HOW TO FIX YOUR SHOWER. (DIVERTER GATE FIX)

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[@dougiepooh2081]

Ya don't go about disassembling the valve by prying off the nylon chute. With water off, raise the knob then grasp the stem with pliers and unscrew the knob off. Then drop the stem and the remainder of assembly falls out the spigot. You don't need that entire kit unless the nylon chute is cracked or warped. Only replace the O-Ring then re-insert into the spigot and re-attach knob. Easy and inexpensive fix!

[@ETPCYT]

You, my friend, are a genius! I definitely did it the hard way! Thank you so much for your expertise in this matter. I hope it helps others. Again, thank you for this sage advice and have a great day!

[@jsku1688]

I have the same problem but I couldn't unscrew the knob even when clamping the stem with pliers as it's very slippery and difficult to hold on to. I used another pair of pliers on the knob but still couldn't turn it. Any suggestions?

[@ETPCYT]

lol you could try the way I did it in the video.. separating the white part that clips around the stem.. If you can't unscrew it, I don't see any other options.

[@grateful9181]

That is fine and dandy. However, I have called several manufacturers and they now weld the knob on. I can't find one like this with a screw off knob. That makes it very difficult if not I'm possible to just replace the gate. I guess the idea is to purchase a new spout too. Makes more money.

[@beckyshock3099]

Try holding the stem with pliers, and wiggling the top knob off.... that's the way I did it and finished the repair in reverse, from bottom up instead of having to force the diverter onto the stem, I put the diverter on first and the stem up through the hole, and attached the knob.

[@sanchezone6405]

is good sometimes to see someone to struggle when they're doing the videos that way when you do it it will not feel that much frustration if you cannot fix it at once

[@ETPCYT]

lol thank you for understanding.. I appreciate it.. Have a wonderful day Gabriel :)

[@jadenparcels5302]

My problem is that I put the plastic part in but it doesn’t go up all the way. I have been working on it for 2 days.. still can’t do it.

[@god5535]

Right on.

[@scotdeabs6472]

Finally found a video of replacing the diverter gate not replacing the spout. Painful to watch this guy struggle in this video but at it was very helpful to see how hard it is to get apart and back together.

[@ETPCYT]

Rofl, Thanks Scot for your comment. Another tip I got was to turn the faucet right-side-up and do it that way. Looking back at my video it makes me laugh. Have a great day!

[@dayanjackson9101]

I’m a single mother who just really moved far away from family and when this fell off I died because I didn’t know what it was called or how to fix it and when I searched it up your video was the first video to pop up and I watched it and omg I fixed it thanks to you

[@ETPCYT]

Hi DAYAN, I want to apologize for that video quality .. it was horrible.. I am glad YOU found it useful !

[@bobjohnson2729]

Thanks, good to see I’m not the only one who has this issue. The only thing I could suggest to everybody is take the faucet off the wall. There’s a screw underneath it just loses it and then it pulls right off the wall. It’s been a lot easier to do everything he’s trying to do

[@ETPCYT]

Great advice, BOB, Thank YOU! I wish I would have known that sooner.. Like YOU said it sure would have been easier :)

[@adakaroladakarol4091]

This is what I was looking for for 3 days. Thank you.

[@ETPCYT]

Hello my friend. I am so glad it helped. I do apologize for the poor quality of the video. lol I was holding and ipad while trying to do most of this stuff with one hand. Have a great day!

[@NovemberScoRpioQueen]

Thank you so much! You have no idea how much this video helped me.

[@ETPCYT]

You are VERY welcome :) It makes me happy to know I have been able to help! Have a wonderful year!

[@Bellamammal]

I laughed! I cried! I cussed. This was so true-to-life! Thank you!

[@ETPCYT]

lol as others have mentioned I am not a pro.. just an average joe.. I am glad YOU got a chuckle out of it :)

[@anikaigneasis4774]

Thank you so much for this!! My daughter unscrewed the diverter and I couldn't figure it out!! This video was a blessing for a single mom!!!

