How to E-file ATF form 1 for DIY suppressor - Individual

IMPORTANT UPDATE: I've had a few people reach out saying that their confirmation email and documents says "draft" across the front of them and the email says "pending research". If you put your own serial number and/or model number this will happen to you, but DO NOT WORRY. It basically just means that the alphabet bois need some time to verify that everything is alright. Just wait, and in a few days, you'll get an email saying that your application status has changed from "pending research" to "submitted/ In process". Once you get that email, you will also get new copies of your form 1 paperwork. The ones that say "ATF copy" on them will need to be sent to the ATF with your fingerprint cards. The ones that say "CLEO copy" need to be sent to your CLEO. That is exactly what I did after doing this form and my form 1 just came back as approved exactly 31 days after sending out my paperwork.
My first time filing the ATF form 1. I’m doing this as an individual, not as a trust, and for a suppressor / silencer, not for a SBR. Let’s walk through it together.
If you’re interested in finding out whether or not I got approved, feel free to check back in about 30 days or subscribe so you get notified. I’m planning on posting a few videos of my DIY suppressor / silencer plans and build once the paperwork is approved and in-hand.
Note: I’m not sure why the audio doesn’t match my mouth. When I uploaded the video to youtube it messed it all up. And I’m not going to re-upload the whole video again.

[@51seluj]

Followed your guide, filed as individual, and 5 weeks later I have my form 1 approved!! Thanks!!

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching! That's awesome!

[@Tigris_River_Sand_Fleas]

Funding the ATF = Traitor to the country.

[@ZachTries]

GREAT NEWS EVERYBODY! My form 1 just came through as APPROVED! I'll be building my suppressor / silencer over the next couple of days and upload a break-down video once I've tested to make sure that it doesn't explode in my face. I'll also upload a video of me shooting it on a 223 bolt action and .22 lr with both supersonic and subsonic round. Subscribe so you can see those videos too!

[@jermbarnett1]

Thanks Zach for the video really helped me out. I went through the whole process and paid but it's still stuck on the Sign & Submit button won't let me press the button 😒...I got the confirmation email for payment hope it doesn't erase my crap and I have to start all over again.

[@ericcoombs2747]

When did you get the email with info to mail in fd258 forms in?

[@Tigris_River_Sand_Fleas]

Funding an anti-constitutional entity. Good job traitor... Keep feeding into tyranny.

[@andyprice4696]

I followed these directions exactly and my e-file went from research to submitted/in process in 4 hours. Had my cover sheet and form by that afternoon. I for sure didn’t expect that! Trying to get fingerprint cards was a challenge during covid times. My local sheriff office didn’t have any. Said they don’t do printing anymore. I ended up tracking some down at my local ATF field office. You can also get the fingerprint cards off Amazon. Great walkthrough!

[@ZachTries]

Awesome! thanks for watching!

[@CRNKDTDNK]

Just used your guide to fill out my first form 1, amazing video and a big thanks!

[@ZachTries]

Just glad I could help!

[@TonysTractorAdventure]

This has to be the best How To Video on this subject. Thank you

[@ZachTries]

Thanks Tony!

[@bakernathan98]

Thanks for your help man mine got approved last month .

[@ZachTries]

Nice! Thanks for watching!

[@ZachTries]

IMPORTANT UPDATE: I've had a few people reach out saying that their confirmation email and documents says "draft" across the front of them and the email says "pending research". If you put your own serial number and/or model number this will happen to you, but DO NOT WORRY. It basically just means that the alphabet bois need some time to verify that everything is alright. Just wait, and in a few days, you'll get an email saying that your application status has changed from "pending research" to "submitted/ In process". Once you get that email, you will also get new copies of your form 1 paperwork. The ones that say "ATF copy" on them will need to be sent to the ATF with your fingerprint cards. The ones that say "CLEO copy" need to be sent to your CLEO. That is exactly what I did after doing this form and my form 1 just came back as approved exactly 31 days after sending out my paperwork.

[@wesleytimmerman5666]

Good video! Still worried some as my initial emails say “pending research” and has been like that for about a week still no follow up emails. Although on my form one it says submitted/in progress at the top, but at the bottom it’s blank for submit a date. Feel like I’m stuck, can I super speed this as I already have my blue finger cards completed ready to go like everything else. Only thing waiting on is this follow up email. Help- thanks

[@ZachTries]

@@wesleytimmerman5666 Hey Don. Thanks for watching! If I can remember correctly, mine took about 4 maybe 5 days in the "pending research" phase. I've read of some people's being in that phase for sometimes 10 days. Hopefully yours comes through!

