How to get expensive paint for cheap + Stop overworking yourself 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@frankartale1026]

This channel, Kandyman & Paint Society are the 3 best on youtube. I'm a painter since 1996 and i have sprayed alot of different brands and alot of different guns. Trigger man knows his stuff

[@thetriggerman954]

I'm familiar with paint society. Never Heard of the other dude. But thank you man much appreciated 😎🤙🏼💪🏼

[@frankartale1026]

@@thetriggerman954 bro check him out. He is the best. For real.

[@JStock-id1qi]

Hey Trigger, very good advice. I painted a horse trailer with Omni metallic. Horrible outcome. My supply store recommended the Omni plus. It was a little better , but not by much... The horse didn't even like it.

[@thetriggerman954]

😂😂😂😂😂 🐎🐎🐎 dam that's when you know it's bad 😞

[@silvercommander]

This car is beautiful. Nice job.

[@thetriggerman954]

@@silvercommander thank you sir 🫡 much appreciated 💪🏼

[@robertfontaine3650]

That's a good idea for testing out the quality of different paints. Priced out an OEM metallic to respray my old BMW and at 600+ gallon it gets very tempting to find a cheaper paint.

[@thetriggerman954]

@@robertfontaine3650 yes sir that's a little pricey there. Plenty of other options now days.

[@LuisC202]

​@@thetriggerman954 what do you recommend?

[@thetriggerman954]

@@LuisC202 PPG, Cromabase, ProSpray, to name a few

[@sideshowscot7815]

Solid advice as ever trigger. It take years for painters to develop their technique. I was recently asked to use some cheaper clear on a commercial vehicle. I added my usual reducer and it hit the floor. I later added just 5% less reducer and it WOULD NOT flow out. I later found out my boss had purchased 5 x 5 gallon kits on the cheap. On top of all that it was responsible for turning whites and silvers a yellower shade. It has been a nightmare.☠💀👻💩 Like you say, "Poor material create work". Great work with the channel.👋 Spray on brother 🤜🤛

[@thetriggerman954]

5 kits 😩 you'll be spraying that stuff for months , now that sucks lol spray on brother spray on

[@lawncuttingplusdelta]

This video is a great example of the value of triggers experience and inspiration to gain knowledge and help us guys get confidence to paint our own sh!t ! 👍🏻💪🏻

[@thetriggerman954]

That's right my man. We'll get you guys spraying some shit that'll last without killing yourselves 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@BucketsChartersErie]

Omni 260 clear is pretty good stuff for what we use it for. Tamco hi impact is what we use daily niw

[@georgepetrillo7316]

I use the Omni clear too. The 101. Goes on pretty good. Nice glass finish.

[@timgiesin4025]

When I painted my old classic I wanted to paint it the original color but the paint store here had a gallon and a half of Ditzler in a Rootbeer Metalic that that the customer didn't want and I picked it up for $200 for all of it

[@thetriggerman954]

You see 🙌🏼 lots of paint stores have that. You save tons and for good paint. Thanks for chiming in Tim 💪🏻😎

[@keithroute8906]

Nice work. I understand the cheap paint issues. Metallics, not all but especially the cheap metallics are somewhat transparent and don’t cover well in one or two coats. I have sprayed a lot of cheap paint over the years. Sometimes the metallic paints were so cheap I had to spray a silver pre-base coat or a pre-color coat before the metallic base coat. The paint was so cheap I don’t know if six coats would cover without seeing through the paint. You are correct, there are good reasonably priced quality paints out there that lay out and cover well that would aid big time for a beginner. Most beginners buy the cheapest paint they can find thinking they actually should (incase the paint job turns out bad, they didn’t invest a lot in it). They have no idea that they about guaranteed themselves the paint job would turn in to a disaster. They then live with the crappy paint job or they have to sand their lives away and shoot the car again. There is a utuber that sprayed I think it was a Plymouth Satellite three times and it came out terrible all three times. He gave up and drives it that way blaming himself when he didn’t change up anything and pretty much never learned anything. Some things he did correctly and some things he did made me cringe, so besides spraying unknown paint he didn’t know how to set up his gun or how to keep a wet edge and it is unknown what quality of gun he was spraying with. I have had my own personal paint disasters over the years and after shooting hundreds of them I try and use what I am sure will work out. Even then, even when I am sure the shoot went about perfect, I still have a bit of anxiety until that paint cures and looks great like it should.

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you for chiming in. That sucks about the KZbin still driving the car and never learned anything 🥹

[@bradleyyounger8499]

One place I worked back in the day used ppg.. another used dupont.. my favorite was the ppg.. it just laid down nice and covered beautiful. If I remember correctly Sherwin williams had a decent paint pretty cheap.. I remember the clear was hard as a rock to cut and buff

[@thetriggerman954]

Sherwin had good paint back in the day the solvent didn't match that great but the paint itself was great. And if I remember correctly the clear was hard as a rock like you said 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Lambsrestoration]

Both correct

[@Steven1Cicero]

And like you say, You are still paying regardless of how cheap the paint is, People don't think about the hours spent trying to achieve the same results after buying the cheapest product, In my opinion it's all about what value you put on your time.

[@thetriggerman954]

Facts ❤️

[@travis3437]

As soon as you said Nason I knew. Haha! I used that 20 years ago. Never covered. The clear is really bad too. Omni is still around. That's what I spray still, Omni Plus version is what I use. That covers really well.

