How To Easily Fix Your New OLED Banding, Grid, Or Dirty Screen Issues

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My 77" LG G1 looked awful out of the box. A few hours of HDR content and a pixel refresher later, and its the cleanest OLED panel I've seen.
It may not work perfectly for all panels, but will most likely improve them a lot. You should also do this every 1000 hours or so to clear any possible pixel issues that develop over time. This also applies to Sony OLEDs.
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[@luisarsuaga7637]

Thank you for sharing this. Mine had so many lines that I really thought that the tv was broken. The return period was already over for me, so this fix saved me a bunch of time. The difference was truly drastic. I thank you again!

[@MK-qo4qk]

Wow thank you, this actually worked! I just installed my Lg C1 yesterday, and immediately noticed LOTS of vertical banding, particularly one vertical band on the Left side of the screen, mainly darker bands. I followed the instructions in this vid and today, the banding is gone! Thanks again!

[@Katila234]

Yesss me to, now i call the maid to clean up mine tv pixels

[@Radiusthethird]

Had the same. Was scared to death

[@Radiusthethird]

The fix for me was the pixel refresher.

[@just_delightful]

How many hours did you run HDR content before the pixel refresher?

[@gerardocastillo1447]

Just bought an LG 55cs2pa, and it had vertical banding. I’ve done the pixel refresher and it got the job done. It was most noticeable at the prime (blue) start screen, and now it’s all gone. Thank you very much for your video and help!

[@spoonlion]

is the screen still good? or did the banding come back? just bought a 55 C3 and same vertical banding

[@gerardocastillo1447]

@@spoonlion it has never came back, it’s been perfect since then!

[@philiphad8981]

Hey. Just want to say thank you for this video. Surprised you don’t have more views. Great work!

[@MyGadgetsWorld]

Another great video Classy. I did that on my LG CX 77 inch and it doesn't change and panel has dirty banding on 5%. I have G1 and it is very good panel for me , seems like I got the lottery.

[@footballasylum6239]

Same with my C1 3mths not a problem but I really look after my equipment

[@faysalroky]

Sony ×90k full array led vs a80k oled 55 inc..?? Which one is best for high contrast, best viewing angle, best brightness, and best colour management which proved me realistic color experience. And how can I run darty screen test in my tv

[@rufdymond]

Informative video but you should certainly not run this process too often - if the banding or retention issue does not affect your everyday viewing, then leave well alone…doing this too often will shorten the life of your panel. The 4 hour compensation cycles are enough for the vast majority of people - the main refresh process is designed to be run every 2000 hours. So if you watched TV for 5 hours per day, that’s about 1 full year between each pixel refresh process.

[@qSPARTANp]

BRAVO SIR🎉 This fixed banding I had on my C3 from the edge to around 8'' in on the right!! Thank you...

[@jimfalco8302]

The grid is.a different issue. The pixel refresh can have some effect on vertical banding; however, it will not fix the grid or horizontal banding. Grid is seen mostly on panning lighter colored parts of the screen, mostly noticeable in videogames or anime. Try playing the snow level in gears 5. Look at the snow while moving. This will reveal it if you have it. Panning across a light colored sky in any game is also a good way to see.

[@A_z_A_r]

Any way to fix ?

[@allenkutter5286]

My 55" C1 had the grid pattern and horizontal lines present even in sdr content, hdr gaming and blu rays weren't tolerable.. Took it back, and don't plan on buying another oled, i'm done playing the panel lottery game.

[@jimfalco8302]

Unfortunately, there is no way to fix it. Most if not all modern oleds 2020-2021 have grid/horizontal banding to some degree. Your best bet is to avoid oled until they sort it out.

[@richeyjames8431]

@@jimfalco8302 problem is QLED has it also

[@SSNebula]

@@richeyjames8431 exactly! I'd rather have grid effect over DSE but with LED tech the issue is twice as bad!

[@xbone8950]

Banding has a good chance to improve after 200-300 hours of tv use.

[@xbone8950]

@boom_shika_wawo1 you obviously never owned an oled.

[@helsonly722]

@boom_shika_wawo1 you a gambling man I see. Play that panel lottery

[@dave2094]

Awesome. Good info to know for those of us that are new to OLED or are thinking about an OLED tv!

[@Joeki11a]

What? Watching HDR all day then Refresher cleans banding thats wild

[@Torana355]

Got my a80 j a month ago have banding and pink tint on left side on 5 percent slide. Have 200 hours on it now and it hasn't cleared up at all really, did a panel refresh too. My first OLED so not sure if it's normal but it's pretty disappointing for such an expensive TV. However I know FALD lcd TV's have DSE problems so I'm just going to live with the banding and tinting both of which are visible in some normal content. Looks incredible otherwise!

[@hassanjalal3878]

How's it going with the TV banding?

