How to Buy a Rolex (Beat the System!) | Watchfinder & Co.

[@watchfinder]

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[@reverb508]

My problem with the Cellini is that its price puts it in competition with high horology dress pieces from brands like Patek and Vacheron. If given the choice between a Cellini and a Calatrava, there's no contest. If Rolex put out a steel Cellini and priced it at around $7000, I think there'd be a lot more buyers.

[@AndreMonz]

For sure! At 7k would be a great investment but I wouldn't resist but to buy a Omega De Ville Tresor with that budget.

[@poptart3598]

If that is your problem with the Cellini I wonder what you have with the new $17k Tudor BB58. Isn't it ridiculous it's more expensive than a Cellini Time?

[@reverb508]

@@poptart3598 if people want to pay that much for a Tudor, they can go for it . I think it's a cool looking watch, but I wouldn't pay that much for it, personally.

[@urieelSEptim]

it doesnt tick the boxes i expect in the high horology class. no hand finishing on the movement? same movement as the cheaper ones?

[@graciousideals1509]

I like the Cellini too and honestly? I'd like one as my first Rolex, but out of principle, I won't spend that much for a sparsely decorated movement. Especially not when watches like VC Patrimonies, PP Calatravas, ALuS Saxonia Thins, and Breguet Classiques occupy a similar price range. And it's not like Cellinis are hot ticket items like Submariners, GMTs OPs. Even if it says, "Rolex", it's not in demand like the steel sports models.

[@christopperlondel3318]

So there is a stockpile of Rolex Cellini in the Watchfinder catalogue.

[@TBLBill]

Maybe, maybe not. Either way, still a great video.

[@t28mcd]

Nailed it! 😂👍

[@ballsdeepinglory3054]

there are only 2 on the website

[@Pwwh0711]

Oooh cynical!

[@finnandrei5745]

An underrated Rolex. But this Cellini has something that other Rolexes don't have. It tells that this Cellini is more than just a status symbol, it is a well crafted watch.

[@WrongTimeWatch]

That is a good looking watch, even without the Rolex Crown.

[@TheTownWatch]

I agree!

[@WrongTimeWatch]

@@TheTownWatch Now I am looking for one of these used. I have not been a fan of this line of Rolex watches, but I have not seen this one before. Still out of my price range though.

[@TheTownWatch]

@@WrongTimeWatch Definitely a very dressy piece too!

[@nathanwayne6673]

Does Cellini have a bracelet option???.....I always wondered if they do 🤔

[@TheTownWatch]

@@nathanwayne6673 I don’t think so but I could be wrong.

[@Aggnog]

I'm not a fan of rolex as a brand but I've liked the cellini for being more under the radar than their mainstream models and always wondered why it's not more popular, but I think it just sits in a price range where it's too expensive for the average collector, and too low cheap for the high end one.

[@bloodline2ntfour]

It's the only rolex range I've ever liked

[@Eierfeile]

This and the fact it has to compete against other dressers of more desirable watch brands like Patek in that price range

[@humanbeing1675]

Even a Cellini isn't cheap. Almost all (if not all) of them are made in precious metal. But I have to say I like the understated design..

[@Masonrytodger]

The vintage ones are cheap look on eBay but definitely the new ones are somewhat overpriced cause if it was in the 8,000-10,000 price range I’d think there would be more buyers

[@amaanjawed1060]

This guy is a businessman at heart. He knows how to sell a watch👏🏻

[@thisisnothere14]

If I were to buy a Cellini, i'd totally get the moonphase one in rose gold! I love that watch!

[@roysingh5975]

I wish you over a million subscribers. One of the most opinionated host. Funny and informative. We love your dry humor.

[@cicoman3810]

I am sorry but a Cellini is not doing it for me, I would rather buy a VC patrimony or Patek calatrava, even a Breguet classique or you know what an IWC and even a JLC would give me more or make me feel like I own some proper piece of metal...

[@ABC-fl8zb]

Even at 25% of RRP it's still overpriced compared to what you can get in the dress watch category at 9k preowned

[@conradjohnathan7236]

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[@joeltrevor3257]

@Conrad Johnathan flixportal :)

[@conradjohnathan7236]

@Joel Trevor thanks, I signed up and it seems like a nice service :D I really appreciate it !

[@joeltrevor3257]

@Conrad Johnathan Happy to help =)

[@lepetitsuisse17]

Unfortunately, it is not a bargain. For that money, you can get a Lange & Söhne 1815 or Saxonia, a Parmigiani Fleurier Toric, a JLC Master Control, all in gold. Or a Glashütte Original or Omega for less...

