How to fix DEATH WOBBLE on Ford F-250 & F-350 | Dual Steering Stabilizer

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@drjas63
@drjas63 Жыл бұрын
2012 F350 Super Duty Crew Cab Long Bed I want to share my experience with everyone stepping into the “death wobble” game. I have been driving Chevys for the last 30 years, so I was a stranger to the death wobble issue that Fords are plagued with. I bought the truck used at a Ford dealer in October of 2020. It was in very good cosmetic shape and what seemed to be good engine and transmission condition. It had 185,000 miles on it. The tires were all new as well. In the first month, I had some serious vibration issues coming from the front left tire. Ford had used a third party to install this set of tires, so I went to the installer to have them checked. Clearly, the front left tire had a ‘rise’ on it. Even though the business acknowledged it, they refused to warranty it - and they only had about 100 miles on them. I had the tire put on the rear to get the vibration out of the front end. Fast forward to November of 2021 - This was the first time I had a death wobble on the truck. I thought it was a flat tire. It did it twice on the trip and I was perplexed because I couldn’t find any issue that would merit such a horrible gyration. After that day, it was intermittent and random. But as the months passed, it became more frequent. After having pull this stunt in big city traffic on overhead freeways, I knew something had to be done. I took it to an old school wheel alignment shop that I have been using for years. They were very familiar with the issue and kept a stock of the necessary Ford OEM parts to replace everything with. However, it did not fix the issue. After a couple of months, I purchased the SuperLift Dual Steering Stabilizer kit and the required 3-inch leveler (I found mine on AmericanTrucks.com) with Bilstein Shocks for the front. I took the truck to a local diesel mechanic, and he swore that the stabilizer kit would do nothing for the death wobble. He pointed out some parts he believed to have play in them and guaranteed me that replacing those would fix it. He was wrong. I did not have him put the kit on afterwards. I took the truck home and decided to do the work myself. I wanted to put in the shocks first and test it to see if that alleviated the issue before putting on the stabilizer kit. On removing the stock shocks, the left one was clearly shot and the right one was right behind it. I put the leveler kit on installed the new shocks with a new trackbar bracket to compensate for the added height. I had it realigned, and the problem was worse than before. I then installed the SuperLift Dual Steering Stabilizer kit and the issue stopped. I have taken it over bad spot I know that would throw it into convulsions before and it never went into the wobble. Therefore, for me, the stabilizer kit did fix the issue. There is no doubt for me that the tires are a part of the issue. But eating another $2,000 bucks to replace tires that have 10,000 miles on them is quite unattractive. For now, this will carry me to the point when I’m ready to purchase a new set. This has been my experience with the whole issue - not just conjecture. I hope it helps someone else trying to fix this idiotic setup by Ford. #superlift #americantrucks #bilstein
@bipedal_earth_roamer
@bipedal_earth_roamer 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing. How’s your death wobble currently? A shop has replaced all the usual suspected parts and never solved the issue. I installed caster shims but it still goes into fits over 60mph. Although they’re adjustable shims and I have not yet checked the alignment. It’s very possible I did it wrong. I’m about $3200 into this problem and getting a bit stressed.
@drjas63
@drjas63 6 ай бұрын
@@bipedal_earth_roamer The steering stabilizer kept the death wobble in check. When on a trip, one of the tire treads separated and put a new set of Goodyear Wranglers on, which improved the vibration the cheap tires used to produce. I have yet to experience another death wobble since installing the steering stabilizer kit. I know some on here are bent on it not being the fix - but I went through replacing most all of the front-end components, only to have the death wobble return. The kit was the only thing that stopped it.
@geraldleonotiamiller8629
@geraldleonotiamiller8629 10 ай бұрын
2013 F-350 Lariat, 125K miles, Nitto tires, no lift. Started the DW. Took it in to front end shop. Ball joints needed replacing and right front tire had a belt letting loose. Replaced ball joints, front end alignment and a new set of Michelina. Fixed. Now I’m putting this damper kit on for extra safety. Feels like a new truck. Pulled my TT over 500miles last week. All seems well.
@TinaStOnge-sp3km
@TinaStOnge-sp3km 11 ай бұрын
Steering stabilizers is a band aid. The problem is caster. The ford Super duty runs about 1- 1 1/2 positive caster (not enough). Remove the stock bushing and install an eccentric bushing in the upper ball joint taper. You can buy aftermarket bushings to increases positive caster to 4-5 degrees. This will cause slightly harder steering but should not be a problem with power steering. Positive caster also helps the steering to return to center easier.
