⭐ How to Fix Stiff French Horn Valves...Like a Pro!

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The Brass Teacher

The Brass Teacher

Күн бұрын

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@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 6 жыл бұрын
Hello! :) Thanks for watching this video, I hope you found it really useful! Comment below with any questions or video requests you have! Happy playing! :)
@TRUMPETSIZZLE
@TRUMPETSIZZLE 6 жыл бұрын
HI Becky...very good!
@robertojr9053
@robertojr9053 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t have plyers :(
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 6 жыл бұрын
Mikige Tea Oh no! Maybe you can buy some on Amazon? amzn.to/2xyNqym
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 6 жыл бұрын
TRUMPETSIZZLE I'm so glad you enjoyed it trumpetsizzle! Stay tuned! :)
@razana.1119
@razana.1119 6 жыл бұрын
Please help me I got my mouth peace stuck in my French horn and I don’t know how to get it out I got it stuck because I left the mouth peace on for a hole week and never took it out please help me
@hondoalejandro2319
@hondoalejandro2319 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't played my horn in years, since my early college years, due to stuck valves. This video helped me play tonight! I sure missing playing my horn. Thanks for the video!
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! So glad to hear that! Have fun playing
@gladicrabsyt9562
@gladicrabsyt9562 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! My valves aren't stuck now, im a 4th grader from elementary school, and this helped me alot! Thanks.
@Jake-bt7ig
@Jake-bt7ig 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I loved playing for a long time but now my horn sits for long periods without being played. This saved my valves and now I can play a bit again.
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad I could help you!
@tjsogmc
@tjsogmc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. It was very helpful for unsticking my trombone rotor valves. They were very stuck and it took some time to free them up, but slow and sure they freed up. I had to use penetrating oil and a touch of heat, but now it can be played again for the first time in 80 years.
@nevillefilar5245
@nevillefilar5245 5 жыл бұрын
I had an intermittently sticking first valve key. My horn is a Hoyer and you can oil the rotors using a small indentation in them. I do this fairly regularly. Valve stuck from time to time. I oiled everywhere and the problem wasn't solved. I was about to spend money on it when I found this video here . Oil down the slides worked!! Thank you so much
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@JeepinCJ
@JeepinCJ Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! As a handy guy, but not much of instrument repairman, this was perfect. Took me about 150 flips with pliars before it became easy and light back and forth. I had been using only valve oil, going to rotary bearing oil was a game changer.
@anthonydubeau
@anthonydubeau 3 жыл бұрын
The pliers with electric tape work fantastic for my horn! Stiff valve fixed! thanks a lot
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 3 жыл бұрын
Great! So glad it helped you :)
@laurencefinston7036
@laurencefinston7036 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. I have two French horns (Bb and F) and hadn't played them for awhile. The other day, I found all 6 valves were stuck. Rotary valves are still fairly new to me and I don't really understand how they function. By following your instructions I was able to free them again with no scratches, dents or loss of temper. It wasn't, however, possible to oil them from under the valve cap. I don't know where I would get the necessary equipment and there didn't appear to be anywhere enough clearance to get a drop of oil in. However, putting oil in through the tubing worked fine.
@mrktnhkn
@mrktnhkn 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this really helped me with my band grade for second semester!! I was sick and on vacation and this gave me time to practice and also gave me some extra credit in class as well!!
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad it helped you :)
@LdyPrtrdg
@LdyPrtrdg 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I finally bought my own horn, used, but one valve very stuck! But for $100 is was a steal! I will try right away
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@LdyPrtrdg
@LdyPrtrdg 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrassTeacher After letting my horn soak, and then gently moving the back of the fingers, I was able to get them unstuck! Your advice worked. Thank you so much
@chessasil
@chessasil 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! It helped us!!😀
@lorajones8887
@lorajones8887 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve not played my horn in about 20 years so I’m going to try this tomorrow!! Fingers crossed it works! 🤞 thank you for the video. Where did you get the syringe and needle from please? I’ve only got valve oil with a thick nozzle.
@noramiliabubakar8679
@noramiliabubakar8679 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u I thought I’d have to bring it to the brass shop (which is very far away):D
@hannahscala6096
@hannahscala6096 3 жыл бұрын
you are a literal life saver
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I could help! :)
@susanhamann8771
@susanhamann8771 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I had found this video earlier - its off to the pros to fix my valve string now :)
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 4 жыл бұрын
Good! Glad I could help, I hope it all worked out!
