How to get LEGENDARY EVERYTHING - Factorio Space Age

[@Gorg465]

Another trick is to make legendary concrete in a foundry and then recycle it, in that way you have a chance to get legendary iron ore which you can smelt and get even more iron if that from the spaceship is not enough

[@NiamhNikali]

nice one

[@connorjonson4531]

Another solution is to make more identical ships

[@lizzycoax]

can you get more iron ore from oxide astroids compared to metallic astroids that way? i calculated it for normal prod 3s iirc (can't get more) but not sure about legendary prod 3s

[@fierylightning3422]

that's nice, however only problem: 3% chance of getting iron ore from recycling concrete. just make more ships.

[@Gorg465]

@fierylightning3422 what else are you going to use legendary calcium for?

[@pocketspider]

I've seen a few videos of this, and have already started on making my own LDS shuffle setup, but this has to be most concise and easy to understand video I've seen on it! Praise be to the LDS gods!

[@Matthew-jg1kh]

I've been waiting and searching for a video explanation of this. Great job and thank you so much.

[@jonobrien8848]

nilaus has a vid from a month or 2 ago, also called lds shuffle.

[@drillboyjenkins5740]

Hey, you missed one neat thing about asteroid processing. With asteroid productivity research you can also bring crushing recipes to x4 yields, and if Wube did not patch this since last time I checked, the 20%/5% asteroid "cashback" for basic and adv crushing are NOT excluded from prodbar yields. This means you can upscramble your asteroids in crushers with same 80% return rate, guaranteed to stay in desired type once you make it so (you are losing some legendary wrong-type asteroids), plus you get the sub-tier yields in the process that you can also re-scramble in place. This is not applicable to either calcite or coal. However, it covers the iron ore. You will get same 80% asteroid return on scramble cycles and the ore you get is just an extra. Is that manageable in terms of space platform logistics? Honestly, idk, the iron ore yield rates are insane even with the base recipe.

[@MrRipple123]

you can also do this sort of thing with electro plants once blue circuit productivity research can get you up to 300%. that can get you legendary iron plate, copper plate, plastic, 1 for 1, with only sulfuric acid input.

[@Nora-transspire]

I thought of this too, but don’t you need those legendary green and red circuits to craft the blue ones again? I feel like this is more like “storage”. You can craft and recycle them at will, but you can’t make a loop out of it, since u need two solid legendary ingredients. LDS is so useful cause u only need the plastic to make them. Giving you the ability to siphon off the steel and copper.

[@AbsoluteHuman]

​@@Nora-transspire No, you don't need any quality input whatsoever. Normal in, legendary out. Recycle down if you need the components. Arguably more efficient than asteroids. LDS shuffle gives you free steel and copper, sure, but this way you can get iron too.

[@Nora-transspire]

@ that makes sense! how did I not think of it? thank you! :)

[@arandomcube3540]

I am not sure to understand. To make this work, you start by making normal blue circuits, then recycle them with quality modules to make quality cicrcuits, and repeat for each quality ? And there is no losses because of the productivity in every plant ? (Just to make sure I get it right)

[@Nora-transspire]

@ I think so yes. Tinkered with it yesterday quite a bit. I wouldn't compare it to the lds loop, since there is no free stuff and it takes up way more space and doesn't come near the amazing output of the lds loop. I don't have the research to get 300% prod with only quality modules yet tho. The normal quality stage I just used beacons and prod modules for 300% and the recyclers and stages later use only quality. It's just like normal upcycling (in my case), but way more efficient due to prod research. So you feed it only a lil quantity of normal circuits (and acid)

[@wkeil1981]

This is the best legendary guide on KZbin period end of sentence.

[@BORN753]

This is funny, I thought of two methods to get legendary products, first is recycling the end products, and second is recycling the items needed to craft the end products, but for some reason I thought making quality starting products would be just too much of a mess, and didn't try to look for good recipes to do it. The first thing I thought you would do for stone is molten copper recipe, but that is so funny that it actually works and accepts quality calcite and gives a quality byproduct😆

[@Narigari]

I was going to stop playing Factorio to have a normal life, but now I need to try this!!!