[@thetriggerman954]

Yea man 20 years ago that's when I sprayed it good see someone else experienced the same exact thing and at the same exact time frame 🥹

[@bosshawg7427]

I wouldn't go that far on Nason clear. 498 is pretty good stuff for a beginner. You can hammer it on (less worry about gun setup) and it doesn't run so easily.

[@georgeg8130]

I'm using Prime paint for couple years. You can try. It's 99% like Matrix but way less expensive.

[@icetech6]

I recently bought some cheap single stage and man it laid down like shit.... hard part was finding a paint to match what i was doing but in the end it wasn't worth it..

[@thetriggerman954]

🥹 see that's what I'm saying here. Sucks man 😔

[@davidduran5745]

Killing it as always Trigg! It’s such a blessing to spray the same products every day, takes the guessing out of it. BUT being able to make any product work and get great results is what a great painter does 👌

[@thetriggerman954]

Yes sir, nothing like a curveball coming at you and you still knock it out of the park. It keeps my skills sharp. Thank you for watching David 💪🏻♥️

[@TheHumblePaintSprayer333]

Great video and great advice man, in the middle is good don't have to be most expensive or same manufacture ,I've never once in 33 years seen a paint warranty claim, most of the time if something happens it just gets reworked , no time for the paint rep to come have a look and then say its not covered Great job mate its hard work when the products your using are not good, but an experienced man like you can make any paint look good 👍👍👍 Have a blessed one 🙏

[@thetriggerman954]

Right on my man. I've only seen warranty jobs from a bad batch of clear, and was from spies clear in 2007 we had about 10 jobs that they warrantied and had to repaint. But that was a bad batch of clear was sent out. Only time I've ever seen it. And you're right we can make anything look good even if it's kicking our asses 😭😁

[@georgepetrillo7316]

A couple people here stated about using Omni. I've been using Omni for a couple years. It's not bad. Overall I've been successful with it. Currently, doing paintwork on a 97 Buick that is Jasper Green. Recently when I bought some Omni in the Jasper Green my paint supply person stated that the Jasper Green Omni may come out cloudy. He mentioned that some colors do it. He stated that the same color in the Omni Plus would not have the cloudiness. He mentioned that after the base is laid down , let it sit , then do a wipe test with the pre cleano. If there is cloudiness then you need to use the Omni Plus. I took a chance and when I did lay the base down I did the wipe test and there was no cloudiness. Laid the clear down and there was no cloudiness. The base and clear topcoat came out pretty good. So this color doesn't get cloudy. Trigger Man, what would be a better paint to move up to?

[@thetriggerman954]

@@georgepetrillo7316 I would say chromabase would be a nice step up. And doesn't seem to be to expensive. I think it sprays awesome.

[@HOTRODRICO]

got a 2001 GS love to see work on GS's... good stuff bruh I'm in the 305 n might need some spots touched up clear coat wise.. maybe we can collab... peace

[@thetriggerman954]

Ok bet! I'm in pompano Beach not far. Yeah them G's still go hard 🫡

[@clevewilks4312]

Once again Laying it down! Thanks brother. I be looking forward to your videos. Love the experience and knowledge you give us all. Keep them coming!!!!

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you sir, I associate your continued support ♥️🤗

[@johngraves1216]

trigger my dad was a mechanic. he always told me you never buy the cheap parts or you will have to fix it a lot. buy good parts and fix it once. it seems paint is much the same

[@thetriggerman954]

Yep same concept

[@beachcitymobile]

Trigger you hit the nail on the head. Trying to achieve "Pro" results with "baseline" or "economy" products almost always ends in lower quality results. (Doesn't just apply to paint either) "Mid grade" really is the right way to achieve a QUALITY "economy" job.

[@thetriggerman954]

bEacHcItY in the MF house 😎 whaaaat up man. Yes low quality results as well as 2x the work 🫠

[@lawncuttingplusdelta]

My buddy and I used omni clear on a rat rod …. He was suprised how good it worked .. we cleared straight onto the roof which was bare metal …. Car was outside in delta bc Canada 🇨🇦 for two years … never flaked or anything …

[@thetriggerman954]

You my friend performed a miracle 😮🙏🏼🙌🏼

[@coopshine8749]

I'm new to the paint game can you point me in the direction on gun ...you the tru bru💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@thetriggerman954]

For the price and quality of the gun the ANI black would be a great buy in my opinion. I painted a black GMC pick-up truck with that gun last month the video is up. Here is a link cheapest I've seen it and legit company. www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/product/ani-skull-spray-gun-digital-nondigital/

[@HotrodHR57]

New painter + silver metallic + cheap paint = disaster!

[@thetriggerman954]

1000%

[@WilfredGreen-ov8bh]

beeeen there too😂😂

[@bosshawg7427]

I use Nason Ful-Base most often, and yea, it's not as good as, say, Chromabase. I do find it seems to lay better with Nason 441-22 and an LPH400 1.4 close to suggested inlet psi (16). Oddly, the jobber states it can still be mixed 1:1 vs. the TDS 2:1. I do 2:1 on the first coat, then 1:1 second coat, or drop coat mixed with extra binder to even out metallics. Surprisingly, I can get away with about a little over 2 quarts of raw base for coverage on a full respray, but that's just what works for me. Definitely not recommended for the beginner. I hear the XL line is much better but costs much more. Maybe I'll try it on my bike. You're spot on... another great video, bruh! 🫵🏿

[@thetriggerman954]

Hmm maybe I'll tell my boss to order the XL next time. I've heard someone else say that it's better. This ful-base silver was a paint in the dick. I stayed cool for the video but I was cursing in my mask 🤣🤣🤣 thanks BossHawg 💪🏼

[@russlardinois5751]

I use xl primers and there much better than nason or omni. Omni still sucks. The only omni primer I use is the epoxy primer.

