How To Butt Your Joints Using Lining Paper

[@anthonyzuk1624]

My first time decorating this last few weeks - knew nothing before and learnt it all from your videos. Thank you - saved me a lot of money and made it quite enjoyable to get a job done which I'm quite proud of.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

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[@2icelollys1goat]

Seen two of your videos and I'm so impressed. You're a star

[@PaintingandDecorating]

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[@acropolisnow9466]

Really enjoy the videos the two fellas on here do. Proper stuff, informative and no nonsense, and seem like down to earth blokes too.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

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[@budte]

Sizing the walls used to be done with cow glue that left a sheen on the walls. When you hung your paper the water in the paste would reactivate the size and the two would dry together, even though the primary reason for sizing was to kill suction and create slip. Using a thinned out version of the wallpaper paste as size later became an acceptable practical alternative - but using pva as a size can be risky as it can dry like a skin, not reactivate and mix with the paste on the paper and even pull off the wall. Those cheap snapoff blades are thinner and less likely to drag than stanley blades, though for me scissors are best everytime. Good to see someone using a chalk line to start off lining paper - I was surprised at some of the so-called professional videos not understanding the need on lining paper. For anyone reading, if you don't use a chalk line to hang your first piece on each wall, then it may look like it is hung in a straight line to the eye, but the edge will probably waiver in and out 5mm or more. That means every piece of paper you hang on that wall you will have to make it waiver in and out to match that first piece. Use a chalk line to create a straight line for your first piece and the rest of the wall will be straight.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Lol.

[@spencercolgan]

Please tell us what you use on your walls before hanging wallpaper. Primer? Sealer?

[@TheAudiostud]

Following your advice I hung an anaglypta coral pattern RD995 and it looked great, only there were some small gaps which I filled using caulking and it blended in seamlessly, that was until I painted it and at certain angles you could see the caulking, which appeared as a thin line. Is there anything I can do to rectify this the colour of the paint was wheat I've given it 2 coats! Should I give it another pass maybe covering the caulking with a heavy coat? I would be grateful for any advise you have, thank you for your time

[@tablechair1842]

TheAudiostud hi, in currently in a similar situation. What did you do to resolve it? Thanks.

[@keithtomalin3172]

If be interested to know the answer on this one too

[@petershanle9675]

Great job learning very good tips from. Amazing job

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thank you.

[@markflanagan8538]

Hi, great channel. Thank you for the way you explain everything in detail. I've learnt so much. I was wondering if you could help me with a job I've just completed. I used lining paper (grade 1400) to help with the imperfections on the walls. The room had been rewired so I filled the channels with plaster and a finishing plaster (easyfill). Before papering I treated the walls with a watered down pva. Once the lining paper was completely dry I applied the first coat of paint just as you've described by adding a small amount of water. I then let the paint to dry for 4hrs (following the manufacturers spec of 2-4hrs). I was extremely happy with the result so far untill I finished the second coat. Bubbles started appear and some of the paper seems to have come away especially over the new plastered sections. Also the paint seems to be darker in sections! There's no heating in the room and maybe the paint hasn't dried completely yet but it's had 12hrs so far! I'd really appreciate your feedback so I can rectify these issues. Many thanks, Mark.

[@Rustyfinger]

Good vid. I’m surprised you don’t use a normal 9” roller though for pasting, medium pile, super quick and I find I get more of an even coverage. It will definitely help with your elbow as well.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Do use a roller with ready mixed paste.

[@lk7329]

Many thanks for your clear and useful adivice.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thank you're welcome.

[@peterfido8735]

Rather than double pasting could you paste the paper and the wall instead ?

[@andrewmcgeorge7820]

If your painting the wall up and down is fine. Even if you butt doing it horizontally the paper slips down Under no circumstances as you say overlap. I always leave a gap and fill with pollyfilla the quick set tube. Othe readymixed falls out

[@bentaylor2086]

Sorry to hear about the tendinitis it's awful hope you manage to get some relief for the pain great job👍

[@linerforce]

I know the feeling well I had the same, cortisone wore off in 3 months but for me acupuncture worked and I never had it again hope this can help you . Retired Bricklayer

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Yes horrible pain and weakness thankfully I have recovered okay... but have reduced how mush heavy stuff I do with my arms repetitive work holding things... rollers on render did me.. thanks

[@markrowland5393]

Looks great. Thanks for showing how you trim with a knife. I note that you prefer to use scissors with finished paper. That makes me feel a bit better as I have given up trying to use a knife on finished paper as I always tear it. If I'm using lining paper in the future, I'll have another go with a knife.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thanks, if I can I use a knife on lining paper with long lengths like that, but not everywhere.

