesting that truth doesn't matter, I just wanted to make a video on tactics that, like it or not, occur all the time in arguments and debate. Enjoy, and if you have your own favorite fallacy or rhetorical trick that I didn't cover, comment and tell me what it is!
@pamallama7 жыл бұрын
Your video reminds me of Aristotle's "Rhetoric." It seems like he promotes using dirty tactics, but it's probably more a work that teaches readers self-defense against strategies like these.
@calebbenson72937 жыл бұрын
Coffee Break Q
@n0lain7 жыл бұрын
I'm personally partial to the genetic fallacy
@darexinfinity7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the ammo Coffee Break, i'm gonna use this to become a politician.
@trollpatrol11777 жыл бұрын
Personally, I couldn't talk to anyone that was like this. There's a term that I dub people (politicians mostly) like this with: Jackass.
@leeroybrown28886 жыл бұрын
1: Trick them into saying yes. 2: Point out they agreed. 3: Keep on doing that.
@smilessantana20495 жыл бұрын
Perfect formula to piss of narcisists as well😀
@i1l4u3_jk45 жыл бұрын
This shit hella annoying when you’re the one who got tricked
@shrek79645 жыл бұрын
Zln Potata ans then u keep saying wait stop but they keep I interrupting
@i1l4u3_jk45 жыл бұрын
Shrek for real
@vaishnavikarlekar63365 жыл бұрын
Yes true
@RootyTootTootin5 жыл бұрын
You: “Wrongpersonsayswhat” Them: “What?” Done
@丅丅丅-b4c5 жыл бұрын
Epic
@pathfinder69975 жыл бұрын
what
@boozados4 жыл бұрын
Little does that person know that they said the word themselves :U
@SovereignStatesman4 жыл бұрын
Or "I beg your pardon?" "Okay, I forgive you." Then you look like you're right, AND forgiving.
@RM999ll4 жыл бұрын
What is 5th grade commentary section 🤷
@amberliebrown61726 жыл бұрын
The other way is to be a parent.
@jaggerjdm97876 жыл бұрын
*BECAUSE I SAID SO*
@RummanNaser6 жыл бұрын
Or a teacher
@probablymelgibson23446 жыл бұрын
Or be an women
@Viertelhund6 жыл бұрын
That's kind of number 5, isn't it?
@red43rumbl376 жыл бұрын
Be older and say that the opposing side has no respect on older people and that we know more because we've lived more
@tarabinsurzo5 жыл бұрын
Followed the steps, i won the argument and arrested a cop today
@madarauchiha85084 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂 😂
@walkover-cc1dm4 жыл бұрын
i- 😂
@uwu-zz3ne4 жыл бұрын
Police: you’re under arrest Me an intellectual: no u Police: ah u got me there
@ChurchilOnyango4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@arthurmorgan34464 жыл бұрын
This comment gave me a small giggle lmao
@TheAviationistKhizr5 жыл бұрын
step 1: say their breathe stinks Step 2: sit back and relax as they stumble and stutter trying to figure out what to do.
@SETHthegodofchaos5 жыл бұрын
@@yaboiplank6764 its funny because he didnt respond xd
@doblemm455 жыл бұрын
@@yaboiplank6764 funny
@lizanya64334 жыл бұрын
Step 2: make sure your breath doesn’t
@pinkshark44784 жыл бұрын
Although you can't do this on a call...
@imcool29314 жыл бұрын
...
@andrasfogarasi50146 жыл бұрын
*Step 1: Ignore your opponent's arguments.*
@cosmiccaptain79596 жыл бұрын
András Fogarasi Premise 1: There's cheese. Premise 2: Cheese has holes. Premise 3: With more cheese, there's more holes. Premise 4: More holes means less Cheese. Premise 5: More cheese = less cheese. Premise 6: Cheese is basically a solid version of milk. Premise 7: So, using the same logic, more milk = less milk. Premise 8: Milk comes from cows. Premise 9: Using the same logic, more cows = less cows. Conclusion: Cows make no sense.
@jort93z6 жыл бұрын
if you want to win EVERY argument, thats what you gotta do. You can't be right about everything there is.
@zone81426 жыл бұрын
Premise 4 taught me more than I could understand in the video :(
@riku97456 жыл бұрын
All SJW's ever
@ticktockbam6 жыл бұрын
Every flathead ever.
@lateuponarrival26975 жыл бұрын
0:38 trump is rapping over the background beat
@kiwi_wolf28055 жыл бұрын
Trump lofi xD
@murky49045 жыл бұрын
Nah James Charles did it better
@pamelagb.5855 жыл бұрын
JAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJA
@alaskagyal4 жыл бұрын
Oh damn I noticed
@bentheblackbutterfly2224 жыл бұрын
Late Upon Arrival 😂😂😂
@Stinky_Steven5 жыл бұрын
Parents: is this *D I S R E S P E C T* ?? Edit: I found this comment a year later and yes this quite literally is the definition of disrespect I don’t know why I thought this was funny
@Mello.5 жыл бұрын
Also Parents: is this *T H E B E L T ??*
@willwinn85595 жыл бұрын
Where do you think these actions are learned..
@thomash2265 жыл бұрын
Elooong Musk That’s an easy way to tell that someone has lost an argument.
@anonymousperson67255 жыл бұрын
Me: *whips out The Whip they whip me with * *OKAY, MY TURN*
@gazebo97304 жыл бұрын
I swear, every time I try to reason with my parents they call it a sin and slap me with a belt
@Kanzu9996 жыл бұрын
'How to be the most annoying person you can argue with'
@ninoski40436 жыл бұрын
That's why those are called dirty tricks, you don't use them on someone important to you
@1NegativeOne6 жыл бұрын
Simple, block them mid sentence
@statuspost98036 жыл бұрын
Kanzu999 give them a mango
@thedeanfoster6 жыл бұрын
yeah no
@sreejith80226 жыл бұрын
Just laugh when someone argues with you ! Its drives them crazy ! Very effective !😉
@marcoolea7157 жыл бұрын
Use the effective “no u”
@caramelllllllll6 жыл бұрын
Marco used "no u" Angry person fainted! Gained 69 XP!
