How to clean your Electric Skateboard Motor - Hub Motor and Out runner Motor Koowheel Evolve

[@MurrayEstes]

Good video I'm thinking about starting to ride an electric skateboard. Back in the 70s we skated in San Diego and where the first to ride pools.... I'm 63 but I still skateboard around Hawaii and it might be time to think about electrical skateboard....aloha, konaboyz

[@JoeKyser]

Tell you its like a dream come true to me. I feel like im snowboarding the streets. Im a surfer, skater and snowboarder. This is electric skateboard shit is awesome. Oahu is where Im from by the way. My family is there still but I live in New Jersey. I dont think an electric skateboard would disappoint. Oh i grew up with a concrete pool that dad drained and painted every year. It had a great big old bowl in it with a ledge and all. Good times good times. I wish i could find the old videos.

[@TBSCcreeper]

I have the Wowgo 2S Max and when i take off the sleeves for my hub motors, i can see some of the PU from the wheels are kind of melted onto the motors which is causing it to jam whenever I ride my board. Any idea on how to clean this?

[@JoeKyser]

I am not sure I understand. Send me some photos thebrokerscollection gmail

[@pico_sandoval]

Do you also use that electronic cleaner on the hub bearings as well?

[@JoeKyser]

You can because they are sealed. It will clean it up nice so there is nothing left behind to contaminate the electric motor. Thats when issues arise and thats why they seize. People often think its the bearing but its usually not.

[@pico_sandoval]

@@JoeKyser Roger that. Tomorrow I'll be on my way to get a can of that stuff immediately. I haven't cleaned my motor since I bought this board 3 years ago and I've been hearing funny sounds from the motor intermittently and today one of the Wheels stopped working but then it worked again. I really don't know what's going on I checked the cable & they look fine but I'm going to take everything apart and clean it out good like you illustrate in the video

[@JoeKyser]

@@pico_sandoval electrical parts cleaner will be your best friend. Clean all of your electronics with it if if you want. Controller, or whatever. Its all good. It will help keep the life of the motor stable thats for sure. I also have a video somewhere about what's that clicking noise. There are several reasons you may get that. It's good that you recognize that it's making a difference sound though this way you can address it at the very least before it gets worse. I've worked on a lot of skateboards where the people never stopped and took the time and then beyond that there was so much damage they had to replace the motors

[@matts.8356]

Nice video man, one quick suggestion, you might wanna post the end result after the cleaning/painting

[@JoeKyser]

Well the end results usually just a comtinied smooth ride. This ismt a repair, its a maintenance. Very important to understand that. I should have been more clear

[@dissonant__]

Do you know how to hydrate my hub wheels? They have cracks due to dirt

[@JoeKyser]

I don't know. Usually it comes down to reolacing them. They are made if urethane. I really don't have any good suggestions

[@millennioustv7421]

I cant seem to find the specific spray is there an EU althernative a realy dry spray i dont wanna break skateboard with the wring spray I hope to hear feom you soon awesome video by the way totaly gonna need it when i have spray and go tinqering

[@JoeKyser]

It's also called contact cleaner. Im not sure what brands the EU has.

[@dragonknight5007]

Hey I have a question I'm trying to figure out whats wrong with my e-board. It turns on, but doesn't run. I did purchase a new controller that worked fine and is hobbywing tech. It stopped one day, but was able to jump start it my putting it to charge but now it won't run but connects fine.. some help would be appreciated.

[@JoeKyser]

Do you have electrical testers?

[@dragonknight5007]

@@JoeKyser I don't

[@JoeKyser]

@@dragonknight5007 well I mean we can guess some things. I dont know what jump start the controller means. Tell me more about this.

[@dragonknight5007]

I meant jump started the board to get it running by putting it to charge. It is a wowgo s2

[@dragonknight5007]

I disconnected everything the wiring looks fine I just can't get into the hub motors to see further if those wires are ok

[@touch415NE]

great video bruh, I've learn a lot from your vids....thanks man

[@JoeKyser]

+Tone Touch oh thats awesome. That's why they are here. I had way too much live and learn experience here with esk8. I'm glad you can take something from it

[@touch415NE]

Joe Kyser awesome brotha... you help me a lot 👊🏼

[@brucetseng170]

This will fix the wheel slip problem?