[@codecthelios]

I just got my first oled tv. It had this vertical banding. I tried this out and it’s completely gone now. Thanks

[@allenkutter5286]

All the varied hdr content and pixel refreshes you wanna run will not fix grid pattern and horizontal lines/ bars.

[@SSNebula]

What fixes it then?

[@allenkutter5286]

@@SSNebula Returning it. For real, this issue is a design/manufacturing flaw that is on EVERY oled panel this year, and i believe the majority of last year (cx) as well. I've had one 55" that had terrible grid even in sdr and now a 48" thats about as bad, its going back in the box tmrw..

[@SSNebula]

@@allenkutter5286 every single person I know with OLED has this issue to some degree...

[@Jordanfiend361]

@@allenkutter5286 just don’t buy a tv then because EVERY tv has some. Some barley any and some very noticeable but you can not avoid it completely

[@davidalmeida7582]

cara muito obrigado pelo video, ja estava desanimado pensei em ate acionar a garantia, coloquei o aparelho para limpar os pixels quando fui dormir, acordei com a tv quase q perfeita sem essas listras na vertical . muito obrigado a minha é o modelo LG A1 65p

[@godssalvation87]

Happy it works for some i had to return it ill see what the 2022 oleds look like!#

[@gprojectnoob4779]

I have to ask. I installed in the 1980-2000 during rear projection tvs and projectors were still a thing image burn in was a big problem. When we did break in on new tvs. We aimed for uniformity. That meant an all white pattern for a time then red, green, blue over the entire screen and lastly another white screen. We did this so the phosphor would burn in uniformly. The whole screen (ie each "pixel" in this case phosphor ) would be burnt with the same color and brightness regardless of color uniformly across the entire screen. I dont understand burning in a screen with random images. Each pixel will never burn in the same with random images.Each pixel will have been burned in with a different intensity and color pallet. Another thing that is odd to me is currently people compare 2 tvs i always hear. "one tv is more saturated then the other." Back in the day we used to lower the color of overly saturated tvs to compare them. Do you guys ever adjust the tvs to look the same and then compare? Obviously certain tvs are calibrated more toward red or blue but why not adjust color if its too saturated. Sorry for the long questions.

[@blerblybliggots9801]

Old CRT and CRT projection TVs literally burned-in colors from heat. New OLEDS are the total opposite. they dim over time, so the pixels that are used more, dim more.

[@felixisme]

@@blerblybliggots9801 Sadly that says as little as my response.

[@resulnaki]

I guess i was lucky cause i just got the 77cx, watched bunch of banding and uniformity videos, i saw no banding, no vertical lines or dse.

[@luciebolduc]

Maybe I got lucky my a80j 77in , its near-flawless. I can't say the same for any of my LG OLEDs. Sounds like luck of the draw however I get the impression Sony gets the higher-quality panels from LG when they buy them giving you better chances with Sony. My Sony is manufactured in Mexico, manufacture date November 2021

[@allenm9578]

What's the difference between "start now" and "quick check"? I got a white band on mine, planning to try this method out. Which one do I use?

[@pubmeatman]

I’m just a guy who wanted to replace my 14 year old plasma. I had never heard of banding before about 3 hours ago. I read a lot of reviews (none of which mentioned this issue) about the various models of oleds agonized over my choice and bought one. I’m really not picky but my first day watching this tv I turned on some golf. There was an obvious @ 2 inch band top to bottom that was a different shade of green. Went through different content and different sources yes it’s the panel. I see the appeal. If not for the banding the picture would be great but this is an unacceptable flaw in this technology. I remember how blown away I was when I got my plasma. This is disappointing. Getting rid of “almost all” of this defect isn’t going to work for me. Back to the store it goes.

[@just_delightful]

I just got a c1 83 - I noticed a pretty visible streak on dark grey, the dark grey was the KZbin menu, also noticed on light grey during the setup process- im running hdr content now- and I will run pixel cleaning in morning

[@just_delightful]

I ran 10 hours of different types of full screen HDR last night after mounting the tv- followed by the pixel refresher this morning- at the moment the room is very bright but don't really see the line 1/3 from the left that was extremely noticeable last night- I also noticed some dirty screen effect on pans last night- I haven't had time to test see if there is an improvement there- I walked right up to the screen and didn't see any bars today- hopefully it is truly solved and it isn't just hidden by glare/ sunlight- I'll keep you posted.

[@just_delightful]

dark room update - the fix worked- such a relief. I haven't noticed any pink - I will pretty much only be watching the TV straight on-

[@Marcelo-A]

Thanks man! My C1 65” had this strong DSE and several rectangular screen marks right out of the box. I was about to return it when I found your video. It took me only one pixel refresh to have a perfect screen. Now I’ll run it only after 2000 hours to avoid wearing… Thanks a lot!

[@michaelscott466]

You fool. You are killing the lifespan of your panel. LG did a Q&A on AVS and said do not run it unless there is a huge problem like burn in because it seriously shortens the lifespan of the panel.