@yellopenpen36536 жыл бұрын
Yesn' men't
@marmalade83446 жыл бұрын
but my friends say no u back pls help
@kingthlayerl.73496 жыл бұрын
@@marmalade8344 just say no u times infinity and you're golden
@marmalade83446 жыл бұрын
thank you epic gamer god
@David-dx5wz5 жыл бұрын
You missed the best “so you’re saying” trick where you take what they say and twist it so that they have to argue against what they said and didn’t say and what they meant by saying so. It can really derail a debate very quickly.
@Tyler-tz7oy4 жыл бұрын
In other words, Jordan Peterson DESTROYS Cathy Newman
@sprazz86684 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty much the same as arguing an absurd ‘version’ of the other’s point, as CB mentioned
@MineCraft-lk8vv4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson REKT that trick
@MineCraft-lk8vv4 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson REKT that trick
@IStMl4 жыл бұрын
My fav
@farinator34095 жыл бұрын
For mothers: * I carried you 9 MONTHS!!* For dads: I rAiSeD you!!!
@Tsmowl5 жыл бұрын
And if you're child doesn't answer something along the lines of "Well, really shouldn't have done that then" you might have raised a pretty dumb child.
@Peter-ie6po4 жыл бұрын
Till u live under my roof !
@Nai-qk4vp4 жыл бұрын
@@Tsmowl Yeah, too bad that's not how reality works and alsoen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority Not an argument , I'm afraid.
@Tsmowl4 жыл бұрын
@@Nai-qk4vp Someone's angry
@mildware10014 жыл бұрын
For me as a single mom.. I carried and raised youuuu.... But I dont usually say that
@n9nex196 жыл бұрын
If your a parent, just say "because I said so"
@thebranmuffin85026 жыл бұрын
hahaha xD
@filipkostadinov73095 жыл бұрын
Argument from authority, call them out
@yashdeo80475 жыл бұрын
you’re
@endretolnai5 жыл бұрын
AppleRain…"because I said so" it will fuels another argument and it is not intelligent attitude...like telling a dog to come here and if the dog doesn't come here you tell it again just louder...you can't explain things to a dog but you can explain things to a child or to other people...both parties will learn something new especially children . Good by.
@yoshi62365 жыл бұрын
@@filipkostadinov7309 I can't, they will then say that I'm disrespecting them.
@iaintevengonholdyou6 жыл бұрын
You can always edit a Wikipedia page
@DjAmaratziOfficial5 жыл бұрын
Jaydyn M Wrong. Certain pages are locked and all pages are moderated.
@Coolsomeone2345 жыл бұрын
True
@decc61325 жыл бұрын
@@DjAmaratziOfficial just inspect element and send a screenshot
@enigma25365 жыл бұрын
And so is your comment
@Ouba15 жыл бұрын
disyorn « inspect elements » lol every programmer is crying rn
@faheem-wani5 жыл бұрын
Another great trick is to make the person lose his confidence. You can use phrases like, "Can you speak loudly and clearly?" Also you should increase the loudness of your voice and make it seem more harsher. For the important lines, take pauses after every word and elevate your voice progressively.
@gowdsake71035 жыл бұрын
Well you wont win, people will just ignore you !
@obviouslykaleb79984 жыл бұрын
For gowd sake can you THINK?! You fell for it fool! Thunder cross split attack! But tbh the pun was unavoidable
@-butterfly-5944 жыл бұрын
@@gowdsake7103 Sure, but what do you mean by "people?" Would people be the other people you're arguing against, or an outside audience looking for who's the most reliable looking guy/girl in the room? In the context of this video the techniques are deliberately dirty and rude tricks, designed to make a party or side win, not to make a logical point win. In this horrible type of "debate," the objective is not to have a conversation or convince the opposing party of your points; it's to convince an audience peering into the debate, and many experts think the only effective tactic to convince an audience you're right is to show that the other person is "weak" or "not even confident" about their points. (Not all politicians use exactly that method, but many are just variants of that.)
@gowdsake71034 жыл бұрын
@@-butterfly-594 People as in a debate or discussion ! Unfortunately the masses fall for this kind of con game far too often
@stealth73084 жыл бұрын
Damn that's harsh
@DoodleDan5 жыл бұрын
I came to see how to win an argument against my mother and instead got a "how to win an argument as a political leader" *smh*
@_jess_thornton_x97675 жыл бұрын
Same lmao
@victoriarosa4754 жыл бұрын
DoodleDan me too she said my dress was to short but it’s finger length I- 🙊
@Inquiring4 жыл бұрын
Victoria’s makeup box It is too short, stop being satanic in the form of showing yourself off. Keep covered.
@victoriarosa4754 жыл бұрын
Question? In school the rule is it’s must be finger tip length (I was going to wear it to school because it was a holiday and On holiday we are allowed to wear holiday clothing which it was) I was following the rules I just didn’t live up to her expectations 🖤 I wasn’t trying to show myself off I was just showing I was fun and I can dress up sometimes 🖤
@Royal_Fortune4 жыл бұрын
Victoria’s makeup box you don’t have to prove anything to that guy, especially being that he’s only some stranger (with a wack view). So long as you liked your outfit and you were comfortable in it I say go for it and fuck what others think. Respect for the rules is nice to an extent but you’ll be happier if you can find a way to live closer to your standards that you set rather than those that others attempt to restrain you by. Take care and have a happy confident life stranger. Screw what that one guy said
@rudystraight17506 жыл бұрын
you'd be a fool to argue with a fool
@xboxpenguin87056 жыл бұрын
Lol that name
@Ninjashadoww5 жыл бұрын
Wrong! Finding a way to get into the head of a fool and convincing him of the truth of your position requires high psychological skills. You are a fool if you think its impossible.
@malcolmholmes25965 жыл бұрын
Democrats are indeed fools
@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou.4 жыл бұрын
Nah, I just point and laugh at them.
@thakraken69954 жыл бұрын
@@Ninjashadoww that's called being a pseudo-intellectual, lmao Fool
@kaif-tube16926 жыл бұрын
Wow, this describes [group you disagree with] too perfectly.