[@JoeKyser]

Wheel slip? On a hub motor?

[@brucetseng170]

Joe Kyser yes. My hub motor one wheel stop faster than the other one. Idk what should I do. One motor take longer to stop spinning. What should I do about it? Do you think is motor problem or I need to clean it?

[@crazyworldofk-2th894]

Hey man, I just got an H5 from Teamgee, its hub driven, would this work for cleaning the model I have?

[@JoeKyser]

I was not familiar with the model but just looked it up. It seems to be a similar maintenance scheme. I would say just be careful when opening it. There are usually small wires there that can break easily. Also there will be natural wear and sounds will change. It doesn't mean all the time that the motor is bad or dirty. Maintenance cant hurt though. I have quality motors that years old and had plenty of use that still work good. The junk has been junk and not much you can do about that. At the very least you can crack them open and apart a little bit and then spray up into and let it run out to get all the dust and all that accumulated in it.

[@Th3_W01f]

At what point would you say that one should replace the motor, for example my board have a mileage of around 700 miles, and I'm definitely starting to notice that the motors are getting very noisy, at this point do you think it would be a better idea just to replace the motors all together?

[@JoeKyser]

Dam I am so sorry. I am just now seeing this. Sometimes there are so many comments, I miss them. Get any insight to that question since?

[@Th3_W01f]

@@JoeKyser No worries at all, can't imagine it being easy to keep up. I've taken a good long look at my motors, and think it might be time to change them, the wheels have been rattling a lot, and it turns out that the metal lips that connect the wheel part to the hub motors are starting to shear off, I tired inserting some steel wire to replace the missing metal, and it worked for a while until the wire started to compress and the rattling began again. but after almost 1200 miles I'm pretty satisfied with the lifespan of the motors If I'm being honest. and the battery is also getting to a point where it needs to be switched out, so I might even go for a new more "Up-to-date" board.

[@JoeKyser]

@@Th3_W01f i know exactly what you are saying. Yeah the batteries slowly but surely lose the ass behind them too. Ive spent so much momey on boards its ridiculous. I also use them like there's no tomorrow. Some motors are made way better than others too. I have motors I haven't been able to ruin if I tried. Others that went crap on me just after weeks of ridimg. Like completely fall apart.

[@marangaabraham6024]

Awesome vidz cuz!!!

[@Wesleycooks]

Another great video 👍

[@noafoucault6191]

What do you consider a significant difference?(For the difference for the time each motor takes to stop.

[@JoeKyser]

Seconds. There can be lag in any specific motor at any given time for a number of reasons but for the most part they should both slow and stop at the same time. If not it could be a sign there is an issue or one arising

[@TheAETHER22]

This vid is 2 years old but could someone help me please with cleaning my hub motors? I have a meepo nls pro ~200miles old and i recently noticed that both motors have friction as they stop faster than when i got the board new.. Plus 1 wheel stops even faster than the other. I hear no cracking noise which means there's no major debris inside the hub but it could be rusty thus the friction... So i went and bought 3 WD-40s, a contact cleaner, a silicone lubricant and an anti rust. I assume according to your video i have to remove the cap, clean the coil with the contact cleaner, then the bearing with the lubricant and the metal part before the cable with the anti rust? I know im not supposed to spray antirust on the bearing.. But would it be okay if it touched the cable or make damage? The cap and the bearing could use i assume silicone spray... Please help me :/

[@JoeKyser]

No problem at all. I still work on boards and monitor my comments. Worst case I dont see a reply ot just better yet email me. [e-mail] Anyway that would be best. Just copy this and paste it into an email and give me some pictures too. I will let you know what I think the best way to go about maintence

[@TurboTheTerrier]

How bout a dry lube? Is that ok?

