How to FIX the LAMEST Stages in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

[@TIN_Tevlev]

what is another stage that needs fixing? Big or small.

[@DidgeridudeEX]

New Pork City for sure. Also Brinstar Depths/Norfair, Venom, Gerudo Valley, Wily Castle

[@nematodes23]

new donk city, honestly it feels like it shouldve been a traveling stage to different locals from odyssey or just exploring more of NDC instead of just the city hall

[@nathanskretkowicz4705]

​@@nematodes23Well, there are two different Green Hill Zones so they could keep the stage the same and have a second New Donk City but instead of being during daytime it could be a travel stage during the night.

[@LynxTheUnrelated]

Umbra clock tower, for as interesting as the stage is visually it's pretty boring to fight on. As a fan of the series I think it could do with a bit more than just random patterns of floating platforms. I'm surprised the switching between Purgatorio and real world doesn't do affect the stage in any meaningful way.

[@whoisthisguy362]

the great cave offensive. that's it

[@cola5375]

For boxing ring it would be very funny to have a referee in the background. Once a player is off stage he counts up to 10. If you dont get back on stage by 10 you instantly lose a stock by tko. This makes boxing ring a tense stage that is very small.

[@TIN_Tevlev]

😂

[@Luis-yh9xd]

It would be cool if no one played as Mario when choosing Boxing Ring, he appears as the referee which references NES Punch-Out. This is similar to how Toon Link will appear as the conductor in Spirit Train if no one chooses him.

[@KapitanKaos]

Even though conceptually it's a good idea. It would be worse than a walk-off because you don't need to stay on the ring, you just need to keep your opponent out of it for longer than you. It may really encourage camping, specially on last stock when you don't even have to go back to the stage after your opponent is dead

[@De_an]

@@Luis-yh9xd Alfonzo: "Leave it to me!"

[@sharkattacksnack3050]

If no one wasw playing as donkey kong he can be in the background like the PUNCH-OUT!! for the wii

[@carbonrick-roller7428]

I love the gloom idea and it’s kind of crazy smash hasn’t tried anything like it. Shepherding the players into new corners of the stage to make the fight more interesting is a great way to keep big stages big and avoid camping. I hate when I get people in elite smash playing stages like that because I know nobody is having fun when you play those stages to win but I’m in elite smash to win

[@luckycapgaming5957]

*Ultimate Chimera would like to know your location*

[@siennanicholas1089]

we do have norfair. it’s not large, but lava can take over half or even all the stage.

[@Bosssnurp]

One problem. Tears of the kingdom released AFTER super smash bros ultimate. 🤦‍♂️

[@spystar18]

​@@Bosssnurp 2 years AFTER Sora was revealed. Now in Smash 6?

[@MosesX-Labs]

Find Mii removes half of the stage sometimes, but I find the layout to suck with and without both sections and the cage.

[@DidgeridudeEX]

Love what you did with Green Hill. And you're brave for daring to touch Temple- love that Tears of the Kingdom concept though.

[@brandonwilliams6119]

That new Green Hill looks so fun and actually represents Sonic more better with the Badniks, Item TV Boxes, and crumbling floor gimmicks. I really love these rant videos about fixing aspects of Smash, please do more!

[@philsharpe4315]

I LOVE this, its nice to see someone give ways to improve stages without just saying "lets make it a floating island with platforms above it and remove the hazards (its not like battlefeild i swear)"

[@teaoftraffic]

The crowd chucking you back into the ring for Boxing Ring is a genius idea.

[@Cyberguy64]

"Why not have Eggman as a stage boss?" Because I'd go berserk if Sakurai gave another one of my most wanted characters the Smash 4 Ridley treatment.

[@fissilewhistle]

Also because stage bosses suck and can ruin otherwise good stages.

