How to Build my Running Shoe Rotation & Save $$$

[@nomadicneanderthal1377]

I ran my first half marathon today. I credit this channel and community for the motivation to keep it up. Love all of you! Thanks Seth and the fam for bringing us all this awesome content!

[@bikerdude6119]

Im at 8.5 today , im planning on reaching 13.1 aswell

[@thomasdamato9430]

Ran my 10k virtual this morning sorry I missed wishing dgr good morning, hope everyone’s runs are going as planned. I feel honored to participate as due to the fact my wife of 40 years has been battling cancer the last 10 years and not to go into her situation but research has up to this point has kept her alive. So my deepest gratitude to all of dgr’s participation and of course biggest thanks to Seth for having the foresight to set it up. My sincere appreciation to all as Seth says please please Love Eachother

[@The_Shoe_In_With_Cody]

As a programmer/ data engineer building a shoe generator based off members selections wouldn’t be difficult. You would just need to build out a database that properly categorizes the shoe (road/trail, neutral/stability, etc). The hard part comes properly maintaining the database of shoes, don’t want someone getting out dated options. Best of luck!

[@danfsteeple]

Runner’s World used to have something similar. But the outdated issue happened when it wasn’t maintained

[@dominicmcnamara]

Alternatively.....build out the db with one record SAUCONY ENDORPHIN SPEED as it is all things, to everyone, across all requirements, for all distances beyond 2miles. 😊😊 😜😜

[@_andrewpeacock]

I’m wondering if this information can be web scraped or using shoe store APIs (though I doubt theyre public).

[@RyanSmith-hf7gc]

A running shoe finder would be great!

[@JuanMeneses36]

I wish we had shoe stores like that in Maine. We don’t have many, but I have been to most of them. If you don’t have the specific shoe you want in the first 5 minutes they don’t talk to you again. In the last year, you can’t even go to the FleetFeet stores unless you have paid for a shoe. I am really glad to have these shoe review videos and running warehouse.

[@dannyj1983]

I think a "whats your body weight" question could be good as well for people who are heavier and looking to avoid soft shoes; such as the rebel v2 or Clifton 8. Secondly, a race prep shoe rotation question that helps someone create a 3 shoe rotation based on distance/training plan. I know that's a bit trickier though. Another way to bargain shop for shoes is on the REI website via the outlet or used gear section. I've gotten great deals on gear through the used gear store. Cheers, DGR!

[@philhiney]

Seth, you already have the perfect running shoe finder - the running shoe matrix videos! I find this videos the so useful when it comes to finding the right shoes for my rotation! It could be cool to have a version of a running shoe matrix which features more affordable trainers too

[@cakej1]

Watching this minutes before warming up for DGR mile. DGR Strong 💪

[@chrisdick726]

Ran mine yesterday. Have a good one!

[@philippegagne268]

[@speedstick5]

How did it go?

[@cakej1]

@@speedstick5 4:29 downhill mile. Goal was sub 4:30 with just the threshold training I've been doing.

[@gbaker125]

I cannot emphasize this enough: buy old models!! I am currently running in Pegasus 37s that I got for $71 and a pair of Skechers Max Road 4s that I got for $50. If you just let yourself be okay with being 12-18 months "behind", and know where/how to search around online and in person, you'll always find great deals. And if you find a great deal, grab the shoes even if you won't wear them for a bit.

[@gregme18]

QD: I feel like many of the major shoe brands, including Hoka, have shoe finding algorithms but it would be nice if there was one that wasn’t brand specific, might even make sense to collaborate with other shoetubers to build it out.

[@donalddarko3676]

I dont find any of their "shoe finders" any cop. It would be nice if they had specific heel midfoot and forefoot measurements. Arch height. Gait cycle and then specific ride characteristics. The trouble is not even the manufacturer knows how your going to feel in the shoe.

[@davidmusil4145]

I just use 2 pairs of running shoes. Hoka Mach 4 for road and Inov-8 Terra Ultra G270 for trail. It's enough for my 4-5 runs a week, 55km weekly average.

