How to do a wheel alignment - toe and camber

Remember the badly worn rear tire in our last episode? In this video we show how to do a full wheel alignment on our Land Rover Discovery 3. The procedure also works on the LR4. It is not as easy as we make it look like in the video on such a heavy truck. Expect this to be a one to two day job.
We also created a easy to use Excel tie adjustment chart for download. See link below. Use this at your own risk.
Hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching.
Vera & Christian
Supplement information
Rear Camber adjustment bolts for LR Discovery 3
FEBEST 2929-005-KIT
Download link for the LR Time Excel calculator sheet
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0:00 Intro
4:41 Camber Tools
5:58 Tyre Pressure And Full Fuel Tank
6:33 Air Suspension Leveled
7:38 Parking Brake Off
10:16 The Theory
12:52 Calibrate Chinese Camber Tool to Zero
17:59 Rear Camber Bolt Adjustment
We are not liable for any harm you do to your car, your engine, your surroundings or to yourself. Use the information given in this video at your own risk. The videos we provide are primarily for entertainment and not to be used as instructions. Any products and spare parts we use in our videos are chosen by us and not provided by any sponsors. We do not recommend the parts we use in our videos as we mostly use Aftermarket low-cost brands due to cost.
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[@terrortorn]

Christian is the only man who comes home from work... and then gets changed into his work clothes.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅👍 he has an endless amount of energy🙋‍♀️Vera

[@benny353]

Another great video. Thankfully I own a Toyota, so I have enough spare time to watch all the videos 😂

[@toyotatim2521]

It does help doesn't it, plus we don't actually need to watch them so it's a form of Sunday relaxation

[@Vera_and_Christian]

The secret is, that we actually make the videos for Toyota drivers. Christian

[@johnanderson2432]

I don't know if I was more impressed with the home alignment process, or that motorized kid cart conversion!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Our motor bobbycar is definitely more impressive. 😅👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@the30Amechanic]

OMG I did a complete alignment myself on my 2005 LR3 with a professional John Bean rig while I was working at a repair shop. Needless to say it was a major pain in the ass to get everything within factory spec. What you did with that guetto rig setup is just amazing!!

[@baronridgeback]

OMG! After watching your videos for around 12 months now, I am hooked. I find myself looking forward to Sunday, not for Church (its been a while!), spending quality time with the wife, not even for the motor racing. No, now it is the next release of LR Time! I know, I really need to get out more, after all, I have an L322 to fix! Loving the information, presentation style and above all, the humour from you both. All very entertaining. Congratulations and role on the next 💯 videos! 👏GB

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Thanks. Next step would be to watch our videos at church on your phone. Latest then you should get some consoling. Appreciate your comment very much. Christian

[@Bimmly]

Really like the style, the humour and the information... congratulations guys on your 100th!! Here's to the next 100 :-)

[@davewilson5463]

Hi I’ve watched quite a few of your videos and you 2 are an amazing couple, love watching your videos keep up the great content 👍👍👌

[@BorellaFamilyAdventures]

Christian, when you're done futzing around with the Discovery, would you mind solving world hunger or something?

[@stephengill2211]

Morning lovely people. This was absolutely fascinating makes me glad I took my Toyota to the shop worth the 80 dollars I paid

[@MrFelix002]

Congratulations on your 100th video, I enjoy these very much

[@milandjukic3589]

Christian your the man ))) fantastic video and presentation and as usual always looking forward to seeing Christian and Vera at the weekend’s with their wonderful entertainment 😊🇬🇧❤️

[@rogerjeck9281]

Ha! Toe in...Toe out feels very homer simpson. Wow, 100 videos, that's awesome and keep up the fun work ~ Roger

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Thanks. Christian

[@morgansteele3158]

As a brick layer I can totally get down with using a line

[@jamiewalton23]

Guys, I don’t own a land rover but your videos are the best wish ,you had a old VW camper that would be better than a Toyota 🤩

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅Philipp wants a T2, but we can't drive them here anymore. Only with a historical license plate, and then only 6000km per year. But I really do want to get a van and build it up👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@NathanNostaw]

Normally i find these videos are focused on the average disco owner and are aimed at saving money, but the recomendation to have a full tank is just crazy. I just filled ours this morning and think I may need to take out a secnond mortage. $350 Aus on diesel and I haven't even bought the pvc conduit yet. :)

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Yeah that is excactly the reason why I did not get diesel, too expensive. Christian said we don't have time tomorrow to do the job, so I should wait to get diesel 🙄😅. But on the day we actually did do the alignment, the tank was full and I spend 152€ (1€=1.52 Aus$). 😳🙋‍♀️Vera

[@equaliser2265]

Cheers Christian Vera, great stuff.