[@sebby911]

Well I've been loving mine for 5 years now... terrific watch! And spot on about the retro look! 👌

[@Valks-22]

I'm curious, among us watch enthusiasts of all kinds that follow this channel. How many of you are/would/have a Rolex for the appeal of and interest in the watch itself? I find it more and more when people speak of them it's always 'investment' or 'it will increase in value by X in 5 years' or something else and usually delegated to a safe or an unopened box waiting to be sold at a profit years later. For a long time now and due to the average person I've come across who owns one in my country they are a mere shallow status symbol, especially the full golden ones which I just find tacky and kitsch as all hell. Not saying I know hundreds of people who own them but with those who do seeing them out and about on social events or business is extremely rare. One day with life priorities on track, I'd love to own the Explorer - enjoy and wear it as other pieces I own but this would be a purchase with no regard to resale or 'residual value' unless said life takes a horrible turn where I'd have to sell it for other reasons.

[@lemnisgate8809]

The Moon phase is gorgeous.

[@TheRealMafoo]

I could see Watchfinder saying to this guy: "you are getting a bit full of yourself. Can you sell the unsellable?".. "Sure, what's this!"

[@Gzeroy]

That is one hell of a beautiful professional gentleman's watch for any age!

[@decotYT]

Is it just me, or does the fact that the hands are finished so well that they show the lack of finish on the underside of the seconds hand (0:21) via reflection kind of disappointing?

[@azizbueshi3601]

I love the Cellini especially dual time

[@pranavkarol]

That's a beautiful video description as beautiful as the watch itself. Honestly thinking of buying one after watching this!

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

Well you haven’t bought it yet? It’s still for sale on the website. 2017 model With a 2014 white dial version more money.

[@AndreasGeorgiades]

"Best Rolex Bargain" is the Rolex your rich father gives you.

[@alihaider552]

even if its a datejust dual tone

[@danmccall8446]

Thanks for “exploring” dad

[@stuartcole4845]

If your dad bought the Rolex when he was younger, he wouldn’t have had to be “rich” - they are disproportionately way more expensive now, even accounting for inflation. Think of Tudor now - a bit pricey, but attainable for a much larger percentage of people. That’s the Rolex of 15+ years ago.

[@AndreasGeorgiades]

@@stuartcole4845 Sure, same way I have my father's and grandfather's Omegas. I was mostly talking about contemporary "gifts" like a graduation gift and the like.

[@lukerabin5079]

In 1970 a submariner was about 5 times more expensive than a top end Seiko diver.

[@juliomedina5446]

Regular Rolex prices have us considering Cellinis now? That’s rough :/

[@josephile]

My local AD is completely out of Men's Rolex of any kind, except this exact one in Rose Gold. It has been there for months and it has yet been sold.

[@stasg4558]

I don't think i would ever be able to afford it but it's the first rolex i actually like

[@voltgaming2213]

Never thought you would say , "woha whoa" in your professional out channel

[@panaceiasuberes6464]

The only non-lazy Rolexes are the Sky-Dweller and the Yacht-Master II. The first is an amazing complication with a yet-to-be-beaten movement endurance. The second is the best mechanical regatta timer in the world since it allows you to jump to the next interval without resetting the countdown. All the other ones? Easily reproduced by sweatshops in the Shenzhen area.

[@H0kram]

Playing the modest man to connect with the audience, all while talking about buying a Rolex for a graduation, is quite a feat.

[@Mahhsio]

He probably graduated 10-15 years ago as an engineer. He could’ve been working during his studies, if he set out on day 1 to purchase a watch after he graduates he could’ve most likely saved enough money to purchase a Rolex back then.

[@dexon555]

Do you use a Sony camera? You’ve got dust spots on your sensor.

[@champstation143]

It surely is a nice watch but it is not a design icon like the Sub or DJ and that is why it is not selling above the MSRP.

[@kwong7058]

4.56 min- the underside of the second isn't polished; Grand Seiko at 1/2 the price do polish theirs, and Japanese labour ain't exactly cheap.

[@markymark3572]

I thought Cellini straight away when I saw the title b4 I'd even watched the video. Along with the Air King & perhaps the Oyster Perpetual, depending on the dial colour combo u would like 4 the latter, the only Rolex u will find in stock at your local Rolex AD...