[@ETPCYT]

Hi, Anika! I am really glad this was helpful! Have a wonderful SUMMER :)

[@joearmandogrosso1356]

Hey. Still single.?

[@thathvacguy]

@@joearmandogrosso1356 lol !!!!!!! shoot ya shot son!!!

[@plumbmagic2712]

Just an FYI most older diverters can be unscrewed, but some of the newer ones companies have decided since so many people just buy new spouts to make them solid, if you see my video you can see me do almost the same thing as OP did in this one.(Only with an unattached clawfoot faucet.) We had a someone comment about it being easier to just unscrew, but it was just not possible as the knob was one piece with the stem. So if you can not unscrew yours it is very likely this new annoying version. It sucks, as you can not just replace the special washer anymore... I hate it, but at least it is less than $10 to buy the whole new diverter kit. Good Video by the way. Thumbs up!

[@ETPCYT]

Great tips, thank you! We all appreciate the sharing of knowledge .. Take care my FRIEND .

[@Ladyqueenhelpinghand2020]

Thank you 🙏🏾 very much I watch so many videos and came across your video help me so much

[@ETPCYT]

I am glad this worked for you ;)

[@grateful9181]

Works like a charm! Thank you.

[@ETPCYT]

Hah Great! I am happy to hear it and you are very welcome :)

[@no2nate]

Thanks for making this video. Others just showed how to replace the whole tub spout. Mine is all one piece with the knobs so I couldn't do that.

[@ETPCYT]

Hey, Bro :) YOU are welcome, I do apologize for the poor quality :P.. Have a great day

[@reneejuhl524]

Thanks for the video. Maybe this is what Becky Shock was saying but I (have a twist off not set screw kind) stuck a wrench in the faucet hole and turned the faucet upside down so I could see inside it and worked upside down. We'll see how it goes but seems it would be easier instead of trying to do it blindly from underneath.

[@ETPCYT]

Good call, I definitely think that would be easier. All the best on your install :)

[@us72mc3156]

good to do it that way also...:)as long as u don't have to work on the tiles...

[@purchmansellinvestments4975]

Thank uou very much for this video! Very helpful and saved me time and anger.

[@ETPCYT]

YOU are most welcome PURCH :)

[@F3ND1MUS]

thank you for your awesome tutorial on how to diy my shower diverter gate, need it.

[@ETPCYT]

My friend You are always welcome!

[@lylefriel5069]

Thanks for your video - even with the challenges. I had some of the same. By the way, our Moen top doesn't screw off.

[@ETPCYT]

You are most welcome, Lyle. Yeah, lol, it wasn't my best moment :). Good to know about the Moen faucet! Have a good one bro :)

[@robertmiller4542]

The inside of your faucet might have corroded and that's the reason why the diverter gate does not seal completely. I am facing the same problem! I think I would replace the whole tub spout and diverter. Thanks for sharing the video !

[@ETPCYT]

I think you are right, Robert. Even though we don't have hard water it is about 20 years old so a new spout would do it right. Thank you for your helpful advice!

[@mattb9664]

For the well water home owners, like me, before buying anything, remove the diverter and washer as per the video. Then check and remove any sediment grit from the washer. Reassemble and the diverter leak should be gone assuming the washer was in good condition.

[@ETPCYT]

Concise and accurate! Thanks for the great advice, Matt :)

[@michellechase101]

Wow... I never thought about that. Thanks for the heads up 👍

[@ETPCYT]

No problem, Michelle, have a great day!

[@EC4400]

Thanks for sharing your video.

[@ETPCYT]

great suggestion! thank you.

[@us72mc3156]

BEST THING TO DO FOLKS,IS TAKE OUT SPOUT

[@ETPCYT]

Awesome advice, thank you, Ruben! Happy home repairing :) Great advice!

[@us72mc3156]

You're welcome.Mine is done,so are the tiles...

[@ETPCYT]

You should make videos :)

[@Shadoefax760]

God I feel dumb. My shower been leaking for longest time and it was the rubber stamp inside diverter my brother put in backwards. Thank you for your help!

