How To Enter The Traffic Pattern - CJ4 WorkingTitle Mod + Savage Grravel FS2020

[@harrybassett9433]

Your tutorials are getting better and better and you started from a very high mark. Thank you for all the effort you put in - it really is appreciated - videos like these are priceless for newbies like me.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I am glad you like them. If I can teach someone to fly in a real airplane I can surely help people learn to fly a sim with the tools given to me with FS2020. I try to push myself to make each video a little different and a little better than the last video. Most of the time!

[@dragoclarke9497]

Seconded, with the added comment that even seasoned RW pilots, as well as sim pilots, can learn from your videos.

[@Ron-cz8bt]

If anyone's heard of the instructor to the Kahn Academy, TCPD instructs and closely sounds like him. His mannerism is calm, clear instructions, easy to understand. Thank you!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Kahn Academy is great! And your welcome and thanks for the comments!

[@Ron-cz8bt]

I couldn't believe you started out at IMS! Because in 2018, I was able to take hot laps on the speedway in my Z06. And, I hadn't seen the speedway in MSFS2020 yet. It looks Identical to what I recall. Again, thank you for all your videos with amazing instruction and commentary! By the way, another sincere compliment to you is there's no way you've been flying for 25 yrs because you sound like you're in your twenties! I'm sure everyone would concur. LOL.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

That's very cool that you got to be on track in your own car. They used to let people drive their own cars but didn't know they brought that back. I started flying in 1995. I'm in my 40s now. I've been flying for a job since 2000.

[@PilotStudd]

Keep it up with this great tutorials!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thanks B! I hope I make it to 6k subs as fast as you did.

[@elpidiomanuelalvarenga4223]

Thanks from a real student pilot. Very good!

[@nuitdamnant]

love it! The overhead shots are great!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you. I wish they were as easy as they looked. Those took some time to get but I wanted a different perspective.

[@gotgravel]

Nice work! Cool you're using the Savage Grravel for this one ;-)

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You did an amazing job with that airplane. I love it. It spins better than any airplane in FS2020 and it's the closest thing we have to helicopters with its ability to almost takeoff from a standstill. I'll be using it in videos when I can. Any thoughts on making Mike Patey's Draco?

[@gotgravel]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks! I just updated Grravel to v1.2.3...4 bladed prop and war boost. Fantastic acceleration. Accurate flight model. You'll love it! Draco? We all want that one! But for now we have Grravel, getting closer to Scrappy by the day.

[@thecelebspy]

Thank you for making these tutorial videos. Subscribed!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you. They are lots of work but glad people are getting a lot out of them.

[@vinnyb.6524]

Your video's are very informative and look great. Please continue the good work. Would really like to know what system you are using to get such good performance. The sim is so smooth and the graphics are just outstanding. Thanks, Vinny B.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thanks so much! I try to make each video better as I go. My system specs are: Intel Core i9 - 9900KF - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER - 1TB HDD + 480GB SSD

[@weircottage]

Super helpful videos. Many thanks

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Very welcome. There is one mistake in this video. I descended to pattern altitude while on the 45 degree entry. When on the 45, the airplane should be AT pattern altitude. If my memory serves correct, this was mentioned in the video, but in case it wasn't, now you know.

[@artalvar55]

Agree with Harry. Better and better and extremelly usfuel. Concise, brief and to the point. Thank you for that Tim. Trully appreciate it. One of the most, at least for me, tricky, critical or difficult manuevers or procedures is the "Circle-to-Land". It seems to me that many things can go wrong in a very short period of time and in sequence. I am just wondering if you could provide some example with the CJ4. Thanks Tim and again, I am always lookinf forward to your very instructive videos. Congrats.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Circle to land is actually one of the 3 videos I am working on. I recorded one but didn't like it. I will be doing a CTL tutorial soon. The CJ4 will be used but the FMS doesn't do everything I want it to do in relation to how we do it in real life in the FMS. IRL, we can draw the circling radius off the end of the runway and actually enter the runway we're landing on for landing info after loading the approach to a different runway. The WTM won't do that yet but I am sure it will eventually. I just counted and I have 14 video ideas on my list. Plenty more to come! I am trying for one video per week but the next video may be longer than a week out due to my schedule.