[@wesleytimmerman5666]

@@ZachTries for all your followers in the same position that have their 2 blue fingerprints done and only waiting for the ATF to release the pend.. Well I noticed if you go back to your Eform and hit “my form” you can print out 2 copies of your Eform that is auto filled out to what you created, your picture and all is on there. Could you send those with your fingerprints to both places to be ahead the curve? OR must wait/need that cover page on the next Email that states “submitted” email? Just curious, because say it’s a month and if you can send all your paperwork out almost a week earlier then hypothetically you could be cutting your wait time down by(the pending time) a week/more- 1/4th or more of the entire process. - Food for thought. My story - I’ve done the form1 for SBR, etc & prints before BUT never able to finish as the AFT Eform site would alway crash Before finishing and never got the email part so that’s the part that idk, and where your helpfulness comes in. Thank you for fast responses, THANKS AS FOR THE VIDEO IT WAS VERY WELL DONE!

[@ZachTries]

Don V hey don. I’m not 100% sure on if you could print those out and send them early. I’ve never read anything about people trying that. This was my very first experience filling out and submitting the e form 1. If it were up to me, I would probably just wait. You should be getting that confirmation email pretty soon. Any day now. If you do end up trying it, let me know how it goes! I’d be very interested.

[@wesleytimmerman5666]

@@ZachTries I’ll keep You posted today was Day 3…not sure if they’d take it or not as they do say DAFT on all pages. Ever have a sec Log in and pull up your last form1 and then “my forms” and you get the pic. Thanks bud!

[@100fredkrueger]

Thanks for the walk through. I am fixing to fill mine out. It’s my first one so hopefully everything goes smooth. I’m am getting my can from quiet bore. I will purchase the kit once my tax stamp gets approved and that kit comes with the can, baffles and end caps. I also will buy their jig to help drill out everything. Then they engrave it before they ship it to me. Not a bad price for all of it either. I can’t wait to get it!!

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching!

[@100fredkrueger]

@@ZachTries I made a big mistake. I received my email that said “submitted/in process” but checked it on my iPhone and it didn’t show the details or the cover page. So I assumed it wasn’t it. I have been waiting since June 22. I just checked the email on my MAC and it showed the cover page. So I didn’t send my prints in time. Now I have to go through this again. Makes me sick.

[@ziros22]

I'm impressed this video is still up! Thank you for the walkthrough. It helped a lot

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching!

[@Jonathan-gz6tu]

why would the video be taken down?

[@RyanMcPizza]

Thank you VERY much for this informative video. It will definitely save a lot of people from a headache (if they listen and apply) since I almost put "owner" on my form 1 submission.

[@RyanMcPizza]

UPDATE: so my forms were submitted on day 74. sent in fingerprint cards and waiting on form 1.

[@ZachTries]

Awesome! Thanks for watching!

[@RyanMcPizza]

@@ZachTries how long did it take them to approve after “submitted”?

[@ZachTries]

@@RyanMcPizza For me it was less than a couple of weeks. But some people in the comments are saying that it's taking them up to a few months now. ATF is really dragging their feet.

[@RyanMcPizza]

@@ZachTries ew

[@5dc61]

Submitted status on: 10/05/21 Approved status on: 1/25/22 Thank you much sir!

[@ZachTries]

Nice! Glad I could be of some help!

[@TacticalBuffoonary]

Just an FYI’ other form1 builders are saying if you don’t pick a model from the dropdown and make up your own’ it takes longer. I will use the dropdown for the model and then put my sarcasm in the serial number’ how about FJBLGB 0001???🤣🤣

[@ZachTries]

I like it! haha

[@Parkerlovesdogs]

Thanks Zach. Just submitted my form 1 after watching your video. Hopefully 30 days from 1/23/21 from now I'll be posting an update

[@ZachTries]

Goodluck! Several people have left comments saying that theirs is taking significantly longer than the 30 days it took mine. I think the ATF is either overwhelmed or they're just not putting a priority on form 1 submissions. Let us know how long it takes yours!