[@ManVsWatch]

It’s a very beautiful piece. Discreet and classic but perfect for me. Very nice video !

[@sauravsingh-mu9ib]

Airking and cellini only Rolex I would love to own❤️

[@milosglisovic6614]

Rolex and bargain cant stand in same sentence.

[@hags2k]

“Can you tell I’m bitter?” No, no I can’t.

[@rzezniqq]

Rolex - another brand who doesn't finish the underside of hands. That's just poor attention to detail.

[@macoyupadoodle]

I feel the same about Rolex as a brand and Cellini Model ..........but im not a precious metal type person , and wished those roman numerals were applied markers . The 50 meters WR is ok for a dress (just as long it can take a quick dunk)

[@Rickenbacker325]

Oh no, these are going to go crazy now 🤣

[@StuntpilootStef]

That's the whole reason this channel exists....

[@chronounique5947]

No worries they won’t go up. This watch will not generate the hype other models have

[@Boltwin89]

@@chronounique5947 Man, Rolex. Just need to make sapphire case back for Cellini and people would go crazy

[@accord536]

Not a fan of Rolex, but the Cellini is an exception! A beautiful time piece 😍😍😍

[@markyoung01maccom]

Agreed I love the Cellini line

[@olivieraubin4975]

I think maybe i’m the only one in the world, but i realy like the Cellini Prince...

[@steviedj6730]

100%. For me it would be the relatively modern rose gold. What puts me off is id wear it for black tie and that's about it. Once every 5 years ...

[@dinonugget7114]

Yeah you are the only one xD

[@olivieraubin4975]

@@dinonugget7114 😂

[@theVhin]

I died on how you correlate an Ex-girl friend with watches. 🤣🤣🤣

[@ExpeditedProductions]

I think Rolex should give you the watch of your choice for helping them sell the Cellini.....while I get your point, it seems to me that your logic is....I want a Rolex, but I can’t justify or afford the ones I like because they cost too much, so I am going to get the Rolex that no one cares about and I don’t really want/like just so I can have a Rolex (but all the while I will have to be running around -in my own head at least - screaming BUT SEE I HAVE A ROLEX TOO!). Far simpler solution...realize that Rolex is no where near justifiable at its price, that it no longer serves its designed purpose ( as a useful tool) - no one uses a 24k gold hammer, and there are far better (build and utility) options out there. If you want to spend money on marketing so you can fit a trend....do so but get what you really want....not the one that NO ONE WANTS....well that very few want. Wear what you love. Be well. Thanks for the video!

[@enriqueparedespinel1694]

A couple of Celinis have been collecting dust In the store far to long, they have to move them. Goodlooking watch none the less.

[@wohltemper]

You can get a whole range of case designs in used Cellini models from $2000 upwards. Some are downright odd, a few are quite stunning. Seems they went a bit off piste with the designs in the 80s and 90s, like Omega did with the constellation in the 70s

[@royleow]

no thanks will get my Seiko Presage Cocktail Time

[@horologywatchmaking13]

Nice try bringing 'Rolex','bargain','value for money' together but this ain't going to work out. Cheers.

[@brunonjezic6208]

What is with the solid gold stepped lugs Rolex chronographs from real art deco 30s. I hope there will be a video of those... They went to luxury with it back there

[@morten170]

Like it better in White dial. Make it with Sapphire backcase and you Will a winner.

[@hankim6576]

Tanks for the review! Could you review some Blancpain dress watches like 6605?

[@covfefe8971]

Now that is a Rolex you wear with a suit, especially a bespoke, not a bloody tool watch.

[@crockett888]

beautiful minimalistic time piece! Hope to own a rolex cellini one day.

[@Marshbam00]

The finishing on the underside of the seconds hand at 0:21 is really, really bad! Yikes

[@christopherliang6879]

Well for 3k more you can get the saxonia thin which has a much more beautiful movement. This would be a good buy if the RRP was another 20 percent lower.

[@stanbernadino]

This guy is the Jeremy Clarkson of Watch reviewers...that’s a compliment

[@Greybacco]

I am currently on a waitlist for a submariner 41 with no purchase history. I am going to tell you all, my feeling that patience is part of my life but when it comes to what i love keeps on bugging me whether or not i will get it or otherwise i am going to give only until July. If the watch never comes in any chance i am totally to give up on this brand. I just want to share my feelings that i got no one around me that truly love horology and doesnt know how it feels 😆

[@londonsfynest]

You're not going to receive a hype piece like a submariner without any history, not by July, not by 2025

[@syniekos]

Wow ! It could be the ultimate dress watch ! It's an absolute beauty !