[@russlardinois5751]

Because it's just the ground coat. Everything else is exell.

[@mikes3925]

I sell the Axalta products and the Nason Ful Base is one of the cheaper paints they have. Chromax is the best, but a good happy medium is the Nason XL. It’s a higher solids 2:1 mix paint and covers great and has a broad color range. I have customers that like it as well as the old Chromabase. Price is just a touch more than Ful Base ($20-30 more in most case) and is way better.

[@douglasbird5246]

NASON CAN BE MIXED 1 TO 1 AND IT will lay down pretty smooth. might take and extra cote though...

[@thetriggerman954]

Ohhh my man has the secret formula 🤔🤓

[@jessekampegaard8491]

​@@thetriggerman954then you'll only need 8 coats to cover lmao

[@thetriggerman954]

@@jessekampegaard8491 🥺 all day in the hot ass booth 🥵

[@jessekampegaard8491]

@@thetriggerman954 I bet lol. Much cooler way up here in Maine. Stay hydrated bubba

[@andrewschmitt9485]

One of the best Nason paint jobs I've seen brother. Me personally, I don't like Nason.

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you Andrew, and I'm with you there man. I'm gonna try the Nason XL next time.

[@ToysForTheGods]

If you are playing with cheaper metallic from say an online company that will remain unnamed, my best suggestion is use slow reducer so that your metallics have a chance to settle better. I am spraying my metallics out of the divelbiss pro lite with the 1.3 tip around 18.5psi and on my less expensive side jobs, not my shop jobs as we use Pro Spray, but my side jobs, I have great luck. But it is always much nice to use quality paints. They keep getting more expensive every year.

[@thetriggerman954]

Facts

[@AlazarAnbesaw]

What's a decent site and brand for the beginner? What I consider to be middle is what the pros consider to be cheap. I'm not trying to win no car shows but have a decent paint. Feedback is much appreciated! 🙏🏻

[@ToysForTheGods]

@@AlazarAnbesaw I personally like to use TCP Global for my cheaper products. You should be able to find anything you are looking for on there. They do sell higher end products as well, but they have a great selection of low cost products that compete with the prices of tractor paint in some cases.

[@keith3609]

Silver turned out nice!

[@thetriggerman954]

🫡

[@dardenvern]

Omni gave you issues? 1:1 mix I thought so you can cut it 2:1 ? I use shops that mix their own stuff and saved with great results 1:1 mix. Now I’m in Texas and trying out some small shops to see who is better suited for my jobs

[@thetriggerman954]

Yea Omni wasn't that great back in 2001 -2003 Not necessarily issues with it but it was just cheap watered down, transparent. Still made it look good but like I said in the video I basically work myself twice as hard using that paint.

[@srodgie]

Hey Trigger, really good video this Brother! 🙏 You have given alot of very valuable information here! You are the man! Have a blessed day! Steve 😎🤙

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank You Steve hopefully it helps some guys and save them the headache 😢😂💪🏼

[@rongamble9884]

There have been some cheaper base coats that have really let me down and some that haven't on my metallic and effect colors I typically use better quality now

[@thetriggerman954]

@@rongamble9884 yep it happens. You work your ass off for nothing 🥹

[@rongamble9884]

@@thetriggerman954 I just used some Sherwin Williams FC740 which typically I don't use and that stuff shrunk up on me really bad no more on that one

[@thetriggerman954]

@@rongamble9884 yeah that's the cheapo stuff lol

[@stackindimesracecars3924]

When I used to mix OMNI and PPG at oreillys the rep told us it was basically the same thing but when mixing omni it always has a ton less pigment and a whole bunch of colorless binder added. Guys that knew this at was not color matching would buy straight pigment. Especially if it was black because if not it would come out brown.

[@thetriggerman954]

Man 🥹 it's confirmed 💩💩

[@mkearn724]

I sprayed some silver metallic (Chrysler color) on an overall paint job for my C/k 1500 about 15 years ago and it was a gotdamn nightmare. The metallic wouldn’t lay for shit and it took forever to get the stripes out. I ended up doing drop coats in both directions and stayed back damn near 12”. It took like 6 coats to cover good.

[@thetriggerman954]

@@mkearn724 it happens to the best of us. I had one last year kicked my ass. Had to stop the cameras and cursed and threw shit around the booth 🤣🤣🤣

[@kr2513]

I worked at a shitshow industrial painting facility (it was a front looking back) Where I watched a group of 4 guys dump 15+ coats of yellow on an already yellow massive crane. They kept seeing black underneath for no reason 😭. It was metacryl brand I think. I definitely appreciate all the work that comes my way because I hear things are going to slow down real bad soon. Hang on bro and stay up 🔝.

[@thetriggerman954]

That's why I love about being on a salary. Whether it's slow or busy my pay doesn't change. I survived the dog fight. There has been many weeks that I don't even pull out my spray gun and still get the same pay. Plus my boss buys lunch everyday. Life is good and I am so appreciative of it. ♥️🤗

[@kr2513]

@@thetriggerman954they want me to do used cars on salary. The first 30 hours will be $300 🤨. Then the hours past the first 30 will be my rate of $21. Not sure what to think but I’ll give it a try.

