How To Authentically Poop In The Woods And Not Die

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3 ай бұрын

How one simple trick can save your life after you poop in the woods. Offered as a service to those who want to adventure out on the trail as a Classic Camping Trekker, but have little or no experience on the Historic Trails across the Nation.
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@jamesellsworth9673 3 ай бұрын

You are a fine storyteller. This is an important story. Orienteering is one of the areas where I AM NOT traveling back 100 years. Well...if I don't have satellite service, I will bring a backup.

@sargevining 3 ай бұрын

Back ups are the way to go. I keep my phone off unless I really need it, use the "old school" for regular stuff like going off trail for a poop.

@andymytys 3 ай бұрын

You have a very good mic. The mosquito it caught flying had my dogs dodging what they perceived was flying around the room, played back on an iPhone.

@sargevining 3 ай бұрын

That's the on board mic on my OSMOS Pocket 3. I bought it for shooting on the trail and for the "product showcase" feature, but the mic and image quality were unexpectedly very, very good. Its my main camera now. I've also gotten its remote mic but haven't tried that out yet, but I expect the quality to be every bit as good. Thanks for watching!

@thegrayfox9425 3 ай бұрын

Truer words were never spoke. I once got lost at night for about 15 minutes that seemed like an hour. Ever after, my bag with trowel, tp, etc has in it a button compass, whistle, and tiny flashlight. One morning after camping near an odd bend in the trail, I rejoined the trail going the wrong way for nearly a quarter mile before things started to look oddly familiar. Lost can happen. Best to think about what you will do when it happens to you.

@sargevining 3 ай бұрын

Down here in Coastal Texas we're in a sub-tropical environment from Late April until Late September. The forest is constantly changing, never the same from week to week If the last time you've been in a place was in December and you go back in May, its like you visited a different planet, so you can't count on familiarity with a place or area to help you out. We do have some excellent trail maintainers on the Lone Star Trail and its well marked at close intervals. Still, a map and compas are essential. Thanks for watching!

@aarontasseff8207 3 ай бұрын

Sir, thank you! Your videos are greatly appreciated. I currently live in Wisconsin and appreciate any contacts you have here. Respectfully, Aaron T.

@sargevining 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I don't have any personal contacts in WI, but I'm sure there's a few from up there who are members of Bannerman's Camp Facebook page.

@aarontasseff8207 3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, I steer clear of as much social media as I can. But thank you for responding. Hopefully I run into like minded folks this summer. God bless

@57WillysCJ 3 ай бұрын

Good advice. I remember that lady being lost and the sad outcome. A whistle would have helped as well as a flashing beacon. I have a similar compass from Tru Nord compass that has been in business since 1944. They are accurate but not cheap. As to doing your business, dig the hole at least the full trowel depth or a bit more if possible in dry country. Nothing worse than going off the trail and seeing toilet paper in shallow holes everywhere. Two things I do is one after stepping off the trail turn around and look at where you were on the trail. That will help recognize the the area around the trail. Also take your hiking stick when you find your spot and arrange it so it points to the direction back. If you are insecure bend some of the under growth as you walk. If you walk around anything be it a log or ravine be extremely careful. I would really recomend you not do it. If you are by yourself just stop there. Lastly don't wait until you have to go now as this will go out the window if you hurry.

@sargevining 3 ай бұрын

As long as I've been in the woods, I'd never thought of doing the walking stick trick. Good advice! Next time I poop, I'll remember it!