[@JoeKyser]

Something like graphite right? It may work alright. Its just used on sealed bearings to reduce friction between them and its base. So its bot noisey you know

[@mercadeztrujillo5784]

Can u just use DW-40

[@JoeKyser]

No you don't want the oil residue that it leaves. That attracts dirt and grime. Electronic parts cleaner evaporates all off so it leaves nothing behind

[@robstoltz9752]

I bet the person who down voted doesn't even have an electric skateboard. These instructions must not have worked on their electric masturbater.

[@JoeKyser]

+Rob Stoltz no no I have a troll that claims my videos are no good but they go to it every time I don vote doesn't mean anything that actually adds relevancy to the video it means people are watching in their engaging so it doesn't really matter to me honest. I'll let you in on a little something, my videos that make the most money have the most thumbs down. thanks anyway after I did this I went right on Instagram and I showed the motors how they work I think they work better than new now I'm about to put these on an electric skateboard today for quick updates always follow me on Instagram

[@JoeKyser]

+Rob Stoltz oh and that was funny as hell

[@markd.8885]

any chance for a teardown of the koowheel d3m gen 2 hub? i cant figure out how to get the 2 motor pieces separated

[@JoeKyser]

i wish i could tell you i will post it but im so busy right now. I will have to take a look at it and see if i know what you mean

[@markd.8885]

its more separating the outer part from the center of the motor. ive removed the screws but the motor is still in 1 piece. :( so i dont know if i need to print something so that the center part can be forced through with even pressure or not.

[@JoeKyser]

@@markd.8885 ok i just looked, couldn't remember. Take the screws out the back side and pull. The magnet is strong and try to keep it together. Once all the screws are out on the backside you should be good to go

[@markd.8885]

yeah ive tried that and still no luck, so im printing a tool to help me push out the center of the motor.

[@JoeKyser]

@@markd.8885 ya the magnets are strong as hell, no doubt.

[@markAD666]

Is it possible to burn a hub motor out? Mine makes a really loud noise when riding and doesn’t hit the top speed. The battery also drains a lot faster

[@JoeKyser]

Mark Demarsico yes. The copper winding inside are coated with a very thin layer of plastic like material. When that gets compromised, maybe rubbed or dirt grinding on it or even heat, it is "burnt out". That one may have an issue like that. Creating more drag draini the battery fast

[@esk8jaimes]

Did you just spray paint your truck bushings...?

[@JoeKyser]

Probably, usually paint over the old ones and then just replace them. Paint won't stick to bushings. Well I doubt it would. Maybe some exopy might. It's a skateboard though. Wont stay that way for long

[@albertrobinson6018]

Hey brotha im glad I found this vid! I just got a raptor 2 with dual Focboxes so an earlier gen for sure. You have any info or experience with these? I got it for a steal and ive always wanted one not knowing all the problems they had. The motors tend to make a grinding or Braking sound when i first start off...hence why i googled lubricating hub motors. It came with a pair of extra used motors one of which ive already changed out. After a hard ride this morning in light rain on hilly terrain it started that sound again....any insight would be awesome!

[@JoeKyser]

I do have experience with them. Im going to be making some videos actually. Well i have them made a d scheduled for upload. Your questions are good and I will use it to make more content with the raptors. I have a couple of raptor 2s currently. There are a lot of underlying problems. Ones that could strike anytime. The motors will make noises on them. Mine sound like popcorn machines sometimes. Enertion actually said once they break in they will be noisy. Hmmmm right? Ive torn down one and can bring that to youtube. Theres interesting design flaws for sure. As far as the noise from them, it could be a sign of something and may nit be. Its tough because i have what seems to be healthy motors but make some sounds thats for sure

[@nicofish1000]

Have you ever done a teardown of an inboard manta drive motor?

[@JoeKyser]

No I'm sorry never did that one specifically

[@nicofish1000]

@@JoeKyser Word thanks. I contacted them they said to blow it out with canned air. If it gives me any trouble ill try and dissasemble it.