[@thetriggerman954]

@@kr2513 🥹 damn sounds like some fuckery that only will benefit from. So your first 30 hours will be basically $10 per hour so if you have a 60 hour week means you basically made $15 per hour 🫠

[@Westfresno93706]

Gotta love those older lex gs and ls 💯💯💯🏆☝️

[@thetriggerman954]

I'm noticing a lot of guys out there like these cars. Lex gang in the house 🫡🫵🏼

[@Westfresno93706]

@@thetriggerman954 hell yeah they last forever bro bulletproof engines 😎💯

[@cliffjohnson5687]

I have been using a lot of omni plus base coat it's actually real good base coat

[@thetriggerman954]

😳😲

[@cliffjohnson5687]

@@thetriggerman954 sir you are the best I've been painting for 40-something years I'm 68 year old and still painting not professionally anymore never ceases to amaze me that I learned something from you everyday

[@AlazarAnbesaw]

What's a decent site and brand for the beginner? What I consider to be middle is what the pros consider to be cheap. I'm not trying to win no car shows but have a decent paint. Feedback is much appreciated! 🙏🏻

[@thetriggerman954]

Sorry man I have no idea about websites to purchase paint from. I just hear a lot of guys in the comment say that they purchase it online but I personally have never bought paint online I've always gone into a auto body supply store. I'm sure there are some good ones out there but unfortunately I have no knowledge on that sorry I couldn't be more help. Anyone else is reading this and you know of good websites for this gentleman to purchase paint please comment with a few sites that could help him out Thank you in advance guys Trigger❤️

[@movaughn20]

For real, cheap materials are a headache. Just unwrapped two cars I used some cheap tape on. So much residue!

[@thetriggerman954]

🥹

[@slackerzsincity8822]

I remember my first paint job with omni paint red bruh the coverage sucks some spots was pink striping, just headaches after. Trigga brought the big toys today that Sata jet about to take off

[@thetriggerman954]

😂 yeah man that Omni was a MF I was young and didn't know any better. I lost so many appetites over gut-wrenching paint jobs spraying that stuff 😭

[@mississippiwrenches295]

Love this video and yes unfortunately they still have Omni they clear coat ain’t worth a flip either

[@thetriggerman954]

Thanks Big Homie, that's what I keep hearing. Damn they've had 20 years to get it right. And it's still 💩 😂

[@mississippiwrenches295]

@@thetriggerman954 exactly 😂 didn’t know they was out that long

[@wrightsrrt871]

Nason base coat is good for an cheaper paint but im getting away from it lately to ppg products!

[@thetriggerman954]

#facts ✊🏼

[@mcats8]

Challenger is an Axalta product. A step up from Nason but not Cromax quality. Sprays nice and wallet friendly

[@67polara]

I used Norton Adhesion Promoter and it seemed ok. Don't have any experience to compare it to but the paint is still on the bumper 4 years now.

[@67polara]

Omni may still be around but it's Shopline & Shopline-Plus now. No idea how good they are.

[@thetriggerman954]

Yeah a few people told me it's shopline now but they all said it sucks. It that was Omni I sure do believe it.

[@davidharrison8397]

Nice job trigger man.....just one of the guns you're using is worth more than that car 😁

[@thetriggerman954]

Lol thanks man watch it now some people love these old Lexus cars 😂

[@justice5699]

Hey Trigger, what up man? I've sprayed Nason for over 18 yrs. It used to be an ok brand back in the day but I noticed that in the last 6, 7 years it's freakin reduced man!! hahaha, no reducers needed (just kidding.) The place where I get my base that's basically there main seller especially now being so expensive. But about 3 years ago the sales guy got me into the new Nason XL, big difference as far as coverage goes. Way better than regular Nason for sure. Once in a while I would get a high end job where budget was no problem with the materials so I would go with Dupont which if I'm not mistaken it was bought by Axalta, not sure tho. Why I use Nason as much, I live in a small town where people just want there rides looking good not savagly good. So I have to work with the community as well. Got to go back to the lab man, thanks for the great video bro.

[@thetriggerman954]

I'm gonna have to check with our supplier and see if they have the Nason XL so when the owner decides to go cheap again I'll tell him to order the XL thanks man and yes the base does already seem like it's reduced lol thought it was just me 🤣

[@GregoryGreenSr.-vs4ot]

That's my car I have always wanted ❤and thanks for the info brah! ❤💪💪

[@thetriggerman954]

Happy to help!💪🏻♥️

[@jeremyr7147]

I never got why you dont pull tape & paper before showing the finished product. Especially partial paint for color matches... Man I've been killing it in the paint biz. Im spraying whole 2 story houses, typically 2 to 3 different colors. I spray it like a car - like you. Shit is fn amazing like 'glass'. My skills are untouchable by other house painters.. ive been working off a lift that goes to 40 feet all week.. Remember you inspired me to get back into the paint biz & im banking stacks of paper. I also do drywall work & shit is phenomenal.