@FriedrichHerschel6 жыл бұрын
Wow, this describes Kaif-Tube too perfectly. I just had to write that paradox ^^
@kaif-tube16926 жыл бұрын
I was just mocking how some people in the comments were thinking it described a curtain group while another would say it described the opposite group. On that note though, based on these people's logic, it very well could describe me...
@nickmagrick77026 жыл бұрын
thats because all groups use these tactics at some point
@festethephule75535 жыл бұрын
That's what so frustrates me. All these people, not realizing they're hypocrites. I'm not even excluding myself btw, but at least I admit it.
@nickmagrick77025 жыл бұрын
@@festethephule7553 by admitting you can do that and trying to change it, doesnt make it alright but it makes you loads better than those who don't
@Astre.4 жыл бұрын
Parents: "Explain to us what happened." Me: "Well, what happened was-" Parents: *_"aRe YoU tAlKInG bAcK tO uS?!?!?"_*
@shermanbrown4194 жыл бұрын
I know right
@sarahm3903 жыл бұрын
**cries aggressively**
@محمدفائزحمدان5 жыл бұрын
Pro tip:if someone says "no u" The only thing you can say "no u u" Then "no u u u" and so on
@Oascany5 жыл бұрын
@the streched boi just say "I'm rubber and you're glue Anything you say to me bounces off and sticks to you."
@qaiser6485 жыл бұрын
Oascany “everything you say will ricochet off me and glue to you”
@Oascany5 жыл бұрын
@@qaiser648 sorry, you're right. But also, no u.
@IX_45 жыл бұрын
@@qaiser648 M&M
@kanyeforpresident25574 жыл бұрын
@@qaiser648 I'm devastating more than ever demonstrating
@jelleotter6 жыл бұрын
How to win an argument: Step 1: say their mom is fat Done.
@darkorbitpro16 жыл бұрын
@Jelle otter no u
@mihyo26396 жыл бұрын
Imong mama
@ilogic12036 жыл бұрын
Your mom is fat your opinion suck
@danielchoi1646 жыл бұрын
which mom?
@DekkarJr5 жыл бұрын
Your mom gay
@snvlogs32166 жыл бұрын
The REAL way to win an argument: Call the other person racist then run away.
@snvlogs32165 жыл бұрын
@Scott Derry Yup
@poopydoopy33135 жыл бұрын
@@snvlogs3216 if that dosent work then call them a nazi and crowd shame them
@alexchimi70935 жыл бұрын
If a lot of people are calling you racist you might want to check your attitude lol
@snvlogs32165 жыл бұрын
@@alexchimi7093 You don't have to be racist to be called racist anymore
@alexchimi70935 жыл бұрын
@@snvlogs3216 how? Don't you think that people are just becoming more conscious of racism as a whole?
@gloriavaldez77626 жыл бұрын
3:00 - In shorter words "who smelt it, dealt it" this brings back so many flashbacks to elementary school oml
@cloudzd.935 жыл бұрын
my mom and my grandma: *blames me on something i didnt do* me: *tryna say the truth and the whole story* my mom and my grandma: *sToP tHat iS DiSrEsPeCt*
@lizziehargrove43104 жыл бұрын
Definetly
@Astre.4 жыл бұрын
They only say that 'cause they know they're losing the argument
@AKA_Guest4 жыл бұрын
Say ok boomer
@DrPingu4 жыл бұрын
you realise if they call you lazy or say you're well disrespectful you gotta remember THEY RAISED YOU
@itslucasyap4 жыл бұрын
Counter their argument about disrespectful, they will say, they are older than you and expect you to stop proving your point albeit it is a true point.
@applesewer26846 жыл бұрын
I hate ALL of these tricks so much and the people that use them evoke nothing but the deepest contempt from within me
@josharntt6 жыл бұрын
That's why they're called dirty tricks
@kkona38686 жыл бұрын
the people who dont use these tricks r weird.
@oleggy58546 жыл бұрын
I have a neighbour like this ugh😡😡😡😡
@axelandersson63146 жыл бұрын
Skufzy Attacking someone’s grammar, for example pointing out that they didn’t capitalise the first letter in the sentence, is on the list in the form of a personal attack.
@itssoloplayer74136 жыл бұрын
Yet your watiching it so ur probally one of those people
@patrickneumann55196 жыл бұрын
How about never talking to people
@ticktockbam6 жыл бұрын
Seems legit.
@matejhrdy6 жыл бұрын
You are right, best solution:-)
@badsoup88576 жыл бұрын
@@matejhrdy ahoj
@xelitez64386 жыл бұрын
Step 1: Be a loner Step 2: Repeat step 1
@yeetasaurusrex3066 жыл бұрын
Go back to 2009 with that gay ass trollface
@erictaylor54626 жыл бұрын
You can always win an argument if you shoot accurately first.
@catchamp18806 жыл бұрын
Well, then it becomes more of a lecture doesn't it?
@AcheronLupus16 жыл бұрын
I prefer to think of it as an aggressive negotiation.
@suchethhegde86376 жыл бұрын
Yes, just look at Alexander Hamilton's example
@DoodleDan5 жыл бұрын
Me: *uses this tactic* Mom: *GO TO YOUR ROOM*
@Riceart4 жыл бұрын
I like my room. I dont HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE AND BUY GROCERIES! TAKE THAT MOM! >:D
@God-ch8lq4 жыл бұрын
*laughs in social anxiety
@AstralHyper3 жыл бұрын
@@coolguy-mc6eo lol same
@calebtimes4537 жыл бұрын
Kafka trap Deny it=guilty Don't deny it=guilty
@azuregriffin11167 жыл бұрын
Sergio Milho yup.
@azuregriffin11167 жыл бұрын
zzz43452 if you're caught off guard that can be a problem.
@Niom_Music7 жыл бұрын
Or just simply don't answer with a yes or a no
@danielmattos28137 жыл бұрын
Sergio Milho u must avoid it or re route
@truexenith85967 жыл бұрын
+Sergio Milho Or just flat out mention the accusation. Like this: “Do your parents know that you are gay yet?” (Not that being gay is wrong) “I’m not gay.” See?
@JoshThewhiteDad6 жыл бұрын
What if the person I am having a argument with watched this!?