[@SpeciToS]

hallow bastion is a great stage, but I am left wanting a cool unique layout based on the actual locales of the stage, rather than a smashville that flies around the cool parts. it could have been a neat traveling stage that drops you onto the various outdoor platforming segments, or it could pick up different platform layouts and features from the bastion depending on the section that the smashvillesque platform is currently nearby. just a creative exercise

[@Toadfish10]

I NEED a segment going up through the centre area

[@Matanumi]

..... no fuck that hallow bastion is perfect as it is

[@Toadfish10]

@@Matanumi Hollow Bastion is essentially a flat stage with a single platform. you could change its theme to anything and it would be the same.

[@vaporcranberries]

3:50 oh my goodness the pac-land for a frame

[@ThatPhatGoose]

straight up I LOVE temple, its just that fun stage with 4 friends that ends up becoming an all out war of targeting, betrayal, and suffering

[@beavertrax4959]

Personally, I feel like Venom is a weird stage to have. Its weird stacked semi-solid platforms and giant wall in the middle make for an uncomfortable fight. Personally, I’d rotate the ship, so it’s facing sideways towards the blast zones and not directly at the camera. This would allow for more exploration of the top of the plane which not only gives more space, but creates a more compelling layout. Maybe you could stand on the blasters on the front and they could fire off sometimes to create a funny moment for anyone unlucky enough to be off the stage at the time. I really like this idea and I hope they make these changes in the next Smash game. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

[@TIN_Tevlev]

😂

[@bobloblaw4361]

I think it's hilarious that Mother has more stages in Smash than there are games in the series

[@DaveNationCP]

I would've made Green Hill have a gravity gimmick where you could walk on the ceiling of the loop.

[@HruMan360]

(06 reference)

[@KapitanKaos]

That would be great

[@robertambroise5619]

Bro I really love your design of green hill zone makes me wish it was an actual stage in smash and it also feels like a stage we would get in melee.

[@MrStanFungi]

bro that temple idea is actually goated

[@mrmuffins951]

I think an amazing addition to the game would be a “competitive form” in addition to omega and battlefield forms. It would essentially remove the jank from the stages with cool layouts that could be competitive stages. Like it would flatten out Lylat Cruise and remove the tilting, fix the blast zones on WarioWare Inc., remove solid ceilings on Luigi’s Mansion, flatten out Pirate Ship and make it float in the air instead of water, give Norfair one big platform on the bottom, and remove the middle walls on Pilotwings. That and it’d be nice to be able to choose a specific transformation for a hazards off game like spirit battles does. It would be nice to be able to just play on the sunset transformation of Pictochat 2, the valley in 3D Land, the first transformation for Delfino Plaza, the first transformation on Town & City so it doesn’t have any moving platforms, the symmetrical transformation on Arena Ferox, and even the first transformation from the final stage of the World of Light. And I hope for new basic stages they at least get more creative with platforms. I don’t like how similar Midgar, Hallow Bastion, Yggdrasil’s Altar, and Northern Cave are to existing stages. I’d love to hear your thoughts!

[@TIN_Tevlev]

Dude I've been saying this! We chat about this in the discord a lot... And spoilers vs ready to hear about this in the next video 🔥

[@mrmuffins951]

@@TIN_Tevlev Heck yeah! I’ve got notifications on so I won’t miss it. Thanks for the reply!

[@nobodybroda3826]

For sonic's stage I say leave out the item boxes and the spikes. The fish and the springs are more then enough, otherwise it's too much clutter.

[@bigdaddybman779]

Pretty cool ideas, I wish both Smash devs and players paid more attention to stages. Infinite potential to pull from, y'know what I mean? I know there's Stage Builder too, it'd just be nice if they were treated a bit more seriously I suppose

[@constantspider]

I love your idea for green hill! I think the springs and spikes coming out is very interesting. Boxing ring having CROWD ASSISTED KO's is epic. you almost had me with the temple changes as first, but the gloom seems great, if done slowly. it's like an every changing sudden death!