[@lolfunnyguylol]

​@@michaelscott466 where did you see that? Have a link?

[@gosuosuo3216]

Another great video, what happened to the C1 black crush fix video? Why it's removed?

[@SvenskaIdioterna]

I was extremely skeptical, but at least wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt. Seems it actually does work for this kind of issue at least. I’ve had similar issues like crosshatch pattern on block colors that this solved nothing for but I started tje pixel cleaning a bit too early and stopped it 5-10 minutes in, I could already see a huge difference in banding and weird lines. Like they all got smudged out. Now I’m watching HDR demos and planning to use the full cycle of pixel cleaning, I really hope it’s perfect when it’s done. I was getting so damn fed up and tired because I had to spend 40 hours troubleshooting a new laptop as well just a few days ago, just thinking ”why can’t things just f*cking work, do I have to spend time and effort to pack it, drive it back and exchange it and then repeat the process?”. But now it seems I can sleep well and expect a flawless display tomorrow. Thank you.

[@SvenskaIdioterna]

Damn. Yeah, this really works for this particular issue. The first round of hdr and manual refresh actually fixed a lot of it. Before, I could see it even on other colors, even when it was mixed. Was dying a bit inside. After the first one, it got a lot leas noticeable. Still had a fair bit of smudging though, enough to annoy me but not be distracting during normal use. So, I went for anothe round. This time I used a more extreme video non-hdr but with max contrast and brightness and vivid mode on. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqXUhax8gKyeoMUsi=ukS8spQeTwp0Kehz 3 hours of that, just let it run. Then I did another manual pixel refresh, it’s not as bad as people make it out to be, LG recommends using it regularly, it even says right under the button on newer oleds. Don’t overdo it, but using it every once in a while isn’t that bad. Anyway, after that, my grays are almost completely uniform. I notice some level of smudging at the lower part if I focus and the entire screen is completely gray but mostly around 1-10% gray. Above that, you can hardly notice it anymore and at 20% I see nothing. I honestly think I lucked out on the panel lottery except for the initial scare. Who knows, the smudging might get even less noticeable with use, but not going to run more pixel refreshes for a while. Now I only hope it will keep this level of quality for several years.

[@mattmaca]

Hey Classy.👏Been following you and the gang for a few mths. Enjoying all the excellent info. Looking at getting an A80J later this year. Tried linking you to someone who is using another of your vids but my comment doesn't show here for some reason(prob due to link). Not sure if you've seen it yet but it's under Outlet zone.✌️

[@gobluebalter]

This won't fix the grid. Clearly you are not familiar with that issue. You should remove it from the title.

[@avilesjexiel]

What grid?

[@TheCorne87]

It made mine panel worse than before this is not a fix, but just being lucky or not!

[@SvenskaIdioterna]

Yeah, I tried similar things and a lot of other things for the brightness difference grid. Luckily my new oled b3 doesn’t have that issue. Seems pretty much every b1 had it and maybe other models because I got the display changed a few times and each one had it. Drove me crazy as a regular watcher of cartoons/anime. For the b3, it had issues that could be fixed with this though. Still some smudging but not enough to distract.

[@SLICK8116]

@@TheCorne87😂😅

[@TheCorne87]

@@SLICK8116 I was lucky back than and returned it for a new one 😅

[@MUSIC3787]

Yeah I see banding in some games in SDR but some games like GOW RAGNAROK dont have it in SDR but have it in HDR

[@McSquared13]

Thanks for the tip dude!

[@rubengarcia827]

My uniformity looks identical to yours and I too don't have any noticeable pink tint even at an extreme angle. I’ll consider myself lucky that all I have is a single dead red pixel on the bottom left of my display.

[@Lava-Puperze]

Hi Classy. Isn't this a liitle radical for banding? Some users say it will go away without the manual pixel refresh after 200hours of usage or so. I have a new G1 for gaming, 10 hours usage so far and haven't run any test patterns yet, lovin it so far, a little pink tint from angle viewing, not noticeable in normal gaming, but.... have only seen a banding issue at the sun in Ghost of tsushima until I tested Gran Turismo Sport with it. Completely distorted and full of waving stairs in one scenario. Good way to test your display I think... When you are creating a livery, you can change the background where the car is placed into black, outside, or white, which is more gray than white. On this white background....if you rotate the camera...oh my god...circle banding on the ground around the car and the background is full of waves with different color steps 😳 will it go away after some time or should I do the manual refresh? Thx!

[@craiglyons2314]

Classy, what has your experience been doing this with QDOLED? Has it helped?

[@Liasos88]

Just got the LG C3. I was playing a game and could clearly see vertical banding on a gray road when walking left and right. After I ran the pixel refresher it looks so much better. Hopefully the banding won't come back.

[@user-bi7fl7rg6i]

Same thing with lg g3. there is 1 vertical stripe on the right. Visible only on dark gray. Refreshing pixels doesn't help. did you refdresh after prolonged use?