@harrygibbons98516 жыл бұрын
Joshua 115 wheres ur profile pic frm
@Entropy3ko6 жыл бұрын
Call them out on their fallacies.
@nowonmetube6 жыл бұрын
*an argument
@swordstrafe6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, you have to make a real argument and actually have a good understanding of what you’re talking about OR a good understanding of how to argue preferably both but either or works tbh
@Delurpee6 жыл бұрын
Immovable object meets unstoppable force
@scottytc5 жыл бұрын
Alternate title: "The argumentative tactics of sociopaths". It's great information.
@cubicyt94413 жыл бұрын
These give you points in the argument, which are still helpful, also when I mean points I mean you know normal points, also here's something to help you, you can say sorry even if you didn't do it just act peaceful, and then the person then will get annoyed of you
@Doc-Holliday18517 жыл бұрын
It's this kind of attitude about arguments that has resulted in the stalemate political sphere we currently live in. You argue because you believe you are right, you believe the facts align are on your side. If you find they aren't on your side, you reevaluate your argument, you find where its lacking and find out why that is. Maybe you even change your opinion. If you just use rhetorical tactics to win an argument rather than relying on facts and good ideas then you'll never change your opinions and bad ideas will flourish.
@CoffeeBreaks7 жыл бұрын
agreed. it's a structural problem with politics though. Rhetorical tactics are just too effective.
@icantthinkofitrightnow27417 жыл бұрын
Will Roberts it's been happening since the beginning of western democracy in ancient greece. It's simple human nature. Human nature, unfortunately, doesn't always work in favour of humanity.
@rickcolumbo31487 жыл бұрын
Coffee Break, by structural problem do you mean having to appeal to a pack of fickle mush heads? And yes, I stole the phrase a "pack of fickle mush heads" from Diamond Joe Quimby.
@j37j27 жыл бұрын
I agree so much. The problem is that these tactics work to convince voters. And why they work is because the people are not educated in critical thinking.
@Macheako7 жыл бұрын
Think about it this way. Better that these "tactics" be laid out so we ALL can see and understand them. Some people, yes, will choose to be butt munches and use them deceptively HOWEVER People like you and me, who also watched the video, will be 100% ready to "deal" with these butt munch types when they come our way though. The spread of knowledge is both a blessing and a curse like that :/
@harrylaflare8466 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure everyone I hate has watched this video
@pinkfloyd45176 жыл бұрын
Jeff LaFlare Lmao same
@jessegrant33496 жыл бұрын
You must lose a lot of arguments
@pinkfloyd45176 жыл бұрын
Jesse Grant you must not make good enough comments to get other people to like them.
@jessegrant33496 жыл бұрын
Aesthetic Vibes why are you coming at me😂
@DarkPuzzle6 жыл бұрын
Your profile picture is goes soo well with that comment!
@SorenHigh5 жыл бұрын
Another good tactic to win is to say "Your mom gay." if you are losing.
@swarnima3285 жыл бұрын
This doesn't works in India
@ianpatrickwijaya26575 жыл бұрын
@@swarnima328 pro tip: use indian language
@danoelmucho25035 жыл бұрын
*NO U*
@danoelmucho25035 жыл бұрын
@Dick Borbon Who decides that?
@anishnehete5 жыл бұрын
@@swarnima328 keep shouting bc, mc laudu etc. At the top of your voice. Even i am an Indian lul.
@neilb1435 жыл бұрын
Or just say *"I CARRIED YOU FOR 9 MONTHS"* Too bad I can't
@zory66994 жыл бұрын
yeah.... big mistake
@mixtapemania67694 жыл бұрын
@PanzerFauz I'm going to say this to a person next time I'm arguing with them irl or on the internet
@largenaq29354 жыл бұрын
Just reply with a “Did I give consent to that?” and watch them flounder in confusion.
@normlariviere98694 жыл бұрын
@@mixtapemania6769 for
@user9999-z3 жыл бұрын
@@mixtapemania6769 lmao you are just going to get insulted back, saying I carried you for 9 months is a really bad insult lmao.
@ck887777 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else get extremely distracted by Trump trying to tear Gorsuch's arm off?
@andrewwang26027 жыл бұрын
So if I use these, I can become a politician?
@theenchilada15256 жыл бұрын
Andrew wang Then everyone that i live with is running for office... shit...
@TalestoryJL6 жыл бұрын
NAH WRONG You need use them as if it's your profession. Just take your time. You're gonna be a 'good' politician.
@lxiaoqi62756 жыл бұрын
No, but you can build a wall.
@possiblyadickhead66536 жыл бұрын
Andrew wang nope where is your money or influence
@iguessyoucouldcallitconten85686 жыл бұрын
Andrew wang *yeh*
@myopinionsarefacts7 жыл бұрын
It's doesn't matter whether 2+2=5 , it only matters if you can prove it
@myopinionsarefacts7 жыл бұрын
I should not be fangirling this much about getting a heart on this
@Anewevisual7 жыл бұрын
Yes you should
@shahzebkhan11177 жыл бұрын
I wish if it's true...
@ll1l1llll1l7 жыл бұрын
my opinions are facts 2+2=4 minus 3, that’s quick maths
@shirleykeding96837 жыл бұрын
Timo You should read Emanuel Kant's take on that lol, maybe you'll change your position
@hellohowareyou97455 жыл бұрын
Tip: if you're a competitive debater or lawyer, DO NOT DO THIS, IT WILL END YOUR CAREER. _Learned from experience_
@aseth95417 жыл бұрын
The Kafka trap reminds me of this joke we used to do. "Are you ashamed of wetting your diapers?" "No. Wait. Yes. Wait, i dont wear diapers. Oh shoot."
@Krispwn7 жыл бұрын
"Have you told your parents that you are gay?"
@Icameron2597 жыл бұрын
"Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"
@aseth95417 жыл бұрын
Marita | it was an elementary school joke.
@ChetzNation7 жыл бұрын
What we did as kids: "are you a gay person (but with a local slur) in a cage?" "N-...No?" "THE GAY IS ON THE LOOSE!" and then everyone was supposed to run away from the gay. Come to think of it it's actually quite an educational piece of homophobia.