@codyhenry3926
@codyhenry3926 9 ай бұрын
Please read my comment above
@juantootri2721
@juantootri2721 4 ай бұрын
does that affect the alignetment?
@TinaStOnge-sp3km
@TinaStOnge-sp3km 2 ай бұрын
@@juantootri2721 Caster angle does not cause tire wear. Caster angle does not affect toe in or camber angle. Caster angle effects the steering, positive caster helps keep the steering return to center after turning. Positive caster helps stabilize steering impact when hitting bumps or pavement breaks in the road. all vehicles need some positive caster angle.
@hawkdaddy64
@hawkdaddy64 9 ай бұрын
I just put this on my 19 F-250 and it made a huge difference in the stability and drivability.
@rayjarboe9990
@rayjarboe9990 7 ай бұрын
As a 25 Year Ford Tech here specializing in Front End work, this is not always the fix. Tires and incorrect air pressure are a major factor, but I install aftermarket adjustable Caster angle bushings to increase the caster angle to above 4 degrees. That with a new aftermarket steering stabilizer (Not necessarily a dual one) always does the trick. Good luck everyone.
@qcan8468
@qcan8468 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised you did not mention checking the tie rod and drag ends and ball joints for wear prior to the install.
@allenjones4862
@allenjones4862 Жыл бұрын
yeah when the whole tire moves out of toe in and camber and you can see the tire doing, that ain't steering damper fix
@trevormangus7832
@trevormangus7832 2 жыл бұрын
Stabilizer is not a fix. Bandaid at best. Castor angle increases are a must. Ford and other trucks manufacturer add limited castor to make steering easy at low speeds but that was originally derived from old vehicles w/o power steering on solid axle trucks. Compared to performance cars that are extremely stable at high speeds It has to do with the centering angle of the wheel in relation to the center line of the axle more castor more stability ford should add +2 to 3 degrees more than they do Castor bushings fix the problem even companies that make lift kits have in their instructions to add castor with alignment
@deepsouthoutdoors5737
@deepsouthoutdoors5737 Жыл бұрын
B.s .. alignment does nothing for wobble.. its the damper… take your damper off and see if u have a wobble… read a book
@mikeadams42
@mikeadams42 Жыл бұрын
@@deepsouthoutdoors5737that’s hilarious, I replaced my stabilizer. The death wobble didn’t go away. Try reading info on caster, caster will and does fix it.
@ThugByChoice
@ThugByChoice 9 ай бұрын
Hey guys no need for that, we all like cars let’s be nice to each other.
@codyhenry3926
@codyhenry3926 9 ай бұрын
Please read my comment above
@F450FTW
@F450FTW 9 ай бұрын
Caster higher than 4 degrees is the key to no death wobble in Super Duties.
@danielgeng2306
@danielgeng2306 Жыл бұрын
Unlike many of the experts in the comment section, I’ll assume you meant installing these wasn’t in place of replacing existing faulty parts . Sheessh I believe you also mentioned part of the issue is aftermarket oversized tires, not “if your tie rod ends are shot do this and it’ll fix it” lol another great video Mason thanks! Pennsylvania roads suck too !
@gerardkavanagh144
@gerardkavanagh144 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Ford owner; however, I watch your channel for the technical advice and expertise (Thank you Sir).
@frankr.3513
@frankr.3513 2 жыл бұрын
My 2002 Super Duty steering Damper is blown out and does not have the death wobble. Caster and and Camber are the real reason for the unintended steering wheel oscillations.
@RoosterQ
@RoosterQ Ай бұрын
It tried to run me in the ditch without any real noticeable bump. I had heard of this but had never experienced it until it just happened to my 2017 F250. I will definitely be adding this kit to my truck.
@johnchafin3817
@johnchafin3817 Жыл бұрын
I need this! I have a 2017. Will have the dealership do its replacement via tje extended warranty then add this to it as well. I just tense up everytime I hit a big bump anymore... LOL
@justtl5885
@justtl5885 Жыл бұрын
Happened to me at 70mph on the interstate. Nine thousand miles, BONE STOCK, like new 2019 F350 SRW 6.2 Unloaded,not towing,tires at recommended psi. Four lanes of interstate traffic at rush hour.Scared my wife so bad she's afraid to ride in the truck. Last Ford I'll ever own.
@shenalally2214
@shenalally2214 Жыл бұрын
Just happened JUST NOW 75 mph heavy traffic.
@tealtoad19
@tealtoad19 Жыл бұрын
Me too ... 2019 F-350 ... wife is pissed after all the money we dumped in the truck! Had Fords all my life ... I think death wobble will be the end of a long line of Fords in my driveway!