[@marclarose4512]

I did mine on the 10th of this month...an still no second email yet! I believe it’s going to be longer than 30 days now.

[@MaxRoycroft]

Submitted mine in Mid-November and still haven’t been approved.

[@TonyGulish]

Submitted 1/23. Second email 3/19

[@PeterSripol]

stupid question, after all this (after I entered my CC info) I have to enter my password before it would submit. I did this however after about 3 minutes I got kicked out and had to log back in? Did my form submit or is there any way to check? thanks!

[@ZachTries]

Hey Peter, you should get that email from them almost immediately and the charge should be on your card right away. If neither of those happened, then your form probably wasn't submitted. Hope this helps!

[@PeterSripol]

@@ZachTries Thanks for the reply! turns out they did bill my card and didn't submit the form I had to go back in and try again. It took about 5 tries thanks to the govts "efficiency" what an absolute disaster for something that should be free to make.

[@ZachTries]

@@PeterSripol Don't you just love dealing with government agencies?

[@PeterSripol]

@@ZachTrieshell no! its about as fun as trying to seat a full 30rnd magazine on a closed bolt in an AR!

[@KLH-pn8gg]

This some what happened to me. 3rd time was a charm.

[@CraigHeilmanVlogs]

Can you please show us how to get the stuff to file your fingerprints and where to send it to I have no clue

[@tnsquire3195]

Ok - just submitted form 1 about a week ago. The instructions indicate 2 things that make no sense. 1 - it says you send a copy of application to the head LEO in your area prior to submission - but the e-form only shows up as draft - so are supposed to send a copy of application to LEO with “Draft” emblazoned all over it? 2 - it also says fingerprint kit with the emailed cover letter etc must be postmarked no later than 10 days after submission - I have yet to receive this email, don’t expect I will get it in 10 days - I also see here some folks saying it took 30-60 days just to get the email cover letter with instructions. --- so am I missing something or is the ATF this loose and screwed up on how they administer this? I’m pretty sure if I started making my suppressor prior to their approval, they won’t be so loose with the rules. Any help/thoughts appreciated.

[@robcoleman6558]

From what I have found you file form then atf sends you a cover letter for your local and county pd. Yes this has set me back a month trying to figure out

[@tnsquire3195]

@@robcoleman6558 correct. You are supposed to send that form to LEO after the form changes from draft to submitted. Mine all worked eventually. This was a fun project - the little fuel filter 22 suppressor is not great, but is actually better than I expected.

[@vmac8972]

That’s a lot of information I’m giving to an entity that shouldn’t even exist. I want to get a suppressor so bad. 😂

[@Adams.Family.Adventures]

Just submitted my first form 1 while following along to this video. Thanks for the help! You got a like and subscribe from this guy!

[@ZachTries]

Tha me brad! Let us all know how it goes!

[@chasmofsar2691]

I had to laugh when you said "end all, be all" and then proceeded to say, "I'm not going to get into that" 3-4 times in the next minute.

[@misterx8592]

Great info Zach. I just submitted my Form 1 for a suppressor and used my own serial numbers. I too got thr Draft email. So Im now waiting for the next phase to come through. You are the only video that mentions the “Pending/Research” email with the Draft stamped copies.... nice work!

[@ZachTries]

I hope it works for you! Keep us posted and let us know how your build goes!

[@Dipper964]

Thank you. Wouldn’t have known about fmi, if it wasn’t for this.

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching!

[@Dipper964]

@@ZachTries they made my submission “pending research” and I’ve only gotten the draft copies so far

[@ZachTries]

@@Dipper964 That's what happened to mine. Just wait for a week or so. You'll get an email when you get your non-draft versions.

[@Dipper964]

@@ZachTries sweet thanks. They replied and said that the no draft will come in 8weeks lol

[@ZachTries]

@@Dipper964 Stupid ATF. Such a joke. Mine came back in like 10 days or so. But I image that they are pretty swamped with submissions.

[@jh3809]

This video helped out a lot, thanks for doing this. It made it much quicker to get through it without confusion. I'm in the same boat as the others now, my form says submitted on the e-file site and I received 1 e-mail saying it's in pending research. Nothing else yet

[@ZachTries]

Keep us posted!