[@The_Squatch_97]

I like the boxing ring crowd is a good idea, but maybe also making the ring itself... bigger

[@LynxTheUnrelated]

I've seen plenty of people suggest adding more aspects of the stage to be removed by the hazard toggle, but I don't think I've ever seen a suggestion to add a hazard to a pre-existing stage for the toggle to add! Well done! I also adore the first boxing ring idea! I've always loved the stage for how the middle platform is designed in concept, but barely any of it gets used due to the side platforms! And in case the crowd proved to be and issue a hazard toggle could easily remove them and return the stage to a walk off(with less space than normal, but that's probably for the better) Great job overall! I love these concepts!

[@HuneeBruh]

I personally like Boxing Ring, but your ideas would probably bring it to be one of my favorites. An idea I had was to add the king of fighters walls to the sides of the ring right past the ropes, but going past them doesn't KO you, and the person who sent you out can follow you and keep fighting you, kinda like how it is in other fighting games

[@jmurray1110]

Green hill redesign would be fun casually but it’s missing the cameos Maybe have the death egg on the background with either super sonic or hyper knuckles flying to it and having it explode (I know sonic 2 and sonic 3 and knocked not sonic 1 but why not) Maybe have tails riding the Mach tornado to it after to act as the get away driver

[@Shonin23]

The background could just stay the same but with an updated colour palette

[@MrMariosonicman]

For temple. I think gloom hands should only get involved if the character stays in it for like 10 seconds without reaching safe ground, where if you are at a high enough percentage it instantly kills you when it grabs you, but if at a low percent it just throws. Gotta say of all stages tackled I loved the idea for green hill zone the most.

[@Skypatroller_BenCD]

03:38 that man doesn't know the difference between a bee and a dragonfly 💀

[@TIN_Tevlev]

😂

[@jorge8108]

Crowd asisted K.O.? Def Jam I will never forget you

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

Green Hill has actually been one of my most hated stages ever since it debuted in Brawl lol, I actually was kinda glad Windy Hill Zone happened just to have the GHZ aesthetic in a decent layout and yes, it being just genesis textures is lame as hell, wish Brawl had made a more badass realized version of this level (or used Seaside Hill esque textures instead )

[@idkwhothisis-uv8tq]

Miiverse, give it transformations that make it mimic other stages, such as Green Greens, the central building of Saffron City without the Pokémon that can spawn, and the central area of Boxing Ring (what we have right now but without the sides, so you have to take a risk to reach the upper platform, which is a ceiling in my version of Miiverse). Also I love the crowd surfing that you thought of for Boxing Ring.

[@hyperfairy7779]

Green hill zone: I'd maybe add the buzz bombers at least so the enemy hazards are more spread out, and maybe an eggman stage boss could work too, but it might be overwhelming, maybe all the other hazards vanish when eggman is coming?

[@Sly88Frye]

This was a nice way to introduce me to your channel. The show up in my recommendations and I just had to watch and this was really awesome. Yea Green Hill zone can have annoyances depending on who you go against but I've always liked that stage. It is flawed though. Cool that you found some ideas to make Temple more interesting even though the consensus is that it's actually a well-liked stage despite its massive size

[@pavret4663]

Love this series!

[@ΧρυσηΠολιτου-ψ4ε]

I kinda like walk offs since my sister can't recover and with walk off stages we can play together!

[@GhostMoss]

For the boxing ring, do BOTH! The audience throws things at you if your above them, and throws you back in if your on the ground

[@minerpig04]

I think the thing i hate the most about green hill in ultimate is how they updated the stage sprites and background to look more faithful to the games (i think its literally mania's sprite sheet) but the loop, background, platforms and tails knuckles and silver are all still using the brawl textures. They half assed it and it looks so awful because of it, especially on the Ω version

[@BeanoNintendo]

I kinda like the bowl in Green Hill Zone. It's fun to use Jigglypuff's Rollout on that. If only it was a better move...