[@Viv884]

Nice Work,Great Job!

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thank you

[@ratchriat1716]

the utility knife you use makes and speed the process faster enjoyed the video.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thanks.

[@lukas1jamroskovic170]

Hello i would like to ask you if i wanna hang wallpapper over lining paper do i have to leave little gaps between lining papers?thank you in advance

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Hi, you never want to overlap lining paper ever so as long as your gap is no bigger than a couple of millimeters then that's okay.

[@lukas1jamroskovic170]

Thank you very much for your answer .And i would like to ask you ,i had holes around the window and i filled them with silicone ,do you think that i will be able to hang lining paper as well there(any problem with glue ) ? Many thanks

[@NoneOfYourBusiness961]

Had some problems with a 1700 grade lining paper on a hall stairs and landing. All looked fine at first, No overlaps. First coat then fill with easy sand polycell. Couple of seams had overlapped in the centre of two strips of paper..Could this be due to dry seams? I had to cut out the overlapps and fill again.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Can depend on what lining paper you used normal or fiber lining. Normal lining is easy to manipulate over the uneven surface of the wall. Other than that it's down to poor application.

[@theodorcosminvoicu9240]

Thank you, for your videos!

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thank you.

[@laddersman]

how big is your paste brush and where is best place to get one please ?

[@PaintingandDecorating]

6" and you can get them from your local decorating center. Dulux or Crown and many other D.I.Y. shops. thanks

[@laddersman]

@@PaintingandDecorating thanks m8 keep these videos coming ,

[@TheAudiostud]

Well I listened to myself and applied 2 further coats of paint and there is no longer a problem, I had covered the wall with what I thought was a heavy coat of paint, but obviously not now that problem is sorted onto the next project 👍🏻

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Sorry about that some comments I miss replying... thought I'd replied but usually caulk is a big no for filling gaps in paper... usually put first coat on then fill using powder filler mixed with some paint.. we call this a hard stop filler.

[@thisall4real]

Im about to line paper my livingroom before painting. 3 out of the 4 walls are long with no windows etc so I will go horizontal like this. The 4th wall has a door and large window which leaves 3 areas needing paper. Each area is only around 80cm wide so thinking going vertical with these bits... Is this adviced or should i keep it all horizontal??

[@PaintingandDecorating]

If your applying emulsion then it's okay if your papering then best to go horizontal. thanks

[@thisall4real]

@@PaintingandDecorating Thanks for your reply. Yeh , just read on a forum if painting you can go vertical. Might just do every wall vertical as might be easier for the me with shorter pieces being my first time.

[@Paul-kx7gh]

Enjoyed your videos but on this one why do you put the paper on horizontally, just curious?

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Can be faster and less joints on the wall... you cross line for wallpapers and for emulsion...

[@antoniosantos8424]

Good video, i will ask you something. I have an old house that my father in law constructed, all walls are in cement (concret) and are just painting over the cement, the walls are very roaf too. Can i use lining paper 1200 or 1400 and paste direct over the wals or not ? The second question is about painting, whats the best paint typ to paint over the lining paper ? The last question is about the type of lining paper, there are several types or the brand and type is not very important?, Sorry for my bad English, thanks. Antonio Portugal

[@PaintingandDecorating]

sorry for my late reply hope your job went okay... so many questions some slip by.... depending on how rough you mean rough... no. textured wallpaper would be better for rough walls... hides more imperfections.... you can get some thick insulating lining paper and special adhesive ... good for cold walls and will smooth them... expensive.. we have videos on it.. and for paint most paints will be okay to go over lining paper...

[@ronchambers8397]

How did you manage to paste the top & bottom edges of the paper and avoid paste on the table without moving the edge nearest you away from the edge of the table?? - (at least I didn't notice you move it?!).