[@jh3809]

@@ZachTries Just checking back, I'm 19 days in and still have yet to get my cover letter e-mail. It's still PENDING RESEARCH. Not sure how others is going. Later

[@jh3809]

I just received my cover letter e-mail yesterday March 21st and originally submitted my eform around February 3rd, just so those taking awhile have an idea. Any idea if I have to send anything besides finger prints in? They send the submitted copy form to the e-mail to but I don't see any instructions stating to send that anywhere, cover letter only lists the fingerprints.

[@nitepone]

Minor detail. Electronic documents should be used by individuals in states that require a physical firearms license. I have seen multiple people get requested for a copy of their local LTC in this section by an ATF agent over email after submitting the application. (It's important to keep an eye on your email!)

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for the info! Very useful.

[@PolarBearSushi]

Wish you were here when I did mine, but thanks for the info!

[@ZachTries]

Hopefully yours worked out! Let me know!

[@royalteacompany]

Good stuff! Thanks for the walkthrough

[@ricktenter1631]

Thanks for the info!

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching!

[@firearm.obsessed8142]

If you make a new model does it take longer to get approval

[@KLH-pn8gg]

Many thanks. Waiting for my email for cover letter and cleo paperwork and hopefully the tax stamp letter.

[@jayder1985]

When filling mine out and gwtthing the alerts, mine is showing that an attachment (blue prints or whatnot)is required? I am not seeing you mention that in this video.

[@coles.1524]

As far as I understand. You can own the parts before you file the form 1 (though it’s more risky) you just can’t do any machining until your approved

[@ZachTries]

Probably true. the atf is just so unpredictable haha.

[@heroofharo]

Be careful what you say if you go that route. If you bought parts with the intent to manufacture a suppressor, by the ATFs logic, you bought and possess suppressor parts. If you bought a fuel filter, and decided it's a crap filter and you would like to turn it in to a suppressor, congratulations, that's totally legal. That's the way it's been explained to me on multiple occasions and I believe it.

[@paulwest4424]

It’s all legal to make and have. Only thing that would make it illegal is when it’s threaded

[@UncleDanBand64]

Nice job!

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching and subscribing! You da best.

[@HickSmitty]

Thanks for the video. Just started looking into this process. Is the process for a Trust much different? I have kids and I would probably put my significant other/other family on the trust at some point so they could use the suppressor with no legal issues

[@smcewen7]

I made the mistake of ordering one before I saw this,I new I needed the form approved before I make it ,but ordering It did not know before hand i did not.Has long as I don't do anything to it will I be ok?😬

[@ZachTries]

I just wouldn't start making it until you get your form approved. Maybe keep all the pieces stored separately.

[@smcewen7]

@@ZachTries Exactly I tried to cancel the order and its to late,bad thing is its coming from China..Im a little freaked out because if heard about customs finding it and sending me a letter..😬

[@ZachTries]

@@smcewen7 Yeah It looks like you might be in bit of a pickle. I ordered mine from china too, I didn't get any letter or anything. Just hope that your form gets approved quick. Keep us all posted with how it goes!

[@smcewen7]

@@ZachTries yeah I thought I was ordering from a California company oh well lesson learned and I haven't filed the form yet it take 60 days now to get approved.I guess I'll deal with whatever happens.I didn't know about getting the tax stamp before I ordered a product from a website that says FTC regulated products.Nore did I plan on modifying any thing before that was taken care of first.Oh if the ATF is reading this,no intent will be until approval is given.

[@lazydragonslayer]

It’s called a silencer because that’s what’s on the 1902 patent.

[@30wrdy]

For your fingerprints did you put city and state or just state? My local sheriff’s did state but nothing else.

[@swamper2fly]

So it says application has been validated successfully but it won,t let sign and submit. If I click on pay a window pops up and says "The payment transaction should be completed in a new window that is open. After submitting the payment ,pleas close this pop-up window" I can't find or don't see the new window. TIA PS add blocker is turned off

[@dandetande288]

I will do one of this too, I hope I won't have to wait to long for approval

[@ZachTries]

Let us know how long it takes! We're getting some people saying its 3-4 months.

[@swamper2fly]

It won't complete the pay function. It says validation complete

[@davis-jn9df]

Is this all still current?

[@2dogshunting]

Great help. Thanks!

[@ZachTries]

No problem! Thanks for watching!