[@tydlig]

I have to finally comment something after watching about 70 of your videos. I absolutely love your content! You make a great team. So much fun watching you bicker a bit. I love Vera’s comment in another video “Christian isn’t funny yet. I’ll have to come back later. “ And it took me until this video to understand what LR in your channel name means. Yes I own a Tesla and no Land Rover ;) Thanks for your videos and hello from Sweden!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅👍🙋‍♀️

[@blackhouseengineering5386]

Great job guys. Keep the great content coming.❤

[@ZachBrimhall]

Great video Christian and Vera👍🏻

[@ONELIFELIVEITOZ]

Congratulations guys. Great fun videos.

[@kevinmartin9432]

Brilliant video, thank you so much for all your hard work.

[@michaelwhyte3995]

Brilliant Thanks both. Love the attention to detail!

[@DiscoGruffalo]

D3s had a misalignment on the rear axle from the factory. Until they get a proper alignment, they all wear the rear tyres like this. You should do the alignment at the most usual weight you drive at, the LR advised loading weight is a compromise for all the conditions they expect. I'm sure they don't expect a close to fully loaded all up weight all the time like I run. I suspect Vera's D3 is well up on weight now with all the extras and kit you carry. Yet another fantastic bush mechanic session, and congratulations on the 100th episode and your 20,000th subscribers.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

When we actually did the alignmentt job, the tank was full. I never, ever go till empty, that is too stressful for me. 😅 It was very stressful week and that video was almost 4 days in the making.👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@mdshovel]

Once again ... superb 😁

[@SiCrewe]

Very, very, impressive engineering. Be careful when repositioning an angle-finder, though. You'll often find that they give a slightly different reading after repositioning. For example, if you measure a surface that has an angle of 5°, it might read +5° in one direction and -4.7° when facing the opposite way. It's always best to set a "datum" surface and take all other readings relative to it, with the angle-finder in the same orientation. Also, fun fact: digital angle-finders (and digital devices of most kinds) can often have a built-in inaccuracy of 0.1 as a result of how the A/D converter circuitry works. They'll count "...+0.2, +0.1, 0.0, -0.0, -0.1, -0.2..." etc. The thing where they count "zero" and then ALSO "negative zero" means an inaccuracy of 0.1 is introduced whenever you transition between positive and negative values. This is most often seen with digital thermometers but it also happens with other digital measuring devices. Usually this stuff wouldn't be a big deal but it might be a problem when measuring small angles such as suspension geometry. I used to work in a NAMAS instrument calibration lab' and we had to deal with this stuff all the time.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

👍We did each procedure about 5 to 7 times. I was going nuts. But it's the best we could do with such a heavy vehicle. This video was shoot over 4 days, because we repeated the measurements so often, cut down to a 30 min video. 🙋‍♀️Vera

[@fredbrackely]

That is because of the expansion of the metal. The Chinesium warms up quickly to the touch.

[@DaanvanGruisen]

Congratulations on your 100th video!

[@iBrad.]

Top work, you crazy people. Keep the informative, entertaining videos coming.

[@thescot1163]

Great and interesting video. Keep up the good work.

[@peterbarwick4938]

Congrats on your 100th video. Up to your great and usual standard 👍

[@seanmiller140]

Brilliant. ❤️ Congratulations on the 20K. Well deserved.

[@gordonbarclay6106]

Loving the videos keep up the good work. Full of all the info required to give it a go yourself..

[@kearnsey64]

Congratulations on your channel milestones!! I own a 2013 LR4 and learn so much from you. Thank you!

[@guyharding2298]

Congratulations!! And such a great German precision video and topic too for such an occasion!

[@williamprobert5124]

Congratulations on the 100k Great video More precise than the alignment place we use for them

[@TheDaf95xf]

Afternoon Vera & Christian. Nothing better than a LR time video before I go to work lol 😆 Love everything I’ve watched that you’ve made 🤩 xx

[@georgecaspira3637]

Congratulations on 100th video, 20k subs and VERA's NUTS. Thanks for sharing members of your family too.

[@freespeech2261]

Great work, well done on 100 videos, OMG

[@mauritztoivonen1070]

Thank you.Super.

[@marcel3282]

Congratulations on Your 100 the episode, 🎉 🎂. Keep it coming.