[@lysergicheadcase]

There are much much longer videos that less adequately explain what you've done in like 10 minutes WOW thank you :)

[@RossGosling]

This has finally broken down upcycling for me, it felt like such an impenetrable topic, great video

[@lelhammasray220]

I was searching for legendary way to craft every thing. I spent hours on volcanus trying to get legendary iron and coper by recycling them. But this video got me thinking that this is the way to go. Thank you❤❤

[@sednark]

Love your videos! Your explanations are so clear and concise. Can’t wait to start trying this today 😍😍

[@gamingtank234]

Thanks fot putting this all in one 1 video as I have seen most of this just not all in one video so now when I get to this point I can rewatch this

[@Erichteia]

I prefer processing units for iron and circuits. They also have a lossless quality loop like LDS and create a nice amount of some of the most important ingredients for many builds. The calcite to stone is a great idea, as concrete looping is annoyingly slow

[@Affenlie]

A fantastic video, great explanation and well made

[@stuartt1025]

thank you for the video, awesome work ! and thank you especialy for the blueprint ! i had to redo everything bacause i dont have any legendary parts for the ship but thats nothin against when i had to figure out everything by myself have a nice day and stay healthy

[@odw32]

Nice! Very curious about best strategies for legendary modules, tungsten carbide & plates, carbon fiber, holmium, bioflux/spoilage, lithium and uranium.

[@BushidoKyn]

Thanks for the blueprints!!!

[@Longseax]

U can upcycle green and red circuits (which means iron, copper and plastic) with no losses using blue circuit recepe (also u only need less productivity research due to 5 module slots in elecroplant)

[@Longseax]

There is another pretty good way to get legendary iron - underground pipes in foundries. Its obviously worse then asteroids, but the its the best without space platforms

[@Erichteia]

It’s a great early game option. Once you have some nice prod bonuses, looping PU’s is really nice and quite overlooked

[@thethingofstuff]

I'd really like a video on how you make legendary modules of each type, especially quality modules! Thank you for the great guide :)

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

I will show the brute force method shortly don't worry

[@Recon777x]

Ahh, the Space Casino. Been wondering what one actually looks like. Great explanation!

[@fierylightning3422]

this is absolutely amazing, been having plastic bottleneck issues the entire game and now its solved! do you think you could give guides for legendary planet specific items like holmium plates and tungsten?

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

I definitely will be covering that soon

[@fierylightning3422]

@ thank you so much!

[@gasparliboreiro4572]

molten iron and copper into legendary steel and copper was just amazing, a really interesting way to think about for designs

[@legomaster39129]

this is the factorio content we needed

[@jeremylawrence6041]

I've had this setup going for a few weeks now. It's amazing. I don't even bother with tier 3 modules; I'm just using tier 2 legendary modules in everything. that extra resource for the T3 is too annoying to bother with.

[@WhaoIfeelgood]

Very nice explanation man, thanks !

[@morpheus_uat]

the endless legendary copper and steel its completly broken and unbalanced, you can use it even in mid game with epic quality, after you arrived at vulcanus and fulgora, not even gleba its totally broken, i fricking love it

[@pulkitkrishna8809]

You need to have LDS productivity research high enough for it to be "endless". Would be hard to do that by mid-game.

[@dudeguy2330]

You can't get to epic quality before going to Gleba because you need agricultural science to unlock Epic quality.

[@masterhacker7065]

@@pulkitkrishna8809 its not endless, the devs made 300% for a reason

[@pulkitkrishna8809]

@masterhacker7065 300% is endless. 300% means you get 3 extra free things every time you craft one. So, 4 things for ingredients of 1. And when you recycle it, 25% of 4 is 1, so you get the ingredients of 1 thing back, which can be used to craft 4 more things. Now, since you also get copper and steel from recycling, but don't need it for crafting, you get them for free endlessly.