[@sebastianrutkowski7316]

classy watch. classy channel.

[@BHNEOH]

It's a beautiful watch indeed, just not as much admired as the other sport model. Do you think the second hand can do with a longer length that extends beyond the hour and minute hands? Always enjoyed your reviews. Double thumbs up.

[@sayharris1361]

I’m sure it’s not a very popular watch but I have got a strange fascination with Graham watches🤦🏽‍♂️ The one with the incredibly large crown and hook and also the swordfish

[@vishalkalra2431]

Lot of respect for you Sir & the channel, but i beg to disagree here, the Omega Deville Tresor is a better bargain in my humble opinion

[@paulparker4240]

That is the most beautiful Rolex I've ever seen. As a lifelong Seiko Diver's owner I sincerely doubt I'll ever anything finer then my Presage but if I could, I certainly would. Hoping you do... keep us apprised.

[@niemago]

I have a request to the author of the film, who talks about watches and their advantages. Please compare this Rolex Cellini M50509-0006 on display with the Glashutte Original Senator Chronometer. . Please forget about ornaments, water splashes and coffee makers in these watches. Which of these two watches is mechanically better, which is more durable, more reliable, nothing more?

[@alexsystems2001]

How did you go from a Jr Engineer to doing watch videos on KZbin? That’s awesome!

[@ekapris7880]

It is a beautiful watch, but for that amount I would go for a VC or even for less a JLC. For high end watches I would definitely opt for an ion case as you pay also for appreciation a decorated and high finish movement. Maybe if it had an open back case with a high decorated movement maybe... Unfortunately is competing with a lot of other great watches with a heavy heritage as well. Otrhewise, yes I agree no one should pay over the official price. Still glad I bought my GMT II before the sky rocketing of prices :)

[@MrRoyck10]

The whole Rolex hype cannot be associated with the word bargain rather the Rolex bubble, I was lucky enough to have picked up my two preferred Rolex models before Rolex zombies became prevalent. Simply put, Rolex at its current price point is a bubble and not a bargain, I will not even contemplate buying Rolex at today’s price.

[@azed1685]

Old girlfriend vibe from Rolex for sure. I agree w this take on Cellini. Great vid

[@maxim29672]

Likely same quality as gold Longines. For 2-3 K would be a good buy.

[@GeeBeeMike]

I love Longines watches but please…….get real!

[@xx1j]

I don't understand why the Cellini has a sealed back. It really bothers me.

[@henrycollins2478]

I love the Cellini line

[@barfymann362]

I've been amazed by JLC, they've made a fan out of me. That really is my grail, to own a JLC Reverso.

[@st1tch87]

I have a duo face and its my favorite piece in my collection, I have 2 IWC's, a GP, a vintage Cellini and some entry level luxury pieces like a Cartier tank. My Reverso is almost always my go to watch.

[@balance3201]

Yes🥰

[@MERKAMGCLK]

Do it. I own a Reverso 976. Absolutely stunning time piece. JLC Exceptional watches all.

[@barfymann362]

@@st1tch87 Hello, thank you for your comment. If you might be able to assist me on this matter, since I don't live near a boutique and cannot try on the watch. The JLC I'm looking at is around 45x27, primarily because I prefer the Date Complication and they only have a few options that offer the complication, however in a larger case size. I currently wear a Cartier Tank Solo XL, which sits nicely on my wrist (I have small writs). That's really my primary worry before buying, since I won't be able to try the watch - especially due to travel restrictions. Do you think the larger case size would be suitable for a 6.25" wrist? Thank you!

[@barfymann362]

@@MERKAMGCLK Hello, thank you for your comment. If you could kindly assist me, I'm looking to purchase a Reverso with a date complication - however, they tend to be in the larger case size. Since the Reverso 976 is in a larger case dimension, do you think it would be suitable for a smaller wrist size? Around 6.25" for me. Thank you.

[@yoroshikune08]

wow, the underside of the second hand are really poorly finish.... how sneaky of them.

[@williamrappard823]

Great video and commentary as usual ! Many thanks ! Might consider a Cellini sometimes as the design also grows on me. Have a feature request though. A beautiful ugly little duck from Omega: the Constellation Manhattan Hybrid chronograph ref. 1542.40 from the late nineties. A sleek little mecaquartz chronograph powered by a little known but high end and well decorated movement, the Piguet/Omega 1270, which allows for a thin and perfectly proportioned case and an equally impressive dial layout. At about 2k in NOS condition, it's maybe the best kept secret in the highly popular integrated bracelet market.