@clg763
@clg763 Жыл бұрын
Just happened to me today trailering my 2019 F350 with a 15,000lb load, going 80mph with family in the car. The stupid thing just violently shook so badly I thought I had an accident, I was in the fast lane of three lanes of traffic and this death wobble came within inches of sending us into the concrete median. I slammed on the brakes so hard the trailer tires locked up and started jacknifing. In a decade of trailing full time for job I have never had an incident as terrifying as that. I want nothing to do with my truck if that's how it was designed.
@John5ive
@John5ive 11 ай бұрын
​@clg763 you tow 15000 lbs @ 80mph with your family in the truck? wow
@dan-xe2xt
@dan-xe2xt 8 ай бұрын
@@clg763that’s a pretty drastic overreaction. Calmly slow down and pull over on the shoulder if you have to. I drive semi’s and it happens occasionally to us in some older trucks. Usually if you slow down enough it will stop. Not saying it’s a problem that shouldn’t be fixed but don’t be reckless.
@fixinman1156
@fixinman1156 2 жыл бұрын
Fix the loose track bar balljoint or other and put some more negative caster in it and fix it correctly.
@deepsouthoutdoors5737
@deepsouthoutdoors5737 Жыл бұрын
Caster , camber or any other front end alignment has no effect on the death wobble.
@tomiamonico8855
@tomiamonico8855 6 ай бұрын
​@@deepsouthoutdoors5737 bro you've said that twice but maybe you don't understand how caster works. In this truck there is a shim that sets caster. The negative caster has resolved DW for many people! It helps the wheels want to stay straight. So there could be other problems, or not. But yes just doing negative caster has fixed death wobble for many people.
@27dmarshall
@27dmarshall 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Saved in my "F-250" KZbin folder incase I run across this issue in the future.
@georgesingfield4353
@georgesingfield4353 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the advice on my f250 front-end
@michaelgood1791
@michaelgood1791 Жыл бұрын
I had that same issue on a 2019 F350 that I tow a car hauler trailet with. I had an episode where it shook so violently I thought the fillings were going to shake out of my teeth.
@nimatalknimatalk1788
@nimatalknimatalk1788 Жыл бұрын
Mason, appreciate you for this info. The dealer is quick to install the same manufacturer damper but with this new info, thank you bro.
@rocky19811969
@rocky19811969 Жыл бұрын
Dang I guess I missed the part where this kit needs a 3" lift kit..what a bummer ordered mine on the link from Amazon in this vid!!! What a hassle thankfully the company has just releases a non lifted (stock version) of this kit but gotta wait and send this back to Amazon and it's a customers truck yeyy!
@420face
@420face 4 ай бұрын
As stated by a few. You need to check all your suspension components before you just go throwing this thing on there. A good suspension doesn’t need a stabilizer, but if you have a lift and big tires your suspension geometry is probable a little off and this might be the only thing that keeps it from wobbling. Also consider the larger rebounding forces of bigger tires, shocks, etc. On my jeep I found that stock suspension parts are not enough once you lift it and put big tires on it. With larger suspension components it doesn’t even need a stabilizer. Once I fixed it all I put one on just for giggles.But i ran a dual setup for years before I figured this out. Dual stabilizers just puts more stress on the gear box too. Don’t expect it to fix your problem if your problem is bad ball joints and tie rods.
@jimbobxcityguy5338
@jimbobxcityguy5338 2 жыл бұрын
Ford fixed my wobble with the TSB out on it. Simple and free.
@ToddAdams1234
@ToddAdams1234 10 ай бұрын
You can also try one of those steering setups that the rock crawlers use. It’s just a dual acting hydraulic ram system that uses the OE power steering pump. It LOOKS LIKE a ginormous steering shock, but it’s (obviously) got it’s own hydraulic power going to it. Don’t think that you’re gonna be able to do away with the factory mechanical steering pieces though, because the DOT and any law enforcement worth their salt will come unglued and right you a BIGGG ticket if they spot it.
@patsaunders6035
@patsaunders6035 2 жыл бұрын
@7:15 you shined your light on what the most common problem is for DW on a SD and I'm curious coming from a for tech if your shop has the right equipment for tightening that track bar bolt to 406lb with not letting the nut/bolt spin. You can see the discoloration on the track bar bracket from it being loose originally, but regardless if I don't know what I'm talking about then can you explain how you made a video on how to do/ what to do if you have DW and your answers was "throw a dual stabilizer on it" without addressing all the new components you put on it. Also future points to look at is if the gearbox has excessive play. When you take off the drag link at the Pittman arm, go ahead and watch how much play is in the pitman arm being very freely able to move left and right while the stearing shaft doesn't move at all... thats another ford only problem 🙄
@harpersperformancehorses3143
@harpersperformancehorses3143 9 ай бұрын
The double stabilizers don’t fix the issue it only masks the problem! I have learned this the hard way
@tomiamonico8855
@tomiamonico8855 6 ай бұрын
What was the solution then?