@someguy92047 жыл бұрын
"Why don't you believe in God?" Question presupposes that a God exists.
@lusir.5 жыл бұрын
I didn't remember a single thing from this video.
@mariel74754 жыл бұрын
fr though
@FootEnjoyer7 жыл бұрын
This should be called "logical fallacys to watch out for In arguments"
@limitless16926 жыл бұрын
Dawson Yeeee But they know they play dirty arguments It is quite funny when we unvail the truth ....and see the way the game is played...
@fish42256 жыл бұрын
Check the pinned comment.
@darwinxavier35166 жыл бұрын
He does mention in the vid that if you fight clean, you should know about these tricks to counter them.
@Clouddyy4 жыл бұрын
People really whatching this because they have important debate coming up meanwhile i’m just doing this to win as impostor in among us
@stevenrusselformentera93444 жыл бұрын
damn same bro haha
@urrage20884 жыл бұрын
lmaoo
@vladislavdracula17637 жыл бұрын
Basically, "use logical fallacies to manipulate your audience,"
@DiscoFang6 жыл бұрын
"... But ultimately come across as an asshat."
@crc_mircea6 жыл бұрын
Vladislav Dracula that is true mister Țepeş
@YTBraxxGaming7 жыл бұрын
Are you the French Clyde?
@Skenjbear7 жыл бұрын
Voulez vous coucher avec moi?? 😂😂
@brazilianbanker337 жыл бұрын
Braxx South park:v
@mouadgranderson96186 жыл бұрын
clyde,clyde, we found a french man clyde.
@y0Legit6 жыл бұрын
oui
@milascave26 жыл бұрын
kid: that is just the sort of thing a French person would say.
@Lampman7007 жыл бұрын
*thou shalt not commit logical fallacies*
@stt.94336 жыл бұрын
god to know you educate yourself through pol. It's actually stems from a site yourlogicalfallacyis.com something like that. Obviously the picture is more popular but most debate forums will show it.
@Lampman7006 жыл бұрын
St T. I actually don’t have a 4chan account, but I know that it was the cover photo for pol. I’ve probably only been on 4chan about 8ish times.
@regularartist6996 жыл бұрын
deharleyva no. They work for the poorly educated
@anomalouspossession94156 жыл бұрын
>I actually don't have a 4chan account Neither do I, and I've browsed it for years. topkek
@wakkowarner88106 жыл бұрын
thou shalt not get caught making fallacies; if you don't get caught doing it, it didn't happen
@highlyflammableidiot23274 жыл бұрын
How to win an argument: after you proved your argument just say, "I'm wright, your wrong, get over it." It works for me (as long as you make a valid point)
@thakraken69954 жыл бұрын
That just makes someone look like a condescending pseudo-intellectual
@TM-np5lq2 жыл бұрын
Saying something as obnoxious and immature as "I'm *right, you're wrong, get over it" wins no arguments. It may end the conversation because it shows you're not debating by using reasonable points instead YOU are in a power struggle... very different things.
@kawaiijp66386 жыл бұрын
observe your parents argue and follow what your mom does.
@exquisiteaquarium96755 жыл бұрын
So curl up in a ball and get hit?
@ZAGAD-i2x5 жыл бұрын
She always wins hahaha
@thotpolice40165 жыл бұрын
Exquisite Aquarium lmaooo
@venus-qt3et5 жыл бұрын
@@exquisiteaquarium9675 Oh my GOー
@troutmaskreplica58125 жыл бұрын
@@exquisiteaquarium9675 This is the best comment I have EVER read holy shit
@aseth95417 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video as always. This isn't a criticism but an addition. This is also the difference between winning an *Argument* and a *debate*. All the tricks mentioned here are easily spot-able logical fallacies. Debate with anyone even mildly amateur in Debating with this and you will lose. Arguments don't have that kind of integration into them. Debates>Arguments. They yield to better results and are Superiorly articulated.
@FreekinEkin27 жыл бұрын
You probably already know this, but it's worth repeating; understanding comes from cooperative dialogue more so than competitive dialogue (though both have their uses). Politics is about promoting your narrative. It is not about being right. It is about making the demos believe what you say. However, argument/debate are based on opposition, and therefore are founded on intransigence and defensiveness. Defensiveness forces you to fix your meaning in place and continuously bolster it, like politics, even against the facts. So, on the one side you have politics (locks meaning in place/gains hegemony) and on the other you have understanding (sharing ideas to disturb this fixity). This is why political theory works in paradox, since both its terms run in opposite directions. So debate is often (not always) quite harmful to thought, since it complements the political fixity and hegemony it claims to undo.
@timothymclean7 жыл бұрын
The problem is simple. Too often, questions which should be settled by debate are settled in arguments, or--worse--in the next day's newspapers and comment sections.
@aseth95417 жыл бұрын
Person Personworth not on the audiences. Yes.
@JT-jt2id7 жыл бұрын
You do realise all the examoles given above were debates, right? Philosophers argue, politicians debate, friends and family squabble.
@jeice137 жыл бұрын
Adit Seth debates have their disadvantages too. Things like the inability to fluidly respond to the other sides statements, just shoving in more than they have time to refute, requiring a constant standard of proof (at least as far as i know) that assumes certain institutions are actually trustworthy and that doesnt work with things that have gone unstudied for one reason or another. Overall debating seems to be its own skill and in some cases i have seen people lose debates solely due to a lack of said skill and not an inaccurate position
@j37j27 жыл бұрын
Dear Coffee Break, My boss had a conversation/debate with me yesterday in which the facts and logic were against him. He used every one of these tactics; probably unconsciously. Unfortunately, the facts against his position were so weighty and so undeniable that it didn't work. Also, he wasn't particularly good at any of these particular tactics. I managed to defeat his argument using only facts and logic, despite these tactics, something which I am very proud of. I recorded the conversation (for my own benefit, as I always do with this particular boss, because it helps me to be sure of my position in hindsight and identify/correct any faults and shortcomings on my part more accurately) and listened to it after watching your video, and I realize that I just kept bringing it back from these tactics to the facts and logic. I did this without knowing anything about what you presented in this video. But I did know that if facts and logic are firmly on your side, as in my case yesterday, a stronger position cannot be maintained, even in the face of sophistry. I have sometimes found myself getting distracted by these tactics in the past and veering from the facts of the argument into the realm of defense. Thanks to your video I am now more confident in the morality of how I conducted myself yesterday and in the strength of my position. I would appreciate it if you could do a video on how to win an argument using only logic and facts, without using these tactics.