[@JoeKyser]

@@nicofish1000 ya that's sounds good. I'd definitely try that first. Dirt and dust is killer.

[@coleelcome7437]

damn dude youre blowing my mind here, i never even thought of electronic cleaner! thats a thing? i just use a can air duster

[@marangaabraham6024]

Can you use wd40 to clean??

[@JoeKyser]

no, electrical parts cleaner. you can find it at an auto parts store. it dries clean and dries real real fast

[@marangaabraham6024]

Joe Kyser shit I already done it connected it but it’s still doing what it was doing making a stuffed up noise and the motor pretty much stops when I press break but the brake stays on????

[@JoeKyser]

That will attract more dirt and dust then you can shake a stick at. Brakes stay stuck on when you release? Are you sure that's not the remote getting hung up? Maybe make a couple short videos. You can send them to me on Instagram, facebook or just post it on KZbin. I will take a look and a listen. I would try and wash all that wd40 off. Thats not good for electrical parts at all

[@marangaabraham6024]

Joe Kyser check my page I uploaded short vid👍👍thanks for your time bro!!👍

[@JoeKyser]

Aw man I went back and watched this video again. I couldnt believe how in detail i went with what cleaner to use and where to get it. Did you watch it? : ) If you need help I can help but I need some video for sure.

[@RED89P13]

How many miles were on these before this happened

[@JoeKyser]

Before one motor slowed down a little more then the other? Shoot I have no idea. At this point I was the most active ESK8 rider in the world, logging anywhere from 10-20 miles a day. Maintence should be often and not based on how far it was used but taking into consideration where your riding and what kind of riding your doing. Maintence is just that anyway. The point of the video wasn't to show any kind of fixing because the board was used a lot. The motors could get dirty in the first use. Just be cognative that your riding on sensitive electronics. It's not as heavy duty as they want you to think. The motors do a pretty good job of keeping the junk out but they do get dirty. The drag is usually a sign of that. Thanks for watching

[@RED89P13]

Joe Kyser thanks for the info and replacement hubs from manufactures aren’t even that bad it’s like $50-80 per hub from what I’ve seen.

[@tylerallen9814]

Hey brotha thanks for this video. Ive tried your cleaning and maintenance tips and one of my motors is making a strange resistance type sound. At high speeds it makes a lous clicking. Ive watched most of your videos and am still at a loss. Whats your policy on sending boards to you to fix. I can pay. I just use mine for work so i need to figure this out asap. I might need to get a new motor. Hopefully not

[@JoeKyser]

Tyler Allen why would it comes to repairs the shipping always gets paid for by the customer both ways. then I only charge $20 an hour and won't charge if it's not something that got fixed so there's no consultation fee or anything like that. I also try to avoid taking things that I don't think can be fixed. or in a situation where it would cost just as much to have it fixed then it would to just replace the part. I can check on when I'll be getting my next shipment of parts in. it's never really that quick but I can definitely find out for you. I believe you'd have to replace that motor there from what it sounds like.

[@tylerallen9814]

Joe Kyser ok thanks brotha. Ill look into getting a new motor. May be cheaper anyways

[@tylerallen9814]

Joe Kyser do you have a personal email i can send you a quick video of whats going on

[@datruth9019]

Soooo you're not going to lube it up?🤔🤔🤔

[@JoeKyser]

Lube what? The bearings are sealed. Just the edge of them sometimes on some because then it stops the squeezing coming from the surface. Idk about lubing any electric motors. It's not something that's ever been called for in any of the motors I used.

[@jaimesmoran4136]

It'd be great if you could do a sequel video to this, showing how you clean all the different types of esk8 hub motors. There's barely any videos on this cleaning process...

[@JoeKyser]

I should your right. I have a few motors that need some tlc thats for sure. Good idea

[@esk8jaimes]

@@JoeKyser update?

