How to Get the MOST Out of Your Farmall Tractor's Belly Pump

How to get the most out of your Farmall Tractor's Belly Pump. Antique farm tractor in operation on the farm. Vintage farm tractor in operation on the farm. #farmallfanatic #farmall #antiquetractors

[@rhekman]

Here's another letter series tip: for hydraulics that circulate, like our M and H with aftermarket two way control valves, plumb the return line into the factory drain hole at the bottom. With a 90 degree fitting plus a tee, you can keep the factory drain plug for easy fluid changes, but return oil won't get aerated. Also a 45 fitting and a stand pipe from the factory fill hole will give you a little more capacity.

[@2stage90]

I was born in 83 but I picked up a Super M with a loader a while back for just moving things around the house I cant alone.. Thanks for all you show. I even re-did a 2 bottom Genius because of what I learned on here.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Awesome tractor and plow ...American made

[@mylifethaidiy7045]

I was born in 84 and I was torn between buying an M with a loader and grapple fork ($1400) or a snow plow for my Honda Rancher 4-wheeler ($600) for clearing snow in my driveway here in town. I ended up buying the snow plow, since I love using my 4-wheeler, but my Uncle has 2 M's and he said they start great during the winter. Just pour some gas down the carburetor.

[@brokenwrench1]

when i worked for my IH dealer i set up 370 and 470 disks from 12ft to 21 ft. there were still a lot of farmers using H and M and 300 and 400 series tractors coming and buying new disks..and sometimes a new plow or rebuilding their old ones. the IH dealers daughter was in band with me and in chior . he had the high school chior sing a jingle for the radio ad i can never forget You are not farming at all unless your farm it all with a Farmall from buff equipment your local International Harvester farm equipment dealer. his younger son was in commercial art and the high school art dept drew up the ads for the newpaper the dealership donate money to both the chior and the art dept those were the days.

[@gregreinhardt6916]

We live near Highland a use Bluff dealership. I hope they can stay independent!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Awesome

[@johnnycampbell5234]

Deff went up and down alot fast after topping her off. Love your old IH Loadstar, that thing is in great shape. Really enjoy these REDucation videos, I always learn something

[@fordenginebuildersv8power184]

I thought for sure you’d be broadcasting live from the auction today! Cheeseburgers and coffee live! Good video!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Today 😁

[@donparker8246]

Greasing is a good habit to get into. Too often, I've seen guys come into the Case/IH dealership I worked at, buying parts every year that would last for countless seasons if they'd just do some PM on their equipment. Then, they belly ache about how expensive parts are. I told a guy one time, "Oil and grease are cheaper." My boss laughed.

[@nathanalmond8280]

Grease is cheaper than steel. Grease a disc everytime you use it. Unless you have sealed bearings on the gangs. It's amazing what a little bit of hydraulic oil will do. The old belly pump was doing her part after it had enough oil.

[@Husker3435]

Yes sir on the belly pump...quickest thing to check first is fluid level and the easiest...ya done good FF😎😎😎keep em comin 👍🏻ready for tillage vids bud🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@JeepWranglerIslander]

Where DOES the fluid go if it's not leaking? Filling up the hydraulic lines?

[@AnnieFarmerFarm]

Great information You sure got a great collection now~! Makes it more fun to plow~! Glad to see your not buried in snow we got some warm weather then cold then a snow now rain and heck awful winds well I can say we experienced it all this March~! I'm ready to get planting I know you are done plowed my little garden here~! LOL

[@kylekenan2321]

Perfect timing! I'm working on converting my 14ft #37 to a 1 way for my M today.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Nice

[@briandietrich1373]

I remembering HY-Tran nn a 574. Loved that tractor.

[@williamsnipes7608]

Can't live your life for anyone, but you. You got it right.

[@Jason1Pa]

Some good tips!! Can't wait for some plowing and discing videos!

[@gregreinhardt6916]

My very experienced friend said his dad taught him to go shallow on the first pass. Deeper on the next. When the disk is cutting into firm ground the second time doesn't bounce and you have less clods. Try it?

