How To Build Single Length Irons - sterling irons

[@EFreeman1970]

Found what I was looking for in Single length. Awesome! Lot of information but makes sense. Thank you again!

[@jameslovering9158]

I'm a taller golfer and did a backyard shaft extension, added 1.5 inches which was too much given my high but I can grip down alittle. I also put on Midsized grips ( Golf Pride MC +4). I don't have equipment to measure the weights, this was done on the cheap PW-5 Iron (6 Irons), what I realized after was the 5 Iron is now the same length as my 4 Iron ( Srixon Z 525 ) and my 3 Iron ( Cobra Forged CB ). So 5,4,3 are all the same length and its great, I feel very confident now with any of these clubs. I don't get the 3 iron fear from the grass. The weights are no doubt messed up but its great having the same length for these long Irons.

[@Wsushocks33]

Jim you DA MAN!!!! You’re killing it with the info and videos. Keep it up, from one fitter to another!

[@McGolf]

Colton Berk thanks

[@zanimationtv]

Measure twice cut once. I'm assembling a single length set of irons based on the 7 iron., 37". Do I trim the tip 1:00" as recommended by the shaft company, and stick with the same 1:00" tip trim for all the irons? Thank you.

[@marykeandgarrygauvreau2355]

Great video, Question do you do a progressive tip trim on sl clubs or all same tip trim?

[@MrSig-ye8hq]

@McGolf Did you use the same exact shaft in every single head? Did you use a 7i or 6i shaft cut to size in all the irons? Did you tip or butt trim the shafts differently to control spin for the given iron head? I've been really curious about shaft replacement in single length irons. Thanks

[@jonathansmith9705]

Looks like a fun side-hustle! How did you get started -- I'd like to? I heard you use the words frequency matched -- what does that mean or what is done? I have an old set of Ram Tour Grinds with FM 6.5 or frequency matched shafts. Thx!

[@MultiTylertv]

Hey Jim, I got a guestion for you. I bought a used set of forge tecs for a steal of a price. It's a 5-9 set, but the 5i and 9i head - although set up with a standard length shaft - are one length heads. If I put the proper one length shafts on those heads; would I be able to shorten the 6i by 1/2 an inch and then lengthen the 8i 1/2 an inch to have a pseudo one length set? Or is that 1/2 an inch really detremental to those irons. Thank you

[@jamesmc81]

Hey Jim, sounds like you are more in favour of the same shaft in all one length heads. If so what shaft and specs did you go with. Did you put *a* 7 iron shaft in all heads for example?

[@canes075]

Picked up my custom set yesterday with jumbo grips. They swing out to C8 or so. Best clubs I have ever hit bar none, love them.

[@joeysince9328]

hey Dallas, would you be interested in trying OMNI Golf Clubs?

[@canes075]

@@joeysince9328 never heard of them? I will look them up

[@Bkkbudtender]

Im thinking about changing thr shaft on my one length forgec tec cobra Do I need to order 6 taper tip shaft (all in 7iron specs?) Normally taper tip shaft are sold in sets right? (6 pieces 5-p) each shaft is meant for that specific iron. Are you saying That I should order all 6 shafts in 7 iron specs or buy the 5-p shaft set and butt trim each of them to 7 iron spec?

[@HaroldJackson]

Funny. How can a person that score is 100 or plus know the difference? I like the idea of one length club and jumbo grips. What do you think.😊

[@IIISWILIII]

I just got a set of Cobra one length irons. I am below average in height, 57, if I shorten the clubs by half an inch from 37.5 to 37 in. Should I expect a decrease in yardage? How much would it affect the swingweight?

[@thailandpattaya7725]

Best clubs you'll ever buy been playing them for 2 years now Got mine in 8 iron length and swing weight D4 I didn't like PW and 9 iron in 8 iron length so I had them cut down to normal length which they feel much better ball don't go as high but still same distance I got steelfiber shafts i80 stiff PW to 6 iron regular in 5 iron and senior in 4 iron PW 128yards...9-140...8-153...7-165...6-175...5-186...4-195 Try these clubs you'll never go back to normal length clubs Tom Wishon has done a great job

[@joeysince9328]

Hey Steven. random but would you be interested in trying out OMNI Golf Clubs?

[@MSDOGS1976]

Good looking irons. I just bought a set of Cobra f9 one length and really like them. Didn't buy the long irons as I like my hybrids. Got 6-gap. Hitting the irons more solid for whatever reason. Better for my lower back too.

[@allenwilson8913]

Jim is going to end up costing me a boat load of money! I need a bunch of tools so I can build myself some clubs.