[@TheChessPlayer1956]

Truly it is a vast forest out there. So many good choices. Which one? A question tree would be wonderful. Part of how I presently focus is brand loyalty. Mine is Skechers and Hoka. Between these two brands all my needs can be met. My hybrid is the Hoka Challenger 6. I'm a neutral runner. All around daily trainer and all distances short and long and speeds, Hoka Mach 4(Tweener). Also a good daily trainer is my Skechers GoRun (no ride) 7" My racer/tempo, Skechers Razor 3 (Cloak read Zebra print. Ha!) Hey, those carbon plates are expensive, so the Razor 3 will do. Easy day/recovery shoe: Hoka Clifton 7 and the Max Road 4. Question: If you are a neutral runner, is it harmful to run in stability shoes? I bought the Skechers Forza 4 before I knew I was a neutral runner.

[@ryankrause618]

: to me, it sounds like the most efficient way to implement a shoe matching system like this would be to have different types of "tags" on each shoe (i.e. road, trail, neutral, stability, responsive, low drop, etc), and based on the questions asked and the answers given, the right shoe or shoe type would be narrowed down by filtering to the shoes that match the tags with the given answers that being said, i have pretty little programming experience, but from a logical perspective, this is probably how it would work. i don't think it would be too difficult for someone who knows what they are doing to create, but feel free to roast me if i'm wrong about any of this

[@arlandirkson6024]

Had the same idea. Search for the shoes that satisfy all the tags you select.

[@shannonsides6017]

CK taking the shoe matrix to the next level! If you get someone to program this shoe selector on your website, they should also program your affiliate links, if you have any!

[@travisrogen6437]

Think that you nailed it on now to approach the best way to narrow down shoe purchase in specialty running shops!! I have been working in them for the last 5 years and when a new customer needs advice I ask them the questions that you stated in today’s vlog to eliminate the shoes that won’t work for them. Going back to question on day, I think a shoe finder would help a lot of DGR make right shoe decisions. May still need a eye though to analyze running mechanics

[@bradballantine9644]

This is a great Vlog for those learning the basics of running! Thanks Seth for bringing shoe knowledge down to our level

[@marrunslow3815]

LOVE CK’s idea... 👍🏼 just finished my DGR Global 1mile. Been running for 30 years now - slow but keepin’ on keepin’ on 🥴 🏃🏽‍♀️

[@jeanramos1534]

QOD: YES! A shoe finder would be amazing.

[@curtdalgleish2903]

Great idea on the shoe selector app! I recently used one at a running shop. They asked some questions but the 'perfect shoes' selected by the app aren't good for me. An additional question that would really help would be "what are your favorite and least favorite shoes in your current collection?". Examples are best.

[@seankayea2259]

I could see how it could be overwhelming selecting a shoe. I wear a 15 4E. I have 2 brands and about 8 models to choose from. It makes my selections pretty easy!

[@thomaslealdesouza867]

Yesterday night I was watching for the third time last year shoe rotation video, praying for a 2021 analysis and early matrix! Thanks Seth for hearing my prayers! Good weekend from Rio de Janeiro 🙏🏃‍♂️

[@saskiakaarsgaren3346]

I really like the shoe selectors that show you options based on the (old) model that you love.

[@geertjanvanaalten]

that would be awesome! Most of the generators are based on fabric specs. It would be great to have an generator whit the 50mile input.

[@ZIlberbot]

could you give some details about shoes from under armour, based on feedbacks they are also good shoes but without big and loud advertisements

[@cayenne767]

QD: I love that idea, especially because it would come from a ‘sales pitch point’. I’d also add options like “wide vs narrow feet” flat footed, etc

[@celloman2525]

QD: I buy almost all my shoes either from LRS or from Road Runner Sports. RRS has something similar (called the Shoe Dog, I think, will fetch you the right kind of shoes) that helps determine in a basic sense what kind of shoes are suited for you or what you're looking for.

[@mvzinn111]

I think the shoe selector is a great idea. For me, and perhaps many, a daily trainer matrix would be fantastic. Racing shoes and specialty shoes are just not in my future.