@whiteout8479
@whiteout8479 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I knew this trick going through school, thanks!
@estudiomonteverdi
@estudiomonteverdi 4 жыл бұрын
thanks
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@halle803
@halle803 3 жыл бұрын
you're a lifesaver!! i have my first day of college band tomorrow and all my valves were stuck from not playing all summer. i did have a question about horn baths: is there a certain way i should let my horn dry?? i've never given it a bath before in fear of it rusting or getting otherwise damaged. thank you!!!
@shirleydiaz7802
@shirleydiaz7802 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. My instrument just came outta the shop and when I played it the middle key stuck down. Your tutorial helped me get it unstuck and its fine now thanks mam for this tutorial I'm saving itm
@shirleydiaz7802
@shirleydiaz7802 5 жыл бұрын
Also I almost cried bc I couldn't fix it so thanks
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 5 жыл бұрын
Aw Shirley, I'm so glad I could help you! :) Happy playing!
@shirleydiaz7802
@shirleydiaz7802 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah fanks. I'm having fun in 8th grade but I'll miss my band teacher dearly, also the middle valve was loose. They gave me back a horn with a middle valve that loosens, I know how to deal with it but it's like GEEZ
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 5 жыл бұрын
@@shirleydiaz7802 yes having a broken instrument is stressful I know!
@matthewkim705
@matthewkim705 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you you're a lifesaver
@thebiasslayer8244
@thebiasslayer8244 6 жыл бұрын
Becky this is very instructive thank you very much.
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Tristan!! I'm glad you found the video helpful:)
@mackymackster5284
@mackymackster5284 2 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful! I do still have a problem with my trigger valve
@mackymackster5284
@mackymackster5284 2 жыл бұрын
It won't move enough to rotate the valve
@Marina-wn3xr
@Marina-wn3xr 3 жыл бұрын
You saved my life 😭
@cortezr.alberto4518
@cortezr.alberto4518 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this video
@thebiasslayer8244
@thebiasslayer8244 6 жыл бұрын
Becky this is very instructive thank you!
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Tristan thanks so much for watching! I'm so stoked that you found it useful/! Keep watching and don't forget to hit subscribe if you haven't already! :)
@capncook6824
@capncook6824 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, really helped
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@guankstudios
@guankstudios 5 жыл бұрын
my trigger isnt moving and its summer break. i manually move it with my hand instead of plyers because im very scared im gonna break it because im 13 and its a school instrument
@emilyclemens1810
@emilyclemens1810 5 жыл бұрын
wow that’s my exact problem to like same age and everything lol
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, so the main thing is NOT to force it. Use any oil you've got to gently move the trigger. If in doubt, wait until you go back after summer break. I'm sure your teacher won't mind :) Rather wait than break it :)
@squirrelcubes3902
@squirrelcubes3902 5 жыл бұрын
thanks so much it fixed my horn
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 5 жыл бұрын
Yay! I'm so glad you fixed it!
@227johnb718
@227johnb718 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video!! very helpful. can you comment on horns whose slides get stuck? what kind of greaser should I use. in general, can you tell me all the maintenence equipment i need for at-home "repairs" thanks and i appreciate your video very much!!
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, I'm so glad you found it useful! For slides I have used bits of vaseline and some types of slide grease in the past. It depends on the brand really - I would ask for the lightest and thinnest slide grease as once they are unstuck, you shouldn't need too much product on them. Most repairs at home can be done with pliers, vaseline and valve oil. Anything more complicated - take it to a specialist! Good luck!
@oldhammi22
@oldhammi22 Ай бұрын
Thanks so much!!!
@rohitshete1785
@rohitshete1785 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, what should I do if oiling made my keys even slower/sluggish?
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest cleaning them (full bath is good for whole of horn anyway) then start again. If you use the right oil it shouldn't make them sluggish
@DrDonnaLLB
@DrDonnaLLB 3 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful!
@rohitshete1785
@rohitshete1785 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, what should I do if my keys are being slow even after oiling?
@ajaniharris
@ajaniharris Жыл бұрын
I was wondering this too! Mine aren’t stuck, but are slow moving
@ssoqhiia
@ssoqhiia 4 жыл бұрын
My mouth piece is stuck in my French horn and it’s and instrument from my school, what should I do to get it out?