[@artalvar55]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thank you Tim. Truly apprecaite it. Based on your experience, how far out do you think the folks from Working Titles are on the Pro Line 21?, if we were to scale it from 0- Not real to 100- Very real.?This is the very first Pro Line 21 that I see EVER working in ANY SIM after more than 20+ yrs of exp on the SIM. How far out, from "reality" is the current CJ4 version including the WT group MOD ?..Thank you Tim and I am looking forward to your next videos. Alot of work but truly appreciate it. Regards.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@artalvar55 As far as functionality with the FMS and avionics I'd say they are at LEAST 75% of the way there if not more Some stuff in the FMS doesn't work that I would like to see work, but I am still very happy with what they have done so far. Asobo and their default CJ4 would be about 10% and that is being generous. I am very thankful for the effort and time WTM group has done and continue to do.

[@artalvar55]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Absolutly. The WT team has perform an outstanding job. No doubt about it. As I mentioned it, it is the FIRST EVER ProLine 21 I have seen working or getting closer to the reality, in any SIM EVER. I hope they continue with the aerodynamics/config files of the CJ4. A beautiful piece. Thank you Tim again and best regards.

[@tarlot.9757]

Hi! Another great video. Can I ask in the CJ4 how to do the squak ident? The button is on left top of the yoke but you can't click it! Thanks

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I wish I knew the answer for that but I do not. You're right, if you click Ident on the yoke it disappears. You may want to reach out to the Working Title Mod guys and see what they have to say. It may not be modelled.

[@RobertHopkinsArt]

Everything, and more than I asked for. Thanks TCPD1!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Bonus! We still have to learn about exiting the traffic pattern.

[@exploring_thailand]

Thanks for another very useful video. I'd like to ask about flying a pattern from take-off in the Mooney. It gains speed and altitude very quickly in comparison to the Cessna 172. I'm guessing that you should take off on full power, so at what point, and by how much should you reduce the power? I tend to start reducing it when turning crosswind and try get the rate of climb down to about 500 feet per minute until reaching pattern height, but I've no idea whether that is the way you are supposed to fly it or not.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

That depends on preference. In real life, engine failures can occur when throttle changes are made. So usually, power is not reduced until a safe altitude is reached. The definition of safe altitude changes from place to place based on terrain. You would always use full power for takeoff unless there were numbers for reduced power takeoffs. Reducing power when turning crosswind would be a good place for a power reduction.

[@exploring_thailand]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Okay. Thanks a lot.In that case, I'll keep practicing reducing power on crosswind.

[@texasvirgo1]

Thank you for all your hard work. Amazing tutorials!!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You're very welcome.

[@jridge16]

Great video - until you got to programming the CJ4 computer - you lost me there. If I'm learning about traffic patterns, probably not ready to program CJ4 computers ;) Also, looks like the link you posted for the Pilot's Handboook of Aeronautical Knowledge is actually to the Boarding Area Podcast.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I'm working on more basic tutorials with VFR procedures. Thanks for letting me know about the bad link. It is now fixed. All I did in the CJ4 FMS is make a point for a 3 mile final in the example that ATC instructs us to join a 3 mile right base. That fix just gives a waypoint at 3 miles from the end of the runway.

