How to Bend Vertical Grain Oak | Stronger Than Flat Grain Bending | Engels Coach

[@leonprod]

No need to apologize. what your doing and how your doing is plenty fine. Your explanation explains everything....thank you.

[@iluzjonista]

Watching this a couple months ago actually made me believe in the process I had envisioned for my man-cave'y steam bending project. Many thanks for giving me the needed confidence back then! Em now slowly increasing thickness of the wood material I can bend, but not having any of the heavy equipment it tends to be hit&miss process sometimes so I have to juggle. Still, simply knowing it can be done on both horizontal and vertical grain is huge value in itself.

[@stun9771]

Wood is simply the most amazing natural material, and it’s great to have a craftsman show us how it can be manipulated...you make it all look so easy - and I know it’s far from that... 👍🏻

[@rowdyhunt5938]

Amazing skill that you can look at a piece of wood and see in it what you want to make and how you must treat the wood to get exactly what you want. That is a true master. I hope you have an apprentice or two, would be a gift to have your knowledge passed on to another generation.

[@slfriend]

Beautiful work! Love your tensioning method! ❤️ from a Hawaii boat builder!

[@warrenwilson7836]

Love your work, your patience, knowledge, crafstmanship. Finding your channel was a very nice discovery. Thank you for the work you do to share an art that might be fading.

[@thirty006]

Thank you so much for taking the time to share this and make this video. Very informative and straight to the point.

[@EdOfTheNorth]

Wood is certainly a versatile material to work with even when the grain is obstinate. Looking good and thanks for the video.

[@michaelmagaruh7767]

This is a great video, thanks for sharing! Architects and designers LOVE to bend and curve wood...on paper. Then they wonder why it costs so much in labor to actually do it! hahaha

[@hisatnam]

Single camera is quite good enough and your directions are great too.... Nice share bro. Thanks

[@donniebeall8152]

I can never get enough of your work ..absolutely love the work

[@HarnealMedia]

Amazing technique. Thank you for sharing a lifetime of knowledge with the world

[@TrevorDennis100]

That's a really good point. It would be reassuring to know that all that skill and knowledge was being passed on to an apprentice, and would not be lost.

[@TheUncleRuckus]

Idk how but somehow I missed this video. Looks great Dave as always! 👍👍

[@ha-y-in6938]

And I'm so impressed with my self bending 1/16 inch wood around a 4 inch pvc pipe, then I watched your bend. Deflation sets in. But great video thanks for sharing.

[@wayneburchwell1977]

You are an amazing craftsman. I admire your skill and knowledge.

[@thomaskuzia8125]

You are an amazing craftsman !!! Tom

[@davidhamm5626]

A beautiful job. Thanks for taking us along !

[@SuperSquark]

I love the wrinkles Authentic looking. Rustic. Imagine the state of the wagon after a 1000 miles cross country! There's more than wrinkles

[@rodneywroten2994]

that is amazing to bend that direction. and your jigs are really safe. thanks

[@chippysteve4524]

Fascinating.I've been an oakaholic for over twenty years and am very happy to say that I get an enormous amount of insight from watching your terrific videos. It is a thing of wonder that you choose to share your wisdom with the World and I cannot thank you enough. Under what circumstances would one choose to bend with the grain 'vertical' rather than 'on the flat'? Is it for strength,or stability perhaps?

[@Marker1024]

Basically it means bending along the grain, AKA quarter sawn. So he starts with a thick flat sawn piece and rips it into strips effectively creating quarter sawn material in the "vertical" direction. Since wood expands and contacts more along the annular rings it is thought to bend better when oriented in the direction Engle is bending it. Quarter sawn is also more stable to build with and bend, because the grain is of more uniform composition throughout the stock vs flat sawn where the annular rings scoop in and out of the stock.

[@johntompkins147]

Nice work, I think you've done this a time or twenty. Thanks for the video, impressive.

[@Mike-vn7ys]

I think your photography is very understandable. (We haven't evolve with four arms yet) .I Enjoy watching a real Craftsman at work. I take it you must of made a huge amount of mistakes when you first learned these crafts because your attention to detail is impeccable. (Or do you cut the mistakes out). Thank you for sharing, can't hardly wait for the next video.

[@Mike-vn7ys]

EngelsCoachShop You do fantastic work and I look up to that. I hope that you understand that I was pulling your leg about cutting out mistakes on your video. Your skills stand up in my world. We all make mistakes and when we make them it’s just a lesson on how to correct and move on to try again. Thank you for your reply, Thanks for reading and see you next time. Mike

[@tonyciarleglio8651]

Fantastic work! Your jig set up is awesome! Would you know of a good resource for making locking wooden bucket/barrel hoops? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[@esai61]

Really impressive !! Thanks !