[@steinarms]

I was googling around because I was thinking of getting a DC4 that has some electrical problems where the car is stuck in safe mode but I ended up subscribing to your channel in stead. Really like your videos, very descriptive and amusing.

[@leejordanful]

Congratulations on 20K Subscribers and your 100th video! I hope that you enjoy making them as much as we enjoy watching them 😀

[@dingleydell3250]

Very well done to both of you throughly enjoy the vlogs well deserved 20K subs congratulations.

[@axelf6336]

Thank you Christian and Vera for this brilliant video. I will try it but I need some tools first. I have same tyre wear on same side on my RRS 2011.

[@steveone9375]

Very good 👍

[@gerardoviegas6586]

Damm...excelent video as always .....💪💪💪💪💪👌🤙

[@loluspololus]

great video ,a lot of work involved in this home aligment ,well done !!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Thanks. Christian

[@jurgenkrebbekx4329]

Congrats for your growing channel and 100th vid, keep them coming

[@chrisdown2591]

😀CONGRATS on the 100!🎉

[@janekrts]

Thanks 👍👍👍

[@albertskytour6288]

UK viewer here. I despise Land Rovers but love your videos and the way you do everything. Firstly, I wish you two were our neighbours. Secondly, if you had been in charge of engineering at LR they would be much better vehicles 😊

[@themoshpitt]

how technical is that!!! wow. I'll be honest. will take mine to the garage. but its great to see how to get it so precise by hand.❤

[@110markb]

Well done, happy 100…

[@justinsmith6296]

Another very informative video, thank you, and congratulations on the 20k subs you both really deserve it, there are plenty of other discovery 3/4 channels on KZbin but you two are truly the best out there, long may you continue. Ohh and Thank you very much for my patches and stickers 👍

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😃💪👍 Hope you like them🙋‍♀️Vera

[@james40130]

Congratulations on your 100th video 👍👍 keep up the good work 🥳

[@oilyragsgarage7200]

Congratulations on the 100th video and 20k. One of your best yet👍

[@hallyfella]

Great video guys as usual. Congratulations on the 100th Video and 20K subs .

[@fredbrackely]

Well Done.

[@usanz94]

Congratulations on 20k subs and 100th video. Wonderful content and presentation

[@bobevansIW]

Hey you two!! Another excellent episode. Many congratulations on achieving 100 episodes and 20k subscribers 👍

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😃Thanks🙋‍♀️Vera

[@davidf.8497]

You both are lovely and soooo useful too. Thanks for the vid. I also did it, but used two long clamps to prevent the steering whell to go back and forth.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

👍😃🙋‍♀️Vera

[@charlieodonnell9129]

Congratulations on your 100th video 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@gazzafloss]

Your wheel alignment woes are why I prefer my 4x4 with at least one live axle. My old D1 had two live axles, some say they're primitive, I say they're practical. Great video Vera and Christian, executed with the usual "precision".

[@mattpepper1143]

Congratulations on the 100th episode guys... well done, hope the crank shaft is ok😬

[@AndreKutzick]

Well done. I will do it just the same way. Great episode. But I need to buy an inclinometer first.

[@jaspersamson]

Congratulations you two on your video #💯, and the 20K followers…‼️🎉 I was hoping to visit you while I was so close by, but unfortunately not possible this time😢

[@1699bridgetown]

That was exhausting to watch, I’m going to have a rest now. Very good video and shows how important the rear alignment is. Was a bit of a surprise it was the rear and not the front. Well done for reaching 20k. Great result.

[@mvirdi2333]

Hi 👋 my father is doing the similar way without using a axle stand /pipe but two people need to hold a thick cotton thread 🧵 one is in front and second is rear of side to see /watch tyres side gap between them .I really like 👍 your video and remind me my father .this is I learned from my father about 1965. Thanks ❤️❤️👍👍🙏🙏

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😃💪👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@AndrewKNI]

Congratulations on the 100th video and the 20k subscriptions. :-)

[@BasBultje]

Congratulations on your 100th video.