[@McGolf]

Allen Wilson working on that for future builders

[@ronrund]

Jim, I used to do a lot of club building and repair but after 10 years I gave it up because I just didn’t have the time to keep up with a full time job and the growing club repair business. Now that I am retired I would like to build myself a set of single length irons. I would like to use the Sterling heads and 8 iron length shafts. My question is where can I purchase the sterling heads? Great video and thanks for your help.

[@kourt2469]

Ron Rund you have to be a certified club fitter or have an account with wishon (diamond golf uk) to get the heads. Or sometimes they’ll pop up on eBay.

[@termides]

If Gregg wanted logo down what was the point of the spine and Flow?

[@MississippiWopGenius396]

Im sold on SL-but I use SL thru 7 iron and standard in my longer clubs which I use hybrids anyway (6 on up) but long story short, SL is for people who need to hit the ball higher. The gaps in loft do need to be a lil more and you could actually eliminate a 9 iron or 8 iron from the set.

[@PARDS2]

Hoped you cover shaft trimming instructions. Do you make multiple 7 iron shafts (or whatever length iron you choose) with the tip and butt end cut identically or do you trim the tip for the number of the iron, making the shaft flex progressive as with a usual set, then butt trim to the one length of the set thanks

[@McGolf]

Once the length is established I then find the flex on the first irons and continue the same process. The single length ideal is that the club will work in the same way. Meaning the flex is the same, length and lie etc.

[@McGolf]

www.amazon.com/shop/mcgolfcustomclubs try this I just put a few knives in the store. There is the box knife I se for the ferrule and heavier work then the smaller handle knife for scraping off grip tape, opening boxes etc. Its smaller and more maneuverable where the box knife is heavier and does the heavy stuff better. since 1999 I have used only 2

[@courtney93100]

Jim, I see sterling charges around 1200.00 US for a set, wahts the cost for a set from you run as an example. Thanks.

[@marcopolo7334]

I have a set for sale if you are interested.

[@courtney93100]

@@marcopolo7334 , thanks for the reply. I decide to keep my old Ping irons and get fitted. Played Friday and hit the ball well. My normal round is around 130ish. The rain stopoed us at the end of eight, shot a 50. Have a great day.

[@drewwilms6843]

McGill Custom Clubs hey man I was wondering because I am on a budget for a set of used irons I am looking at a set of old Tommy Armour Oversized and a set if old Cobra Oversized as well. I am interested in improving my game though, I really want a set of single lengths. Is it possible to get either of those sets made on a budget to single length???

[@td1138]

Any special considerations on shaft selection for single length clubs? Aren’t some shafts designed to compensate for the fact that longer irons will have higher swingweight? Awesome video! You are certainly one busy guy.

[@McGolf]

Tom Donnelly you are talking about counter balanced shaft. In irons they are rare. But there are also back weights that can do the same thing from balance certified. Sometimes the SW cam also be overcome by bigger grips. Because if you need that typically you are a bigger guy

[@davidmcnamara3243]

Ps 38 for 8 iron 9 iron 37.75 Pw 37.59 You may find it beneficial to counter balance at the grip end, with either lead tape, or a "counter balance weight kit".

[@1309elm]

I was thinking about building my own single length irons with 38in shafts. But I came a cross a video that said that 4 irons and 9 irons on normal clubs are different club head weights. But the single length irons heads all weigh the same…. So I stopped looking into it. Was I wrong? Can I make single length irons using the standard iron heads? Does the weight difference affect things?

[@TrumpsEarBandage]

Single length heads should all be same lie and same weight. I built myself a set using In1zone heads and Apollo stepless shafts to test the concept, all in less than $200. I lost a touch of distance on the longer end, this is normal, but my handicap dropped 6 points in a year. I play a lot smarter now (you’re almost forced too)and my hdcp is continuing to drop. A gapping session is a must after you fully embrace the system.

[@mrflknight]

How do i get a price on setting up single length irons? I have a 1993 set of wood bros cb forged cavity back heads and true temper t-step iron shafts 3 thru sw. I was thinking the jumbo mac grips? But have smaller hands and some arthritis.

[@mrflknight]

Please email me at [e-mail] ( if i decided to build myself( without all the spline and swingweight equipment how do i start? 7 iron length i think. Im only 5'8 and wrist to floor approx 35.5 in. How do i change the lie on each head?

[@davidmcnamara3243]

Single length irons, are a godsend to taller golfers. I'm 6'4" and it's very difficult to stoop over a short iron at standard length and it makes me come in too steep. 8 /9/and pitching wedge 37/37.75/37.50 inches please.!

[@LokiLures]

I understand that Back in the early days of single length clubs. Part of the solution to getting the clubs to hit their expected distances. Was to adjust the kick points of the shafts to raise or lower the ball flights. Is this still a thing? Or has club head technology “fixed” this?