[@stephboeker7835]

That is just so cool :) I look forward to each of your new video's coming and love every one !! Thanks for sharing , sincerely .............

[@timschenck509]

Beautiful, I just found you. Very Nice work, Thanks for the post

[@ron827]

Moly holy, I did not think that was possible!!!! I missed what species of wood it was. Thanks for allowing us along for the big bend.

[@mikedarr6968]

Amazing craftsmanship. Never mind the minor video angles.

[@glenngoodale1709]

Thank you for the video. Merry Christmas

[@azrider2011]

Thank you for your display bend oak

[@johnnydeutschemark3620]

thanks for the good information, nice tips in there i will use.

[@murilocarvalho4976]

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[@murilocarvalho4976]

@@EngelsCoachShop agradeço a gentileza normalmente as traduções São para o português de Portugal que é muito diferente deste do Brasil Continue a ser sempre este profissional excelente Faz falta um aprediz que poça eternisar todo este seu conhecimento Mais uma vez obrigado por conceder tão belo conhecimento

[@josepenaherrera6354]

Gracias. Saludos desde Perú!

[@wsflather]

Thanks for the time and effort you put into your videos. i have learned more from watching your trouble shooting your work than most other how-to's I have watched. I have wondered if there was much difference bending with the grain oriented vertical or horizontal. I am making bent parts for chairs, sometimes the part is more attractive with the grain oriented vertically.

[@hermannstraub3743]

Fascinating work. I have near to nothing experiance with bending but one theoretical consideration: wouldnt it be better to bend with laying grain and sapwood outside like bows are made. Wood splits best perpendicular to the grain and this wrinkle does exact this. As always thanks for sharing, very interesting.

[@kevinreardon2558]

Thanks for showing.

[@rthavi4166]

Watching the bending press in action is like the inverse of those hydraulic press videos

[@BigRock804]

Hi: Very interesting, but I was surprised about the wrinkle. I knew that you could bend the curve that way and thatmuch, because I had to bend my Morris chair arms. I was very surprised how easy it was to bend 6/4 Quarter Sawn White Oak. That bending rack you have is a beautiful machine and I enjoy watching you use it and all of your blacksmith and coach work.

[@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078]

I think more than a few of us are envious of that machine (and a few others) that he has accumulated in his shop.

[@SilasJura]

EngelsCoachShop How did you plane out the wrinkle on that curve? I’ve only planed flat wood so I’m curious the tool & technique you used to accomplish it. Thanks and great work you do. I really enjoy watching and learning from a true craftsman.

Fascinating.

[@DSH1LL]

Impressive!

[@jamesconner8275]

Everytime I watch one of these bends I'm waiting for something to go POP!

[@melaniewestberg2886]

-4 Carl, Nah, he has done this before. But probably holds his breath, too.

[@BobY52944]

Stress me out to watch.

[@donaldasayers]

In terms of fracture mechanics your wrinkle in wood is equivalent to a crack in a material like steel only in compression. Only you can judge whether you are prepared to live with it.

[@sleim754]

Is the bending strap a special type of steel?

[@mtobrien1]

Is there any advantage to bending wood "against the grain" as you did with this wood? Is it less likely to break, sturdier somehow?

[@andoidv8945]

Fascinating 😃

[@aldemir6127]

As usual, great job.

[@darinb3524]

Amazing!!!

[@michaelflynn6178]

Always interesting Thanks

[@noybnoyb3298]

How long are you keeping your white oak in the steamer ? I've bent quartersawn 2-1/4" x 4-11/16" x 9' white oak in a steambox but it took approx 12hrs in the box before I put it too form,,,,I never really thought of doing it with a ram type of setup like you have there,,,I've used an adjustable stepping block form with the blocks 8" apart ,,,,I was surprised that the oak bent as easily as it did, my bends were no where near as extreme radius of yours,,.. This summer I'll be tackling some south african mahogany and teak bending for an old 1939 woodenboat...Thanks for sharing your bending techniques, I've learned some things from them so far, that I'll try this summer,,,thks again...

[@yellowdeer7163]

Is it stronger when it's bent on the vertical? Thanks for the video. I see others asking the same question.