[@markrowland5393]

Sorry to hear about your tendonitis. Very painful. I suffered from it years ago. I did find that regular immersions of my elbow (mornings and evenings) in very hot water helped a lot.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thanks. yes hot water does help.

[@markrowland5393]

The tennis elbow that I suffered from was caused by playing squash. Fortunately, I made a complete recovery. The way I was cured may not be relevant to your tendonitis but I'll quickly go through it just in case it may help you. 1) Morning and evening immersions in very hot water as already mentioned. 2) Winding tape around the racket handle to make it larger and therefore forcing me to change my grip on the handle. 3) Making a conscious effort not to grip the handle of the racket too tightly. The other thing that may help you is to use a smaller pasting brush. I realise this may slow you down but it may help. Hope some or all of this helps. Cheers, Mark.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

@@markrowland5393 Thanks Mark, smaller brush I think.

[@TAIL313]

Would you recommend caulking the butt joints to achieve a smoother finish if you're printing and want to avoid seeing the paper lines?

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Never use caulk, paint first then mix a hard stop filler if the joints show.

[@craigwilliams7516]

Sorry to hear about the elbow, very painful, I know from experience. Obviously everyone's an expert on here (plenty of advice for you! 😁) but I found ultrasound treatment on the scar tissue and massage on the tight muscles given by my physio was very helpful. Good luck pal 👍🏻

[@Rich-fr9xn]

What ratio of PVA to water did you use to size the walls.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

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[@phillcom3]

typicaly 1 :4 or 5

[@stevenmcfarlane8831]

Hi. Why not just apply a coat of paste on your wall or size instead of pva ?

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Paste is not made for sealing although it would help stop paste absorbing off the wallpaper. Size is very old school and it's harder to use because you need to mix it with boiling water and it stinks. PVA diluted does a far better job quicker to use.

[@stevenmcfarlane8831]

Painting and Decorating yeah I remember it stinks lol

[@phillcom3]

im finding using my bosh spray gun with 1:4 ratio is working amazing! done in 5 mins over 3 walls, do the second coat once first is done or after any other plaster touchups@@PaintingandDecorating only used 3x 500mm mixes all over these 3 walls ( medium bedroom) too. i know the first coat had doen its job when teh 2nd was runing off after not so much sprey as it wasnt absorbing.

[@jamescampbell972]

Hi there how long did it take you to complete this job

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Think this job took 4 days.

[@adriansandry2783]

It would have been more helpful if you'd told me about double pasting heavier grade lining paper a week ago and before I had to discover it for myself! Heavy grade paper really does suck in the paste if only done once. Great video again.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thank you.

[@thejoebaxi3940]

Sorry, I’m really late to your videos. How long would you leave before emulsioning. I was told water based paint can reactivate the paste causing the paper to lift off the walls

[@andrewmcgeorge7820]

Use a caulking board and a snap off blade knife. Bin the putting on brush

[@jamesmcconnon2]

There will be plenty of papers that you absolutely could not use a caulking blade. Ditching your brush is a bad idea.

[@ronchambers8397]

Although now I'm thinking the paper is wider than the table?

[@spencercolgan]

Nice job!

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thank you.

[@spencercolgan]

17:45 excellent point.

[@darrenyates1745]

Great video again mate I always use 1400 grade

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thanks, it is good for butting up.

[@TB-em4qk]

So how do I book you ?

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Sorry no details.

[@iank8498]

If you are cross lining ready for wallpaper do you leave a small gap or do you still butt the joints right up together? Cheers Ian

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Still better to butt up best you can although a fine gap is ok.

[@pennyduncan5980]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thanks, your welcome.

[@spencercolgan]

Your elbows and my knees mate!

[@johnparr5879]

Old school is the... Best.... School *

[@spencercolgan]

You seem like a real pro. A choleric temperament for sure, but a real pro.

[@phillcom3]

thanks for teaching me a new word today!

[@2010gtoner]

My elbows are starting to give me gip also, though I think cortisone is really only a quick fix and can do damage to bone stuff in the long run, seen new titanium elbows on eBay, but the skitters don't post to N Ireland, lolll So back to the awful pain, lol,good job

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Thank you, sorry to hear about your pain..... it's horrible. I've gone dairy free and it's made a big difference to my pain almost healed now.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Sorry for late reply.