[@stocktonlevel1goblin]

A pretty ballsy idea: add a gloom sword to the game. It functions the same as in totk, does good damage, but hurts you to, and have the gloom hands spawn and attack if an area has enough gloom on it. If each hand is defeated you get a gloom sword

[@Draedon126]

If gloom spawns will be in smash bros I’m not even going to turn on my Nintendo

[@superflameking03]

I think it would be cool if Boxing Ring gave everyone a special entrance animation where the various players will run in from those walk offs, but then when the match actually starts those walk offs fall away.

[@mariathompson5104]

The dip of the bowl on green hill zone is meant to highlight the shuttle loop in the background, the most iconic part about sonic levels in general

[@SleepyLuigi]

I’m fine with green hill zone. they should remove the falling hill and add the piranhas by the bridge, and maybe let you run though the background.

[@TIN_Tevlev]

Run through the background... how'd that work 🧐

[@royepicness3509]

On the boxing ring stage, they should have similar barriers to Terry’s stage, where only a powerful attack could take them off stage instead of having a walk-off

[@takodacorliss5838]

So Boxing Ring. My idea is simple. Just make it a cage match. People like those types of custom stages, so a Dunn stage where you can only be KO’d off the top is a good idea.

[@pyskotaze]

for green hill,i think you did a great job,the spikes,the item boxes,the choppers,it's all great,though the buzz bombers (which are the bee badnicks that you called "dragonflies") would be a great addition to mess with the players

[@rawman44]

That crowd idea is great. I think it's much better than the damaging floor

[@OrbitalFrog_]

I actually really like the idea of the crowd violently throwing you back into the ring. Maybe have the referee in the ring as well, just to add a bit of flair.

[@XBC3403]

Some really cool ideas here, It's nice to see some videos trying to talk about and indulge in stage design instead of just simply fighter ideas. ive been thinking that someone or more should start doing some stage concept series to compliment. and its interesting to see the design process from those trying to come up with stages or alter stages in the game. even if I don't always agree. Like i don't think I agree with treating walkoffs as simply a kind of hazard. yes they can be cheesed, but like any element to stage layouts, there are generally risks and rewards to be had from trying to use them. and they can do much in distinguishing a stage from the rest, weather its in its layout, the way matches flow, or to the aesthetic of the stage overall. I wouldn't be so quick to try to mitigate or remove a walkoff simply because it can be cheesed by sweats. Your green hill idea looks interesting, but I also think It looks a bit aimless. It looks more like an attempt to just cram as much sonic stuff in a stage as possible than trying to give a more unique identity as a stage itself. the layout being a bit too random like if the mario maker stage was using Sonic assets instead. Regardless if one liked it or disliked it, the bowl shape and falling center gives Green Hill Zone an integral unique design aspect that distinguishes it from other stages. In addition, we also have Windy hill zone as a stage that already features a lot of different elements slopes, and various elevations while being on the bigger end. So if i were to fix Green Hill, i would go about a different way. One direction to fix it could be to do what many fan mods have done and make the main stage a flat segment like on top of the iconic shuttle loop, and having a swinging platform or two to provide some unique layout and distinguishing feature. Though I'd want to go even further. Instead of just having the single chunk of stage for the main stage, I would go the route so the stage is a walk off on both sides, however i would reutilize the gimmick the current GHZ already does only for the sides. so when enough damage is done to a side, it falls away and its no longer a walk off there for a time. And instead of the swinging platfom in the middle, i would have there be two well sized floating platforms on each side of the stage. With the defining element of the stage being that its based off the boss fight of the zone. Every so often, Eggman would come in with his iconic first weapon, slowly flying back and forth across the stage while swinging a big wrecking ball that deals damage and launches on hit. deal enough damage to him directly, and the weapon falls apart and he flies away to come back a short time later. If you wanted to really push the idea, you could expand his moveset with the weapon such as gaining more wrecking balls, or using moves like his desperation attack in Sonic 4, where he slams the wrecking ball down, which could destroy one of the floating platforms temporarily. Another way you could add to it is perhaps he has a selection of boss weapons to come out with, taken from other bosses of Sonic 1 or from the classic games in general. And even if Eggman were a fighter, you could do what the spirit train stage does and simply replace eggman with say an eggpawn if eggman were a chosen character for the match.