@TimStewart-x6l
@TimStewart-x6l 2 ай бұрын
Change of subject: you guys are on top of things and I respect your input My ford F350 has has an ac issue since new. It cools while at idle. Whe I speed up, it quits cooling. If I shower down on it, the ac will come back. It’s like the pressures get out of whack. Is there a simple fix for this like the death Wabble fix ?
@TimStewart-x6l
@TimStewart-x6l 2 ай бұрын
I replace every front suspension part on my Ford F350 (twice) A year ago I installed the suggested dual steering stabilizer. The super lift kit FIXED my problem. My question is: Why doesn’t Ford install these as stock ????
@johnchafin3817
@johnchafin3817 Жыл бұрын
I have the 2017 4WD with just the lift supplied by the factory. The Amazon post states it is for a 3in or higher lift. Will this work for what I have?
@johnnyo6709
@johnnyo6709 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Sounds like you know what you are talking about but inless you change to a Bd or Carli adjustable track bar , more stout than that oem track bar the stabilizer shock will not fix the problem completely. You mite think it did , bit it didn't.
@Blue_Flame_Raptor
@Blue_Flame_Raptor 2 жыл бұрын
Steering dampeners DO NOT fix or stop death wobble. That is one of the biggest misconceptions I see all the time. If you have death wobble the issue is caused by something loose like a bad track bar ball joint or bushing, tie rod/drag link joints are also super common, it can even be the tires causing it. Sure the stock stabilizers suck but they aren't going to be the root cause of death wobble, they just play a role in masking it. Slapping dual stabilizers on a truck with death wobble is like putting a bandaid on a bullet wound, not to mention the fact that dual stabilizers aren't really necessary, a quality stock replacement like the Fox ATS will vastly improve how the truck steers. Leave it to ford to keep throwing stabilizers at trucks when that's not even the main issue.
@russellaustin4988
@russellaustin4988 2 жыл бұрын
Castor angle is the biggest cause. Ford has allways been steer easy not track straight.
@KendrasEdge757
@KendrasEdge757 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Gotta replace the worn bushings, struts, track bar, etc and correct the alignment. I’m kind of surprised that a “senior master tech” would be saying that a steering stabilizer is going to fix death wobble. It will if all of the other front end components are good and not worn out or loose, but still.
@RKiller69
@RKiller69 Жыл бұрын
I have replaced all my front end parts including track bar and ball joint on a 2016 f250 still does it horrible design. Dual stabilizers with new front end parts is the best cure. I’ve heard castor adjustment helps also
@Blue_Flame_Raptor
@Blue_Flame_Raptor Жыл бұрын
@@RKiller69 could be your tires
@deepsouthoutdoors5737
@deepsouthoutdoors5737 Жыл бұрын
Man you wrote a book of b.s.. and fox sucks.. it’s clear you have no experience in straight axle trucks..
@megasquirt7548
@megasquirt7548 2 жыл бұрын
I have worked on F Series trucks that have had these and still had the death wobble. This I a tech trying to sell a product that is giving him a kick back. 9 times out of 10 the death wobble is caused by a worn track bar bushing or ball joint.
@dalebrison8298
@dalebrison8298 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 F250 with less than 30,00 miles and mine does the death wobble!!! Not saying parts cant wear out , but 30,000 miles. Got to be something more than wore out parts
@horacesawyer2487
@horacesawyer2487 Жыл бұрын
Mason, thank you. What part of the world are you? May a regular person who appreciates your attention to detail hire you or book an appointment for you at your Ford dealership for this particular job ? F250 12 needs this mod pretty badly. Just discovered it TODAY. Or I suppose I could do it myself, but the eyes and ears of an experienced professional are worth paying for and a lucky customer would be very grateful.
@jedpmg2099
@jedpmg2099 9 ай бұрын
I have a duel stabilizer made by BTS on my lift truck, and just right now I had a death wobble I guess what that it was. It was a severely sick and I thought I was gonna ride off the freeway. Definitely need to take it in to figure out what it is but it seem like it happened. I’ve got a dozen stabilizer on it now. Your thoughts help would be appreciated.