@MG.50 3 ай бұрын

When I was younger, I hiked the desert in and around Arches National Monument (National Park now, I think). Reading about the area and talking to the rangers, they has at least 1 and typically 3 fatalities per year... just from people stepping off the trail and getting turned around. .ost were older, and most were not carrying a bottle of water. It is 120°F on an average day there, and most of those poor souls died from the heat. There are ore than one way the heat can kill, but dehydration is a major one, causing everything from crippling leg cramps to brain issues to organ shut down. I was told the typical time for someone about 60 to die if lost mid afternoon was 2 hours! They frequently found the person in 2 to 3 hours after they were "lost", and that could mean separated from their friends or party. I was in my mid 20s at the time, and once I talked to a ranger or two about conditions in the area I was going to hike (well off the even minimally marked trail), they agreed I knew what I was doing. Once that poi t was satisfied, they gave info to facilitate a successful hike farther up to Eagle Park than I intended to go. I told them where I was going to park, and they swung by my car a couple of times a day to check on it. I gave them my projected return time, and they said would start a search if I was over 24 hours late. I came in a day early, since my water was running low. I was more worried about my hiking partner than myself. He was a 3 year old 110+ pound German Shepherd. Great companion, but he, like me, preferred the mountains and cold dry air over the desert. The lady you talked about was what I always called a "city hiker" or "weekend hiker". She like many others may have hiked longer distances, but her lack of knowledge at reading a map and using a compass told me there were probably other gaps in her outdoor knowledge. One or two books by Bradford Angier, written in the 1940s could have saved her life. _Paradise Below Zero_ by Calvin Rutstrum cured me of the fear of freezing to death. As Angier pointed out about his book(s), it would be hard to starve in the woods if you knew what was all around you, and the same was true about cold weather dangers by reading Rutstrum's book. I always remember a line delivered by Brian Kieth in the movie "The Mountain Men". When he berated a tinderfoot for getting lost, the man irately asked the old mountain man if HE had never been lost. Keith scratched his gray beard while thinking about it, and he replied, "A fearsome confused for a couple of months, but, no, never lost." The Fur Trade Era was my living history period, and primitive survival was my area of study and part of my lifestyle off and on for 4p+ years. There was a challenge in the 1980s called "Naked Into the Wolderness", and it meant that quite literally. I read an account by a man that took that challenge. His ride dropped him off a bit over half way up a sizeable mountain but still well below the timberline where vegetation started to get sparse. He watched his ride pull away, not to return for two weeks. Note that this was before wireless phones or GPS emergency beacons. When that car drove down the mountain, he was alone and without any method of communication for those two weeks. I often wondered at the emotions he felt, standing totally naked (not even shoes or sicks) in several inches of snow with sundown only 3 or four hours away. He made it, because I read his account of that adventure. However, it dawned on me that if a person failes that challenge, there would be no one to tell their story. They would have died probably deep into the forest. I personally think EVERY SINGLE PERSON venturing away from "civilized" trails, those maintained by the Forest Service, should know at least the basics of Primitive Survival. If you can walk into the wilderness with nothing but your hands and your brain and survive, then you have very little to fear. Any modern implement, even just a good knife, would enable your survival more than a backpack full of "survival gear" that you never learned to use.

@sargevining 3 ай бұрын

I just turned 71. Ever since it became possible to read my hometown newspaper (in NH, I live in TX), I've paid attention to any SAR stories printed. More often than not, some derivation of "retired man in his 60s hiking with his Grandchildren" was the subject of the search, and the search was extended because "he managed to contact 911, but his phone battery died before the signal could be located." Solo hiking used to be my passion. No longer. Safety and Sensibility has taken over my desire for solitude. One of the early memories of my Army service was the Escape and Evasion course given in Basic Training. Fairly rudimentary, but I remember getting the manual and looked up the chapter on "Weapons For Survival". The first sentence read "Firearms can be useful in a survival situation, a knife is essential." I knew then why my Dad gave me a pocket knife when I turned 8. The challenge we face in this Classic Camping thing is that a certain percentage of the folks engaged in it come from a reenacting/living history background and don't have extensive experience or training in the outdoors. I'm trying to give them the best foundation I can using the KZbin platform. Thanks for watching! Hope you find more content to your liking.

