This short shows one of many ways to force patina on an axe during a restoration. Once all the grinding and rust removal are done, oftentimes we want to add a little aged look back. This technique uses cold Bluing.
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@TylerSnyder305 Жыл бұрын
Why not just leave the original natural patina on it ? That's something you can't force or replicate, it takes years to develop naturally so I never remove it. Just a wire wheel to take the rust off, all the years are still left on the steel.
@Mr1121628 Жыл бұрын
It barely had any “patina” on it. That’s why he forced it. Because it has pitting but it’s clearly shiny. So he applies a light patina to match the pitting. The reason he forced it, well you answered it in your own question, because it takes years and years to develop that and ain’t nobody got time for that! Besides, it looks great as a finished product.
@cmpoirot1 Жыл бұрын
Patina I think is just kinda BS, since I'm not really into the aesthetic stuff, but adding the blueing is actually pretty useful since it will prevent further oxidation
@TylerSnyder305 Жыл бұрын
@@cmpoirot1 not as well as a naturally formed patina that has developed over time. Patina is the history of the tool, and a natural rust protectant. Why remove that only to have to artificially patina it afterwards?
@cmpoirot1 Жыл бұрын
@@TylerSnyder305 but it is better. It is extremely difficult to control corrosion on steel to form a protective oxide later. You can blue steel though different heat treatments at the cost of hardness, but that's the closest that you are going to get to the corrosion protection that you will get from a chemically controlled oxidation process. Natural patina results in deep pitting and uneven wear, which can be appealing depending on who's looking, but that serves no functional purpose, actually degrading the tool over time by serving as crack propagation sites. You originally asked why, and while I can almost guarantee this guy did it purely to darken the metal, but it is helping the tools longevity more than any natural patina would do
@TylerSnyder305 Жыл бұрын
@@cmpoirot1 that is not true. And you can have natural patina without pitting, it's just that with axes that patina has commonly formed from red rust. Pitting is not going to make an axe more susceptible to cracking either, cracks form at points of stress and sharp corners...etc. On an axe with very thin walls very very deep pitting ( only seen on axes that were dug up ) you could weaken it, but that's not really a very common scenario.
@griffinphilemon5083 Жыл бұрын
You can also use 0000 steel wool instead of sand paper. Just another way to skin the cat for yah. Well done!
@robbobthecorncobjriii819511 ай бұрын
That's a concerning phrase I've never heard before lol. Please *_dont_* skin the cat
@JayDeeFrm74002 ай бұрын
Holyy thanks for the info bro don't know why I've never thought of using steel wool for texturing heads I bet that would look bad ass with a cloudy matte type of finish (not worried about extra friction I buy every deep pitted axe head that I run up on cause I'm all for the barbaric look) and most people sell them cheap cause of the condition not knowing that was the selling point for me😂
@michaelblue4028 Жыл бұрын
I just really love when something gets Blued!😜
@FailedEmmisions10 ай бұрын
If you want a copper coat get some copper sulfate root killer and dilute in watee in a spray bottle and you have spray on copper coating (it looks blue but on steel turns back into a copper color)
@joshmajor866210 ай бұрын
FYI-the temp matters!! He skated over that VERY important detail haha 😂
@brookelord344810 ай бұрын
I was wondering why the head was so warm. Why not turn on the AC? 😅
@old_iron_axe_and_tool9 ай бұрын
Do you not control the temperature when Bluing? I've found that 75-90 degrees get the best results.
@CaptainRon7610 ай бұрын
Nice, I never would have thought of putting boiled linseed oil on anything but wood
@kumakaroshi1178 ай бұрын
The instant change is amazing
@user-nt8oz8db8nАй бұрын
Also you can try lemon acid with heat it makes similar result.
@AV5Z48 ай бұрын
Used this process on stuff that I’ve made and left out in the rain on purpose and after a week of rusting it I went through this process. I use the blue in a spray bottle in one hand and a propane torch in the other. Linseed is what I was taught to use for sealing it as well. Easy to strip off and reapply.