@betterthanideserve76
@betterthanideserve76 2 жыл бұрын
Not bashing, but this only masks the issue. Castor baby! Need at least -3 degrees and you need to find a shop that can do it. You can buy the shim but not al ships can do it. I do this to every superduty when I first buy them. Not once have I had the wobble
@paulwilcox6870
@paulwilcox6870 Жыл бұрын
Casters? Only? Paul again!
@scottwilcox6741
@scottwilcox6741 4 ай бұрын
Great video I'm going to have to watch some more stuff on the F-250 got a 2018
@ronniemartinez1070
@ronniemartinez1070 28 күн бұрын
Keep it up Youngin🤙🏼, and remember everyone is a critic. Opinions are like butholes everyone's has them. By the time your 30 you will have more experience than these keyboard master techs in the comments😵‍💫.... Also being open to constructive criticism will help hone your skills🫡🔧
@paulwilliams2603
@paulwilliams2603 10 ай бұрын
Does this work on a stock height truck?
@RustyClam
@RustyClam 9 ай бұрын
Are you related to Scotty Kilmer? You both talk with your arms and hands Lol 😂 I love your videos, especially the one where you got your finger caught in the water pump.
@greghofen813
@greghofen813 Жыл бұрын
Looks good, what about the loose ball joints? Had three, that needed to be replaced, only have 33,000 on my 2019 250
@arnoldelliott5695
@arnoldelliott5695 Жыл бұрын
This worries me with premature steering box failure. Isnt this alot of stress on the steering box?
@leonardball5067
@leonardball5067 Жыл бұрын
I have an '08 F450 dually that hops, wobbles (34-38 mph) and wears front tires like crazy. Spent over 7 grand on this to try and fix it. Is it possible that this could fix the problem?
@stevefrazier2214
@stevefrazier2214 25 күн бұрын
Tires, stock offset and loose steering components… We have a 2012,2016, 2017 F-350’s One set of stock wheels with a 35” Nokia winter tires death wobbles on two of the trucks with loose tie rods. No death wobble with the off set aftermarket wheels.
@BigRed-55
@BigRed-55 4 ай бұрын
Trevor, doesn’t using the “Super Lift” kit to eliminate death wobble require lifting the truck by at least 2” ?
@jaimec2006
@jaimec2006 Жыл бұрын
Good Stuff! Have a 97 expedition eddie bauer 4x4 with the Strut Master conversion kit (air bag delete)front and rear. Not sure if its "death wobble" or something else but best way to describe it is the truck feels like it is piss drunk (the truck not me). While not shaking at all, the truck likes to softly drift left or right again truck feels drunk like it wants to fall on its ass but catches itself. I recently replaced tie rods inner and outers as well as sway bar links and had it aligned and rechecked to make sure it wasn't alignment issue. The truck is lifted in front 1.5 inch torsion bars were turned and has slightly bigger tires 235/85/17 vs the stock 265/70/17. I was thinking a universal stabilizer kit may help what's your take?
@judgeparker4236
@judgeparker4236 Жыл бұрын
Ford covered mine under extended warranty on 15. They used a "new" updated dampner. Much beefier than the OE. Curious what you think of the Ford "fix". Had to wait several months as part was number 3 on Ford back ordered parts.
@jodyevans2320
@jodyevans2320 Жыл бұрын
Ford did the same for my 2018 F350. It worked for only a few months then happened again at about 60 mph while pulling a load down a hill on a busy highway. Could have easily ended in disaster! Took it back to Ford. They checked everything out and told me my truck was fine. Never been so frustrated! My front end has no modifications. I'm going to throw on the dual stabilizers as I cannot use my truck in its current state.
@tomiamonico8855
@tomiamonico8855 6 ай бұрын
​@@jodyevans2320that's scary shit and especially when the say"everything is fine." Did you ever get it figured out? Did you check caster?
@dylangarcia3782
@dylangarcia3782 Жыл бұрын
I got a 99 250 super duty xlt single cab an I’m having a few issues with mine atm…I just feel lost lol
@rooferonhigh7124
@rooferonhigh7124 Ай бұрын
I have a 2016 Ford F-250 Lariat Super Duty with 91,000 Mi and it's doing the death wobble and the truck seems to always be very bumpy.
@DennisSmall
@DennisSmall Жыл бұрын
for a 2017 F350/6.7 engine, what is the part number for the kit you are installing.
@user-ds2kx4pm1v
@user-ds2kx4pm1v Жыл бұрын
Very helpful and excellent video…..well done!