@j37j27 жыл бұрын
May I also say that there is a horribly negative side-effect with using these tactics so frequently to intentionally put the other into personal defense mode over their character rather than over reason and evidence. That side effect is that people are consistently on the defensive, because they EXPECT character slander, even when facts and evidence are the only thing being presented to them. It's like facts and logic are taken as personal slights because they are so used to seeing and participating in personal slights in real life. So they EXPECT facts to be offensive, because there is an emotional attachment within themselves to their position. They have had to defend themselves, their own character, in conjunction with their position so frequently that it in effect melds their personal character with whatever their own position is at that time in their minds. So then facts become offensive in their minds, even when they are only the truth, regardless of how the information is presented.
@j37j27 жыл бұрын
And coffee break, I hope you read my previous replies because of how much your video has moved me. Thanks.
@CoffeeBreaks7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comments :). Glad the video had that impact.
@samblack87066 жыл бұрын
jasonlb136 how do u have so many suns
@samblack87066 жыл бұрын
*subs
@Ecstasus_Mania4 жыл бұрын
If someone accuses you of arguing just say "I'm not arguing I'm explaining why I'm right"
@Tyler-tz7oy4 жыл бұрын
By disagreeing that means that you are arguing by not having an agreement or a resolve in a conflict as you and the other party cannot accept the fact that “you are explaining you are right”.
@yourlocalgamer97013 жыл бұрын
Same thing as arguing.
@leovincent74176 жыл бұрын
Be right in the first place use the right vocabulary and strong logic.
@neurofiedyamato87636 жыл бұрын
True but sadly people use tricks to make the general audience think otherwise.
@mysteriousDSF6 жыл бұрын
Leo Vincent but then the person you argue with will make fun of one of your features (let's say 'you've got ears like Dumbo') and everybody around will laugh at you and the person won and you lost you will feel it
@mickyw3776 жыл бұрын
Leo Vincent ‘Shut up, nerd’
@grizzlyowlbear35386 жыл бұрын
'No u'
@sasdagreat80526 жыл бұрын
If the only way to be right in an argument was to be right in the first place, politics would be much more different from what it is today.
@IdleForever94835 жыл бұрын
Just say “no u” constantly to win the argument.
@KoVurt4 жыл бұрын
No, that just makes you look like an idiot.
@IdleForever94834 жыл бұрын
damn i totally forgot about this comment after a year
@KoVurt4 жыл бұрын
@@IdleForever9483 I wasn't even expecting anyone to respond lool
@IdleForever94834 жыл бұрын
KoVurt, thanks to you that I had rediscovered this gem
@isaiah38614 жыл бұрын
@@KoVurt no u
@andrewevenson77987 жыл бұрын
At the beginning you said an argument is a war to be won. I completely disagree, if you treat an argument like a war there are no winners, only people with opposing views. If you treat an argument correctly, it can be a learning experience for both parties. In a good argument, there is someone who is right, and there is someone who learns. If anyone loses you are doing it wrong. The sooner people view arguments as learning opportunities the easier people will get along. Of course during subjective arguments neither person can be right, so you should have 2 learners. That being said, I understand the point of this video.
@RamzaBeoulves6 жыл бұрын
This is only comment here that deserves to be pinned.
@mrblonde6096 жыл бұрын
Yeah, pretty much this. When i was younger, i've read Schopenhauer, but now i have come to the conclusion that it's not about winning an argument, because there isn't really a win at all when your counterpart still thinks, that he is right and you are wrong. In most cases you will never change the opinion of another one, hence you 'haven't achieved anything. An argument in which people come to an agreement or someone is teaching the other one some things, are a win for both parties. That's the true and only way to win in an argument.
@Excolobaid6 жыл бұрын
but the vast majority of people you'll argue with will use dirty tricks anyway. And even if you know it, you basically can't do anything but pointing it out, and start an argument about how your opponent used a dirty trick to win the argument... Arguments suck. The only valuable debates are philosophical or scientific debates, because then you're not trying to win, but to get the truth.
@85Esparta6 жыл бұрын
whoooosh
@edwardmaxwell39516 жыл бұрын
Excolobaid Exactly! Anybody in a position of power uses dirty tricks to get there, especially politicians and business executives. If you're in a political debate or a board room, it's basically verbal warfare and you have to come prepared.
@gkumar2623 жыл бұрын
Tips to win an argument 1) twisting the sentence 2) keep blaming 3) consistently provoking 4) pointing out mistakes 5) Never waiting for an answer keep firing without a break
@nondescriptnyc Жыл бұрын
This was totally true-until maybe last year. These days, you can simply win an argument by randomly screaming, “Don’t you care about the future of our children?” when the argument has nothing to do with children. This is true for both extreme left and the extreme right!
@dstinnettmusic5 жыл бұрын
Kafka Traps are a really fun debate trick. If someone is getting angry, just ask if this is how they treat their family and raise questions about potential violent language and behavior (because after all, if a stranger on the internet can make you so angry, then imagine how angry a person who lives with you every day can make you)
@iquemedia7 жыл бұрын
You deserve more attention man your videos are so informative
@mumin94367 жыл бұрын
Ique yea dude , im digusted by the channels that grows into more subs with just fake enthusiasm, clickbaits ,totally non-productive info and entertainment
@sebastianelytron84507 жыл бұрын
He needs to take lessons from the What I've Learned channel. Less memes, pop culture, fancy animation and lame jokes, more research, studies and evidence backed facts.
@icecreamdrought7 жыл бұрын
Ique naaaaah, if everyone sees it, it won't work on anyone.
@devgupta8175 жыл бұрын
How to win an Argument? *Break their Mouth*
@jennawuzhere69465 жыл бұрын
The Simpsons I enjoy this tactic.