[@ETPCYT]

Lol you are most welcome.. take care

[@F3ND1MUS]

You know just how to make my day!

[@ETPCYT]

:)

[@F3ND1MUS]

@@ETPCYT hahahahhaha

[@CK-vf8xn]

Thanks

[@ETPCYT]

you are welcome :)

[@pcchiu4027]

Thanks , Good video!

[@ETPCYT]

Kinda bad quality.. I am glad it helped :)

[@devintran9884]

Thanks for the video, just had to replace the hot valve stem and seat on my hot side but want to take care of the cold side and diverter gate- I think the gate guide metal( faucet) has been eaten away, though as it's all pitted and deformed I'll have to look into it and see if there's even enough meat to warrant a repair- house was from the late forties, not sure how up to date anything is besides the paint between tenants. I think the grease in the center of the rubber seal ring might prevent it from sealing effectively, that it's supposed to pressurize and slide into the faucet. Maybe applying some grease to the actual faucet apperature? I'm using the green Permatex (advanced ultra disk brake caliper) lube, but would you recommend a specific brand, formulation or consistency?

[@ETPCYT]

Hello, Damz, you are most welcome for the video. Thank you for watching and your comment. It sounds you know more about grease than I do my friend. I wish I could be more helpful. I am not an expert in these matters and I am not sure you even need to apply a lubricant. I think you may be right about the grease and it not allowing to work as effectively as it might. The old washer was really broken down and I was hoping that the silicon would help protect it a little. It sounds like you are doing a lot of work on your house.. All the best my friend. ;)

[@phxsun2001tony]

The round button can be removed by unscrewing it from the stem. The plastic diverter will just drop off. That's the proper way to remove and reassemble it.

[@ETPCYT]

Thanks so much!

[@Caercutta30]

Hey everybody! I had no intentions of spending money to fix this. I learned how the diverter valve worked and trimmed a toothpaste tube into a new gasket and crammed it into place. WORKS GREAT. Also don't forget to calk the base of the spigot to keep water out of the walls

[@ETPCYT]

great tip, thank YOU!

[@Caercutta30]

@@ETPCYT lol im thinking of starting a jury rigging channel. Real irresponsible stuff

[@ETPCYT]

@@Caercutta30 I would encourage you to do so.. I have been doing YT for about 3 years now and the DIY and HOW TO videos are really popular. I think YOU would do well! START CRANKING OUT THE VIDS my FRIEND :)

[@doctormarkbrady]

Two things: Plug the drain so you don't drop the parts into it; unloosen the set screw on the underside of the spout, turn it 180 degrees, and then do all the work from the top!

[@ETPCYT]

Sage advice for sure! Thanks my Friend!

[@mvj1153]

The struggle is real....lol

[@ETPCYT]

lol NO kidding!.. Hindsight I wish I had a tripod for the camera.. It was not easy trying to do this and hold the camera.. Take care, MIKE :)

[@rescue4u]

Definitely a good video of what not to do. Your seal is upside down. Why are you trying to put is back together on the pipe? Unscrew it and let it drop down.

[@ETPCYT]

Thanks for the tips my FRIEND :)

[@arkg8597]

Why didnt you remove spout from the wall first? Im crying...

[@ETPCYT]

I wish I would have know that was all I had to do :) As if it wasn't enough that I was doing most of this while juggling and Ipad lol. I had to do it the hard way. Sorry for the tears my FRIEND ;) Take care!

[@god5535]

This is much better. As a n00b I don't wanna take the risk. Stop crying.

[@kelseysreborns]

I dont know what the actual knob part is that you pull up on the spout is called (the little whit piece inside) , it probably is the divert er. But that little pull up piece has come off completely so thats why the shower head isnt working. I guess replace that little spout piece and I should be good. Also my shower has 3 parts to it not just the shout

[@ETPCYT]

There are different brands of faucets.. mostly similar I believe. I am not sure on the part names either. You should be able to pick up the whole little kit at a local hardware store.. (ace, home depot, lowes, etc) If not try to find the brand of shower you have and do a search looking for that particular set. I don't know if they sell each piece separately. I hope this helps.