[@rickc4317]

I guess I may have missed this, sorry. However, what is the specific reason you bent it vertical grained instead of horizontal grained like usual? Was it for extra strength or was it the way the board was dimensioned originally so in order to have the boards dimensioned correctly this was the only way they could be bent and wind up with correct dimensions? This was fascinating. I hope you videoed how you cut them back to get rid of the wrinkles, too. Thanks for showing us this!

[@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078]

I think it has to do with the stresses put on the axle hounds under load. They act like a torsion/sway bars; as I understand it, anyway...

[@rickc4317]

Great explanation. Got it, thanks!

[@tanyav7888]

I Love it.

[@Iamphuster]

I am trying to figure out how my 1901 Art Deco waterfall top was made.. It is NOT laminated, there are no kerf cuts underneath. It's 5/16 at the rear, and definitely a tight bend at the front. Any insights greatly appreciated. It is a single piece of Maple.

[@arkansas1336]

This is awesome. You certainly have 'the touch and knowledge' to work with wood! Would the closer grain of white oak been better or about the same as the red oak? Thanks for a great video!!! ….13

[@rodneyrockwell2810]

Amazing

[@vernonland5987]

would making some shallow perpendicular cuts on the inside part of the bend help in keeping wrinkles from forming?

[@rtkville]

Amazing! You sure do know your stuff, great job! I'm curious though how long do / did you leave the wood in the steam box? Based on the size of the work piece it must have been several hours. Thanks again.

[@Katzenkratscher]

This is off-topic. I visited Arts&Metiers in Paris and found out that 1700-century french cannon wheels were rimmed with eight separate steel plates. Why did they not use a continuous rim?

[@colsoncustoms8994]

How difficult would a slight bend on a hickory pick axe handle be?

[@duanelundgren7985]

I would suppose sled runners would be a similar exercise... but with thicker wood... Is there anything to be gained by steaming LONGER? Especially for thicker wood..?? Thanks Dave, great video!!

[@duanelundgren7985]

Thanks, Mr. Dave!

[@rickmccaskill7888]

If I want to steam bend 3/4 in oak, how long should I steam the wood? Thank so much for the help.

[@tomtruesdale6901]

An other great video. I might have missed it watching but how long did you steam the piece before you started the bending operation and do you have any idea the amount torque being applied to the press when you bend a piece that size?

[@tomtruesdale6901]

Thank you, I figure your bending rig most likely produces a LOT of torque, especially with the 1800:1 reduction

[@jefferdman5921]

Is your press hydraulic? Nice video?

[@rjlundeen]

Is there danger of something letting loose and creating an explosion?

[@arlingtonhynes]

Great video as always. How did you plane/shave/whatever the inside of the curve?

[@arlingtonhynes]

EngelsCoachShop Thanks

[@jimc4731]

An Auriou rasp is a great tool for the final shaping and a good rougher in some applications. JIM

[@SomeGuyInSandy]

Wow, I didn't know that was possible! Does this work for most woods, or is there something special about Oak?

[@Wooden-things]

I would have never believed it to be possible to bend in that grain orientation .

[@pathansufiyan5859]

Sir l want to bend old saal wood with size of 5×3 is it possible to bend with these same machine please suggest me

[@rriquelmy3522]

Camera work is good, no apologies warranted.

[@pethoviejo]

Nice!

[@tomlockard5653]

pethoviejo I

[@1jtolvey]

ROCK-ON !!!

[@leebarnes655]

There is always a part of me left wondering where in the world some of the terminology for these parts come from. Hounds for example and I'm staring at a completely blank wall. Not to worry though, it feels like home since I find myself here quite often.

[@vonhier]

Even coaches and "hounds" might have something in common. In the 16th century miners called their small, hand driven wagons "hunt" or "hund" - which is the German equivalent for "hound"

[@gilbertodiaz-castro626]

Awesome work, too sad that these are almost extinct skills as our new generation doesn't like doing creative work that doesn't involve computers. They don't know how much they are missing on the satisfaction of seeing the completion of their hand-made product.

[@MidnightAmratha]

Please take a second look at the wrinkle towards the back of the bend where there is a blob/smear that has the outlines of a face if you look long enough at it.

[@TedwinTansan]

plot twist: he's making horseshoe for his giant horse pet

[@tsmith235]

I sure do like watching your videos someday I'd like to come to your town and Shake Your Hand

[@duanelundgren7985]

I've been there and done that... but let me warn you: YOU'LL WANT TO GO BACK AGAIN....and AGAIN!!! :-)

[@docpedersen7582]

Perfect is okay....

[@thisnicklldo]

Sorcery. I would have bet a lot of money that this would be impossible.

[@SuperSquark]

Don't Americans work fast! He's like me.