[@icecold9511]

Question about reporting actions in a traffic pattern, particularly with several planes in the pattern. Doesn't that get to be a mess of people jamming a channel while the controller is giving instructions? And thanks. 45 degrees down wind. Is there a particular speed people should use? I'm guessing thats a trick, as Cessnas can't go as fast as some planes stall speed, I'm guessing that is where the 500 ft vertical separation comes in. But you also probably don't want people lapping each other like it's the indy 500. I was wondering about entry, as it it can be dicey people entering where they please. A lot of the charts I find, now using little navmap and its linked site pages, don't tell you what they want.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

At towered airports position calls are not given or required unless ATC asks and they may say report downind. The communciation from the pilot would be, "N12345 is downwind." Simple. At a non-towered airport it can get to be busy but not bad. The calls are a little longer but as long as people pay attention and don't key the mic when others are transmitting, it is fine. I've had as many as 7 airplanes in the traffic pattern at once when I was flight instructing. Particular speed on the 45 entry - no. It depends on the airplane. Don't be fast but don't be slow. Most airplanes will probably be 30-40 knots above final approach speed by the 45 entry or shortly after it. The Aeronautical Information Manual (AIM) is a free U.S. publication and that is a good source for more info on this and about anything imaginable when it comes to aviation. Enjoy - www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aim_html/index.html

[@icecold9511]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks. Putting it all to use and learning. 3 vor flights, last one using KPIE FL reciprocal until I could pick up destination vor KEYW. Even dealing with fs2020 idea of airspace classes, and learning about them IRL. It tends to ignore C, as far as I can tell. Maybe a mod with better ATC.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@icecold9511 ATC in FS2020 is awful. Have you seen my 2 VOR videos? One uses Navigraph so the airplane's position can be seen while flying which is very useful. The other one is a little more in depth and one of my earlier videos. Would you like to see a video on airspace? Others have said they would like to see it.

[@icecold9511]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Oh yeah, airspace. One question I had when moving between Tampa B and Sarasota C, was how that was handled. I assume IRL Tampa approach handled both areas, that that handled both all in one. I certainly can't squawk 2 transponder codes. I did confirm Miami approach, apparently handles south Florida traffic even on the east coast, griped when my transponder was off. I'm currently using little navmap by alt tabbing to desk top and taking headset off. Examining other in sim apps, as that gets annoying. Same for taxiway maps. And vfr for vr has bad taxiway maps. Starting to wish I had a flip up vr headset.

[@5milessep]

The very last segment (5 mile final into KIND 23R), I noticed that you already had flaps 30 on the base to final turn. However your gear was still up but there was no audio announcement of “Landing Gear” heard. I always get this at flaps 30. Any idea how to stop this ? Great tutorial BTW.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I had flaps 15 then gear down then flaps full. I went back and looked because if I slew the airplane the gear is always up after slewing. If the gear isn't down with flaps beyond the first notch you'll get the audible warning " landing gear". That is part of the Ground Proximity Warning System (GPWS). That can't be silenced even in real life in any airplane I've flown. I'm not sure if it's modeled but the same system will say things like "TOO LOW FLAPS", Sink rate, etc. The gear warning cannot be canceled. I also turn my audio down when I record so it is possible if I did have flaps 30 before gear down you may not have heard the warning.

[@5milessep]

@@thecorporatepilotdad thank you for the quick response. I think I need to wear my glasses, you were at flaps 15, and it makes sense now. 👍

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@5milessep It's all good. I had to go back and look because I thought I messed up.

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

Where can you find a rectangle to practice your traffic pattern? Pretty much any place in the mid west! It is not possible in the North East no such thing exists! Another great video! 😁🛫you are doing a fine job.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You are right. Where I grew up all the roads went north east south or west. One road was at an angle and it was called Angling Road. But nothing is more prominent than IMS.

[@Maddog-he5uf]

Well done, thank you!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you so much. I did a poll a few weeks ago and people said they wanted VFR procedure videos so this is it and I'll have more. Some people also voted to see funny cat videos (I included that in the poll as a joke). I actually have an idea for that but no promises if it will work out or not.

[@johnknapp952]

Pretty sure you got lapped while flying the Brick Yard. 😎

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

By a go-kart!

[@JenniferinIllinois]

And where can you fly a perfect rectangle? Yep, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Hehehe...

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

And it even has rounded off corners just like the airplane's path over the ground in a traffic pattern. Just genius!