@oceanpermana1225
@oceanpermana1225 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t played my French horn over the summer (I forgot where I put it) and now the valves are completely stuck in the down position but the valve that moves them hasn’t moved so if I pull up it’s going to tear straight through them so what should i do any help I’d appreciated?
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 3 жыл бұрын
Firstly give it a bath, it will loosen it up a bit. Then go through the pliers steps gently gently. If not, it may be that your valves have been misaligned or dented somehow - take it to an expert if this is the case.
@iceblade1333
@iceblade1333 4 жыл бұрын
Is it the same for the double horn?? Especially the 4th valve
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Yes its the same for double horn. Be very careful with forcing the thumb valve though - proceed with caution always!
@undertone_dj
@undertone_dj 3 жыл бұрын
you show two oils, but only have a link to the valve oil. Can we get a link to the bearing oil?
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 3 жыл бұрын
You can get it online at the paxman store :) www.paxman.org.uk/paxman-oils-and-greases-c2x19508518
@dmr3982
@dmr3982 5 жыл бұрын
My trigger is really stuck and I tried to do the methods you said and it doesn't seem to wanna budge. Is there anything I can do
@aaaaa-cr8es
@aaaaa-cr8es 5 жыл бұрын
What if the cap for the valve stuck too?
@colbycomfort5398
@colbycomfort5398 2 жыл бұрын
I almost had a heart attack bc I had band the next day but this was so good
@senarisugunendran1691
@senarisugunendran1691 4 жыл бұрын
what do you do if you don't have any of the equipment you named?
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 4 жыл бұрын
Good question! In terms of oil I would always ONLY use valve oil. Its not worth ruining your horn trying to use another type of oil. You can buy valve oil at lots of places online :) If you don't have pliers you can also try and use a rubber can opener too which won't scratch your horn. Good luck!
@Swel_Remarkable
@Swel_Remarkable 2 ай бұрын
Watering (oil) down the gunk does not make it go away. One should really take it apart all the way to properly clean it.
@louissomers868
@louissomers868 11 ай бұрын
Instead of dripping the oil straight down to the slide pipes rather put some in the slide, push then in 100% keeping the oil in the slide and only when they are fully in, turn it around to let the oil flow to the rotor. That way the oil will not take any slide grease with it down to the rotor valve (which would gunk up the rotor even worse).
@johnpereira5926
@johnpereira5926 9 ай бұрын
Is it more expensive to fit a horn with piston valves than rotary valves? Why are the inexpensive models not made with piston valves? It is so much more practical for a tyro to deal with minor problems that arise in connection with piston valves - as is evidenced by the strong preference shown by amateurs and small-time professionals in most countries - even Germany - for piston valves in trumpets, cornets and members of the saxhorn family.
@danielahernandez3884
@danielahernandez3884 2 жыл бұрын
What if they arent stuck they just move really really slow no matter how much oil you put in it?
@pauljmeyer1
@pauljmeyer1 6 ай бұрын
Remove the crooks and unscrew the bell if removable. Place the horn in a bath or basin on a clean towel and thoroughly instil washing solution through its tubes while working all its valves to wash away solidified oil. The instrument can then be dried and re-oiled. If this procedure fails, you'll need to take it to an instrument repairer as the valves are high precision and might be damaged otherwise.
@blechfan135
@blechfan135 3 жыл бұрын
The very first thing i do is to take off all finger rings!! You can't avoid to touch the brass and you will scratch it!!
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 3 жыл бұрын
interesting! I never used to do that, but yes you do have to be careful. Though, getting minor small scratches on your instrument is kinda a fact of life and very very difficult to avoid over years of playing.
@danielmarquez9266
@danielmarquez9266 4 жыл бұрын
What if my valves are clicking very loudly?
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! What Danielle said!
@drawinggodz3514
@drawinggodz3514 5 жыл бұрын
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@therobloxfamilyxo2420
@therobloxfamilyxo2420 5 жыл бұрын
I did this a bunch of times and it’s still stuck
@TheBrassTeacher
@TheBrassTeacher 5 жыл бұрын
Ah okay, maybe try with a little bit of force, make sure to use lots of valve oil. If its still stuck then it might need some professional help :)
@kaabespinoza7967
@kaabespinoza7967 Жыл бұрын
Your intro is very cringe but thanks for the help!
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