@gob38555 жыл бұрын
if i get in an argument, I dont talk. I fart then walk away
@JollyRogerTheDodger4 жыл бұрын
I've been eating a lot more protein lately and 'protein farts' are incredible room clearers. I had no idea there was such a thing till I googled it.
@daspicybirb93564 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of staircase wit?
@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou.4 жыл бұрын
Where can one learn this power???
@xexpaguette4 жыл бұрын
I fake sneeze. They immediately start screaming at me, while I walk away. A similar, but more deadly tactic.
@georgeb27436 жыл бұрын
Denial equals guilt... WHO SMELT IT DELT IT !
@andrasfogarasi50146 жыл бұрын
YOU MUST CONFESS TO PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE
@ONeill016 жыл бұрын
But whoever articulate it, particulate it!
@krunkhut62616 жыл бұрын
Say the rhyme do the crime
@TheFel0x6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a trick that soneone needs to use who is W R O N G.
@brianhoule32196 жыл бұрын
Yup , i agree with the smelt it , dealt it theory !!!
@Squalidarity7 жыл бұрын
Say it with me: attention is the currency of the marketplace of ideas.
@CoffeeBreaks7 жыл бұрын
attention is the currency in the marketplace of ideas.
@greatlordbalder7886 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a problem with your profile picture. The Flash and Circle isn't supposed to have a red line through the middle.
@AnabolicAsylum6 жыл бұрын
Treading closely to a logical fallacy Arguementum Ad Populum
@Kingofmolotov7 жыл бұрын
I DIRECTLY walk away from a debate when the opponent begins to use ad hominems. My time is better spent elsewhere. Whereas non sequiturs, I'll point them out and try to reframe the debate.
@migkillerphantom7 жыл бұрын
Prinz von Kirchberg so you give the floor to your opposition. If there is an audience, congratulations, you just got discredited and "lost". This is why irrational argumentation dominates politics, it takes less energy to defeat your opponent.
@IX_45 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna tell ny opponents "i CarriEd YoU fOr NiNE mOnTHs" Or "gO tO yOur rOoM" or "DiSreSpEcTfUL"
@vexmythoclass50004 жыл бұрын
OK karen
@voids.59177 жыл бұрын
Instructions not clear, wife still won argument
@BlakeAerni7 жыл бұрын
If you attack the person and not the argument, that will most likely backfire in the end lol
@firstnamelastname4896 жыл бұрын
Blake Aerni Unless your last name is Trump.
@jcarvah6 жыл бұрын
Reg Ner or Craig
@melvinda35694 жыл бұрын
Finally, a way chance to win a fight againts a karen in a conversation
@avelus59845 жыл бұрын
If someone says “Because I said so”, reply with “So?”
@danielmaingi30057 жыл бұрын
It seems Trump has mastered all the tricks
@osnisida7 жыл бұрын
Dan Maingi he has learned from the great kek
@catarinamelchiorgomes87507 жыл бұрын
Your fascist
@caiden58557 жыл бұрын
Henrique Melchior Gomes Nein
@migkillerphantom7 жыл бұрын
Hillary was trying all the same shit, she just didn't have the charisma or quick wits.
@FrenchcoreFlava7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that just make him a narcissist?
@lizykim74606 жыл бұрын
State what has to be proved Choose your definitions to control the conversation Persuade the audience, not the opponent Denying means guilty Attack the person not the argument to distract The absurd proposition
@pablobronstein12477 жыл бұрын
Ad populum fallacy is an excellent tool to spin facts in your favor. There are many variations of that fallacy, for example "if many agree something to be true so it must be true ". And the appeal to nature "if it is natural it must be right and good". Although appeal to nature is terrible fallacy, radiation is natural and so is cancer, you get the gist.
@Me-rd7po5 жыл бұрын
5:17 "do you want to sleep with me ?" solid facts right there
@lennoxbonnie52104 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo yeaah
@averagejoe92297 жыл бұрын
With the kafka trap; ask the other party what's it gonna take to prove them wrong.
@darwinxavier35166 жыл бұрын
And then they'll come up with some convoluted bullshit that you are either incapable of doing or wouldn't be worth the effort.
@ItsSota7 жыл бұрын
Don't need this cuz I am always right and I know everything
@fayella67907 жыл бұрын
I hate that my mother does this.
@soda31855 жыл бұрын
This video is the equivalent of those game hacks tutorials that say: "This is for entertainment purposes only" lol
@PinInCruiZ7 жыл бұрын
Thanks now I can persuade people that my gender is vape mod
@totesmygoats-bq8mk6 жыл бұрын
Only because I'm vaping while watching
@omnivale18036 жыл бұрын
Trump went to roasting college, Fact
@neurofiedyamato87636 жыл бұрын
Roasting college instead of law or politics.
@bigfootistruenotreal92026 жыл бұрын
Omnivale because putting the word “crooked” before someone’s name is impressive and intelligent.
@midnightmarauders91496 жыл бұрын
You win in an argument by not engaging in one. End of story.
@kamranbashir48426 жыл бұрын
The only winning move is not to play
@jimmys11286 жыл бұрын
Thats called being a pussy, having no values, self respect and an opinion. If you have an opinion, someone with a different one will eventually argue with you.
@FriedrichHerschel6 жыл бұрын
Only someone who loses all his arguments would say that. Trick #4.
@Hirvee56 жыл бұрын
If you don't play you can't reach for the state at the end of the game but one thing to do is to choose a game higher to the one your opponent is playing.
@antpoop24046 жыл бұрын
some people are not good with sarcasm
@kristijanmehun23824 жыл бұрын
Being right and winning an argument are two COMPLETELY different things. You can always be right if you objectively look at things, admit when your wrong, learn from those mistakes, consider other peoples feelings and strive to grow as a person... you don't need any tricks if you are morally and objectively right. Credibility is key... it just takes some time
@angelmakima7 жыл бұрын
Just say: "Look over there!" GUY: "Where!!!" Me: "Broke your neck!" FATALITY
@MaxMiesen6 жыл бұрын
1:20 Are we gonna ignore how Ted just got bamboozled by Bernie
@MaxMiesen6 жыл бұрын
@Brennan McClelland what? did you not see how bernie completely exposed his logical fallacy?