[@m0e566]

Good morning everyone, have a great day

[@nathanbaker1727]

Might have to have a look at some last year's models for some long run shoes, or because of my job I can get the Reebock Floatride Energy 3's for £48 which look good for longer easy runs. Currently got road wise: Adidas SL20, Pegasus 37's, Adios Adizero Pro's and I have the Puma Deviate Nitro on the way (they might do for my long run shoes but I don't know yet). Just starting getting into doing some trail running so got the Saucony Peregrine 11's for about £80, if I keep it up i'll probably look at upgrading.

[@aler8910]

Maybe a little bit late to the party to answer a question. But I think the best way would be to work with Strava, pull shoe data like overall mileage, average mileage per sesh, pace, terrain, feeling after training sesh… than use your durometer tests and personal ratings for the Strava data… it would be the best shoe suggestion based on Some good data!

[@JavierISampedroTNF]

Sure a good option is to buy last year´s model. I did that when I was aware of the NB Beacon v1 and got a pair at a very good price. I may do the same if I can get a pair of Novablast too. Right now I am rotating between Novablast and Pegasus 37, and gonna rescue a pair of G2000-6 for the easy-recovery days. Trail shoe with Torrent 2 and Sense Ride 3, but the Wildhorse 7 has caught me for a while or either getting the Sense Ride 4 later on.

[@tomylee]

QD: Dropbox to define drop, hight etc. to get possible options. Like I am looking for minimal drop and minimal cushoining etc.

[@m0e566]

For those looking for some hot deals, over the last years I found some fire deals in Nike and Adidas Factory Outlets.I’ve got a pair of Zoomflys fks for 35€ and a pair of Boston’s for ~50€

[@takejantalgar1503]

My new shoe rotation: Novablast 2 Endorphin speed 1 Asics Metaspeed sky

[@spacemanstanly]

Please test out the Reebok floatride Energy3 before you make the next running running shoe matrix video. THE BUDGET DAILY TRAINERS NEED MORE LOVE FROM THE BIG CHANNELS!!!

[@mdny7788]

Customer / viewer reviews, that’s the most important thing for your website shoe selector

[@dominicmcnamara]

Step 1 road or trail Step 2 race or train Step 3 neutral or stability As, trainers like Saucony Endorphin Speed, ASICS Novablast 2, Hoka Mach 4, Puma Velocity, Skechers Razor Elite and Hyperion Tempo are the do it all Trainer. Simply, buy 3 pairs of Novablast 2 throughout the year, rather than 3 different shoes. Use the newest pair for highest speed or highest impact training. Use the oldest pair for slower, longer, softer training days. Example 1 Get Endorphin Pro and 3 × 4-monthly phased pairs of Endorphin Speed Example 2 Get ASICS MetaSpeed Sky and 3 × 4-monthly phased pairs of Novabalst2 Example 3 Get Puma Nitro Elite and 3 × 4-monthly phased pairs of Velocity Nitro Example 4 Get VP Next%2 and 4 × 3-monthly phased pairs of Hoka Mach 4 Example 5 Get VP Next%2 and 3 × 4-monthly phased pairs of Skechers Razor Elite + Example 6 Get VP Next%2 and 3 × 4-monthly phased pairs of Brooks Hyperion Tempo Example 7 Get VP Next%2 and 3 × 4-monthly phased pairs of Tempo Next% (oh my my my, butter my bread, says Seth) (option 2 would be my favourite) The firmness and outsole of the oldest trainers will soften through the 500-800mile lifetime.

[@Pietrotherunningfarmer]

Have a nice weekend everybody 👍

[@marielledevaal6029]

great idea and put pace range in there as wel! And maybe weight range?

[@mikehowerton630]

OOOH, Yeah...a running shoe finder flow chart would be cool.

[@DarkPa1adin]

For me, 1 daily trainer (do it all) 1 speed day shoe

[@benw2578]

I’m not going to throw you under the bus for the change in my running shoe collection before and after watching my first DGR video over a year ago... lol!