[@Liasos88]

@@user-bi7fl7rg6i Hm it was a while ago now. I only remember that I saw banding and ran the pixel refresher and it helped. I hope you can solve it.

[@albaniampureana8602]

Ya Pixel cleaning helps, alot of TV guys on YT scare people saying "oh it will ruin the TV", bro LG puts that in to HELP the TV

[@Capricorn_IV]

Thank you! I had a huge light patch in the middle of the screen on dark greyscale slides and in content with dark scenes on my S95C. I followed your video and looped hdr video overnight, checked it in the morning and it was still there. I ran the pixel refresh and its cleared up most of the light patch! The only issue I'm having is switching between apple tv and my series x. I get crashes and a garbled screen when switching sources. Do you know how to fix it?

[@silky-smooth]

Are the steps? 1. Watch HDR content for 2-5 hours on vivid 2. Do pixel refresh, 3. Break in TV for 100 plus hours of SDR&HDR content?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

1 and 2 yes, then for 3 yes but the cleaning should be pretty much 95% done at this point.

[@silky-smooth]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Thx for the quick reply. Keep up the awesome work. Appreciate it ✊🏾

[@timk8258]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Is it necessary to watch the hdr content continuously and then do the refresh immediately, or do you just need to accumulate that amount of total watch time first (i.e. don’t do the refresh immediately after setting up a brand new TV)?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@timk8258 doesn't have to be immediately. Just use the TV for a while and if it's not clearing up uniformity then run the pixel refresh.

[@tameralsaifey4049]

I own LG C1 65" and I still love it. However, I struggle with the calibration. Any recommendation will be appreciated.

[@jamesbyrne8900]

Great video, Just wondering I have read somewhere before that running the full pixel refresh can reduce the lifespan of the panel and should only be run once per year, what's your thoughts on this?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Once or twice in the beginning won't hurt anything or reduce life span. It's just not something that should be done frequently.

[@DoodleDoo]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations hey man i really like how you sound so enthusiastic and happy in your videos.

[@jmcgrath777]

Yes, read sony's website. It is stated in bold red capital letters DO NOT RUN MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR or you will shorten the lifespan of the TV. With that said... If you have banding, dirty screen effect, etc, you can safely run it once every 2,000 hours without an issue. Just don't run it consistently like some people.

[@raiders559]

I've had my c2 one day and noticed banding. Should I wait a few days before I run the pixel clean up or do it right away? There was alot of banding 😬

[@faysalroky]

Sony ×90k full array led vs a80k oled 55 inc..?? Which one is best for high contrast, best viewing angle, best brightness, and best colour management which proved me realistic color experience. And how can I run darty screen test in my tv

[@tahsinbozar8500]

I have got some vertical banding on my 65g1 panel while i tested for%5 and %10. Its new, only 3 weeks. As I understand from this video, I should watch the hdr movies that doesnt include more black and grey scenes. I have never use my OLED screen cleaner from settings. Should I or when ? Thank you,regards.

[@racheldempster6655]

So is it necessary to clean your panel if it was calibrated by Value Electronics where it went through its break in period and passed Quality Control

[@peopleperson7263]

Hey classy , I got the C2 in the end. But I’m a bit worried because I realized that sunlight direct sunlight from my window slats hit the tv for 3 hours or so a few mornings ago - i covered blinds fully so not an issue now , but I’m worried that the sunlight may have charred the screen and that I didn’t notice it , and that the tv must of fixed this issue during the auto refresh cycle . Does that mean that the tv dimmed all other pixels in order to level it the level of the sun area ? Am I just being paranoid. ? I have limited time to to return tbh so a fast answer would help. Did this permanent dim my screen? Again I honestly see no difference , but I need to be sure since the price . Thanks so much , im confused as to how refresh works . Especially after sun . Only one mornings worth .

[@user-qc8hx2pw7f]

Мне это не помогло, полосы и пятна остались :(

[@Resurrector22]

I have Hisence QLED and no Pixel Refresh Mode. Only Run 12 Hours KZbin and Its better after watching?

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Good thing is every oled I've ever had wven if you don't mess with it the panel will clean up overtime oled tvs are known to clean up and dse will get better and that's with every panel I've ever seen and with every person I've ever known most are shocked at the difference after checking after like 200+hours but yeah I just leave my tv running with moving content of course make sure to change it here and there and it cleans up pretty well I did have one oled that had vertical banding I would turn it off then back on it would go away then it would come back and then if I unplugged the tv and turned it back on it would grt like 2x as bad come to find out it was the chip itself had to get replaced and the issue was fixed it wasn't actually the panel itself how crazy is that haha so now I always do that check to see if the image changes it was insane how different it would be just unplugging it and then plugging it back in the banding would get so bad it was the weirdest thing and even just turning it off and on the banding would get less or more intense I knew something was off by the way it was reacting it wasn't just your normal banding

[@shanemumaw3709]

This is what I’ve been looking for. Does it matter if I do a HDR KZbin demo or just watch some HDR movies?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Nope, I just set an HDR 2+ hour video when I leave. If I'm going to be gone longer or sleeping I do slides but that's only in SDR.