[@kourt2469]

LokiLures cobra is trying shaft weight and flex to tackle the issue but it doesn’t work well and throws off the feel between clubs. Wishons heads seem to do the trick. I’ve played them for 3 years and have no issues except a low flight 4 iron but it’s also 19 degrees of loft so you really shouldn’t even have one unless you swing 85 mph with a 7 iron length club.

[@FBRR2]

I have a "hyrid" one length, My shorter irons are standard length, and my 6 5 4 irons are he same length!

[@jeffreygentes]

Hey there mr mcGolf. What do you use for frequency analyzer sheets? I have x100s that i measured with a maltby frequency analyzer and according to the sheet that I have, it says they’re less than a regular flex! Thanks in advance!

[@McGolf]

I use a sheet that is calibrate to me machine. You flex issue might a few things. One- a massively soft stepped irons (unlikely) or some excessive use of weight in the head. or you need to take another look at the chart to make sure the length and numbers are int he proper place. I have to do a double take as the GW chart is reverse of mine. That error is too big to ignore.

[@jeffreygentes]

@@McGolf the numbers aren’t too off it doesn’t seem, but the classification of a 315 CPM shaft at less than an RFlex seems off. That’s what the GW maltby sheet shows me...

[@McGolf]

@@jeffreygentes at 38" its at the top of the X range for me, @ 36.5" it gets into the R flex range top end

[@jeffreygentes]

@@McGolf that’s the range that I’m used to, what sheets do you use? Is there a place where I can buy those? Thanks for your help!

[@McGolf]

@@jeffreygentes contact golfworks they have charts

[@mattrevilock5890]

Awesome content as always. Looking forward to my next experience with you and this club building adventure. Question: have you built a staggered single length set. Meaning a 5 6 7 8 at one length and the wedges normal?

[@McGolf]

Matt Revilock the short answer is no in the same model. And yes when the golfer wanted and different model wedge set.

[@McGolf]

Matt Revilock by they way our club building session will be a fitting session I’ll explain when you get here

[@mattrevilock5890]

Ok. See you Friday.

[@brutalaj]

Hi Jim, if you didn't meet the swing weight desired here, would you ask the buyer to try it first and then if he didn't like it add butt weights to lower the swingweight?

[@McGolf]

That's a good process. Keep in mind most golfers cant feel a 3 sw change. A small percentage can but most cant

[@bobbymarson6685]

Jim what length did you make the single length irons? I thought I heard you say TW suggested to make them 37.50 the 6 Iron length?

[@McGolf]

Bobby Marson tom suggests 8 iron length however I will go as high as the 6 iron depending on the golfer

[@sandychan7933]

I own a set of pxgs and there was this video about converting pxgs to single length. As a clubfitter, do u think this is possible?

[@kourt2469]

Sandy Chan not worth it. Especially for how much those pxgs cost not worth destroying them. You’ll have to add like 30 grams to the lower loft irons and then grind off and drill out 15-20 grams from the higher lofts. Probably couldn’t even do it with the pxg hollow heads.

[@td1138]

I may never achieve the finish quality of McGolf. However, if I can master the Jim McCleery Final Polishing Twirl, I will be a happy clubmaker!

[@jadamane]

Hey any forward where I can buy 4 and 7 eq1nx fairway wood regular shaft rh?

[@tylercollins6654]

So i am assuming it is not recommended to turn a set of irons into a single length set if they are not designed for it? For example Ping G irons?

[@McGolf]

Tyler Collins you would be correct

[@Cohen177]

First of all: Great video and insights on single length clubs! But then I am a bit surprised that you have to work 12hour shifts outside the whole club building stuff. I am 25 and think of becoming something like you (clubbuilding, fitting and repairing) but now I am thinking can you make enough money to make a living? How hard is it if you compete against OEMs and big chainstores?

[@McGolf]

Like any business, you need to have a plan, research and driver to make it a go. This actually started as a part time thing and grew naturally into the business it is. I dont work the second job for maintaining the first. I do it for insurance and 401K. At my age my priorities changes. Yes a smaller outfit can slam bigger stores. but keep in mind it is a business not a hobby

[@stuyboy]

After doing logo-down, was the FLO messed up?

[@McGolf]

stuyboy yes, they are close, but not on

[@johnanderson1181]

Sir, Everyone seems to want the single length clubs a little longer. I'm very short and would want to go the other way. Instead of making all clubs 7 or 8 iron length; I'd like to go shorter and make all clubs to pitching wedge length. I realize that the 5,6,7, irons won't go quite as far , bit I don't care. As long as I know how far each one goes that's all matters to me. My concern is that you can't get the total weight, kick point and swing weight correct. I have a set of NOVA length clubs and would consider purchasing a new set if you can cut them down and make them work. Thanks, John

[@2tall54]

Since the Sterling irons are a single length, I assume the lie angle is the same for all the irons. What is the lie angle you had on these irons?