[@thetriggerman954]

That's good man sounds like life is good for you right now. Awesome. Enjoy the ride my man. I know exactly how you feel 💪🏻♥️

[@JohnWD40TC02]

Hey Mr Trigger, some very good info there mate as there is no one right way to lay your paint what works for one person doesn't always work for someone else, when I was looking for a good paint scheme I bought small 1.5L kits of clearcoat and a 1L ready mixed tin of basecoat just to see what it was like before getting larger quantities🤔as I mentioned to you before it's not really possible for me to go to a supplier and ask him for help then buy what I need. I ended up going with the Kapci products which are a middle of the road when it comes to price but the quality is there IMO👌 really nice finish on the Lexus Trigg but like you silver isn't my sort of colour even though my SLK is silver🤢🤮 Thanks brother and have a good weekend👏🙏👍John UK

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you for chiming in John. Appreciate you as always my man. That sucks you can't go into a supply store 😭

[@tedc9306]

I always had a question about that using the adhesion promoter over primer. Shouldn't it make more sense to put it on the plastic directly, I guess my question is if there's primer. I guess my question is wouldn't adhesion, promoter on top of primer be a waste?

[@thetriggerman954]

Not necessarily a waste. In this case I was using a product that is adhesion promoter and a gray sealer. So it's a two in one product. Adhesion promoter is not just for plastic it makes paint stick period. Whether it be plastic, Chrome, glass, fiberglass etc.

[@tedc9306]

OK I understand I thought you're putting. I thought you were gonna put bulldog. Adhesion promoter over the gray primed plastic piece I get it

[@Pallidus_Rider]

I see GS300 in thumbnail and have to watch One day I would like to repaint my silver 2000 Platinum Edition Lexus GS300 with silver metal flake 👍😎🤙

[@thetriggerman954]

Ohh you trying to sparkle and glisson with the Lexus bubble. Extra silver flakes would have that thing dancing in the sun 🌞

[@monkeyb7144]

love your videos always a good time and very helpful. I always have trouble with silver when using cheaper paints you did a great job looks smooth

[@thetriggerman954]

Thanks man Glad you are enjoying the videos. Yeah I figured this is something that all of the DIY guys will experience at some point. Hell even professional gas can go through this. Thank you for watching Have a blessed weekend

[@nickcrill7718]

Great advice! Stuff I haven’t thought about. Silver is more rewarding than white I feel. I’m not a fan of white but I spray a lot of it.

[@thetriggerman954]

Right on 💪🏻 things you should definitely be thinking about

[@kennymcquinkiss8292]

Wow I was just about ready to ask you about Rust-Oleum clear over lacquer. Oops nevermind

[@thetriggerman954]

😠😤🤬

[@michaelrapozo4230]

How do you double coat so fast without getting those wierd reactions ?where it wants to wrinkle sometimes

[@thetriggerman954]

Experience my man. Once you have a solid substrate there is not much chance for a reaction. A good substrate and a clean surface you can pretty much do anything you want 😎🫡

[@davutyalcin-]

Nice video,great results on that el cheapo triggerman 👌🏻👌🏻

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you sir. Greatly appreciate you watching 💪🏻♥️

[@dodgeman19941978]

Pro spray was my go to for work at home for the longest until the price went up. My local jobber was over $75 a quart over dbc Are you using the amtec 4400? I’ve been using the greentec 211 After about 7 setups the last 2 have changed and I’m not really satisfied with it anymore. Ive got the 1.2xl setup for the Sagola on the way!

[@thetriggerman954]

@@dodgeman19941978 oh you did get the 1.2xl. awesome. And yes I use the 4400 98.9% of the time. Tried the greentech didn't really care for it.

[@804MRMAN]

Good job. But yeah the Apline Silver doesn't hit like Millennium Metallic Silver ( paint code 1CO ) which has a bronze tint to it in the sunlight on 2000-2005 model GS300

[@thetriggerman954]

@@804MRMAN yeah you right that does have better flakes

[@804MRMAN]

@@thetriggerman954 Yup

[@tedc9306]

Omni and omni plus.

[@Mr.Bell229]

Great video Triggerman. Have you sprayed Wanda Basecoat by Akzo Nobel? It's lower end product that covers decent. It's better than omni.

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you Sir, actually no I've never heard of that brand 🤔

[@Mr.Bell229]

@thetriggerman954 It's apart of the Sikkens/Lesonal lineup.

[@cristianb.4135]

​​@@Mr.Bell229here in Italy i sprayed TuxedoBlack Sikkens autobase plus and it lays smooth and dry very fast and most of all, no problems with some sort of dieback and loss of gloss.... Akzo Nobel is a great choice.

[@Mr.Bell229]

@cristianb.4135 When I first started painting in the late 90's. It was PPG and Dupont. Over the years of working different jobs I fell in love with Euro products. Some costs more, but the end results are worth it.

[@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote]

Absolutely its more work. Like i get that when your buying OEM paint for something like a GM factory white pearl tri coat that the paint mixed at your local supplier is $175 for a quart of white base and $275 for a quart of the pearl mid-coat but its a lot better match and better quality with much better coverage than the cheap stuff you see on ebay that cost $120 total for both a quart of base and quart of mid coat. Made those mistakes a long long time ago being cheap when i first started and it cost me more in the long run having to do it all over again with the quality stuff. Ends up costing you the sanding disc, sand paper, plastic and tape and everything all over again as well as primer again and clear. I like Akzonobile wanda paint and Akzonobile sikkens now days.

[@thetriggerman954]

Yea man have to find something in the middle that doesn't break the bank but something that also doesn't come back in a few months 😭

[@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote]

That's exactly what I have found in Wanda paint by Akzonobile. Its priced good and is great. It is 2:1 though for the most part which I would prefer 1:1.5 or 1:1 but its pretty good. Ofcourse Sikkens by Akzonobile is great but expensive. Glasurit is great but expensive. Ive used PPG Omni line and didnt like it, PPG Shopline and its "meh".