[@user-wi9nn6dz8w]

...or you could just realise that there are many other brands at a similar price point and just get past Rolex.

[@jebbush2527]

If I were to get a watch right now I’d get this or the an omega de ville

[@KC-bv9kf]

There in lies the problem with Rolex, AP, PP et al. A lot of owners are afraid to wear them because of speculation. It’s like having a Ferrari and can only drive it to weekend coffee shop parking lot meets. Watches are very personal markers of time, and like those trusty trucks/cars that waited to take us home after a long difficult day, they are dependable witnesses to important times in our lives (unless they’re Brits’ :). Got my gmt2 18years ago on my first anniversary and wore it at least 2 x/w. Many memories. Haven’t worn it much since divorce, but I will never sell it. It’s naive of me to even think this, but it’s disappointing that many of these companies make very little real effort to let us “come home again”.

[@pederlindstrom3132]

Hello from Sweden again. Now that is a Rolex I could actually see myself wearing.

[@josephile]

Had to ask: but is this the Rolex you would buy with your own money?

[@pederlindstrom3132]

@@josephile not at the moment but otherwise yes I would.

[@AandCMusic]

Samma. Men jag synes at det kan vara lite svårt att hitta den.

[@josephile]

@@AandCMusic Not really, though. My local AD has one sitting there for months now and no one wants it. Mind you that my local AD is completely out of Rolex on all other models.

[@pederlindstrom3132]

@@AandCMusic det är nog inte helt enkelt att hitta en sådan och jag gissar att den kostar därefter också.

[@kuongsam2314]

why the watch hands are so short

[@minusED]

Agree on roman numerals

[@nikhilna5095]

This might be my favorite Rolex, yet the pricing on it is shocking. If over looked why is it more costly than Rolex oyster. Is there a significant history on why this watch is as costly as it is?

[@rumatadestora]

A bargain? For 12-15k apiece, hardly

[@deparoo]

I like it too but more sensible is to get a datejust or an OP.

[@arcadium86]

Thanks for your awesome videos!!! Would be possible to have one day a review of the Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece MP7108-SS001-110??

[@JonathanShidler]

That.... That was a very specific example there...

[@cinemenico]

I'm familiar with the Cellini. But... just not interested. Not too keen on dress watches and roman numerals. This one doesn't manage to win me over either. I'd rather go with vintage... Rolex Air-King Precision 34 Ref.5500 in blue would be my pick to add a Rolex to the collection.

[@Valera_Scotland]

36mm Explorer? Why not You can even get the older 114270 for around 6-7k, or find a way to get the new one... beautiful

[@dimman77]

0:20 the underside of the seconds hand. Yikes...

[@steffydog]

Very nice piece

[@janihellberg6911]

If Rolex would reinvent the cellini line and bring back the triple date moonface watches ect. they used to make back in the day, that would elevate the cellini line to another dimention.

[@earthgirl7267]

This is a elegant timepiece. Simplistic and classy. I like it as well. ⌚🙌

[@Shreedhar_Shukla]

The term affordable really wasn't for me lol. Yeahh "the Rolex style bargain". I need to have this, actually I must have this. I never liked Rolexes if not the status symbol factor but for this, bye bye status symbol

[@aristes1880]

Watchfinder, while I appreciate and value the effort you put into your videos, I find this title to be misleading. I think it is impudent, and it disappoints me.

[@amcluesent]

I see 39mm Explorer I and now more expensive than Explorer II 16570. Madness. May as well just speculate in Bitcoin.

[@VegasMilgauss]

Watchfinder has a few to shift one feels

[@lawrencewaite4407]

Thanks for reminding me that I sold my rolex president years ago 5,000 pounds

[@Imaveryniceguy]

What do you mean, we didn't know about? Of course we knew. We just don't like it.

[@stoiankirezov8532]

It would be interesting if Rolex made it in stainless steel and bumped it up to 100 metres if it would make it a sells success. I actually would say vintage Cellini is the real bargain. Especially reference 3807 and 4122. Both have the calibre 1601 so it want be problematic to service plus you can find reference 4122 with a wooden dial which you would pay handsomely on a Day Date. Please do a Reservoir jumping hours or any of the Ressence watchs 🙏.

[@jlw3306]

This is the only Rolex i really like!