@chada472
@chada472 Ай бұрын
Its just alignment issue. If all components are in good shape increase caster and problem fixed.
@Jett1873
@Jett1873 24 күн бұрын
Does the truck need to be lifted for this to fit?
@DoublewideG
@DoublewideG Жыл бұрын
Guys, It is a Steering Damper. Not A steering dampener.
@heydeohgee
@heydeohgee 2 ай бұрын
Does the OEM steering stabilizer need to be removed? Or does everyone leave it?
@CuttingEdgeLogging_Thomas
@CuttingEdgeLogging_Thomas Жыл бұрын
2019 f550, only does the wobble when I brake hard…same fix? Rotors look fine
@DynoDieselWagon
@DynoDieselWagon Жыл бұрын
Aerated power steering pump from manually turning wheels with engine OFF on lift or jacked
@RandyB-dr2fq
@RandyB-dr2fq Жыл бұрын
Great informational video. Had this happen on our camping trip and heading back home to bring back to dealer for the warranty issue. In the mean time I ordered the dual stabilizer kit.
@jmonge1849
@jmonge1849 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information!👍
@coxdpaul
@coxdpaul 4 ай бұрын
Check out Kelderman. Superior engineering in the design. Much stronger mount
@kingranch8516
@kingranch8516 Жыл бұрын
You need to hook up with tech talk with Arod. Nice job
@robertstrickland9861
@robertstrickland9861 3 ай бұрын
will this work on a ford f550 service truck. I am starting to feel the wobble in the steering.
@dakotaobrien8845
@dakotaobrien8845 Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people talking about suspension stuff, and why you didn’t mention it. I realize you are obviously working of the assumption that they have checked the suspension for any signs of wear or play. But I do think it is worth mentioning that checking the suspension should be the first thing to do and if you dont find anything then I am with you it needs the dual stabilizer. However I have never seen a death wobble on a factory truck with no modifications and no worn out suspsension. (That doesn’t mean there isn’t a first) but I do recommend to any of my costumer who experience a death wobble to have a duel stabilizer along with upgrading the factory stabilizer with either a bilstein or fox… I would like to point out though the most common problem I have found with the death wobble that people over look is the track bar ball joint and track bar. I have had numerous times someone had it at another shop trying to fix a death wobble and they took it to me and low and behold the track bar and ball joint is about to snap
@shoeguru53
@shoeguru53 Жыл бұрын
I may be able to provide your “First” example of death wobble in a factory truck, no mods, low mileage. 2017 F250 29,000 miles, first experienced death wobble on interstate in W Virginia. I knew it was coming but honestly did not expect it until about 60,000 miles. Found a dealer who had the replacement stabilizer and installed it the same day. YES Ford. Excellent service department. Problem solved? Last week; nine months and 2500 miles later, the death wobble reappeared while towing a 15,000# fifth wheel on I-95. The Ford replacement unit had failed. Rubber bushing and bolt pulled completely out of the end. I installed a dual piston aftermarket stabilizer and problem is masked for the time being. I am going to check all joints in the drag link, tie rod and track bar, then have caster set to +6 degrees. Pretty soon a new set of tires will be on the agenda. If you think the death wobble is scary, try it with a 41’ fifth wheel pushing you. I wanted to reach down and activate the trailer brakes but I couldn’t bring myself to take my right hand off the wheel. My wife refused to ride in the truck. She got into my son-in-law’s truck for the rest of the trip.
@codyhenry3926
@codyhenry3926 9 ай бұрын
Please read my comment above
@dethangelishere394
@dethangelishere394 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the video. i have dual steering stabilizer shocks under my truck. whoever put it on removed the factory single shock that was there even though i dont think it would've been in the way. i like this one you just showed much better. the one that is under my truck right now shows rubbing wear on the shocks because the way it is manufactured, the shock hits the bracket that mounts to the diff. i either need to heat and bend it, or get another one or maybe something else. im not sure as of yet. i appreciate the video though. i may purchase the kit you linked. it looks much better than mine.
@matthewwilliams9028
@matthewwilliams9028 Жыл бұрын
Replace the soft coil springs give it 1/2 positive camber and reset the toe problem solved .
@wadetharp348
@wadetharp348 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2015 F350 dually. I don't believe I have the beginnings of a death wobble. When I reach 65+ mph on the highway, the front end starts to shake. However, I don't feel any shake in the steering and it is rock steady. Was wondering if you have any experience with that. Basically instead of tie rods and steering damper, could I just have front end suspension issues? P.S. I have all new tires so they should not be the problem (guessing). Any advice is appreciated.