[@mestizoboy]

The "little whit (sic) piece inside" is called a diverter gate

[@cgg5804]

And thank you so much for this how to video!

[@ETPCYT]

You are welcome.. Thank you for watching my video! I do appreciate it! Have a great day, CG.

[@jonfreeman9682]

I tried doing the same but it's still leaking water when the shower is on. I think it's a design flaw of the diverter. It's too loose and washer with hole doesn't form a tight seal. It seems like a poor design to me. Also what does the grease do? Does it harden to form a tighter seal or does it provide lubricant so it can slide against metal better? Or does it form a rubber laminate to help preserve the rubbery suppleness?

[@ETPCYT]

Hey JON, I don't think the diverter ever forms a completely watertight seal.. I think the grease preserves the rubber from breaking down

[@jonfreeman9682]

@@ETPCYT Thanks for the reply. I used CLR to remove the limestone buildup and smoothed out the rough edges and there's some improvement but still leaking and even drips to the back of the spout on the inside. I think my spout is just worn out. Must be at least 15 years so I bought another whole new spout. Honestly it didn't even cost that much more. The diverter part was $8 and a spout assembly was just $30 and now drips only a little at the front. Much better. I try to save a few bucks but not getting satisfactory results but replacing the spout worked. Thanks for your video and tips. 👍

[@HighSociety420]

Thank you to who ever made this video really helpful fixed mine in seconds 🙂

[@ETPCYT]

Awesome! I am glad it was helpful! and YOU are welcome :)

[@makaylathacker1694]

I have done this but the pull thing just keeps falling down.

[@ETPCYT]

You mean the part you pull up to get the water to come out of the shower head? There needs to be enough water pressure to hold it up.. also if it is not creating enough of a seal it will not stay up. If you have a lot of build up of minerals from the water, that can obstruct the gate from functioning correctly.. Maybe try making sure it is free from build-up. I hope this helps

[@us72mc3156]

Isn't it easier to take out the faucet from the wall first?Just twist it off...and cover drain hole,so no parts fall in...

[@ETPCYT]

Hey Ruben, thank you for your tip :). This was the first time I had done this. it did seem a little more difficult than it should have been. Live and learn. That's why I like KZbin, everyone can share information and increase knowledge and skills for others. Have a good one!

[@us72mc3156]

Ur welcome,my first time also,but i had to take it off anyway to fix the tiles...

[@ETPCYT]

So, the faucet just twists off? Is there a screw or anything else that needs to be removed first? And good luck on your bathroom renovation :)

[@us72mc3156]

Depends on the spout,it might have a allen screw at the bottom,u loosen then pull out,some u need to screw off

[@us72mc3156]

Just saw it on a video on youtube...yours has a screw,just saw it...

[@kingunion]

Should have watched the entire video haha, mine leaked even more, looks like a few problems, one the gate was not the right fit, second the damn thing was crusted with lime/calcium(I cleaned out but it was those that prevented more leak) Going to have to change the entire thing, lesson learned will watch the plumber

[@kingunion]

Also nice you had the same outcome XD couldn’t put the old one cause I broke it

[@ETPCYT]

Man, Sorry I was not more helpful. Yeah, the buildup can be an issue if you got hard water. Good luck with it my friend ;)

[@ETPCYT]

Sorry my friend. I wish my video could have been a little better ;)

[@kingunion]

@@ETPCYT My dad ended up just buying a whole faucet to replace two that had the issues and I installed it for him. Bit more money but easier to do, than shoving that damn thing back in there for sure. thanks again!

[@ETPCYT]

Not a bad way to go.. I think if the build up or corrosion is too much it will be difficult for the diverter gate to make a good seal. Probably easier doing what your dad did rather than messing with it too much :) Have a good one, Buddy.