@thomasmusso1147 3 ай бұрын

👍👍👍 .. absolute Words of Wisdom. That Incident .. Tragic! 😔. With respect, I fast-forwarded through the section where you recounted her ordeal .. I have previously studied it and just could not bear to visualise it again. YES .. Get .. know how to use .. practice with it .. and have .. a COMPASS, on you at all times! I have a little one that hangs on a clip on my day pack or a lanyard around my neck. Accuracy .. it is good for N-S-E-W and the inbetweens at the very least. I test it regularly against my other compasses and, I have a spot at my bedroom window, accurately referenced to North. It does not supplant my fancier 'dial compass' but is extremely handy for basic reference while on the move. I even use it on my infrequent trips into the Cities .. especially those with 'Old Sections' where the streets and lanes do not run on a NSEW Grid but rather in all directions, everywhere but loose 😏. For what it is worth, herewith my two bits worth .. * Always know where you are (Map). In relation to what major features lie to the N-S-E-W of you .. Roads / Rivers / Geographical Features / Endless Uninhabited Expanses / etc, and how far approximately they are from your (estimated) current position. * If you go off trail, know in what direction and how far (steps). A simple back-bearing will get you back to your original on-trail. * Mark where you went off to go and do your do .. something simple that you will recognise and be able to remove when done. * Back-bearing back to the trail. Get into the habit of back-bearing on the 'negative' .. one that will bring you out on a section of trail that you have already traversed, even if just yards / metres. It is then simple to re-step the short section up to your 'mark', remove it and then continue. In the event of getting lost .. there is plenty out there on You Tube to guide one on the best course of action. The 'Radial Search Pattern' (working from a Fixed Point outwards .. always returning the always visible Fixed Point) is simple, effective and stops one from meandering off in random directions. Lastly .. one is never really 'Lost'. To quote a Survival Expert from the 70's, "One is never really lost. You know exactly where you are, but probably not where you would like to be." 😁. Thanks you for sharing your excellent advice. Until next time then, take care ..

@sargevining 3 ай бұрын

I generally do a number of Google searches for Gerry Cunningham b/c his designs of the 40s-60s are the DNA of camping gear, but those searches also bring up posts on Gerry Largay. It got to the point where it looked like somebody was trying to tell me to do something. Her journal is heartbreaking, and when you realize that she got into her situation by doing something we all must do, its chilling as well. I've never been lost. But I HAVE taken alternative unplanned routes to my destination---

@samueljlarson 3 ай бұрын

I have similar idea for a video about this where I am going to build a simple bench structure out of branches to facilitate... uh...comfort during the act. You can use the first branch as a digging stick too. Good video!

@sargevining 3 ай бұрын

Well, that would depend on how long you waited to do the deed and how much time you need to construct something before you get to the point where carrying that extra pair of underwear made sense. I have a friend who made something similar using a construction trash bag between two trees as a "poop hammock". Thanks for watching!

@MG.50 2 ай бұрын

Ray Mears, the Survival and outdoors living expert from Britain that was popular several decades ago (has it been that long?), built something like that. It was still pretty minimalistic, but it served the need. He was meeting several biologists in the South American jungle for some research they wanted to do, the focus of which I do not recall. Arriving a few days ahead of them, he constructed a community pit toilet. He used two sets of parallel bamboo shafts lashed together, two in front and two behind with some space between, as the "toilet seat". These were secured to adjacent trees. The earth dug out of a moderate sized hole was left in a pile for cover dirt to attenuate the smell and ultimately refill the hole. A conveniently located cut off tree branch held a roll of toilet tissue, and a tarp or blanket could be hung for privacy. This was way more than an individual would need, but it added a bit of comfort and support. Thirty-ish years ago I didn't think much of this as a necessity, but after being crippled by Lyme induced arthritis (yes, the tick-borne bacterial infection known as Lyme disease and more accurately as Borreliosis), my legs are too weak to squat for any length of time these days. But that's another story. By the way, Sarge, at 61 you are a bit over a decade behind me. After 35 years in electronics I went back to my old university and completed my original psychology degree, which I left hanging when I joined the Air Force, learned electronics, and changed career directions. I received my BS in Psychology Dec. 17, 2011, exactly 2 weeks AFTER _my_ sixty first birthday. Keep up the good work. You have a new subscriber.

@ScottCarlson-cz7wj 3 ай бұрын

Superb video. How bout tying plastic marker tape to a trail branch before entering the woods? I'm a back against the tree while squatting guy. Great compass wisdom. When was the Luggable Loo invented? That is revolutionary in the woods. Thanks for the great vid.

@sargevining 3 ай бұрын

The Luggable Loo is a relatively new "invention", but similar contrivances have been around for centuries. Anything that gets you back to the trail is good, so tying tape, rags, string, etc. works for me. I'm a "Grab a small diameter tree and lean back" kind of guy.

@marylove909 3 ай бұрын

Not dying when you poop is definitely the ideal outcome!

@sargevining 3 ай бұрын

One of the most common retorts to someone who is telling a story about trials and tribulations on the trail is "But did you die?". You never want to answer that in the affirmative. Love ya sweetie!