[@CarlosJimenez-vx7ll]

Good video man I live in California can I still do a form 1

[@Fajah69]

I am not a US Citizen and I am what is called an LPR (Green Card). You can legally own a firearm just like US Citizens. I believe we are the only non-US citizens in the country who are allowed since we live and work here indefinitely, we need something to protect ourselves too.

[@TonyGulish]

Does the cover letter come from same email address as the payment receipt and submission notification

[@ZachTries]

It should! Thanks for watching!

[@CC-te5zf]

Can you save your work as you go when filling out the form - so I can do a little today, finish later; or, does it have to all be done at once? Also, is it easy to upload the picture? Thanks.

[@ender8170]

you can. it is easy.

[@ZachTries]

Yes you can!

[@brettb8763]

Could you link the other video you refer to? Thanks

[@heybaby2005]

Thanks for this man. Truly. Where do you upload the fingerprints during this ?

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching! When I did it, you actually mail the fingerprints in after you print your approved application.

[@theripper20031]

Can I do the paper work and then go get my figures printes

[@green461]

No mention of fingerprints?? So sign, submit, and pay then they ask for fingerprints or does this have to be done first? How?

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching. After you submit this portion, you'll get an email saying that it's pending. After you get another email saying that it's approved, you will be directed in those emails to download and print some paperwork which you will send in. You should send your fingerprints in with that paperwork.

[@bradthecynical]

Do I need a new ATF form 1 for every suppressor and or SBR I make or does it cover all of the suppressor's/sbr's i'd like to make once approved?

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching! Unfortunately, it’s one per suppressor. Same goes for sbrs.

[@salvatorehayes2753]

Mine Got Disapproved. I Think Its Because Of My Pass Port Picture Not Having A White Background. Do I Have To Do It Again And Pay Another $200?

[@Coyote_precision]

Good video! Thanks

[@ZachTries]

Thanks Joseph!

[@michaelcarton3299]

what if your overall length was off? How close does it have to be?

[@ZachTries]

Nobody has to know…. Haha. Nah. I read somewhere that your overall length should be your MAXIMUM configurable length and that you’re ok if you’re under. If you’re over…. I guess you can decide what to do.

[@stephenedwards5063]

Do you need an actual passport or do you just have to provide a recent photo of your self? How does the fingerprint process work? I’ve watched videos and they don’t really explain. Will they tell me where to go get fingerprinted or do we just pick a place and go? I ask because I don’t wanna start this process and there not be availability within the 10 days

[@MrJacobjj84]

the patent was for a silencer. that's how the orginal laws where written. silencer is the correct term. though it does suppress the sound.

[@vmac8972]

Still louder than a chainsaw.

[@wesleytimmerman5666]

FYI - I just talked to the NFA. I had a good chat with a few of the agents. They told me the average wait time at this moment in time ALL form 1’s are now roughly 60 days for approval. Has anyone experienced your process to being close to that time for your form to be approved or still in progress?

[@ZachTries]

Let me know how this goes for you!

[@shoua7]

What is a UPIN? Can this be left blank? It's on the "responsible persons" page.

[@ZachTries]

I think it can be left blank. Let us know how it goes.

[@nc_classics9767]

Thanks

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching!

[@isaacroadman4989]

It did not have me put copies of my fingerprints anywhere in the form?????

[@ZachTries]

Hey Isaac, thanks for watching. You actually don't upload the fingerprints on the form. You need the physical copies of those and you mail them in with your approved application.

[@isaacroadman4989]

@@ZachTries ok thanks dude

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

Silencer is the name of the original patent

[@ZachTries]

Very true. Thanks for watching and subscribing! Let me know if there's any videos you want to see.

[@ryan370]

Does the e-file faster have shorter wait time than filing by mail? Otherwise it seems kinda useless if I still need to send my fingerprints in by mail anyway

[@thatguy5358]

how does one actually get this fingerprint card done? who does it?

[@ZachTries]

I had to go to my local police office and ask to get them done. It cost like $15.

[@thatguy5358]

@@ZachTries wow, aren't you prompt? if only the atf could respond in 4 minutes... or, you know, not exist. anyway, thanks!

[@ZachTries]

@@thatguy5358 one can only dream. Haha

[@thatguy5358]

@@ZachTries ha, yeah... actually, no. hell with dreaming, here's what one can do: get suppressors. take them to ranges. make them normal. make them common. influence culture. then, maybe someday, the world will be a bit better a place because the next hearing protection act will pass.