[@grahamwest1079]

Well done for persevering and very interesting. Congratulations on 20,000 subscriptions. I have been using my Gap tool to set the suspension on my L322 as low as possible (my mother broke her arm while trying to get in and ended up falling out) so now it goes as low as possible so I can help her get in for hospital visits. I also lowered the seat base. As for my Defender I've been painting the rear cross member, steering guard and winch bumper. Today I also replaced a door hinge and repainted the caping on the pickup bed. It's relaxing watching you work on your landies after I've been working on mine.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

👍💪 The GAP tool does have it's advantages, we have to say.🙋‍♀️Vera

[@Shanes_Shed]

Congrats on the 100th episode. This video reminds me I need to sort the right rear camber on my D3. I can see with my eye that its got too much negative camber. I also done the string method when I replaced the rear toe links - I'm sure you'll have someone whinging that its not accurate etc... But its a method that's good enough for practically every race team on the planet so that's gotta tell you something

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Hello Shane, ours ran fine for 2 years like this and just during the last 3000km the issue became visible. Glad we got it fixed as we cruise regularly with 160 km/h. Christian

[@bigdavesdiscovery3world414]

💯!!! GREAT

[@billytremoloband7456]

These vids are so inspiring I’ve gone and bought a 07 rr sport with a blown up engine as a project….! Wish me luck I will defo need it ……! 😉 I will also definitely need an LR time sticker when the project is complete!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Oh, we plan the same and so do many others. Engine failure cars are almost more money than working ones here in Germany. I’ve seen +9t € spend on a TDV6 D3 with 160k and failed engine. Christian

[@nogoogltalk]

A very well made video which is also helpful for LR-Owners without a whole workshop ! I am looking forward to more videos like this. For example have a look at your D3 air-intake for the interior vehicle when the hard-plastic lip of the outside frontcover at the bottom of the windshield fails and rainwater flows benath it. Costs of hundreds when it fails, fixing with 1 Eur or less before it fails.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

👍😃🙋‍♀️Vera

[@SCGFunktionsmodellbau]

Nice, as i changed my rear bearinghousing i just made a Mark with a Chissel as i Had to Cut the Bolts Out anyway. But from Day one my D3 allways looked from the Back Like a droped 3 Series BMW 😁 Not only 1 Degree or so. Dont worry about the Noises so much our Cars are now in that age that the Voices Brake and Pimples apear...

[@toyotatim2521]

Very informative and useful video, this is exactly the way I used to set my race car up. The Excel sheet is very useful to have as well. For the pedantic (me) it's Tie rods in America, Track rods UK. Sway bar in America, Anti roll bar UK. There's also the control arm-wishbone debate as well 😅 Wonderful video and I can't wait for next week's one

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Thank you Tim. Yeah, we have lived in the US for almost 10 years, and Christian has almost only US business. So our vocabulary is more US based and not British😅👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@bobrose7900]

Thumbs up from me. Great video as usual. Phew! Take a bit of advice and drop it down to your local tire fitters who have laser wheel alignment and pay them for 30minutes work under your supervision... you know it makes sense!! Fun video, but that was hard work! But well done nonetheless!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

Here in Germany, the local tireshops do not do that kind of work. They only change tires. But we do support them more than others with 4 to 6 new tires each year. Most people only go there to have the tires changed from winter to summer, or the other way around. It is a big hassle to get a qualified shop to do an alignment.

[@mprocify]

Vera and Christian. Did you ever had a free weekend? I mean doing nothing...? :-)) Great videos you make. Best wishes...

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅No, that is not our thing👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@robpeabo509]

Vera, the steel in a radial tyre is called "Steel Belts". They are steel cord plies. The catch cry in advertisements when they were introduced was "Steel Belted Radial Tyres" to reinforce the fact they were better than "Rag" tyres. Prior to radial tyres we had Bias Tyres, these had no steel belts. They were also called "Rags" because they had nylon or cotton cord plies. That was a detailed step by step for the DYI'er Christian & Vera. How you did it was how the old timers pretty much did it before wheel alignment machines were developed. Also, the method used is very, very accurate. It just took much longer than the alignment machines. Congratulations on your 100'th video and reaching 20,000 subscribers. You subscriber count should increase exponentially as more people spread the good word and/or KZbin use their analytics/logarithms to promote your channel to others.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😃🙏🙋‍♀️Vera

[@batfalcononyoutube]

Gongrats once more!

[@discovery-on-the-island1079]

The D3 hospital with Christian and Vera 👏Have a nice day 😉

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@discovery-on-the-island1079]

😉

[@chriscary5302]

I bumped into your channel, I find the German vs LR dynamic quite interesting! Also I am so glad I have a Discovery 1 with 300TDI. Of course I may be the last guy in the US driving a 1995 D1. All I can say is SUPER! Genau!