[@cgg5804]

Can you just buy the spring part? That's all I need...

[@ETPCYT]

CG, I am not sure.. I don't recall seeing it.. I am sorry to not be more helpful :)

[@MrHardrock]

Be careful!!! my contractor did not use a brass nipple. He used the brass tubing so when i tried to unscrew it it twisted off and broke the tubing. I will now see if can replace it with a nipple or just add a piece of tubing.

[@ETPCYT]

David, Thanks for the heads up! Appreciate all the tips and tricks :)

[@carolynrablen7407]

Why not unscrew the spout and then you wouldn't be working upside down to install the part? Wouldn't that make the job easier?

[@ETPCYT]

Yes, yes it would. lol I actually wasn't aware that it could be unscrewed lol. LIVE and learn. Thank you for your advice, Carolyn. I wish I would have known sooner. :)

[@orandreru]

Just fixed my shower! Thank you.

[@ETPCYT]

GREAT!! :) YOU are most welcome my FRIEND :)

[@orandreru]

:)

[@dragonvue09]

still see water leak out of spout at the end of video. I think the prob is somewhere else not the diverter gate.

[@ETPCYT]

Yeah it still leaks a little because I have some mineral build up around the spout.. If I took that off it would make a better seal.

[@daijoubu4529]

To top can be unscrewed...

[@ETPCYT]

Thank you for the tip my friend :)

[@SimplyRedVirginia]

I did this and it didn't fix my problem. I'm going to try a replacement spout, but I'm thinking it may be the main diverter valve. The most frustrating thing about the gate diverter instructions is they tell you so simply take a small screwdriver and pry those plastic tabs apart. Not the right tool. I found that an allen wrench/hex key works well. Doesn't have to be a hex wrench, could be any rod or shaft that just barely slips between the plastic tabs above where the pull rod snaps in, then simply push laterally to either side while pulling the rod. This rod or piece is inserted in the direction parallel to the pull rod, literally lay it right on top of the diverter pull rod on the side where the plastic tabs are open/separated, and push left or right while pulling the pull rod out.

[@ETPCYT]

I had some corrosion around the part of the spout that the diverter gate blocks off. It may be you have some buildup too that does not allow it to seal fully. Thank you for your tips, they are most appreciated! Have a wonderful day!

[@SimplyRedVirginia]

So, I found out actually that the diverter gate replacement Moen told me was the correct one, was slightly off in its measurement. The easy way to explain it is, when I installed the Moen replacement part, if I looked through the spout from the wall side (removed spout to replace the part and eyeballed back through the back of it to see the replacement diverter), I could see it wasn't covering the hole completely, it was about 1/16" or so off center. I verified this by taking it back out and placing it (the plastic piece) on the edge of my workbench, any good sharp corner surface will work for this, and sighting across the two plastic pieces sitting next to each other. The distance from where the pull knob stem snaps in to the plastic to where the plastic stops inside the spout when you pull the knob-stem up, was slightly different. So I went to Lowe's and found their generic diverter replacement part, and took it out of the package right there in the store to verify it (I love when manufacturers package so you can access it without damaging the packaging, smart move) and sure enough, the generic diverter was the exact distance/size as the old one. Moen's replacement part was wrong/off. So, I installed the generic one and it lines up well, but you are right, I think 24 years of corrosion is part of the problem. I scraped off as much as I could and still the diverter leaked a little but still better than the result you had in the video. So, I made a thin plastic washer cut down in diameter from it's original size to fit in the seat where the rubber seal inserts, and put it in the seat behind the rubber seal, pushing the seal maybe a bit less than 1/16" farther out, tighter against the spigot hole. This created almost a total seal, but pulling the knob/stem is stiffer so it doesn't fall back down naturally when the valve is turned off, so you have to push it back down. Also, the new replacement plastic part, either the Moen or the generic had shorter plastic tabs where the rod snaps in, making it even harder to pry them loose. When I removed the generic one to put in that shim washer I nearly had to break it, literally sitting it on a bench and using a hammer and punch rod to force the pull rod back through in the direction its not supposed to. But it survived and snapped back together OK. But with the new ones, even the allen wrench/hex key trick I mentioned before did not work. Saved me a total spout replacement. I also replaced the o-rings on the part that slips over the 1/2" copper pipe. Down the road when it ticks me off again I will just buy and install a quality spigot. Moen's basic one is twice what the universal ones cost, but its a super simple switch out...one set screw, old one off, new one on, tighten set screw...done...maybe a little plumbers silicone grease.