[@88porpoise]

​​@@masterhacker7065No, the 300% is exactly enough to get infinite copper and steel from LDS. The 300% is set so that you can, at most, get exactly what you put into in back from a recycler. But it does not consider all alternative recipes. Since you can make LDS using liquid iron and copper plus plastic at a foundry but the recycler only considers the base recipe, you recycle it to get the copper and steel back as well as 100% of the plastic, you just got an infinite source of copper and steel for a small amount of calcite. Don't think it is that broken compared to other things, you could just upcycle metallic asteroids and use that to produce copper and iron after all. But it is darned nice and maybe a touch to easy to get going.

[@artemonstrick]

1:48 WHAT? :D those arent terrible odds :D

[@dand3116]

Lolol you caught that too! Do you as well, as I do, put qual in your legendary production machine. Every time. Every single time. I should put prod in there

[@scraphead5479]

Great explanation, thanks

[@JasonAWilliams-IS]

Great vid on Space Age Quality theory.

[@NolteGameOver]

I didnt know about this, thanks!

[@jonobrien8848]

Goated vid explaining the nuances

[@ReefTheManokit]

2:35 mate you put quality modules in the legendary one, productivity are the best for though

[@artokilponen6989]

But yeah, honestly a great video :) The only thing I'd suggest is that the music while you speak distracts a bit. I understand that might be part of your "brand", so I don't really expect you to do anything about it. Subtitles are available to help with reading anyway. Thank you!

[@SiriusDelta]

Thanks for the great video. Very compact, yet very informative and helpful. I've got one question though: How much power does your ship need? I see two fusion reactors which seems like total overkill. Wouldn't nuclear reactors suffice?

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

Oh yeah its total overkill, I just got excited when I got fusion power

[@miner_farm]

Fun fact, I found this vid while stranded by myself overnight in Melbourne lol :3

[@ruzimart]

Literally epic. :D

[@madbanana22]

I thought everyone thought of that after unlocking space platforms/gleba advanced asteroid processing

[@Sigma-xb6kn]

Why not produce Legendary Plastic on Gleba? It's infinite there and easier to scale due to the simple recipe. Since Gleba is also a good place to produce Rocket Fuel, which is a lot harder to produce on Vulcanus due to the inefficiency of Coal Liquefaction, I usually transport Rocket Fuel and Artillery Shells between the planets already, so throwing in the Plastic in the transport as well is not a problem.

[@hellyworld]

Nice one, great idea. With this process, the mining on navius get obsolete

[@toav1866]

It's still needed for uranium, but that's it.

[@lobizonxp]

Gonna start with this right now! Just for the achievement of having a full legendary suit full of legendary modules.

[@Emberrs]

Incredible video! Would love to see some blueprints that can guide my attempt at replicating this

[@nickolasbrown5928]

And here i've been crafting steel & iron chests to condensify the upcycling of those products, hah That asteroid recipe tho, oh man i wrote that off, whoopsies

[@ba1alexandre]

I have a mega recycling base in fulgora that does exactly the same thing, no hassle with spaceships, logistics, etc... I'm at 19k/mn scrap with double lane In my opinion it's easier to setup than what you showed but maybe it produces a little less ? another pro is that i get legendary holmium and superconductors / capacitors

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

I was just thinking about the possibility when I noticed the asteroid reprocessing the other day. It is so broken.

[@fubukipotato]

good work, mate

[@systemparadox]

1:55 "What if we took all of the other inputs, recycled them, and built higher quality" - I don't understand this. "other" inputs? Other inputs is just more of the same input since it's all normal quality at this point. If you mean "other outputs" (e.g. all the non-quality output) then that makes a bit more sense, but recycling normal quality outputs gives you back normal quality raw materials, so you can't directly make higher quality like you've got shown in the video. I feel like this relies on the recycler quality but that's explained afterwards and presented like it's an additional bonus. I'm very confused.