@MaxMiesen6 жыл бұрын
@Brennan McClelland no, ted cruz "ran as a republican and not right wing" the same way bernie "ran as an independent not a socialist" just like he stated
@joeroganofficial54336 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ninjacouch93515 жыл бұрын
@@joeroganofficial5433 Right wing and rpublican pretty much mean the same thing though. Independant == Socialist?
@joeroganofficial54335 жыл бұрын
Tiago Carvalho Scandinavian countries are free market not socialist
@sandstormgamers62955 жыл бұрын
Titel: "how to ALWAYS win an argument" Video: "no one can ALWAYS win an argument" Me: 🤦🤦🤦🤦
@sindrestokke795 жыл бұрын
SandStormGamers Didn’t he just say «no one is always right»?
@WhiteBoyTariq4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't listen to somebody who can't spell title correctly.
@ishaboy50904 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteBoyTariq or to someone who thinks a typo is indicative of a person's spelling ability and someone who thinks spelling is indicative of someone's intelligence 😬
@WhiteBoyTariq4 жыл бұрын
@@ishaboy5090 true I was just bieng a troll
@shmsaaa4 жыл бұрын
SandStormGamers You: Titel Me: 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@wholestick59862 жыл бұрын
these are good techniques to add to my trolling arsenal
@NewerSing7 жыл бұрын
Ad hominem leads to loss. You only use insults when you lose. If you disguise it as criticism then it might play off. There are a lot of strategies, but the ones with subtle lacing are the strongest, opponents usually have no timr to prepare of recover if you go fill blitz on them with that
@arturzathas4997 жыл бұрын
if it leads to loss how can you possibly use them "when you lose", meaning you either use them after you lose or using them leads to loss ( i understand what you mean btw, i just had to call you on it ;))
@ThatCamel1047 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. You can insult someone and still win.
@RamzaBeoulves6 жыл бұрын
You lose the second you rely on logical fallacies.
@wesk26755 жыл бұрын
How to win an argument: Tell your opponent "suck it up cupcake."
@molrat5 жыл бұрын
Go to wikipedia and edit the page about what you were arguing about
@molrat3 жыл бұрын
@The Communist Channel wtf it's been over a year I don't even remember posting this... You can edit most wikipedia pages if they're not about something super famous.
@anubhav36745 жыл бұрын
Step 1: dont argue with your mother Cause you know she will win
@myopinionsarefacts7 жыл бұрын
I will file this away, for reasons...
@paulina2227 жыл бұрын
my opinions are fact
@gyro-disregardian6 жыл бұрын
opinions are for minions
@RickTrajan7 жыл бұрын
Don't be in an argument/debate to prove you are right. it's suppose to be looking for the right answer. you can make a wrong idea look right by giving it a bunch of reasoning to back it up, which will mess you up and all the people who believed you.
@xHenry31106 жыл бұрын
RickTrajan sadly most people's egos won't allow them to be proven wrong, so even if on one level they change their mind during a debate they'll double down on their original point
@firstnamelastname4896 жыл бұрын
If you want the right answer don't debate. Go discuss.
@CE-vd2px6 жыл бұрын
Yeah i wish, people dont care about truth
@voidsong81206 жыл бұрын
Yea but we are talking about arguments in which you HAVE to win not because you want to find the right answer, it's a different type of debate, and if you are having arguments to find a right answer then don't come to videos like this.
@ElectronicLinux6 жыл бұрын
People need to learn how to lose, that's it.
@rebelbeammasterx84727 жыл бұрын
YOU ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD
@MilanLS74 жыл бұрын
looked through the comments and was expecting "ok boomer" but this comment section isn't up to date
@troyexe-fp5fe7 жыл бұрын
At 0:39 the syncing of the video with music sounds like Trump was about to go in on the beat And I hear that jinsang in the background okay I see you
@Bagunka7 жыл бұрын
The best way to win an argument when facts aren't on your side, is to close your ears and yell "La-la-la-la-la!"
@notthirdreich90756 жыл бұрын
Damn, you're right.
@gameplayerpoland48497 жыл бұрын
Kafka trap reminds me of this : Do your mom knows that you take drugs?
@shafaet11946 жыл бұрын
*Does Also that's a nice one though xD
@powerfulgecko52395 жыл бұрын
When your future enemy watches this video
@EricTirado6 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro attacked Piers Morgan because Piers Morgan was using THE ABSURD PROPOSITION technique to win the argument arguing that only those who don't care about school children, would endorse gun control. Ben Shapiro called him out on his fallacy: as "standing on the graves of dead children" as the wrong thing to do to win an argument. He handled it like a boss.
@02BLACKTAWS66 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right. "How dare you?" was the response because Morgan was sure his strategy would work. When it didn't he had nothing prepared.
@caseypei43007 жыл бұрын
I was all like, “yay now I won’t be a failure in debate” Methinks it may be slightly illegal. Fuck
@ahmedbundakji17567 жыл бұрын
YOU'RE ALREADY A FAILURE WITH 2 FIRST NAMES .... THOMAS THOMAS...SORRY I HAD TO BE THE ONE TO BREAK IT TO YOU ....LOL
@azuregriffin11167 жыл бұрын
Try me. You shall not win.
@ahmedbundakji17567 жыл бұрын
WTF??? IS THIS LITTLE BITCH ASS GEEK TRYING TO CHALLENGE ME TO A KEYBOARD DUEL ... YOU CYBER GANG BANGER.. YOU ... YES BITCH ARE ALREADY WON.... GEEKS SCARED THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF ME... U WIN BITCH ... IM OUT =)
@bluerinako7 жыл бұрын
WHY DO YOU TYPE LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT??? .... I HAD A FUCKING ANEURYSM READING THIS.... =)
@zachiga7 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Bundakji HI GUYS I PRESSED MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON AS WELL AND I STILL CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN IT OFF!!!
@drbarney10004 жыл бұрын
In France you can win any debate by breaking out a box of desiccated grapes and announce, "J'ai raison."
@Meisterling6 жыл бұрын
lmao...I don‘t want to be right. I just want everyone to be happy. said no one ever