[@jessekampegaard8491]

I remember omni boy o boy. Low end ppg. Nason low end Dupont. I never liked omni and honestly dont care for nason much more than omni. Chroma base is good stuff. Southern polyurethane makes a very good HS clear. Owner used to be one the big guys at PPG. Great quality and if you have questions always there to answer you.

[@thetriggerman954]

Good to know 🫡 thank you Jesse

[@jessekampegaard8491]

@@thetriggerman954 your welcome.. I do more classic car stuff. Overall. But more and more I'm asked about these newer cars. That's why these blend videos are great for me. I do learn alot from your channel. I stepped out for few years from painting been raising my son myself since he was 4. Had a mess for a bit lost a son to sidds had second son and lost his mom when he was 4 to pills. And it's been him and I ever since. So any way now he is 20 great kid and I'm getting started again. In fact I'm building new booth in my barn now. Son and I putting up new garage. And after finding you and few others on here really has me excited about this adventure. That Southern Polyurethane also makes one the very best epoxy primer out there. Last down smooth as butter sands easy as all get out dont clog paper and sticks like glue to damn near anything.i use it as a foundation. I'll use Black then top with a 2k build primer in gray. So when I block untill gray is damn near all gone I know she is dead flat. Saves all this guide coat shit they sell. I'm sure I will many other questions from time to time for you and cant thank you enough taking the time to reply. Means a bunch bubba.

[@billbeckett1021]

I am not a fan of 2:1 base coats. The 2:1 clear coat however are my favorite things to spray.

[@thetriggerman954]

2:1 clear is the 💣💣💣💣

[@chriswalton9567]

Nice work TriggerMan!

[@thetriggerman954]

😎💪🏻 thank you Chris

[@OldBondoBilly]

Nason basecoat used to be 2:1. Did you mix it 1:1?

[@thetriggerman954]

I mixed it 2:1 that shit was already piss thin. 1:1 I would have been So pissed off that would be steam blowing out of my ears 😤😤😤

[@EJ1James]

Damn trigga everything was sweet at my job till this heat came now im sweating bullets in that paint coat and mask 🥵 but interesting info about ppg omni brand i was looking at it for a while but i think i just make my customers pay for pro spray base but like you said you be trying to save as much money as possible but in the long run always more work. But still struggling spraying glass off the gun

[@thetriggerman954]

You will get there James You still early in the game Just keep tweaking settings and materials and before you know it pow Glass on that ass

[@EJ1James]

@@thetriggerman954 I’m trying my best like you said just keep playing with material and tweaking I’m trying to be like you one day boss!!! 💪🏾

[@thetriggerman954]

@@EJ1James you know I'm close by if you even need some help. Just hit me up

[@greenappledetailgreenapple4077]

Good advice!

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you sir 🤙🏼💪🏼

[@joshuashattuck9267]

Mipa solvent is very inexpensive and is actually really nice. Clear lays down like glass the primer is awesome. Only downfall i found with it is clear dries really hard so takes little more work if you sand and polish

[@thetriggerman954]

We used to use some mipa product when I first got to this shop but slowly faded away from it, been so long I can't even remember how it was 🤣

[@eastcoastken]

We use Mipa at work, it's not bad but I only have PPG Shopline & Omni to compare it to.

[@lodollar23]

I thought nason was back door PPG? I normally use a dirt cheap paint with a premium clear HS roberlo. Honestly I can't afford all the high end stuff. Just the cheap supplies, premium primer, good sealer, dirt cheap base, mid coat, premium clear. Shoot I'm already in 1800$ and im doing it myself. Box of sand paper is a 20$ these days lol. Hell I aint even thought about my color sand supplies yet. One thing you said about that cheap base tho. BETTER spray that masking down. Ask me how I know too😂😂😂. But yeah I need to upgrade to a decent Base and mid and quit being cheap.

[@thetriggerman954]

@@lodollar23 no sir nason is the backdoor of DuPont. and OMNI is the backdoor of PPG. Yea man I know you're saving a few bucks but once you use quality base you'll realize 2 things. You'll realize how much easier the job will be and 2nd you'll realize how much better of a painter you really are. Quality base just goes down so much better with less effort.

[@bernienovak936]

PPG omni actually turned me off PPG products for a long time....we used it in a shop about 20yrs ago for used dealer car's stuff was toilet water lol

[@thetriggerman954]

@@bernienovak936 yeah I felt the same way, my job used PPG and at my warehouse side gig we used Omni it was horrible, but I knew PPG was good, and I had all of the certifications but that Omni was the worst. Until this very day it was still the worst paint I've ever sprayed.

[@dardenvern]

Triggerman, can you do a video specifically on quoting paint jobs? I’ve undercut myself so many times not understanding what a proper quote to give people for overalls with or without door jams. Panels etc. this would help us side job guys a lot! Thanks for the channel and your other channel “paints by trigger”

[@thetriggerman954]

I'll try to get something like that in the lineup, I already have about nine videos lined up so it'll be a while. Why don't you invest in a estimating software? That's the easiest method a calculates everything for you jams, pearls, When I was doing my own side work I basically priced everything higher and that will cover anything that went wrong and if nothing went wrong it would just be a good payday. But I'll see what I can do

[@MAn-ti3ul]

I quote $300 per panel and that's no bodywork or R&I , just prep and spray (base/clear)

[@thetriggerman954]

@@MAn-ti3ul that sounds good. That's actually what I use to charge waayyy back in the day. Now I'd probably aim for $500 per panel. Things are more expensive now days and this was 15+ years ago

[@MAn-ti3ul]

​@@thetriggerman954I wish I could get $500 per panel. Insurance doesn't even pay that much!