[@shanemumaw3709]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations so do I need to do an HDR break in and also a SDR break in?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@shanemumaw3709 no, just try to get it bright and varied as possible the first 100 hours.

[@ledooni]

I guess movies with letterbox bars wouldn‘t be optimal because those pixels just aren‘t used or am I missing something?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@ledooni correct, wouldn't use those

[@grilledchickenwrap]

nice video. I have banding issues on my Sony a80j 77" , can I just run roku show that has HDR 4k for couple of hours or should I watch longer? afterwards I should run the Pixel cleaning ?

[@peopleperson7263]

Is there any test pattern that can differentiate from 800 to 900 nits ? Would help with my sunlight question , I hope you can answer my sun question - thanks

[@triple_thrice]

i’m going to try this on my b7a i’ve had for years - do i need to run hdr content on vivid for ten hours before the pixel refresher? or is that just total hdr content in its entire lifecycle? thanks

[@F0CKSTR0T]

Everyone here talking about pixel refresh, what if I have a QLED that doesn't have a pixel refresher built in? Is there something to use?

[@JAnthony23i]

How long do I need to run HDR content for it to help of make a difference?

[@TheJoeypuppet]

i tried that too but it still looks like i am watching through a smeared window/glass

[@footballasylum6239]

Get InTouch with your supplier and explain your problems cos that doesn't seem right my friend

[@SilverBld]

Old video I know But my c1 has like a grid like pattern only in bright white areas is there any fix for that? It can be ignored but once you see it you can't unsee it type of issues.

[@Mike649foxx]

Took delivery of my Sony AJ90-83” the other day and the vertical banding when looking at grey screens is soul destroying. Playing games like Little nightmares is simply impossible. Is this seriously how OLEDs roll?!? Going to send it back and get a refund I reckon.

[@adrianosouza7839]

On my LG C2, a white line briefly pop up at the bottom of the screen every time the tv finishes the pixel cleaning. The short one that triggers after 4 hours of cumulative use. I had my panel replaced recently and this didn't happen on the old one. Is this normal? I would like to know if anyone else had the same experience

[@nelsonmendes7551]

Pixel refresher? Mine doesn't have that feature...tv is from 2018. Is it a new feature?

[@grilledchickenwrap]

after I ran panel refresh I still can see the banding... should I run this refresh a few more times ?

[@FuckMyParents-420]

All OLEDs will have some form of banding, it's a lottery on how much or how little you have on yours. Running multiple manual pixel refreshes isn't a good idea since you can shorten the lifespan of the TV.

[@Rollaroundtap]

Hey classy! I’m so relieved I’ve just found this vid, I have just got an A95L two weeks ago and today I decided to give it a dust with a microfibre, I then noticed while it was off just to the right of the middle of the screen a very faint thin black line running doing from the top half way down, you can only see it looking from left to right and not centre or right to the left, I really thought my tv was broken and waited 3 months for it to turn up. Can I just ask the pixel cleaner says only do it once a year, and I called Sony store and asked if it was safe and they said don’t do it? Just wanted to ask if it was ok to do this? Thanks man.

[@LeVagicien]

I m french, so I v havnt understand everything. I have to play a bright HDR video during 8 hours and clean pixels in options? 😖

[@calebgriffin8638]

I just got the LG G1 77” today. I don’t have banding, the lines going up and down, but I do have a faded circle that’s like an inch diameter. I can see it with uniformity test screens as well as real content. Can this be fixed?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Give it some hours of very bright HDR content and run a pixel refresher and see if it goes away

[@calebgriffin8638]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations I ran 17 hours of HDR content, then I did the Pixel Clean last night. The faded dot is still visible, but maybe not as intense as before. Will it be ok to run another Pixel Clean after another 17 to 20 hours of HDR content? And if this doesn’t fix the issue should I try to get a new panel?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@calebgriffin8638 yes to both questions, though I would give about 30-35 more hours of HDR then the refresher.

[@uhMaxx]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations why?

[@MathedeWit]

Hey Classy nice video, do you have any urls to those mp4’s or point me to the correct location, would love to check my new tv, thanks in advance!

[@Bj_90]

Do I have to have a video playing on KZbin before I do this i’m having the same problem I want to give this a shot but I only have about 80 some hours on the TV but if I wait to get the full 150 to 200 hours I cannot return it if I’m not satisfied what do you suggest?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

No, just start the pixel refresher and let if finish before turning it back on.