@user-sh3lv6qk2l
@user-sh3lv6qk2l 4 ай бұрын
What causes this problem
@luigicote568
@luigicote568 7 ай бұрын
Is the death wobble problem happening on a 2wd F-250 2018 ? If so, is there a kit to fix it ?
@jasonschaeffer72
@jasonschaeffer72 7 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that the superlift sticker also adds about 100 HP. Some results may vary.😂
@Mi_Haggs
@Mi_Haggs 5 ай бұрын
This kit is for 3+" Lift . How about stock height? I replaces everything wth moog even the track bar and still getting death wobble going into a turn on HW.... Replacement Dampner is Cheap OE style replacement I want to upgrade
@BigRed-55
@BigRed-55 4 ай бұрын
Hi Mike, did you figure it out? My 2012 F-250SD has been giving me death wobble fits, but it too is at stock/factory height. Don’t want to throw a 2” lift kit just to start developing more suspension problems.
@TimothySimer-cl5kp
@TimothySimer-cl5kp Жыл бұрын
I have a 2013 F250 4WD with a 2” level kit. Do I need the super lift kit for 3” or greater lifted trucks or no lift kit?
@AkJohn74
@AkJohn74 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information going to order one today
@farmerjoe338
@farmerjoe338 4 ай бұрын
I have a 1999 F350 it has this, Ford has had this problem for years and just can’t not understand it..
@justinb1606
@justinb1606 6 ай бұрын
What if my truck isn't lifted. Can I still use this dual stabilizer?
@hoppy760
@hoppy760 Жыл бұрын
I just talked to a friend I haven’t seen in a while and he now has a Toyota Tacoma. Sold his stock 2014 F250 with 80 k because he couldn’t get rid of the death wobble. He said Ford replaced the whole front end and still wouldn’t fix it.
@Littledaveyhonez
@Littledaveyhonez 7 ай бұрын
I have a bone stock 2017 f-350. So, I need the stabilizer for a truck with no lift. Is that correct?
@jeremyanderson950
@jeremyanderson950 2 жыл бұрын
Killer install
@danieloberholzer4305
@danieloberholzer4305 2 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks 👍👍
@danielheavin8447
@danielheavin8447 Жыл бұрын
We had the wobble from day one dealer said nothing wrong Ford sent recall letter said they knew it was a problem but to fix it was when it started stop and start over still have letter
@wm6381
@wm6381 6 ай бұрын
Custom classic ford cab sitting on a 1994 F700 chassis with 46" tires. Significant wobble between about 40mph and 60 mph. I am learning about stabilizers. Anyone with some helpful experience got input or suggestions?
@gixxergarry
@gixxergarry Жыл бұрын
Why would you get a wobble with all new front end with no lift?
@darrylboudreaux238
@darrylboudreaux238 Жыл бұрын
Hey I bought one for my f350 and it doesn't have the wire part going from the tie rod end to that longer shaft. Where can I buy that at?
@SuperLuis1944
@SuperLuis1944 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@btreese7
@btreese7 11 ай бұрын
A shop today told me the best fix for death wobble is a ball joint delete, which they say is the biggest culprit. Anyone else agree or have done this and it fixed it 100%?
@WillieCatron
@WillieCatron Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@kingranch8516
@kingranch8516 Жыл бұрын
You can use this on non lifted correct?
@justinhayward5027
@justinhayward5027 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an alignment issue. Toe it out It will go away. I do it on the jeeps all the time. Steering dampener is a bandaid
@evanfruge9823
@evanfruge9823 Жыл бұрын
does this mess with wear on tires noticeably or very minor? Im looking for a fix to this. I don’t think a steering stabilizer is the fix to this because I put a new one on mine, 2012 f350, and in 30k miles the stabilizer is wore out and the DW is back. Also, do you have any idea about the caster adjustments that people are saying to do?
@markm0000
@markm0000 11 ай бұрын
I have a old 2nd gen Ram and it doesn't have death wobble because it's on stock wheels.
@dangarner3249
@dangarner3249 Жыл бұрын
Y😅es real t😅alk drag link is where the the wobble starts . But dual stabilizer s look Kool Kool kool
@pryan89815
@pryan89815 Жыл бұрын
Last week I traded in my 2011 Dodge Cummins super 3500 mega cab and bought myself a 2019 F350 Limited for my 73rd birthday. The Dodge kept having the death wobble so bad it almost threw me off the road many times and it was hazardous to drive especially pulling my horse trailer! After only one week the F350 did the death wobble to me too - I was sick and tried to turn it in but would have lost thousands so I don't know what to do now. Will this fix the problem if I get one and have my local diesel shop install it? I wish I had bought a GMC but too late now :( I live in northeast Nevada - since it is supposedly certified by Ford would the repair be covered by a Ford dealership shop?