[@thetriggerman954]

@@MAn-ti3ul oh your taking about insurance. Well in that case it doesn't matter what you charge ins will pay what they pay regardless. I use to do work for rental car companies. Now they are the cheapest of all

[@toycoma98]

Have you heard of Karocle? I think its Korean. The base is 2 to 1 and its thick AF.

[@thetriggerman954]

No I can't say I've heard of that. Man I'm hearing about all kinds of paint I've never heard of from you guys. Sounds like there are a ton of options our there.

[@AZGoodTimes]

. Subscribed today. I'm a hobbyist and Thanks for the Info.

[@thetriggerman954]

Welcome to the channel my man. Thank you. And you're more than welcome ✊🏼

[@AZGoodTimes]

@@thetriggerman954 Appreciate new incite. My shop is next door to a custom spray shop that does $20K + paint jobs. I get lots of neighbor advise but I cant afford the paint they use. Would love to know of a good paint around $800 complete kit for a small car? (if it even exists) lol

[@thetriggerman954]

@@AZGoodTimes complete kit for $800? 🫠

[@AZGoodTimes]

@@thetriggerman954 Ah ha, if you have the answer it might make a good video. Ive been looking at HOK and supplies needed for my car is looking around the $1500 mark. just wondering if going below that is even worth it? the $800 range was just a number. don't know if i can save any more?

[@thetriggerman954]

@@AZGoodTimes right around $1,000 should be decent. For Base and clear. Not including sealer/ primer or anything like that.

[@PerformanceRacingGroupGarage]

The nason XL is pretty good and the clear

[@thetriggerman954]

Yeah people keep saying that in the comments, I'm gonna see if our supplier has that on the next one thank you

[@shawn6684]

What are some paint brands that are reasonably priced that are easy to get if not close to paint shop ? I've had this problem with a brand paint sprays good on small parts but when you do a large panel it looks terrible I did buy a effect stabilizer for it which I haven't tried yet lol I've been only doing this for about 2 years . I've sprayed cheaper paint of a different brand (solid color ) and hade have great results lol it's really crazy to me how this stuff works and doesn't lol thanks for videos and help sir 💪

[@shawn6684]

Also by budy just painted an Montecarlo with single stage omni black and I was jealous how good he put it down and how it looked in the sun it looked like black glass I was like wtf lol plus his garage was way more dirty than mine lol

[@thetriggerman954]

I'm not to familiar with ordering paints online or anything. Not sure what's your there to order. But I really like the Cromabase it's very affordable and sprays great. If you could locate a paint shop that ships it would be ideal for your situation.

[@jameskerry5581]

Tthanks TM for another great video upload..... buy cheap buy twicee! often most cost effective to spend a bit more :)

[@thetriggerman954]

You're welcome James. That's right man. Spend a few bucks more make life easier. Thank you for watching brother 💪🏻😎

[@jeantaylor6785]

I use house of color I love it

[@Erik7prc]

What up man! 1st! Lol. What do think about the hv30 aircap on the prolite for metallic? I thought i heard Trey talking it up a couple times. I heard thos dv1 are great for metallic

[@thetriggerman954]

1st? Man you like 30th You need to schedule your refresh timer to refresh more often 😂😂 I actually have never used that cap I have the TE20 and the t110 I usually just use my TE20 for metallics. The DV1 is awesome It's definitely superior over the Pro-Lite.

[@Erik7prc]

@@thetriggerman954 🤠...I used the dv1 at a company I work for but for gloss white corrosion resistant topcoat! Now Imma be forced to buy another spraygun since you said it's superior to the tekna I got a couple months ago 😄🏌‍♂️

[@atemegabites2251]

How much did shop charge for a job like this ?

[@thetriggerman954]

Not sure exactly but I wanna say somewhere around $3500-$4,000

[@joshdane5657]

Mane. I got more money than that in supplies and paint just to paint my old beater. Lol. I wish I was closer. TN is a lil bit far away. I just need it sprayed but I'm gonna give it a shot! 🔫

[@thetriggerman954]

@@joshdane5657 damn 🥹 well if you do the job it'll just mean that much more 😬🫣🤪

[@joshdane5657]

@@thetriggerman954 exactly 💯 I ain't ever spraying Rust-Oleum again. I've been there done that before. Lol. I built the car or pieced it together so it will mean a lot to me if my paint job comes out decent. Thanks for the encouragement mane. Spray on brotha! spray on!

[@dennisgray7509]

Hey man like your work. I’ve sprayed a few cars with nason single stage and did ok. I want to do base coat clear coat what paint do you recommend I try? Thanks man

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you Denis. Any paint line is fine just go for the higher tier one. Or even the middle of the road. Hell even matrix is pretty cheap but it lays down nice. And that's the base coat I'm referring to.

[@dennisgray7509]

@@thetriggerman954 thank you I’ll give it a try

[@los3627]

👏👏👏 Great job my brother, you make worked your magic ✨ again!! 😎👍

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you Los 💪🏻♥️

[@los3627]

Hey brother, what is your co$t to repaint a ?

[@thetriggerman954]

@@los3627 the owner charges around $3500-$4000 for a basic paint job. And can go up depending if more bodywork or if customer wants expensive paint.