[@gsvproductions8171]

Something I really appreciate about your take on a "Fixed" version of Green Hill Zone is that you didn't just flatten it out and call it a day. I have nothin' against the Competitive side of Smash Bros, don't get me wrong it's partly what keeps the game alive, but I feel like when people try to fix Smash's existing stages or create conceptual new stages they just wind up making them really flat and boring to appeal more to the hardcore competitive side of the playerbase, forgetting that one of the biggest things that sets Smash apart from traditional fighting games is the fact that it's a PLATFORM fighter, a.k.a. a Fighting game with Light Platformer elements. Having Hills, Pits, Platform of varying length and altitude, and dare I say it: Stage Gimmicks make fights dynamic, tense and exciting. Stages are one of the things that gives Smash it's unique Identity that makes it stand out in the sea of 2D fighting games and I think it's kind of sad that in trying to "Fix" the stages we have people often rob Smash of it's identity by turning everything into a bunch of Pokemon Stadium/Wario Ware Inc Clones. Going into this video, and your previous video, I was worried that you were going to do the same thing but I was pleasantly surprised to see you do the opposite! Taking stages with loads of untapped, or misplaced, potential and actually finding ways of refining and reworking them in ways that actually make them more interesting and engaging to play on. Great Video!

[@DylanYoshi]

Leaving my own idea for Boxing Ring: When you're outside the ring, a countdown starts. You have 10 seconds outside of the ring before the referee disqualifies you, resulting in an instant KO.

[@TexTheGuy]

. Maybe just do damage and go into the stage

[@AveryTurner-ot9hx]

I think boxing could have three random hazards with the walk-offs- A Cement filled boxing glove on the rope that trips the player Roller Skates that make you speed back to the center Thorn roses that damage you. they would happen randomly and it's an interesting reference to actual characters from the game

[@364wii]

Ok, here's two idea I had fir boxing ring since terry was added. One. The ropes in the ring bounce on the side too like incinroar side B. Two put the KOF walls on this stage so it's not a annoying walk off. Plus your ideas for the stage were fantastic!

[@MrSkerpentine]

Honestly that boxing ring concept now just makes me want to see a platform fighter have an ECW level where the fans throw items like chairs and shit into the ring

[@ehhorve857]

y'know, That gloom floor is actually IN a smash game. not one made by nintendo, but by modders. smash remix is a heavily, HEAVILY changed version of smash 64, with new characters, levels, a extra campaign, extremely customizable options, and dragon king! love that guy! the level in question is Spawned Fear from doom 2. it looks like this: L________I __ __ ____||||||______ | | 2 panels, a big ceiling, a big floor, and a center pillar. the big floor is MADE of gloom, and the only safe spotsare the panels and pillar. when they are ON the screen. over time, each floor sinks into the gloom, and forces everyone to scramble to whatever floor raised back to safety. even THEN, a invading pit fiend keeps appearing to harass and attack everyone in the fight! he a wimp though, as a sniff will make 'im explode. smash remix has a TON of good levels. maybe check 'em out.

[@EyeofKoruption]

Crowed surfing would totally make for a good splatoon stage. Like Squid Sisters of Off the Hook rocking in the background while your fighting on stage.

[@primrosevale1995]