[@2010gtoner]

@@PaintingandDecorating Interesting.

[@2010gtoner]

took on board with advice from my family and you know, it is interesting the dairy thing that worked for yourself, thank God good man It worked for you are what would we do,lolll x .mind you made an appointment... 4 WEEKS TO SEE MY GP@@PaintingandDecorating

[@PaintingandDecorating]

@@2010gtoner I've had both elbows ulnar nerve entrapment ops, seam to have worked well. Also one injection for golfers elbow and two injections for tennis elbow. But I like painting everything has settled down for me at the minute. Hope you get yourself sorted.

[@yvonfem]

Stanley blades are best the snappable throw away type much less hastle

[@Richard-so5lf]

Olfa black are best mate

[@garvielloken3929]

Brilliant

[@theodorcosminvoicu9240]

Hello, For tendonitis, you can use CBD oil for pains. Is from cannabis and is medical proved to work. You csn try 5% strenght from Holland and Barrett. Hope it will help!

[@PaintingandDecorating]

All sorted thanks cortisone injection.

[@mrfix-it2728]

Magnolia is so yesterday (dated) pale Grey's are the new magnolia.

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Well it's all down to personal choice really. Depends if your a sheep

[@andybrace4983]

Grey all day

[@vikaandr.1215]

Super

[@rigsbyL1]

Nice video.... But why does a young fella like you work in feet and inches? I'm 62 and have been using cm and meters since 1971 when my junior school took away our wooden imperial rulers and gave us plastic metric rulers😂

[@PaintingandDecorating]

That will be learning from my dad. 👍 Thanks

[@growtyme3039]

Have you ever thought of putting marks every 6 inches on your table to save using the tape measure saves a fair bit of time throughout the day

[@PaintingandDecorating]

I have a six foot mark bend back at that.. then measure the rest with the tape. Every room and measurement can be different it needs to be marked every inch if your going to mark it stick to my tape. Every finish paper I line my bench first then add six foot mark.

[@johnparr5879]

Do I detect a... Liverpool accent.....?

[@andrewanderson816]

Nice of them to empty the room ready for you coming

[@PaintingandDecorating]

It's a customer my dad got years ago and she was happy for me to work for her when my dad retired. Sadly she went to better suited accommodation as she was unable to get about. So the house was empty and was being sold.

[@noelgshadow]

Rough wall that...

[@nickyhennessy5463]

You don't butt joint lining paper

[@blairarcher8952]

Never use Linning paper anymore .Only use " wall rock " much better finish and fly's up .

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Don't like it really find it can cause problems.

[@yvonfem]

Wolf craft not very good I find stanley the best blades and irwin are OK blades are much quicker than scissors

[@davidsmalley4468]

Why not use a paste machine absolute doodle

[@PaintingandDecorating]

Just one more thing to break and clean out at the end of the day. I am a pasting machine.

[@DarrenVelSatis]

nice but stop working in feet and inches

[@ascno1970]

Why do you still wear biv n brace? I am a painter/decorator of more than 30 yra experience & wear englebert strauss trousers, so much nicer to work with & more freedom to stretch when painting ceilings, cutting in tops of walls, paperhanging & so on, would never go back to bib n brace , the straps used to dig into shoulders or clips would snap on straps 😡

[@PaintingandDecorating]

where do you put your paperhanging brush?

[@ascno1970]

In back pocket lol , i very rarely use a paperhanging brush tbh , only on textured papers, lincrusta ( very rarely ) or delicate papers , more of a snap off knife / muraspec board man

[@PaintingandDecorating]

@@ascno1970 if that works great.

[@jz3953]

Sorry, but you need a better camera.

[@Superdec-r9p]

There wasnt no butt joining at all in his video the gaps betweem your lining was wider than the gap in my teeth this is definitely how not to hamg lining paper in my 30 years experience And most definitely not the way to trim paper is with a pair or shears Well yours was scissors not shears Never paste up to your plum lined ceiling line either wow Oh well

[@gordoncunningham6650]

This guy hasnt got a clue,cant even paste properly,

[@tomtreacy1545]

How about you derescribe or show us your technique ?? Put up or shut up !!

[@StephenSmith-vs8hr]

Does it matter what way you put the lining paper up if you're just going to paint it please.