[@jacksondraper3340]

Do you scan an upload your fingerprints too? Or do you mail them?

[@thatguyfishingben4794]

Can I make a copy of my fingerprint card and send in and keep the original? Or do I have to take my fingerprints each time?

[@reviewsitall8739]

What if you already put owner in that box instead of maker? I submitted this morning

[@ZachTries]

I think you should be ok. I’ve seen other videos where people put “owner”. Let us know how it turns out for you!

[@reviewsitall8739]

@@ZachTries cool got a jk armament solvent trap making into a .30

[@KLH-pn8gg]

Zach, I submitted my Form 1 on 10/30/20. I got the email with showing payment, then got the Draft copy in the next email. How long should it take me to get the Cover letter that goes with the finger print cards and the CLEO letter?? I assume they will be PDF as the first 2 were. Please let me know. Again Thanks a million for the walk through Video.

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching! I've had a few people tell me that they've called the ATF to ask on progress and they were told that the ATF is SWAMPED with submissions and that the estimated timeline is 30-60 days before they get the actual cover letter copies. Let us know how long yours takes so the rest can know too!

[@KLH-pn8gg]

@@ZachTries Oh I will definitely let you know. I knew with everything going on in the USA right now that there will be delays. I guess I can submit my other 2 Form 1 paperwork, with the understanding it's going to be a bit of time on all of it. But yes I will keep you posted. Check email every day.

[@daniualthompson4107]

@@ZachTries Made payment on Sept 28, just received non-draft cover letter on December 22, 2020.

[@ZachTries]

@@daniualthompson4107 that seems to be about average now from people are telling me. But that’s awesome! Goodluck!

[@KLH-pn8gg]

@@ZachTries 12/24/20 no cover letter yet. Maybe next week? Who knows with everything going on right now. Hope fully get it soon. Just logged in to ATF and it now says "submitted/In Process". So it went from "pending research" TO "submitted/In Process". I will post when I get my cover letter. Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS Everyone and a Happy New Years..

[@green461]

Lol... how do you get to the page you are starting on?? My ATF.gov page is their home page. Any link i can find to a form 1 is a pdf... no efile anywhere.

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching! Try going to eforms.atf.gov/. You'll need to create an account before you can start your application.

[@christopherwilliams8423]

Thanks a lot!

[@ZachTries]

No problem! Hope it helps!

[@healthylifestyle792]

When I did mine it was asking for the parts of the silencer (which I obviously hadn't bought yet) but kept saying to provide identification/photos of the parts that were going to be used but in the past tense as if I already had the parts/kit, so this def is a trap as you can't already possess the parts before getting approved. The only viable way I can think of is to take pictures of the kits online or physically in a store (without buying them) and then after getting approved , then you can purchase the kit. Would I be right in saying that that's the only way to legally fill out this form one without entrapment?

[@ZachTries]

I don't think I even upload anything there. I don't know if that's changed to be required yet.

[@Tbt2013]

@@ZachTries it’s required. 15 or more characters unfortunately. I’m not sure what to put down

[@SanJacintoTowing]

Any update on what you did?

[@ssfrostyk8366]

I submitted my e-form 1 on 10/27/2020, received my cover letter in less than 1 minute after submission, and my prints arrived at the ATF on 10/30/2020. I saw comments on different channels stating it will take 30-90 days to process. It this correct?

[@ZachTries]

I've had some people reach out and say that they are waiting anywhere from 30-90 days to get their paperwork approved. So that sounds right. Keep us all updated on how long it takes yours!

[@ssfrostyk8366]

@@ZachTries Quick follow up: Today I emailed a woman named Patricia Bartles that works at the ATF regarding my Form 1 status. She replied within two hours with my Form 1 approval for my SBS. Total time from application submission date to approval was 23 days

[@ZachTries]

@@ssfrostyk8366 That's good that it came through! I'm sure putting a bit of pressure on them every once in a while helps. Thanks for the update!

[@usmcocs09]

@@ssfrostyk8366 Hey man, do you mind sharing her email? I’ve submitted 3 separate Form 1s on 09-18-20. I was stuck in “Pending Research” phase until about 2 weeks ago, I’m finally the “submitted” process. Still, it’s taking for EVER!