[@Bj_90]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Thanks for the reply bro I just did it and I guess I’m going to return it $3000 for a TV and if you watch shows on Netflix like The Walking Dead or anything that’s just normal HD it shouldn’t have a snowy effect in the corners of the TV and certain shows in the middle

[@yeopschn]

Thanks for the video. Which settings do you recommend for the break-in period?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Any varying bright HDR ones that dont have a lot of black or dark areas. You can make a playlist on youtube and have it play through them when you arent home. Try to avoid ones with logos as well.

[@yeopschn]

​@@ClassyTechCalibrations Ok, will do. By the way should I watch with maximum brightness and contrast or lower them a little bit in this process?

[@MikeLaracuente]

Hey Classy, man I truly enjoy your content, thank you for sharing your knowledge. It is much appreciated. Perhaps you can help me decide on a LG G1 as oppose to a Sony A90J. I do understand that the Sony is pricey... My tv viewing is, streaming movies & tv shows(Nvidia Shield), Playstation 5 (MLB The Show 21 soon to be 22), a little Call of Duty and standard cable viewing at 1080i. I love Sony's processing, but spending about $2600 on a tv hurts. lol. So, I wanted to know in your opinion would someone like me who loves Sony so much, be happy with the G1. I like the fact that LG G1 has that 5 yr warranty (Big Plus). Based on my viewing preferences... And I totally understand, that this is all subjective. I would like to hear or in this case read on some of the things to consider in buy an LG G1... Any and all feed back would be greatly appreciated. I see that you are very passionate about this subject, and if am not not mistaken you have your ISF certification. And have seen some of you videos on testing and comparisons, so I know that you know what you are talking about. Once again, thank you for any consideration.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

For the money saved, you are playing games, and if you watch sports, the G1 is a great option and better in those areas. The 1080i would be sharper on the A90J, but hard to justify the cost difference for that.

[@caringiscuring7011]

I tried this on my new lg c2 and it became way too dim and now i am worried alot

[@joaquinsole3434]

HDR content in KZbin via Shield TV Pro? If so, you need to make a video on that!!

[@satyak1337]

Recently bought TCL5 2021 series TV after suggestion from fomo and team.. unfortunately it has banding issues, how to fix it ?

[@SSNebula]

There isn't a TV out there that doesn't have at least one flaw in uniformity. Those that are fine in 1-15% grey have pink tinting or vignetting, if they don't have this then they have DSE or heavy image retention... I see these types of TV daily at the office and only TV I've seen with 100% uniformity in the greyscale was a Sony yet it had vignetting in the yellows and had horizontal lines across the screen in every type of content! You can either just deal with it and be happy with what you have or you can keep playing panel lottery to only have better uniformity in one colour but there may be another issue! Last thing I'll say is this, I have had several OLEDs (currently personally own a C and G1) and several QLEDS, plasmas, CRT etc etc and not a single one has been perfect. I hope this helps you cope with it and as long as it's not noticeable in normal viewing content just try to deal with it as you're just playing the panel lottery to which you'll almost certainly loose my friend. 👍

[@KaganRustem]

Do all new panels suffer from this? If only a few suffer from this then I'm sending mine back, I'm not prepared to pay the pricetag of a 77" OLED to have in some senses a worse ummage than my 5 year old budget LCD I paid 1/5th the price for. I just unboxed my brand new 77" CX and it's has very pronounced banding which after about 5 hours of use is still extremely visible.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

It is very common. Give it at least 20 hours and run the pixel refresher then decide how it looks if you want to swap it.

[@cms5635]

I've seen that you run the color slides for break in before calibration. Should you do both and in what order?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

I do slides if I'm sleeping or going to be gone for more than a few hours. Otherwise I do HDR videos on KZbin or UHD BluRay (Planet Earth, etc). HDR gets brighter and the panel warmer. Order doesn't matter, just keep it varied. Try not to use the demos where most the screen is black. I don't let KZbin play over night as I don't know what it will choose to auto play. You could make a playlist though.

[@You_Can_FOO_It]

I’m on my second X95J, and on panning shots (especially white backgrounds) I see what looks to be the LED grid (vertical and horizontal). Is this normal? Both TVs had the same issue.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Yeah it seems to be a common thing on them, especially 75/85" models.

[@You_Can_FOO_It]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations ugh 😑. Do OLEDs have the same issues? It’s very annoying.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@You_Can_FOO_It to a lesser extent. It's easier to get a clean OLED than a clean LCD

[@You_Can_FOO_It]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Thanks for the info and all of your detailed videos! You’re one of the main reasons I went with the X95. Great image, just don’t know about the “banding” issues. Should I replace it again, or switch to a different model all together? I don’t buy tv’s often and want to make the best choice. Streaming and movies with some gaming is my use case. Thanks in advance!

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@You_Can_FOO_It I reviewed the 65" and didn't seem to be an issue on that size. So I'm not sure how noticeable it is. If it's visible and distracting in real content then either exchange or give OLED a try.