[@MarkMichon7]

This is very useful for a lot of items, thank you. However, for other materials such tungsten plates and superconductors that require materials not found in asteroids, are good old fashioned upcycling loops the best way to go about it? This is what I've been doing so far, and while it works, many of the machines have tens-hundreds of thousands crafting cycles to reach the volumes I need for my megabase.

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

Yeah for non-asteroid materials brute force or smart upcycling is the way to go, will be showing how to in the next tutorial

[@MarkMichon7]

@@melbournewocoffee5617 I'm looking forward to it!

[@artokilponen6989]

1:45 I don't think those are terrible odds if for roughly every circuit you craft there you will get one legendary circuit.

[@PurpleYoshiEgg]

1:47 "That means for roughly every circuit we craft here, we will receive one legendary circuit." Ehm... What?

[@Voeluspa45]

This guide is awesome.Thanks for explaining the process from the beginning to the end. The crazy background music stops at about 1 minute.

[@volondbekerdickenson8108]

infinite loop of low dance structures aren't working, I've tried last 2 days, if you don't have 300% productivity on low dance structure its just not enough

[@catsnorkel]

1:50 I think you mean for every 10,000 circuits we create you get 1 legendary. You said for every 1 we get 1 legendary, which ... yeah I wish

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

Yeah I definitely meant to say way more, its a low chance

[@ULTIMA89]

I confess I will probably use this method because I am a brainlet and lack patience to figure out quality

[@sakriegu15]

The ratio does not work out though. When this Blueprint runs for a while the system gets clogged with legendary asteroids because there is not enough sulfur for the coalification.

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

The coal ship has a 2nd crusher for when there is too much sulphur in the machine, that fixes the problem of too much sulphur

[@LAVERTUEG]

cant wait to reach aquilo. I just need to finish Gleba

[@Linkyboy]

Fuck me, I never thought about just recycling the low density structures.

[@adwans1491]

Craaazy. I want this

[@bullydungeon9631]

You have speed beacons, doesn't that harm quality percentages? Or is your rate just so high that it maths out? I haven't gotten near here yet lol

[@alexanderwilliams9519]

I'm also concerned, the beacon at 6:10 ish is lowering the chances at a higher quality of the surrounding buildings a bit if I understand it correctly

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

The speed beacon on the coal synthesis is made from legendary ingredients so there isn't any penalty when using beacons, I hope that helps

[@alexanderwilliams9519]

@@melbournewocoffee5617 It does, thanks for clarifying. There always seems to be another quality bonus surprising me

[@Commenter-942]

@@alexanderwilliams9519 I think you may have misunderstood, quality beacons don't reduce the penalty, the reason the penalty isn't an issue is because the ingredients are already legendary, so you don't need to improve the quality anymore.

[@alexanderwilliams9519]

@@Commenter-942 Yeah, was mixing up the prod with the quality. Makes sense now, thanks for the help

[@rangerdave3664]

Do you have blueprints?

[@TON_THENOOB]

in the blueprints, you use legendry items and modules, does it work with normal stuff or I should them legendries to start the progect?

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

It works with normal quality stuff but just slower

[@Платныйсэр]

It seems to me, that the author missed the legendary tungsten carbide, and tungsten ore, and rot. All this is needed for the production of modules. How to get legendary tungsten ore?

[@yasielfranchi]

thank you

[@fornogg]

Can you upload your space platform design? Thanks

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

Check pinned comments within the next day or so

[@eitantal726]

the productivity module requires legendary eggs. How do you get those?

[@epicspacetaco7083]

Not sure if you got your answer or not, but if you recycle eggs with a recycler with quality modules, you have a chance to get a higher quality egg out of the process. Keep in mind that it'll destroy 75% of the eggs through the process, so get ready to mill alot of eggs

[@eitantal726]

@@epicspacetaco7083 it's possible, that's how I did it. It's a slow process. It will destroy 12/13 of the eggs, because not only you lose 75% of the material, quality boost doesn't happen 75% of the time. When it doesn't, at least you get to try again. (16 eggs -> 3 eggs, 1 good egg)

[@DataScienceDIY]

You didn’t mention the main downside of this method. It does not scale up. You are limited to how fast you can receive items from space platforms, and so this method can never generate as much materials as planet based methods. Though it is still nice for a lower barrier to entry in mid-game.