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅👍No you are not. You guys in the US have a great Land Rover community with lots of D1s and D2s. Wish we had that here in Germany. We can‘t drive them anymore, here in our area, because of our strict emission standards. 🙋‍♀️Vera

[@chriscary5302]

@@Vera_and_Christian Such a shame! I live in Colorado, in a small town and can off road just about any time. I remember living in Germany in the early '80's. You guys have rules about the rules!

[@alexcornofficial]

Please make a video about maitnance on the airsuspension. On how to clean the airbags on suspension

[@japdog9]

CONGRATULATIONS 100 . You make it sound so easy , anybody could do it . but i know better , its hard , so top job , looks like you did a efficiant german precise job with just the right amount of tools.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

This video was 3 after work sessions and 5h on a Saturday plus 4h the xls sheet and 8h editing. I completely underestimated this job. That does also not include the drive to the hardware store. Christian

[@paulleeson8670]

Congratulations to you both, another very useful video. Keep up the great work 👍🏼

[@martiniv8924]

Technical assessment on tyre wear, Vera veering off towards Mall’s 🤓

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅 I actually don't do that, hate shopping. 👍🙋‍♀️Vera

[@olibarnett87]

Good morning

[@PeterOZ61]

hey FYI we have the airsuspension version here in Oz, very few coil versions and they were on the bottom end model.

[@graemevass745]

Congratulations to you both on your 20k subscribers . Most garages can't do 4 wheel alignment on a Land Rover properly, that's why i do my own also . I use a Gunson trackace for toe , cheep chinese camber tool & digital protractor.... Great video guys and see you next Sunday

[@Vera_and_Christian]

I really think this is too complex for a average pickup truck alignment shop. I agree with you. Christian

[@graemevass745]

@@Vera_and_Christian ofcourse Toyota pickup drivers don't know what Wheel alignment is , you need to tell them that when the back wheels are in the fast lane , and your front wheels are in the slow lane , that a hammer wont fix it & an alignment is needed lol

[@agwatcher]

I was going to replace bushings and didn't think that would that much of trouble to align wheel. At least, I know that those at workshop who neither check manuals, nor do any precision with analogue stuff, is not worth of spending money.

[@6042833]

Hello my favourite German people.

[@richdudester]

Oh my god. I can’t believe the garage charges me so much for wheel alignment and probably doesn’t do it as well as Vera and Christian!

[@ministry_of_love]

I was waiting for your video on this topic since my Disco 3 failed on inner tyre wear last August. This resulted in the premature replacement of my Goodyear Wrangler tyres at a cost of 220 euros *each* I found it very difficult to find a wheel alignment shop in Ireland that would align toe as well as _camber_ on a Discovery 3. They all stated that the _camber_ adjustment was a specialist job. Seems _toe_ adjustment is much more easier and quicker to adjust. I might try aligning the camber after watching your video. Very thorough video as always. Thanks.

[@Vera_and_Christian]

You should remove the wheels and do a rough adjustment after the first inspection. Adjusting the camber bolts with the vehicle weight on is tricky and was painful. Christian

[@ministry_of_love]

@@Vera_and_Christian Thanks Christian. I have the camber measurement tool as shown in your video, so I'll give it a try.

[@davidjackson736]

Enjoy the vids, noticed some wear on my D4 tyres so thought I would revisit this one. Was thinking if the iphone level/protractor would be accurate enough? Would be an interesting bench test against the other two if you have a iphone handy🤔

[@billytremoloband7456]

This is very interesting and also very impressive , even at JLR dealership while using the official wheel alignment equipment the Lr 3 / 4 or l320 rr sports are a complete pain in the ass to set up the alignment!

[@seanhammon6639]

So cool! Loved this. I did this some time ago BUT watching this: 1) my string was too thick 2) I didn't account for different axle widths 3) I set it all 0° 4) I didn't bother with caster or camber... ... And I had just fitted 4 new tires! So I guess I'll be needing tyres sooner than I thought 😭😭😭

[@Vera_and_Christian]

😅👍You learn every time something new. 🙋‍♀️Vera

[@jamest5149]

‘scrub’ is the pushing of a tyre on the road by toe. Camber and tyre pressure is just wear localised to a part(s) of a tyre due to incorrect geometry. 👍

[@Coordinator61]

Great way to explain but this job must be done on a modern alignment rig.

[@tonisindustries5433]

hut ab !!!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@johnwillett4086]

Brilliant video and congratulations on the 100th - any news on how i can pay you for a patch without a PayPal account?