[@yambu007]

Thanks for the video. Is the pink tint fixed with calibration? Or, would you return it? I have a C1 and the pink gets bad at angles.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

No, calibration can't do anything for that.

[@yambu007]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations thanks

[@danieljohansson3607]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations I recently bought the C1 65" and it suffers from the pink tint. Its even visible when watching Tv with greyish/whiteisch scenes and has totally ruined the experience for me. Do I understand it correctly that this wont be "fixed over time"?

[@LeboPlays]

You payed a lot for this you shouldn’t settle for this type of quality control. I pixel cleaned and it didn’t help! So I’m geting it replaced.

[@yod1213]

True but its just a fact of life. Now if we lf screamed at these companies about this loud enough then maybe it could change but til then we just have to deal with this reality

[@LeboPlays]

My replacement was better for anyone who cares I suggest if your banding looks like the one in the vid get a replacement

[@DevilishTay]

tech giant said that this degrades ur panel whats ur opinion on that? it even says so on the sony website about their tvs

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Only with excessive use, as in don't do it every day or something. Once or twice in the beginning won't hurt anything.

[@larchielad]

Cant find slide links in your links

[@Daniel-eFootball]

So that Easily Fix is to use Pixel Cleaning from TV menu ? Because for me do not make any change !

[@superbn0va]

I heard that pixel cleaning could hurt your pannel? Or is that only after using it more than once?

[@SSNebula]

If you use it often it can degrade your panel but a few times will be fine especially with the LG models. Sony says to only use it if there's severe image issues but with LG their algorithm for pixel cleaning seems to be very much more user friendly. 🤘🏻

[@superbn0va]

@@SSNebula i have Panasonic

[@coblad2927]

How can i fix color banding on my 55 c1?

[@henryhenderson8743]

I have pinkish hue band on white or grey content on about 5% of the left side of my panel. Would this work?

[@humqmap]

I have the exact same issue. Did you manage to rectify the problem?

[@henryhenderson8743]

@@humqmap so I haven't tried this yet as tbh i don't notice it, unless I really look for it or run tests. Everything else is absolutely perfect so I don't wanna play the lottery. Im at 1000hrs and at 2000 it runs the auto full pixel refresh .

[@sanzana9690]

Can someone tell me how to run a grayscale test dont know how that works

[@MC-jb9uf]

Hi Classy, Do you always keep the Screen Move option off? Thanks for the vids

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

I keep it off yes. It doesn't show full resolution and crops the image a bit when it's on.

[@planetarydislocation3495]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations hi, is this the screen shift option? What do you mean with "it doesn't show full resolution" when it's on?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@planetarydislocation3495 yes. In order for it to work it cuts some of the image off so it can keep moving it.

[@alexlloyd5363]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Yes, it crops, but it's a good way to prevent for burn in

[@arvinjjj]

Is this applicable to phones with OLED?

[@lethalblood2651]

For led tv works?

[@BigEd152]

How do you fix this on Hisense u7g

[@fieldroaster21]

Hey quick question @Classy Tech Calibrations Got my 65" C2 about a month ago and wasn't informed on this issue. Have watched prob around 100 hours since then, varied content. Does your described method above still work for addressing vertical banding at this point?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Yeah you can still run the pixel refresh

[@fieldroaster21]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations thoughts on running this vid prior to the refresh, rather than HDR content? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nV66iKmgYrB9Y5I

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@fieldroaster21 HDR content will get the pixels brighter.

[@NarutoUzumaki-no5mm]

I have a tcl 43p715 will this work for it too

[@mefistolhl]

this procedure fix also pink color?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

No, nothing you can do about that.

[@TheGuyFromCali]

So I just bought a brand new C1 OLED about a month ago. Today I noticed that when certain colors come on the screen (all inputs and streaming) I am getting a thin, blue line from the top of the screen straight down. It's only in one place and seems to go away during certain frequencies and color changes on screen and reappears as fast as it leaves. Any ideas?

[@sprungrobin9978]

I see this on mine to on the left side notice it on when screen is white like watching hockey

[@TheGuyFromCali]

@@sprungrobin9978 Mine got way worse over the next couple days. Started to get thick white lines down it and then stopped turning on. The TV was less than 30 days old an LG sent a repairman to my house and refused to replace it and said that it has to be fixed three different times before they’ll replace it. I was able to talk Best Buy into returning the TV and giving me a brand new one

[@sprungrobin9978]

@@TheGuyFromCali must be a different issue than mine, these oleds are not perfect..

[@CC3782-r9n]

Classy, would this work for the A80J?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Yes, just go to general settings and I believe its in the display settings area, a page or two before where you go to change the HDMI settings.

[@Jordanfiend361]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations it has a pixel refresh and also a panel refresh? Which is the one we should run and which one shouldn’t we

[@chrisbytwerk3712]

What are you referring to when making your xbox x stop at 800 nits? How do you do that? Great video.