[@nosnikdanych3667]

Its just as simple as placing another space platform. Ability to scale is an upside of this method. This guy however explained it incorrectly. Planet based methods will never be as fast as space ones, because of asteroid productivity, not because they are "free" and infinite but because of 20% return rate, and 300% productivity, with simple recipes you get 80% legendaries back, same with epics etc. If you have some more question you can ask

[@nathaniellufkin]

​@nosnikdanych3667 his point was that sending the resources back to the planet is the biggest bottleneck.

[@DataScienceDIY]

@nosnikdanych3667 Only one hub can be placed on a surface, and no matter how many space platforms you have, you will quickly hit limits on how fast inserters can remove items from your hub on the ground.

[@nosnikdanych3667]

@ 1. You will not quickly reach this limit. unless spending these legendaries for science. 2. Maybe you didnt know that, but you can use bots to empty hub

[@DataScienceDIY]

@nosnikdanych3667 It’s true that you can use bots, and with a good design you can extract a huge amount of materials from the hub that way. Maybe even more than with the additional inserters, but bots are a much bigger hit to UPS, and with giant games UPS becomes another bottleneck.

[@blacktigerace6687]

quality things supposed to be endgame factorio contents and generate that sweet sweet playtime hours for devs i can see this things will be nerfed to the ground later

[@Xadoras]

Recycle legendary Astroids is a little dump, as you ever have a chance to loose the input. Just build one ship, which processes all legendary astroids.

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

That's true, the argument that can be made is that you can just build more ships and asteroids are infinite so losing 20% to try and maximise desired output is worth it? I haven't done the math on it but I'm sure you can do it whichever way is preferable

[@Sapeidra]

Once I started to have dedicated upcycler setups like these the quality fulgora scrap with all the randomness quickly ended...

[@tomaszpogorzelski8397]

smart man

[@archangelpaladin44]

Using the crusher for legendary stuff is way overrated. Its really good for stuff that has plenty of other options for legendary, ie iron, copper, plastic, steel, but it can't help with the annoying shit Holmium, carbon fiber, bitter eggs, jelly, lithium. Calling you method the most op in the game i just clickbait.

[@DavidLindes]

1:47 - lol, you got an errata section, because... I don't think you meant to say that "that means for roughly every circuit we craft here, we will receive _one_ legendary circuit." I mean, it'd be an accurate reading of that bottom-right square in the chart (from 1:17), but I think you wanted the *top* right square, and "for roughly every 10,000 circuits". Oops! These things happen, so no shade, just... amusement. :)

[@dougscott4883]

Genius

[@kireitonsi]

1:47 Error just here, you said the ratio was one to one lol

[@Voeluspa45]

You did not share the blueprints; is there a reason? Like a patreon system like Greedlaus is doing it. Because I am building this right away and would share it with the community. It should have your name on it.

[@legomaster39129]

lmk when you get the blueprint

[@aalpersen]

Second, would you comment when done?

[@Voeluspa45]

Guys I tried it 5 times, youtube won't let me post but he added a link to the description.

[@darudeh5792]

Holy fucking shieet what is this dark magic

[@naikrovek]

I just do them all (legendary coal & sulfur, legendary iron ore, and legendary calcite & ice) on a single ship and then I have several copies of that ship flying around making legendary stuff for me. You CAN get legendary stone on ships, but you have to smelt legendary iron ore into molten iron using legendary calcite. legendary stone comes out of that, but because you're making molten iron, you can't make legendary iron plates out of it. But legendary iron ore is easily obtained using the method you've shown, and you can just toss the normal iron plates you make off the side, and keep the legendary stone that comes out of the foundry making molten iron.

[@grzegorz6698]

send link to blueprint, have no idea how you build ship to extract stone in space from molten iron. sorry but i doubt you do this.