[@2tall54]

Nevermind, you answered my question at the end...thank you for your video.

[@joshano8735]

I'm debating reshafting my one lengths but it still confuses me on what shaft to use.

[@Therestaurantboss]

I put steel fiber 110 in mine. Absolutely love them. We hard stepped the p-lw and soft stepped the 4-6 leaving the 7-9 at normal tip trim for my 8 iron length.

[@Lush1954]

What do you charge to build a one length set

[@McGolf]

depends on the shaft and grip and head give us an email for a complete quote [e-mail]

[@kellycochrane8491]

Nothing wrong with the presentation, but I just want to correct you on the fact that Wishon was first to market with SL. The original SL date way back -- I believe Moe Norman played SL. Then, of course, there was a couple of failed attempts at SL in the 90s (I believe). But of the modern SL, David Lake has been producing 1Irons (1Iron golf) since the 90s. I played 1Irons since 2007, which predates Wishon by some time. In fact, I think ValueGolf's Pinhawks and maybe even Diamond Tours In1Zone SL irons predate the Sterlings. The In1Zone are highly under-rated. Their out-of-the-box lofts don't make great sense, but they bend like butter, so they are easily adjusted. My point is that Bryson DeChambeau and Wishon get far too much credit for this concept.

[@OtterLakeFlutes]

Oh... ok. So... then it takes special heads...darn. So I can't really make either single length or even 2 lengths out of my new Maltby KE4 Forged iron heads? They are forged 1030 steel and so of course can be bent a bit, and they are highly weight customizeable between the one removable weight and aaaall the places to hide weights or cleanly apply tape, like no other head I've held. I'm not even ready to use them but they were discontinued and I really wanted them for my future, esp. at 50% off for heads I knew so many people on so many levels enjoyed. I saw a oddball brand of $2000 golf club sets that touted just two shaft lengths, advertised (on some site that sells single replacement irons), and wondered why it wasn't more common. Now I see this, single lengths? Well I guess it's similar because those, I think, had woods. Seems to make so much more sense after hunkering down for a 9 iron and thinking "should I be standing like this for my 4 iron and backing away from the ball, so that I have a consistent posture?". I'm learning, but I guess I can see how lie angles really need adjusting sometimes for some people. I like the idea of doing something special with these heads I got. While not earning any aesthetic elegance awards, this Maltby KE4 "Forged" model in the KE4 adjustable weights line has an amazing potential for weight-tinkering. A removable weight in the middle, and just all kinds of space to add and even hide weights. Big, deep pockets one either side of the middle weight, one could even dig out the metal decal and add weight lead tape there anywhere around the perimeter if desired to experiment, people put little triangular tapes in the trapezoidal spaces...hehe. I couldn't resist. Turns out I bought the second to the last set and then they were gone forever. I guess they had a 6 year run. Every owner I see liked them, unlike some other KE4's with much more mixed reviews. But I guess on average, real players' players don't want such an oddball thing, and higher cappers want more tow & heel weight, and so all the newer models just have a removable weight in the toe and/or heel, no more uber-tinker-able ones anymore like these with cavernous pockets in the tow and heel you could rent out to sleepy Japanese tourists to nap inside, with the removable screw weight just in the middle. I'm just tickled pink I have them, but will bide my time making these clubs up special. Somehow. I'm thinking TrueTemper Dynamic Gold-something steel, maybe lighter than standard. I even like the feel of Apollo Shadow stepped steel lighter shaft, honestly, but I like the thick, ever-lasting chrome job of TT's and want to play and experiment eight-tinkering with these heads for a long time. I want to improve a bit before I even use them, but if I hadn't bought them, I'd have never gotten them. 50% off and totally unique. Being form forged instead of cast sealed the deal. If I watch enough videos, as a machinist and archery bow and arrow designer and builder, I can probably fit myself if I take my time.

[@McGolf]

the KE4 is a strong iron design, hence the long run at Golf Works. enjoy the journey that is club making

[@Ahhhnope657]

Where are you in Ohio?

[@McGolf]

waverly, 1 hr south of columbus

[@codymarshallrc]

im 6'5 and found out ive been playing with woman's irons from 1990

[@neilcameron3021]

jumbo grips mess up swingweights! make the clubs lighter,i like to swingweight to say E0 without grips

[@McGolf]

that's why building to a particular SW it is unrealistic when using the monster sized grips.

[@joeb5958]

I know some jumbo grips mess up swing weight, but I thought that Winn was really pretty light relative to the size? I made the mistake of slapping some medium jumbo max’s on my sterlings a couple years ago before I knew what then consequence would be.

[@charlesmeloro9902]

Not sure what you really wanted to present here. Nice brief comments on Wish on single length technology, but the build presentation was terrible. Then the day two presentation was even worst. I feel you are teaching, then teach.