[@dennislucas8745]

It took me three months to get the cover letter .

[@MrRhsmike189]

when you printed the forms in you email did it have draft written on it?

[@ZachTries]

No. If your forms say "draft" then you have to wait until those get approved before you print them and send them off. Just wait, and in a few days, you'll get an email saying that your application status has changed from "pending research" to "submitted/ In process". Once you get that email, you will also get new copies of your form 1 paperwork. The ones that say "ATF copy" on them will need to be sent to the ATF with your fingerprint cards. The ones that say "CLEO copy" need to be sent to your CLEO. That is exactly what I did after doing this form and my form 1 just came back as approved exactly 31 days after sending out my paperwork.

[@MrRhsmike189]

@@ZachTries ok awesome!

[@ZachTries]

@@MrRhsmike189 Goodluck!

[@nypuno]

Do I have to get the FD258 from the police department, or can I print them from the internet?

[@ZachTries]

Good question. I'm not sure. I got mine from the police department, it costs like 5 bucks I think.

[@Pskinn]

Sorry I’m new, is this a way to get a suppressor/ silencer much faster than usual? Like if I wanted one for my rim fire Pistol?

[@ZachTries]

Unfortunately not... Not legally at least. If you go try to buy a manufactured one from a dealer, you'll probably be waiting for 9 months. If you make your own, you'll be waiting about a month or two.

[@Pskinn]

Zach Tries Dang, if I made my own would it run about the same price? Would I be giving up quality?

[@ZachTries]

@@Pskinn Great question. So if you go buy one from a dealer or make it yourself, you have to pay the $200 tax stamp for either one. Buying one from a dealer is going to be great quality, great materials, and pretty close to indestructible. Most suppressors come with a "life-time warranty" so if anything did happen you can get a replacement. The only downside is that you'll probably be paying close to or upwards of $500 for a good one (not counting the $200 for the tax stamp). The one that I made after doing this form cost me maybe $50, but I had to give up some quality and durability to do it.

[@Pskinn]

Zach Tries Wow only 50?!! So now I’m thinking to do this and build one to have soon and then also buying a dealer one, just thinking if I really wanna pay that tax twice.

[@ZachTries]

@@Pskinn Yeah that's the rough part. Forking out $200 just for the tax is ridiculous. And then waiting to get approved of course.

[@VesperSalvation]

Do you have to have your prints done before you fill this from 1 out?

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching! And no, you do not. At least not when I did it. You mail those in with your approved application.

[@porterthomas830]

Zach what if my gun doesn't have a serial number and no barcode?

[@TheFlyingZulu]

All guns should have a serial number on them somewhere... But anyway the serial number mentioned in this video is the number you will put on the suppressor that you intend make. Because you are making your own suppressor, you will make up your own serial number for it as well.

[@tnsquire3195]

@@TheFlyingZulu not true - if you make one from an 80%lower there will be no serial number.

[@joelopezjl28]

So it has to be a passport? Can it be a mil id or any real form of ID?

[@ZachTries]

The photos need to be the same kind of photo you would use for a passport, but the ID portion I think can just be drivers license or whatever is normally accepted. I don't know about mil id.

[@morganmasner]

Hey Zach, great vid, thanks for posting. I"m about to file my form1 for a solvent trap convert with intention of use with pistol. Any idea if I should include the overall length with booster assembly attached (it adds about an inch overall) or just the length of solvent trap?

[@ZachTries]

Great question. From what I’ve read, if you have a configurable suppressor that can change length or is modular, then the length needs to be the length at its maximum length. Hope this helps!

[@morganmasner]

@@ZachTries Thanks, I'll definitely play it on the safe side and include my booster length. Appreciate the info.

[@ZachTries]

@@morganmasner no problem! Keep us posted on how it goes.

[@emmiethepuppet2129]

I wish you would have mentioned that the ATF page for E-forms is SHUT DOWN EVERY WEDNESDAY! so don't try to do this on any wednesday like i just did cause you can't. LOL

[@ZachTries]

That's really good to know! I had no idea haha.

[@efrainsantiago888]

How do you submit Digital Fingerprints?

[@ZachTries]

I don't think you can. Or at least I haven't seen anybody who does that. You have to go get your fingerprints done physically at you local police station. You'll need two copies. Then you physically mail both of those copies with your coverletter and other pages (it should all be in the email you get) to the address on the cover letter.