[@coachsmith4950]

How I build my shoe rotation: Step 1: “what do they have in a size 14?” Step 2: Repeat step 1

[@cdigdawg]

Man, I hear that. I've ended up with some crappy shoes due to my big feet.

[@justinjordaens7864]

That quiz system sounds actually amazing, gotta he a 10/10 idea.

[@Carlomagnus333]

I thought the Rebel V2 were more for easy days

[@tungvu]

QOD: easy and simple interface would be a flowchart.

[@mauricioecheverri5751]

New to the shoe rotation concept. I have a pair of Clifton 7 and Rebel 2. Training for HM under 1:50 in the fall. What third pair of running shoes would you recommend?

[@Reaper006]

I would say at minimum it would be good to organize the shoes into categories based on what you think the use is. For example: long run shoes, daily shoes, etc.... then for each shoe page have the characteristics of it and any other uses that it may be good for.

[@gosekinz]

Relatively easy to do a shoe selection filter - but who is going to maintain it? - you'll want to be able to deselect by brand as well - put me in touch with your developer ..

[@danieltsuedo334]

I can vouch for joes new balance..., picked up beacon v2’s for 50 bucks.., luckily I was 1 of the 2 sizes available.

[@mysticks08]

Oh I clicked that link faster than Kipchoges km when I thought you had a shoe finder...then I realized it was a qod...I need one 😃🤙

[@ultimusG]

I have one shoe as daily trainer and my speed shoe (Asics Sortiemagic). I only do 5k - 10k runs since I’m not training for anything beyond that.

[@MattRunsColorado]

Have you tried the Altra Timp 3 trail runners? Only have 20 miles in mine but I really enjoy them.

[@TheCustomer]

Do you prefer Novablast 2 or 1? Does it worth the extra $ ?

[@frankhuybrechts6122]

Hey seth, I really enjoy your reviews, but soo much shoessss🤦. Maybe you can give me a little advice : i m a 49-year old marathon runner (3:30), and since 5-6 years a always run on Nimbus (short, long, interval, easy, race...). Now i want to buy 2 shoes: one for easy/interval training/short and one for the long trainings and the race. I really like the stability of Asics, i ve tried Nike, but to soft for me. Very curious what you should choose. Thanks anyway, greetings from Belgium, Frank

[@CrazybassistGaming]

Do you record with more than one microphone? Not sure what it is, but it sounds like two separate audio tracks that are done with two separate mics and almost gives your voice an autotuned sound. Not sure how else to describe it. It's not just this video either. I probably wouldn't have noticed it if I wasn't using a headset. Thanks for the videos. They're very informative. Just had to ask the question about the audio.

[@ryanrisbridger2063]

Curious about the Speedcross 5 and how this fits into the groupings in today’s vlog?

[@dannyvulich]

Good stuff. I have about 7 pairs I’m rotating through.

[@katemillard7565]

Shout out to Black toe in Toronto! Despite the name they were able to tell me which brands I might like based on my current shoes and went through the different types of shoes with me. Also free returns for those of us not in toronto.

[@_andrewpeacock]

Can anyone please educate me on why you’d want so many different running shoes? Wouldn’t you want to practice and train in the shoe you’d race in? Makes sense for trail vs road, but then I’d argue you should be training mostly on trail (if a trail race is coming)? Thanks in advance and God bless!

[@MarcosGarcia-tj2tb]

Great breakdown!! Thank you

[@joshuaharling3728]

Seth, Saucony Xodus 11 review, when will we see it?

[@samuel99813]

For interval and fartlek short tempo less than 2 miles which is better comfort and responsive for treadmill novablast 2 or noosa tri 13?

[@Shevock]

What surprised me is most running shoes don't seem to be available in wide sizes. Does anyone know a racing day shoe (esp half marathon) that is made in wide sizes?

[@nikvret9544]

Which drop is better for fast trainings and which one for long run ?