[@JoeKyser]

Hey what's up man! Ah man I think some of the best times I had on KZbin was while I made esk8 videos. I should have made it is own channel. I had a business that was very demanding and then covid hit and just got me down. I have so many esk8 parts and so much knowledge. I wish I could just do this stuff everyday to be honest. The reality of it that I haven't touched any of it in a year. Well I lie. A guy from Instagram had messaged me for a repair that he couldn't figure out. Noisey motor that was Clicking and clunking. I fixed it in two minutes felt bad because I didn't do anything and didn't change him. I also let him pick the parts pile for a custom board he wanted to make. He made it and it's beautiful. He kind of sparked me up. Now you commented. The funny thing is I was watching esk8 videos all day I decided to check my notifications and bam here you are. I'd love to get back into this. I have a lot more in the shop now. Way more tools. A vinyl cutter, 3d printer, table saw, band saw, routers. Way more camera gear. The studio is a real studio. I have every reason to. What I would like to do is find a way back in. I genuinely like to help people and love robotics. I will pull some stuff out and make maintenance, cleaning motors, ect, a jumping off point

[@esk8jaimes]

@@JoeKyser There's always a place for altruistic videos in the Esk8 community! In fact, I was debating with someone over using WD40 contact cleaner (specifically designed for electronics) to clean hub motors with today. Hence, here I am!

[@JoeKyser]

@@esk8jaimes yeah you know the only way to really know some of this stuff is to do it. I understand all too well. There are so many times I turned to KZbin in order to eliminate that trial and error. Well winter has hit here and I'm going to be spending plenty of time in doors. I should jump in and have some fun. I can appreciate you stopping by. At this point it means a lot

[@vichaon]

Hey man, first of all big up for this vid, I've looked around finding something similar and all I found were people using wd40... I have a backfire g2s and id like to clean the motors with contact cleaner just how you demonstrated, but when it comes to get the outer part of the wheel off the actual motor, I'm afraid to use more force than I should. So my question is this: how hard do I need to pull to get these suckers off and am I going at it the right way? Your video is just not showing that one step I'm stuck at... Any advise? Peace out bro, great work you're doing

[@JoeKyser]

I have a video that shows how to take them off too. The magnets are strong. Pull hard as hell lol

[@vichaon]

@@JoeKyser hey man thanks for swift reply. Found what I needed. Top man.

[@JoeKyser]

That's what's up

[@Zac-oo8rh]

Can I send u mine to fix lol it's a nightmare 😢

[@NoahBailie]

you didnt show how to take it appart

[@JoeKyser]

I guess I could have shown all that. Its pretty self explanatory. Take the motor off the trucks. Now unscrew all the hex screws on the cap. Ok done. Thats it.

[@JoeKyser]

Oh dont forget its magnetic. It wont just fall apart. Pull the center out. It will be stuck to the outter casing thats full of magnets.

[@romanplusabunchofnumbers]

You dont even explain how to break it down. How to clean your new hub motor before install...

[@JoeKyser]

For this style you just take the screws off the cover and bam your done. Separate your pieces. I didn't think all that was necessary to be honest. If you want to see that I have another video. It's literally just a few screws though. Not much to it

[@VizioN-Scope]

Hey Joe Kyser. Thanks you so much for your video. Very helpful. I need your expert advice about what to buy of cleaners to fix my GTR motor. I live in Norway and we have some different names on cleaners. I can find WD-40. Is that good to use? and what else do I need?. I have an Evolve GTR motor that needs serious cleaning. one of my motors is making a really high pitch noise now after I got caught out in the rain a few days ago. I suspect moisture and dirt got inside, locking it up. The motor also stops randomly and gets a lot warmer than the other motor. The other motor is spinning fine. What do I need to buy? Here is what I can buy at my local store: www.clasohlson.com/no/Jernvare/Teip-og-kjemikalier/Sm%C3%B8remidler/c/2053

[@coleelcome7437]

you dont recommend opening these things up, why is that? I opened my evolve motor and accidentally ripped a wire off the board and had to re solder it lmao

[@JoeKyser]

+Cole Elcome i think you just began to explain why lol

[@SheSkates926]

:)