My suggestions: * Green Hill should be longer, by that I mean there should be a length roughly equal to that of the lower right section added between the bridge and the walls, at least. It is Sonic's stage it should be long enough to demonstrate his speedy nature. Other than that, while I agree with the item boxes and springs, I think it would be funny it spikes only popped up occasionally in the gap near the lower of the right, temporarily removing the blast zone. Would act as a fun little reference to several well known spike pits in classic _Sonic._ Though to be fair it would only be there for like 10 seconds at a time. This isn't Mystic Cave Zone. * IMO it doesn't make sense for your percentage to rise just for being outside the ring, and while the crowd throw is fun, it also doesn't really make sense. Plus, Incineroar's trailer showed us why those paths are there: fighters need a way to get to the ring (and _Punch-Out!!_ itself is decently grounded for a Nintendo series). However, since you can't leave the ring in boxing and based on another commenter, have it so when a player lands on those paths, the Wii version's referee starts counting down from 10, with the number shown above your character (if multiple he follows the first but the others still count down). If it reaches zero, the character is launched into the air, but you can make it reset by spending more time in the ring. If the countdown reaches zero three times, your player is launched Jigglypuff shield break-style as the referee shouts TKO!, instantly KOing them. Also personal thing but the Omega/Battlefield version should retain the ropes, just with a gap for the player to move through. * There's a way to be more faithful to Temple's original game while retaining the basic idea of the Gloom. Simple, just have it so a part of the stage becomes infested with enemies from _Zelda II: The Adventure of Link,_ like Dairas, Iron Knuckles, Octoroks, etc. You want to go to the extreme add a Shadowy version of a randomly selected player every once in a while that acts like Ditto (Dark Link didn't exist in that game). That way they either disappear or you have to team up with other players to get rid of the enemies faster.

[@Gazing-09]

Honestly, I thought the GreenHill zone could fit well as a scrolling level like the Classic Mario Bros Stage where the fighting stage is scrolling to the right like a regular Mario Lvl. And you could totally put the hazard like the Badnicks and spikes and crumbling stages as well, I think it'd be fun too

[@maxthompson7107]

If I had to pick just one stage to fix, I’d pick the Great Cave Offensive. Like PAC-LAND, the Great Cave Offensive is very big and overwhelming. There’s too much going on and half the time, you don’t know where everyone is. The way I’d fix it is by making each section of the Great Cave Offensive be its own thing. Then we glue them together Castle Siege style. To remove campy gameplay and cheesy kills, there will be no walkoff areas. Furthermore, if you have the hazards on, some of the bosses that originally appeared in the Great Cave Offensive have a small chance of appearing. The more recognizable the boss, the higher the chance of them appearing.

[@liamconnolly8758]

The distant planet pikmin stage from brawl is in desperate need of a revamp. It has a lot of cool hazards but its all so scrunched together that they end up becoming annoying (ESPECIALLY the onions blocking nearly all the projectiles.) I think what would fix it the best is if they just made the stage larger which would give every unique hazard room to breathe and made it so the rain would fully push people off the slope instead of into the ledge grab position.

[@chackbro1]

for boxing ring I was gonna have a 10 second count down until a "DQ" appears and you get KOed, but I like the crowd idea more

[@tka7886]

Man sees new tevlev upload. Man happy

[@nintenjoe6418]

Im loving this series! Hoping to see more soon! Perhaps Luigi’s Mansion for the next video?

[@maxthompson7107]

I like your idea for the reconstructed Green Hill Zone. My method of improving off it? Split it into 3 different acts. Each act has its own unique gimmicks and enemies. For instance, act 3 is the only act where Robotnik/Eggman has a chance of showing up.

[@squallleonhart9387]

It’s amazing how Smash hasn’t had a Desert themed stage at all, and before you say Mushroomy Kingdom, that stage actually looks more like a wasteland than an actual desert, basically if Mario was on the PS3 since the color and vibe of that stage makes it look like it came from the PS3. Same with Gerudo Valley, that also looks like a wasteland. Give me freaking Sand Ocean from F-Zero or a complete reimagining of Sarasaland’s first level since we have Daisy. Lol they would probably add a generic NSMB desert level and call it a day.

[@KapitanKaos]

What about Gerudo Valley?

[@rhinastocroc-boulet5189]

Bone-Dry Dunes would be cool.

[@shoppncart]

Spiral Mountain is actually a mediocre stage because Gruntilda doesn't talk to me when I play it 😢

[@death_ship1332]

REEH RAH REE! REH REE RAH RAH REE!