[@efrainsantiago888]

Thank you

[@cplmackk1]

@@efrainsantiago888 Go to www.silencershop.com and register on their kiosk you will have to buy two fingerprint cards for $6 and send them into them but once your registered they can process NFA paperwork for you if your purchasing a suppressor from them or one of their dealers and you can look to see if there is a kiosk near you if there is just go to that store and register there they will scan your prints at the kiosk that will save you time and hassle getting finger prints done.

[@hotstinkytaco]

do you have to send a copy of your form 1 to the cleo?

[@MrRaynemaker]

Would've been nice if I could hear it.

[@ZachTries]

sorry! not a great set up here. Thanks or watching though.

[@Chris-pb3se]

I filed my form 1 on the ATF website yesterday. I’m uncertain about the “cover letter” email I’m supposed to receive. I received an immediate email giving me a “permit/control number” and indicating the status of my application is now “submitted/in process”. This is not the email I print out and mail in with my fingerprint forms correct? I just don’t want my 10 days to lapse while I wait for an email I already received. Any help would be appreciated.

[@rybread5718]

How did it go? Any tips would be appreciated.

[@Chris-pb3se]

@@rybread5718 I never got the cover letter. I called the ATF help line and they told me it was a glitch and to just write one out and told me what to write. After I submitted my paperwork and they had received it, it took 4 business days for them to approve it and email me the stamp. Honestly? Super easy. I’ve done two more since then.

[@rybread5718]

@@Chris-pb3se thanks! I'm submitting my paperwork hopefully by the end of the week!

[@Chris-pb3se]

@@rybread5718 that’s great. Good luck

[@NZcaver]

5:17 "... and then US Citizen because you have to be..." No, you don't. FYI, US Permanent Residents have the same rights and responsibilities as Citizens when it comes to ownership and use of Title I and Title II firearms.

[@seldian]

That's actually kind of surprising that they allow it to be honest, cool to know. Thanks for the info!

[@NZcaver]

@@seldian some people might find that surprising, but it makes sense if you think about it. Legal residents have already gone through background checks with INS, and have extra incentive not to screw up with the law or they might lose residency status.

[@100fredkrueger]

I had no idea permanent residents could do that. Thanks for the info.

[@RyanMcPizza]

Anyone else taking over 30 days? Filed 2 on dec 21st..

[@ZachTries]

Hey Ryan. Thanks for watching! There’s been a few people reaching and letting me know that theirs are taking longer than 30 days. Some say even 60 days. Keep us posted with how long yours takes.

[@Kaotix_music]

upon doing some research on Reddit - please for the love of god do NOTTTT follow his advice on making your own model. The "pending research" does NOT take a few days - since Covid This is taking up to THREE MONTHS! I just learned this and now gotta cancel my form 1 and make a whole new one. smdh

[@ZachTries]

Thanks for watching! Back when I did this (pre-covid) my pending research took less than a week. Lots of people are commenting that in the last year wait times have gotten REALLY long. Keep us posted with how long yours takes!

[@Kaotix_music]

@@ZachTries I’m most likely going to submit and entirely new form and cancel my currently submitted form.

[@Kaotix_music]

@@ZachTries Actually, UPDATE: I filed on Thursday and good thing I waited until I got home today to do anything but I just got the email an hour ago its out of pending status and now submitted! I guess the times are starting to pick back up again

[@ZachTries]

@@Kaotix_music Heyoooooo. that's awesome! Thanks for the update.

[@kevinaweseom2866]

So I have to get a passport?

[@ZachTries]

No, you only need passport-like photos. Basically, good lighting, no glasses or hats, against a plain background, shoulders up.

[@kevinaweseom2866]

@@ZachTries thank you, I need to file like 3 forms to sbr my rifle, and 2 solvent traps , Just dont want to drop the cash lol

[@ZachTries]

@@kevinaweseom2866 haha yeah I know. That’s the sucky part. Gotta love having to pay for your rights.

[@salvatorehayes2753]

@@ZachTries Would A Black/GreyIsh Tarp Be A Plain Background For Photo? lol

[@ZachTries]

@@salvatorehayes2753 I would try to find something white, if possible.

[@JohnDoe-jn4ex]

OMG please stop this fairy tail BS. Is it a right or something you have to pay for ....?? Hello