@nathanarievlis398510 ай бұрын
That came out really nice. Solid system
@danielvoore863910 ай бұрын
“How to waste time, instead of using the tool for what it’s meant for”
@adamsifford62287 ай бұрын
Chopping wood lol
@adamsifford62287 ай бұрын
I want to restore old estwing hatchet is why I'm here. Js
@sealy81 Жыл бұрын
How to make your new shit look like old shit.👍🏼
@old_iron_axe_and_tool Жыл бұрын
Right
@In-The-Trees10 ай бұрын
Dude this is awesome!! Im currently working on polishing and engraving, this would would be cool to do on engraved one.
@H00v3r10 ай бұрын
Why boiled linseed on head?? What is your benefit? Ive always used a clp on the metal... balistol, gunbreak, or wd40 (in a pinch) but ive never used the handle oil on the metal.
@alexelliott4869 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@natejansen89210 ай бұрын
Don't care what my axes look as long as they work. Using them regularly seasons em up nice.
@Bleckdez6 ай бұрын
Im very like it colour axe,I want to do the same with my axes.Can I ask you, is what you used was blue paint,or how it called?
@Shakerhood698 ай бұрын
Nice work
@BullySportfishing10 ай бұрын
Try using a sunshine cloth with a little oil! Super cool finish
@blickluke7 ай бұрын
Is this a good idea to do to a chefs knife? I think mines just average or a bit above average stainless steel japanese steel chefs knife
@jyeprice938210 ай бұрын
Ryan renolds straight brother. 😂
@stuart6836 Жыл бұрын
The first question is.....why?
@hunterhaon426510 ай бұрын
He can't swing it enough he's probly an east coaster
@chuggon759510 ай бұрын
@@hunterhaon4265the east coast has more trees than the west coast
@rambosquirrel120810 ай бұрын
Hipster needs it to look like he's been at it a long time.
@caffeinefather10 ай бұрын
Jokes aside, forced patinas help protect against rust, which is a good idea for your carbon steel tools
@hunterhaon426510 ай бұрын
@@caffeinefather you can just use it for patina tho, if it's sitting in your garage unused it won't rust in general.( unless your garage is shit like my dads)
@eaguilera44367 ай бұрын
What brand of blueing solution did you use?
@franoismare951210 ай бұрын
Hey hey AxMan. How you doing. Just a Q for all your followers. I inheretid my great great grand dad original Ax. He only replaced the hanle 4 times and the ax head twice. Hou can I make it nice again. I want to mount it above my fireplace ?????? Happy Axing
@chrisswanson664210 ай бұрын
yep that's definitely one way to do it
@user-sh1mg4dp2nАй бұрын
"How to force patina... Step one, buy patina forcing compound."
@MikeySkywalker5 ай бұрын
Man, people love to inject their own opinion into the situation, as if it’s some kinds of written in stone fact. We can all do what we want with our axes guys. No need to be finger wagging in the comments. Jeez.
@patriotcents11 ай бұрын
Never ruin the Original patina
@criticalyoshi Жыл бұрын
Boiled lindseed would just make it sticky yeah?
@old_iron_axe_and_tool Жыл бұрын
If you put to much on, yes. For heads I just cover it in blo and whipe it clean with a rag, leaving a very thin layer.
@captainhook1853 ай бұрын
Which Type of Blue Solution is this?
@Gator-357 Жыл бұрын
You can also soak in in a hot vinegar and salt solution.
@ericgarner45810 ай бұрын
Older peices aren't going to match up with a new peice are they ?? surely the style of a chooping axe has stayed the same since the first one !maybe idk just smartassing a neat video 🎉
@Crazt10 ай бұрын
So what was the point of showing us the surface temperature?
@enochpage133310 ай бұрын
What purposing is bluing?
@ifrainjimenez88577 ай бұрын
👍 nice
@WexyFlex8 ай бұрын
Next, he'll show how to make a beautiful centerpiece with old axe handles......👍🏽
@jimjones39510 ай бұрын
Why? Does that make it cut better? Exactly. Just use it, sharpen it, oil it, and it already has patina even before he did that silliness. Patina is just referring to the natural aged look of the metal.
@johnmutton799Ай бұрын
Try mixing the oil with beeswax for long term storage. Works great on handles to . Apply with a rag, leave for 5 minutes, then buff!
@rockridgewoodshop Жыл бұрын
I collect vintage J. H. Williams wrenches. 90% have the original patina, but some have been wire wheeled by a well-meaning seller. I'll try this.