[@thevioletbee5879]

Regarding Green Hill, make sure there’s prominent warnings for all the obstacles for at least a few seconds. You don’t want it to feel cheap.

[@Gianluca_GMS]

Someone absolutely needs to make mods of this! I would always have them in my game.

[@OrchidTheRam]

In my opinion Morray Towers is really annoying since the whole stage is semisolid it incentives running away instead of fighting which it’s even more unfair when specifically one spot has a head hitter and your opponent is playing Yoshi so they can snipe you with the ground pound

[@douglewisamaanthro383]

for stage 3 baloon fight, i think it would be a fun idea to have it a semi travling stage, ware the stage fighters and ext don't move but a storm of sparks like from the balloon trip mode comes in

[@angzarrpsyco]

Imagine The Gloom/Malice being an assist trophy that coats parts of the stage in Gloom/Malice. If you stand in it too long, the Hands pop out and hit you

[@EricNightStorm]

Imo the gloom idea for temple is cool but really they just have to elevate the upper left platform so you don't bounce off like crazy when you're in the bottom

[@ECartmanist]

Not a stage fix but a new idea, an Angel Island stage from Sonic 3 that tours across different zones from Sonic 3

[@squallleonhart9387]

Project+, Remix 64 and others have Casino Night, Metallic Madness, Sky Sanctuary, Emerald Coast, Radical Highway, Seaside Hill and many more

[@nvrmltice]

I reeeeeeeaally like your intro. Only six seconds long, not explaining what is a stage, what is smash or whatever. Thank you

[@beatziegraham6928]

While not fixing, I wish that the giant bulborb on distant planet was the Emperor Bulblax from Pikmin 1. It’s the final boss and is the biggest enemy in the game. Seeing it eat a character instead of a simple bulborb seems so more dangerous!

[@DanielWeidner-li2yf]

To be honest, I do think more badniks should appear on Green Hill. Have Eggman drop fire on the stages and motobugs on the stage occasionally and have Buzz Bombers fly across the stage.

[@cellianexurianity5021]

That thumbnail, ain't no way mans needed to fix hyrule temple, when it already has "hyrule fight club" in the lower areas, but...i got ragebaited into watching the video anyhow hahah, well played. Well played with your mindgames sir. in fact, i think i commented on that before in that last video... dammit. XD

[@littlebigb5370]

11:05 This may have been a joke, but I actually REALLY like the idea of the walls there. A.) The temples in Zelda 2 were primarily underground, separated into layers via elevators, so having half/most of the stage underground, even implied to be in a mountainside is more accurate to the source material than the actual stage. B.) It still has this iconography of the open upper layer vs. crowded fight club bottom layer Temple is known for that doesn't interfere with the blast zones people aim for when fighting in the respective areas, only interrupting their escape options. And C.) I always found it weird that there was just this whole temple just floating in the sky? Like I know TotK and even Skyward Sword before it had floating islands, but this was way back on the Gamecube and Greek Ruin-looking temples floating on a hunk of gravity defying rubble above the clouds wasn't exactly an iconic Zelda location at the time, much less from Zelda 2, even with creative liberties. If I were to double down on the idea I'd leave the hole you said to lock up open and clog the left-most opening slit where the two thin platforms are to prevent the infinite running circle, but then replace it with an elevator-like structure somewhere in that general area that would periodically move down into the "fight club", pause, and move back up in timed intervals to unclog the hole and temporatily create an opening to pass through. This is to prevent the hole opening from becoming too chockhold-y while still being able to eventually corner campers. I would then push the right wall in the "Temple Jump area" even further right, as far right as possible while keeping a grabbable ledge up top, thin off some of the "fight club" island's right side and move the little "stone island" to the left, push the ceiling of that area into a dome above so that the area looks like a big circle, and add some additional platforms and floors to the now walled-off Temple Jump zone to allow for more fightable area while keeping the vast bottomless pit intact. Something like an identical "stone island" platform on the the other side of the pit with a broken bridge to have aesthetically implied to have connected the two (as reference to the falling bridges seen in some of the dungeons and caves in Zelda 2) and a singular, small, thin platform moving horizontally somewhere above the gap. Going with the idea that it gets more fight-centric the deeper down into the stage you get, (with the top layer being a wide, open area with the primary threats being the side and top blast zones, and the middle layer being famously nicknamed the "fight club" because of its close quarters, ceiling, and death pit to the left) this would turn the bottom hole into something of an arena-like area with plenty of open area above the widest pit on the stage and only one way in or out. This took longer to type than I care to admit.