[@los3627]

@@thetriggerman954 🙏 Thank you brother.

[@smoggy1964]

Nice job Dude

[@thetriggerman954]

Thanks my man 💪🏼

[@darrinstone49]

I notice you don't use a glue coat.... prior to laying down the clear?? Does that cause alot of peel?

[@thetriggerman954]

What's a glue coat?

[@lildno2007]

Funny all I been spraying is Nason and I thought it was nice because it is medium priced. That ChromaBase is expensive as hell 🥶🥶

[@thetriggerman954]

It's ok if that's all you've been spraying, so you wouldn't really know the difference, now of you ever bumped up to the next level of paint you would notice how much easier it is to spray as well as better color match, more vibrant looking colors.

[@davidray4655]

Great video, Trigger, but I noticed you painted over the headlights marked clear😂

[@thetriggerman954]

Yea I know man 🫠 luckily I remembered 🤣 things don't always go as planned lol

[@davidray4655]

@@thetriggerman954 I know that's right

[@diggy561]

I love them Lex's

[@thetriggerman954]

Bubble 👁️👁️

[@prezidentjeff]

TriggerMan back in the lab 🔥🔥

[@thetriggerman954]

Yes sir 🥼🥽🧪🔬

[@ANDY-we7mr]

El cheapo is always looking for a bargain triggerman good video by the way just got my self iwata series 2 digital

[@thetriggerman954]

How you liking it?

[@ANDY-we7mr]

​​@@thetriggerman954 haven't used it yet I love sogala and satajet and devibliss did you see the fight last night its the WS400 1.3 OBS BLUE CAP 1.3

[@berkankaya9370]

Hey Triggerman. Any paint stores you can recommend near Fort Lauderdale? Appreciate the video. I’ll be painting a silver BMW soon.

[@thetriggerman954]

Not really man. There are probably 50 of them around. Google is your friend. Premier,Terrys,finish master,marks auto paint, color tech, just a few off my head

[@berkankaya9370]

@@thetriggerman954 appreciate it, boss!

[@haule8418]

when spraying base how close are you typically away from the panel? especially with el cheapo paint do you think you should move in closer?

[@thetriggerman954]

@@haule8418 I'm usually about 6-8 inches off the panel. And no I just get in the habit of spraying at one distance. To much to think about. Everything you try to program your self to do it the same way on every job. "when possible" 🫡

[@diytypeofguy6502]

Trigger man I'm about to get back into spraying after like 10 years and I used to do exactly wut u talked about in this video 😂😂using the cheapest paint / tape/ newspaper for masking 😂 and then I would be super frustrated when I couldn't get a decent outcome plus my spraying environment was terrible... this time around I will be trying better quality paints etc wuts some middle quality paint brands? I was gonna go with nason or Omni u said those were cheap / problematic wut about finish line? Or should I just take the hit & go with ppg ??

[@thetriggerman954]

@@diytypeofguy6502 welcome back man 🫡 check it this video 👇🏼 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoWth2WObreGmMUsi=7BiMQHMvuFaW3AA_ I used Cromabase on the car it was like $140 for a half a gallon and sprayed very nice. And looked great. I think it's an excellent option.

[@diytypeofguy6502]

@@thetriggerman954 cromabase is DuPont right?

[@stephenjones4013]

trigger thank you for this I own a GS300 and once i am done customers stuff my car goes in booth

[@thetriggerman954]

Ohhhh shit now. Almost show time. What color you going?

[@stephenjones4013]

@@thetriggerman954 trigger I custom paint so Louie bag print

[@thetriggerman954]

@@stephenjones4013 😲

[@rzjk301]

Damn looks good!

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you sir 🫡

[@Choober65]

There's an old saying my Grandfather used to say "Buy cheap, buy twice", and THAT is why I will ALWAYS buy the absolute best I can afford.

[@thetriggerman954]

#facts. Grandfather told no lies 🙌🏼

[@johnpoccia4981]

Would that be matrix paint ,that didn't want to name🤣🤣 Omni hs or the normal omni clear is pretty good Great video triggerman

[@thetriggerman954]

Thank you John 😎 much appreciated my man

[@jeremiahtinsley8048]

Hey trigger how you think that am tech clear work for the summer I'm in southwest ga

[@thetriggerman954]

I use it year round, for 11 years now no issues yet. And it's hot as a MF here 🫠

[@TheLoca99]

Yo trigger you kill me with the El Cheeto lol 😂

[@TheLoca99]

Cheap o

[@thetriggerman954]

😅😎💪🏼

[@SegaGenesis501]

Triggerman where can I find that twist-on attachment and cup for the gun or is that exclusive for a certain brand?

[@thetriggerman954]

amzn.to/3wREGGv then google the gun you have and type Dekups adapter behind it when you google it and it'll give you the adapter # for that particular gun .

[@SegaGenesis501]

@@thetriggerman954 Thanks brother (in my Trigger Troll voice) lol

[@thetriggerman954]

@@SegaGenesis501 😁😁😁♥️

[@3rekoatskustoms929]

You are not wrong about cheap paints

[@thetriggerman954]

🫠🥹

[@tonydiesel3444]

You got that right buddy everybody wants to use the cheapest stuff it cost more to use the cheapest stuff when it peels off in 4 years Omi paint is trash

[@thetriggerman954]

😭

[@DangrsDave]

My experience, Nason base coat sucks. Nason single stage is not too bad though.

[@thetriggerman954]

@@DangrsDave sounds about right. They will do if it's an inexpensive job