[@cianmcdonalds7567]

You should review track spikes. Anyone know were to get nike zoom x dragonfly spikes anywhere

[@mcdowec.2020]

Directly from Nike, running wearhouse, or gazelle sports

[@cianmcdonalds7567]

@@mcdowec.2020 runningwear house are sold out and i live in the uk

[@cianmcdonalds7567]

@@mcdowec.2020 nike are all sold out too

[@matthewcunnningham8715]

Yes, a few questions if you are looking specific trainers. I wouldn't go any more than 6 questions. People get bored very quick. Will I do. Lol.

[@runningwithheart1737]

Seth did you just show us the blue pro2?

[@shakikarian4779]

Don’t know if you have answered the question or not, what’s the best type of shoes for tempo run? Is it ok to run a tempo using a everyday run shoes like novablast/React infinity/Fresh foam v10 - neutral, high cushioned shoes ?

[@imaXkillXya]

The all black Pegasus 37 are $66 at the online Nike store.

[@PSL09]

got em for 61

[@BlueManatee]

Seth with you be reviewing the new balance rc elite V2?

[@backyard1015]

Question of the day.. there are shoe finders on the internet in which you can put your purpose, gender, gait, distance, archetype, etc. There are independent ones, Brooks has one on their website, Hoka has one.

[@pammurfin1953]

I love the idea of a shoe finder and, like others, I think it would be great if reviews could be left with the shoe model. I find more info in reading several reviews than anywhere. It seems there is always someone discussing a situation or detail that I, too, am interested in! DGR strong!

[@kuztro02]

Hello everyone. I love to jog/run but I have poor eyesight. I don't wear my glasses while running because of the fear of dropping them or sweat dripping on the lens. Can you suggest a brand/type of running shoe for me to add to my rotation? I usually run on the road. My running shoe rotation consists of the NB Fuelcell Prism (lightweight stability) and an Asics Gel-Ortholite. Thanks!

[@OscarDeCicco]

I think Runner's world has a shoes generator which works pretty well

[@kingal89]

Runners world recommendations are too biased

[@runningwithheart1737]

Not necessarily an answer to the QD, but have you thought about creating a singlet that says ‘Easy days easy, Hard days hard’? Fresh prince of bell air style graffiti with little block letters under it that say DGR Strong. On the back of front it wouldn’t matter to me, but I’d throw my money at you for that thing

[@kingal89]

Solid idea 💡

[@ckhyker6259]

Right on!

[@ionwittig2572]

QD: the shoe generator would be amazing if would be properly done. Also the generator to giveaway few options. The best options on top and least one the bottom.

[@rummie2693]

The idea of a autogenerator is a good idea, but I think just providing links to videos of shoes that fall into x or y categories.

[@MattD86]

What does Steasy mean?

[@runningdav721]

The way I see things, I'm not sure running shoes companies would be happy to see some of their shoes categorised in a way they think is inappropriate so it shouldn't be of your responsibility to build and maintain such a database. Better if someone like RunningWarehouse did it and why not partnering with them to include "DGR's choice" !

[@menahelmy4131]

I really want to find the pegasus 35, if anyone knows where I can please tell me !

[@pareo3336]

Good Morning

[@Deadbuck73]

39! My son’s lucky number!

[@brennandavis6791]

Nice. I own every shoe in the thumbnail (basically, I only have the first Novablasts)

[@RunnersCorner2024]

good morning dgr family 👪. Run well today

[@TheCustomer]

Stability for supinating? That sounds wrong!

[@janetduback5161]

Yeah neutral is the way to go.

[@machupikachu8349]

Any recommendations for supination? Preferably a mid to firm landing. newbie here. 😊

[@King-pi2zx]

I think none of your shoes described have stability in them 😢

[@GregCheekSpeaks]

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[@jamesreid5950]

5th!

[@mattbarrett6186]

Shoes choice is very subjugated. It’s rare modern shoes are poor just maybe better for one person or another and slightly better for pace than another and it changes for size too.

[@NeillyVille]

First

[@davidfournier4753]

QOD yes yes yes yes p

[@Pietrotherunningfarmer]

First