@old_iron_axe_and_tool Жыл бұрын
The age old question of clean or leave the patina. When I buy an axe I want it as found. But with all the rust and junk it's hard to see it's condition and value it. Wrench is different though.
@Ave_Satana666 Жыл бұрын
@@old_iron_axe_and_toolmust be real rich to not value new things anymore
@Ave_Satana666 Жыл бұрын
@@old_iron_axe_and_toolthe shine of my tools is what give m world any light
@old_iron_axe_and_tool Жыл бұрын
@CJ "must be real rich to not value things anymore " what exactly do you mean by this? What makes you think I don't value things, or that I'm rich. Or are you just that guy?
@adrlok8538 Жыл бұрын
Mmmm. Linseed oil is that good good. I make old school furniture with iron fittings, and that stuff has a thousand uses.
@joeferris508610 ай бұрын
Also ferric acid is great for this
@slmdnkasr8 ай бұрын
What was the point of blueing it and then sanding it??? Why not leave it blued?? isn’t that the whole point???
@mattyvlietstra501710 ай бұрын
Why boiled linseed oil?
@lostpyper697310 ай бұрын
I use my ax. It looks old and used. The edge is shiny from being sharpened. The end.
@logangrimnar38009 ай бұрын
What i it's notva Jersey Pattern Slasher Axe?!
@joshmajor866210 ай бұрын
This would be awesome in 5.7 or 22 mag or something alittle faster than 9 mil. Still cool tho, useful!! 👍
@cmccoy-ef5oo11 ай бұрын
He looks like Ryan McCarthy from Never Back Down
@R3dp055um8 ай бұрын
What's the point?
@syedrafiqkazim44810 ай бұрын
Interesting how fast the bluing solution started doing its thing
@helmut9268 ай бұрын
It’s cold blue. It’s mostly a cosmetic thing. A real bluing solution would be rust blue
@user-uf6wb4jz3e10 ай бұрын
Is it a tool or art? Just asking for the trees?
@tyronekim35068 ай бұрын
The people who do this have nothing but time on their hands.
@_BigLife_ Жыл бұрын
This process works great on vises as well.
@dogwalker66610 ай бұрын
I would just use a flap wheel on my angle grinder.
@matter98 ай бұрын
How to use bluing solution, but with extra unnecessary steps. Gold star.
@phillipwhite37428 ай бұрын
1000 grit means 1000 little chunks per square inch so when it’s two 220 grit it’s 220 per square inch
@old_iron_axe_and_tool8 ай бұрын
No shit?
@MorRobots8 ай бұрын
It's essentially mesh size. Not particles per unit area. Mesh is the standard for grading any kind of powders. Once you hit about +1000 mesh/grit your better off speaking in terms of microns. Technically speaking you can get an optical finish at 8000 git (2.6 micron)
@leotalavera165610 ай бұрын
Salt and vinegar NEXT!!
@eulisesacevedo492910 ай бұрын
Is it me or did he just enhance the patina that was already there?
@zachattack0130 Жыл бұрын
other option is also to use vinegar
@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x2810 ай бұрын
Mark Novak is having a stroke watching this.
@ztzozm10 ай бұрын
Production paper, not sand paper.
@zeusapollo86889 ай бұрын
Try ammonia or vinegar
@MorRobots8 ай бұрын
Boild lindeed oil... 🤢🤮 if you're going to paint it, then just paint it. So technically, you almost got it right. Bluing solution, 1k sanding, cleaning (degreaser, non polar solvent) Bluing, 1k sanding, rinse and repeat. Just lighting up the sanding each time.
@jimromansr997110 ай бұрын
Why do this to begin with?
@nateb4543 Жыл бұрын
How to lightly blue steel? Use a small amount of blueing product. Gee thanks
@old_iron_axe_and_tool Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@ducatista1098s10 ай бұрын
I've never seen someone apply BLO with a paint/chip brush in my life lol
@old_iron_axe_and_tool10 ай бұрын
Well now you have.
@WanderingMiqo Жыл бұрын
Why sand the bluing off?
@old_iron_axe_and_tool Жыл бұрын
To give it a more rustic look. It's really just the first step in reestablish establishing a patina. The BLO will really help in protecting the steel.