@cameronlauseng39
@cameronlauseng39 8 ай бұрын
Don't buy GMC Diesel. I had one, and I didn't even have 80k miles on it when it started giving me all kinds of problems with it losing power while towing less than 6k lbs in hot weather. It was a fuel pressure problem that nobody seemed to know how to fix, and I met several others with the same problem. Then, all the sensors started going nuts whenever it got wet out. ABS, stabilitrac, and two other alerts would pop up. They would go away when it got dry again. Nobody could fix that either. Had it into dealers multiple times searching for a solution. I can get the death wobble fixed on my f250 SD, and not have spend 14k on fuel injectors just to find they didn't fix the problem. GMC diesel is the worst!
@user-re2bq9zm2v
@user-re2bq9zm2v Жыл бұрын
Can that fix my 2010 f250?
@allencarr8222
@allencarr8222 Жыл бұрын
Is this an issue with th3 F450 as well? I've been looking at them, but have yet to drive one. I hear that the 450 has a terrible ride and handling.
@clg763
@clg763 Жыл бұрын
To my knowledge the f450 has a different front end and doesn't have this issue
@jimmycaperton8948
@jimmycaperton8948 9 ай бұрын
I can’t even drive min in Ms on highway 45. My 18’ super duty does it about every time i go over a bridge at 60+ mph.
@jimmycaperton8948
@jimmycaperton8948 9 ай бұрын
Where are you located at i need to get mine fixed.
@codyhenry3926
@codyhenry3926 9 ай бұрын
Please read my comment above
@ironhammer3734
@ironhammer3734 7 ай бұрын
I have been a Ford person all my life since i started driving, 41 years ago. I have a 2014 F250, no lift, 265/70/17 tires. My DW started at just over 80k miles, mechanic checked everything, nothing loose, missing, overly worn, or out of place. He put a new steering damper on and i had him put new front shocks on and rebalance the tires. Seemed to fix it, but just happened again today with 80,400 miles on it. I'm going to try this dual shock damper and do the alignment with the stated changes. If this doesn't SOLVE it, Ford can kiss my A$$!!!
@rooferonhigh7124
@rooferonhigh7124 13 күн бұрын
👍👍 Minnesota
@jeffwimer3969
@jeffwimer3969 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 with under 30K miles that has the death wobble. Almost all of the mileage is Highway miles
@Mikey-wf9py
@Mikey-wf9py 7 ай бұрын
I'm in a f550 dump truck right now in 2019 and almost just went off the damn road ran it. I'm out plowing and have a big ass plow on it and sander full of sand with stock tires. It's a dually dump truck. I shouldn't have almost crashed
@danajedrey6918
@danajedrey6918 Жыл бұрын
What is the part number for this super lift kit?
@stuartbrazile
@stuartbrazile 9 ай бұрын
92730
@user-kd9kq8vl7q
@user-kd9kq8vl7q Жыл бұрын
Do chevys have death wobble issues
@truckinmike7526
@truckinmike7526 7 күн бұрын
No. Chevy has IFS. Independent Front Suspension
@steve1311
@steve1311 Жыл бұрын
I have had it happen 4times.
@sergiozuniga4101
@sergiozuniga4101 Жыл бұрын
2015 F250 6.7. I have done everything to the front-end and three diferente alignments to fix the death wobble and now I have loose steering! When I’m going down the highway at about 75-80 it starts to shake a little and I have to keep correcting my steering 😡. Any advice?
@joshuawalters7835
@joshuawalters7835 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like your gear box look into the redhead gear boxes
@sergiozuniga4101
@sergiozuniga4101 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuawalters7835 i do want to change it but I’ve also heard that they can be adjusted.
@justtl5885
@justtl5885 Жыл бұрын
Yes,sell it.
@joshuawalters7835
@joshuawalters7835 Жыл бұрын
You can but becareful not to over tighten it. I wouldn't do more than a quarter turn
@codyhenry3926
@codyhenry3926 9 ай бұрын
Please read my comment above
@ramntm
@ramntm 7 ай бұрын
Check the Track Bar ball joint instead of using this Dual stabilizer setup. Thie setup just causes more problems and is a band aid, not a fix.
@coryament
@coryament Жыл бұрын
you should call this installing dual steering stabilizers because this did nothing to fix death wobble. maybe slowed it down some
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