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

In the HDR calibration menu on the second and third patterns you go all the way left then count ten clicks to the right. That's 800nits.

[@chrisbytwerk3712]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations is this on the xbox menu, or the tv?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

@@chrisbytwerk3712 in the Xbox video settings

[@chrisbytwerk3712]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations got it, thanks.

[@trumpameri1638]

Classy do you have video about ABL OLED and how to avoid this during gameplay??

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

I can do a quick video on disabling the dimming in games soon.

[@trumpameri1638]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations thanks classy...

[@galsteinberg8010]

video starts at 2:12

[@TipsandTripsFC]

Hey Classy, is there a way to do this on a80j? I have 77 inch and I think I have seen some minor vertical banding.

[@LuptonianPrince]

Same. It's called panel refresh.

[@larryallen7224]

Could the dirty issues also be like clear dots like for a example when i look at yhe clouds on my g1 77inch it looks dirty or smeared image?

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

Im not sure I understand completely. Try using full screen grey or white slides to check for issues. I put a link to download them in the description of this video.

[@larryallen7224]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations ok

[@BigFatLird]

Just tried this on a new A90J but turned the TV back on prematurely before the pixel refresh was done. Do I need to restart the whole 10 hours of HDR again before doing another? Thanks!

[@GrinchyBoby]

No you can start the Pixel refresher without 10 hrs of hdr

[@BigFatLird]

@@GrinchyBoby thanks for the reply!

[@colefellner5718]

Do you use 55 color on Dolby vision gaming? C1 user! - thanks

[@ClassyTechCalibrations]

You can leave pretty much all DV settings alone.

[@colefellner5718]

@@ClassyTechCalibrations thanks

[@adamj1326]

@Keep It Classy Tech My C1 is great for banding but I've been noticing a lot of pink tin lately. I swear it's gotten worse. I was watching Harry Potter and I could see the pink on their faces on the left 25% of the screen. Is there anything that can be done about it or should I be calling LG for a replacement?

[@Real.384]

No it's good u got a evo panel aka u have the G1 panel

[@Labyriiint]

@@Real.384 who tf wants a evo panel if it comes with pink tint lmao

[@SSNebula]

@@Real.384 and this is why us at AV forums hate people like you lol that's not normal (what the OP posted) a little bit of patch and a few streaks are normal maybe a band or two but not seeing pink in the manner described is anywhere near normal but because he has a "evo panel" you're saying to keep it? That's like owning a PS5 or Series X with a broken power cable and keeping it because they're scarce to get hold of! Jesus.

[@abxygaming9460]

Is this for any panal or just OLED

[@adamj1326]

@Naser Magde OLED. they won't cover it under warranty. LG sent a tech out and they said it's "normal". So I'm stuck with it. It's definitely a piss off. I wish I had seen it before the return period. I'm half tempted to go buy another one and if it's good just put this one in the box and take it back. Not sure if they check the serial number at the store.

[@GokuTheGreat3441]

No, do not do this because of a little banding guys... What this does is, it tried to even out the whole screen, and evens out its self lit pixels, to match the rest of the screen. So, if you used one side of the screen more then the other, it will even it to that light level, and dim it to that. Only do this if you have lots od banding and such, AFTER 200 hours of usage and still having banding.

[@alternatetakes345]

No it doesn't. I've used manual refresh on my b9 many times, and my screen is bright as hell, and still in good shape. Stop telling people it's bad for the tv. It wouldn't be a standard feature if it happened the screen. It would be hidden in a service menu. I'm sick of seeing posts from period just saying it's bad because they read it from an "expert" on Reddit

[@your_alter_ego]

Did not get fixed at all

[@TheCorne87]

Mine is even worse now it's a misleading video!

[@_DrDrakeRamoray]

Does this work on LED? I have a samsung that has these issues.

[@TheGivenSoul]

Good question

[@JB-vc6xj]

BE CAREFULL PEOPLE! Only perform a manual pixel-cleaning if it's absolutely necessary! Each refresh shortens the lifespan of the panel. This should normally only be done after each 2000 (+/-) hours! It's better to accept a little banding than shortening the lifespan of your panel.

[@MWKRider]

This has been debunked again and again. Even LG says there is no harm running it a few times early. Stop spreading misinformation.

[@JB-vc6xj]

@@MWKRider Do your homework dude, every brand advises differently on this. Sony, for example, recommends doing it only once a year or less while LG says it won't hurt if you do it more often.. You don't know what you're talking about!

[@SSNebula]

@@JB-vc6xj yeah exactly. LG says it's OK to run but Sony are more strict I think it's to do with the algorithms in the pixel cleaning because Sony still buy their panels from LG so it can't be because of the panel... makes a man wonder 🤔

[@Jordanfiend361]

The new Sony oleds have pixel refresh and a manual panel refresh. What’s the difference and which should we leave on?