[@leoleonardowilliam5957]

Maybe in Smash 6? Idk, maybe they'll save the gloom hands for a new Tears Of the Kindgom stage.

[@BachBR]

The algorithm reeeealy pushed your video on me. I'm glad =]

[@Bandit_Dot_xml]

I am crying and shitting Tevlev.

[@maxspecs]

Have Boxing Ring give your character a 10 count over their head once they’re past the ropes. If they don’t make it back in the ring, they just explode and lose a stock.

[@nematodes23]

bold choice to rework temple, but i dig it

[@brainiacfortnite5523]

I think the actual Gloomspawn should be like a stage boss if it was on Temple. Let it grab people, and let it get killed too.

[@heyhi7415]

Bro I swear I just ran into ur richter on elite smash. U are a goat

[@TIN_Tevlev]

if that was today, i was simon 😉

[@Decidukip]

I fought a Snake on Temple who would keep running away.

[@stocktonlevel1goblin]

It would be cool if the ropes would slingshot you toward the the center of the stage if you get launched into them

[@derpyface3602]

I feel like for Green Hill Zone, just the jumping piranhas and items would be enough

[@thenewhorkmanga43]

3D Land has rotating platforms... But doesn't focus on that because of Auto-Scroll Bridge of Eden because I want to see the entrance Rainbow Cruise because I want to stay on the Airship

[@astralten]

You basically invented the Fortnite zone for Hyrule Temple. Which is actually a good fix.

[@marcelopaulo446]

Please just fix distant planet I hate how it looks and plays

[@Ashley3AndKnuckles]

pac land jumpscare

[@dattromboneguy]

Wait, I didn't know you could avoid some final smashes in the blast zone like that 😂😂😂😂

[@ProfessM]

Spiral mountain makes me sad. After someone pointed out Grunty should have a rhyme to dis all the fighters as an easter egg ala Shadow Moses. I can no longer go there.

[@zeipheil]

As Mother 3 fan I find New Pork City a bit lackluster. The Ultimate Chimera appearing is cool and all, and it OHKOing you is genuinely perfect as that is what it does in the original game, but the design of the map is kinda... just not there? It feels cobbled together with little thought.

[@themetalgamer9864]

Maybe just pull a Minecraft World / Mario Maker / Mushroomy Kingdom (in Brawl) and have multiple versions of the same stage theme.

[@mr.curtis6730]

Green hills is just a diet version of bridge of eldin

[@oliverhedberg3831]

I feel like I would have this new version of green hill as "green hill act 2" for those who still want play the original

[@RaisinHook]

To be entirely blunt, Smash barely considered online play even in Brawl, and ultimate ported as much as they could from the older games so most of the stages are outright shit since they don’t really belong in this game So Green Hill being changed as much as you did would probably not fix the stage and would just make a new stage named “Ultimate Green Hill”

[@LimitlessZspeed]

In another universe or timeline, Nintendo understood & all of these ideas were already put in the game.

[@Crimson_Crow88]

I can understand why walk offs can be annoying, but I feel that some stages are meant to be that way (bridge of elden is a stage my friends and I play often)

[@GoldandBold]

Temple got ruined for me because my friend always played on it and ran away. So I did the same and he got pissed and told me to not play Sonic again

[@aspabr]

7:04 Nintendoland music? Now that I think about it a Nintendoland themed stage would be cool (a sequel too but we all know that ain't happening)