[@naikrovek]

@ yeah I was wrong. I had never done it (obviously) and was going from memory, which was wrong about recipes. My mistake

[@dreamsparkle42]

blueprint codes?

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

Will be up shortly

[@largashbur66]

@melbournewocoffee5617 Can you also add the Vulcanus factory blueprint that uses the platform output as input?

[@skill3472]

mf just really optimised gambling

[@ubimv2513]

two questions: you should already have legendary modules and there are very very few legendary asteroids. You can immediately see that the editor is an amateur.

[@user-ri2qd4tg7o]

Legendary 2 modules are better than epic 3 modules btw.

[@NovaXXX7]

So beautiful.

[@itspooop]

It's coal (legendary)

[@kustanhardelus6919]

i must have missed the part with the legendary jelly, fish, tungsten and other objects that are a pain to make i cant think of in the moment. 😉

[@dacianhantig7810]

those require different tricks or sometimes just upcycle starting with the ore mining (like the tungsten ore) For leg jelly you just upcycle it the normal way. Any leftover jelly on your bus goes into the upcycler and you output leg jelly from it. Don't extract jelly from nuts without prod modules as you might run out of seeds. Also any unused jelly nut on your bus goes into the upcycler to leg jellynut, then just make leg jelly out of it with prod modules. I have not upcycled leg fish as I'm not using spidertrons at all; for this you'll have to make a fish farm and upcycle it to leg. For leg tungsten products, you start by using quality modules in your miners, then upcycle to leg tungsten ore.

[@meifray]

legendary biternest

[@Sapeidra]

I ended up with about 80 epic ones... Reason is I was too lazy to use an efficient upcycling process, so I took the brute force option of only recyclers. Odds are ~2700 to one to get a legendary biter egg.

[@dacianhantig7810]

you don't actually need those until late game as the leg for those means only they produce eggs faster. You can have a few more normal biternests and just upcycle the biter eggs to leg for leg prod modules. I noticed that at around 2k egg prod per min I started getting leg biter eggs consistently in my upcycler, but YMMV depending on your setup.

[@harrodharrod5239]

When you are going to steal someone's idea, you should at least mention them

[@kooba-be]

isn't that an exact design from nilaus though?

[@scrambo6182]

This is a great video but a few of your lines need another take, and there's some editing mistakes. Flying robot flames? LMFAO. Otherwise awesome and informative video!!!

[@solus8364]

[@gravitygames4495]

You never explained how to get legendary sulfur for coal synthesis. Cool tutorial but it's kinda useless without that.

[@yth9538]

you just process the legendary carbon asteroid with advanced carbon processing

[@wanderhillen2435]

It comes out of the legendary asteroid? There's a recipe for that.

[@Пользователь-х1в5у]

Нифига не понятно

[@danielbuege1]

Bruh.

[@dorian1370]

You stole this from Nilaus.

[@AbsoluteHuman]

And he hasn't invented it either.

[@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521]

Well this genius turned a 50+ minute boring video of nilaus's into considerably less.

[@anonymousperson2886]

"Here let me explain this core game strategy for you gu-" "Nilaus was the first person I saw do this, it belongs to him! You can't make a consice, clear, scripted video on it. You should just direct people to nilaus' 50 minute rambling episode(s) instead. You thief." That's you. That's what you sound like.

[@PaperBagProf]

Great editing and explanation, but I have seen all of this on a Nilaus video. It's fine to take inspiration but try and improve on it somehow and shout out the creator!

[@Keganditsthere]

But this gets straight to the point

[@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521]

Hey bro can you please link us the blueprints for these platforms? They're incredible!

[@melbournewocoffee5617]

Yeah I'll post them in a pinner comment shortly

[@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521]

@ You're awesome! thanks!

[@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521]

@@melbournewocoffee5617 I think the pinned comments can't have links, descriptions can though.

[@largashbur66]

​@@melbournewocoffee5617 Can you also add the Vulcanus factory blueprint that uses the platform output as input?