[@ETPCYT]

Wow thank you so much for your detailed and helpful post. Most appreciated! I realize the video is not much help here as I was holding the camera and trying to do this one- handed lol.

[@personalperspective]

What did you do after 11:21 where it was still leaking and then you cut at 11:27 to say "let's see how it works now" and it works? I replaced the diverter gate and it's still leaking like it does in 11:21.

[@ETPCYT]

Hrrmm. I think I took it out and cleaned around the area that gets sealed.. it can get some buildup that blocks the rubber part from making a good seal.. I am trying to remember since that was a while ago.. okay I watched the video.. and the diverter kit I bought was slightly off.. I wound up using the old one and just replacing the rubber seal as it fit much better..

[@personalperspective]

@@ETPCYT Thank you for your reply! I'll try that. I'll also have to try the silicone plumber's grease as well. Right now it leaks worse than before! =) Thanks also for the video as that saved tons of time just getting the diverter off for replacement.

[@ETPCYT]

okay, I hope it works out :) Sorry I was late on the reply.. I try to answer all comments as quickly as possible. Take care my FRIEND :)

[@grateful9181]

It doesn't look like it worked

[@ETPCYT]

not 100% water diverted. it is 20 years old so it does have some mineral build up. I would say I am at 95% water diverted which is much better than it was.

[@jadenparcels5302]

How did that work do well for you? I did that same thing and still doesn’t work.

[@ETPCYT]

Hrmm.. have you checked your faucet.. if you have hard water, their could be some build up around the area where the seal is. If there is too much your washer won't make a proper seal and it will not work very well if at all.

[@stopstop928]

Look folks, the tub water comes out via the SPOUT ($10 - $25 each depending on the style you choose) the spout parts wear out. Replace it by UNSCREWING it (twisting it to the Left) from the wall (with water off). Add Teflon Tape ($1.99 per small roll) to threads. Put the spout back on by twisting to the right. Hand tighten it. Test it and Jump In!

[@ETPCYT]

Awesome advice From an ALL AMERICAN HERO! Thank you my friend :)

[@mw10259]

JOE PLUMBER

[@ETPCYT]

:)

[@josephlamadrid1799]

What happened? I fell asleep!

[@ETPCYT]

lol Yeah I know how to take a 1 minute job and make it complicated :)... This was more difficult than I thought..

[@peaceb560]

This ad is getting tired as 😩😩

[@ETPCYT]

lol Ads... can't live with them.. can't live without them :)

[@laydownforcsfleaks277]

Lol same thing happened to me when I tried to fix it... Still leaking...

[@ETPCYT]

Mine leaks just a little now.. tolerable levels I guess. I think it is just an older faucet and to stop it altogether I would have to get a new faucet assembly. For the time being this is fine :)

[@halfawhiteguy3145]

hahahah get the jackhammer from the garage hahahhaha unscrew the stem not rocket science

[@ETPCYT]

lol a jackhammer might be a little over kill :)

[@keningram2781]

The new ones don't unscrew just the older ones.

[@mw10259]

BY THE WAY PARTSMASTERPRO'S WEBSITE SUCKS

[@ETPCYT]

Appreciate the comment :)

[@dzigner]

Best thing to do, is get someone else to do it!

[@ETPCYT]

what? and miss all the life experience and satisfaction of a job well done? :) Take care, Daniel :)

[@hopefullyhelpful1]

You should really just remove this video with all the bad advice and mistakes.

[@ETPCYT]

or maybe label at how not to change the shower diverter gate