@84sjsm10 ай бұрын
Whats the point of this?
@philg61158 ай бұрын
Next use voodoo
@chrisanthony57911 ай бұрын
Wow, that's a sexy hunk of metal!
@PaxHeadroom8 ай бұрын
Just use a hot bluing process.
@Surv1ve_Thrive Жыл бұрын
First step: get it a little tipsy.
@k.l.u6254 Жыл бұрын
Does linseed oil penetrate steel?
@old_iron_axe_and_tool Жыл бұрын
Nope, it's a protective coating.
@oldkingcrow777 Жыл бұрын
@@old_iron_axe_and_toolit does actually but not like it does when we think of wood. Not disagreeing just clarifying
@BombproofCraftsman Жыл бұрын
Wow, some people really don’t like change! Why would anyone care what you do with your tools?
@traditionalbushcraft10 ай бұрын
Or just use vinegar
@hdrjunkie Жыл бұрын
Why would you want to force a patina?
@Lastman737 Жыл бұрын
Hipster bullshit
@michaelhennegan963710 ай бұрын
Why would you want to do this?
@UltraMagaFan11 ай бұрын
Bluing steel and adding patina to steel aren’t the same thing. The title of this video is misleading.
@old_iron_axe_and_tool11 ай бұрын
It's exactly the same thing. Ever since the word was invented its meant " oxidized metal " copper specifically I believe. Anyway, you should look up how cold Bluing works.
@UltraMagaFan11 ай бұрын
@@old_iron_axe_and_tool Patina on steel is rust. Bluing does not create red iron oxide.
@brentadamson837311 ай бұрын
Are you screwing with us when you do the temperature check
@old_iron_axe_and_tool11 ай бұрын
No sir. Temp definitely makes a difference.
@brentadamson837311 ай бұрын
@@old_iron_axe_and_tool Just checking 😏
@kimmosaarinen27809 ай бұрын
@@old_iron_axe_and_tool Huh, well, this day wasn't complete waste, I learned something new. Thanks.
@Jrez Жыл бұрын
No ballistol?
@old_iron_axe_and_tool Жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. I dumped it all out when I learned they sponsored an antifa member.
@Jrez Жыл бұрын
@@old_iron_axe_and_tool Where did you hear that?
@old_iron_axe_and_tool Жыл бұрын
@@Jrez pretty sure wrangler star is sponsored by them.
@Jrez Жыл бұрын
@@old_iron_axe_and_tool Where did you hear that?
@oldkingcrow777 Жыл бұрын
@@old_iron_axe_and_toolWrangler is antifa? 😂 I guess technically he's a REAL anti fascist
@jzajzayijun22827 ай бұрын
Why? ... 😮 ... Just..... Why? 😢
@crossmanbluev60499 ай бұрын
What
@thee_number_six622711 ай бұрын
So its just "antiquing"
@RonnieOrtiz-ro5ki10 ай бұрын
It not axe it’s wood slasher
@choppedandbobbed972910 ай бұрын
Step 1- use it
@paulhare6629 ай бұрын
Soaking them in a tub of pee gives a nice brown color.
@dodgersfnshepard86739 ай бұрын
Or you know..use it
@bobwhelk211710 ай бұрын
The fecal matter count in that beard must be thru the roof!
@Dylan-_-0111 ай бұрын
Ok but why
@joshmajor866210 ай бұрын
Or just take care of your tools 🤷♂️ that’s always an option haha 😂
@ashtonroffe10 ай бұрын
Purty
@flyiny_sqiurrel10 ай бұрын
Have you heard of angel grinder?
@luvmechanix Жыл бұрын
Shoulda just rusted and boiled it
@michaelgarrow323910 ай бұрын
Or you could just chop wood n stuff..
@gandar549 ай бұрын
No
@Thode-R Жыл бұрын
how to waist time...? yes?
@old_iron_axe_and_tool Жыл бұрын
What's that, you posting this negative comment? Or you just mindlessly scrolling through shorts?
@ericolijnyk3392 Жыл бұрын
Why would you want to do that? who you trying to impress? It's a tool I don't get how you guys got to this point.
@slappy8941 Жыл бұрын
Patina looks cool and protects the metal from rusting.