[@FarmallFanatic]

I call it feathering vs. wheels up...I have no problem feathering the first pass if needed

[@TomA6788]

Great information as always👍👍👍 Since you have multiple era tractors, makes sense that to protect for any potential future use by going with Hi-Tran across the fleet. Hope you are having fun bidding at the auction, anxiously waiting to see what the SH sells for 💥💥

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

Great info!

[@guydaubenspeck9206]

Hey fanatic! Guy from Butler here. Heard your call man about to dry I was over most of our farm last week watching hey and pastor at least spreading fertilizer and this afternoon even after the rain and snow we cleaned our stock trailer to dump what we cleaned out of the stock trailer on it so we can plow it under. I was quite surprised how well I was able to get in that with the skin I think a couple try sunny days we might need to put the flowers in the ground here the question is when are we going to get a couple dry sunny days? And by the way the old BN that we rebuilt last summer and then needed a new fan drive hub and a little touch-up work on the radiator is back together today I made a trip to New Bethlehem this morning and brought the parts home and she's purring like a kitten again! Was really pleased to hear it run

[@FarmallFanatic]

Most excellent 👌

[@lynnhavenfarm8514]

Good info to know when I get the super h set up

[@ikonseesmrno7300]

Grease your bearings ESPECIALLY if the piece of equipment is stored outside!! It's all fun & games until a bearing goes to hell because water got in the bearing, sun baked the grease to a fossilized state, etc. Then it's all over but the sniffles!😂

[@mikeseegmiller2696]

The m are good tractor got greese them make them work good and keep up good video's 👍

[@bobpaterson1845]

So lookin forward to seein that Red Power at work in the fields 💪💥 👍

[@FarmallFanatic]

Me too

[@alspeers6931]

Always surprised what the H would do as for general work (impressive work horse) but that big M really impressed me with 1950 s reliability and strong torque for such old school tractor s

[@shawnbauman5463]

Some one put a later pump in my 41 H. Running 30w mineral oil. 3 point hitch with a 3"x8" IH cylinder. It'll pick up stuff. Actually measured the pressure with a gauge I bought. 750psi.

[@FarmallFanatic]

It actually called for 30w out of the factory...HyTran is only 10w

[@briandietrich1373]

Who knew you could use Hy-Tran in a M? Cool video!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Thank you 👍

[@briandietrich1373]

Hy-Tran was good stuff

[@FarmallFanatic]

It's still pretty good for the most part

[@hm12460]

3:48 Does your M have a simple gear pump? If so, it should pretty much last a very, very long time unless you are trying to run rocks thru it.

[@FarmallFanatic]

It's an 80 year old tractor...that's what I call lasting. A lot of em wore out due to running em dry, etc.

[@LauraBruno33]

The mighty "M" 💥Boom💥

[@jamesmorrison1884]

Hello nice disc to wet to cold can barely walk in the fields around here. Have a good day

[@FarmallFanatic]

We got 10" of snow ❄️

[@jamesmorrison1884]

@@FarmallFanatic Hi sure is nice a lol. NOT we have about 2" 10cm here it's cold I'm tired this lol.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Hopefully this is it

[@georgechambers8301]

I know H stands for what ever you want it too- but does M stand for More power

[@FarmallFanatic]

MIGHTY

[@williamchristopher1560]

Does a H have a check dip stick> My 48 H Dosnt have one. I just fill it to the top. Only use it when im mowing. I grease my 16ft single once a year to use on 6 acres.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Mine doesn't...it would be useless for me...fill it til it works lol

[@tyfrank3427]

I'm not very familiar with the belly pump. The standard tread tractors have live hydraulics with the pump in between the timing gears and distributor or magneto just like the late Farmalls have. But what you said applies to them too. They are lower pressure so they require a larger cylinder, and keep the hydraulics full of oil. I'm not sure about the belly pumps, but the standards have a " tin can" hydraulic tank and they only hold about 5 litres of oil. On them though, it's probably better to use engine oil in case the seal goes on the pump and leaks oil into the crankcase, although we also sometimes use Hy-Tran for the same reason you do... You can buy an equivalent to Hy-Tran at a bulk petroleum dealer. The new Hy-Tran is synthetic and therefore highly expensive. It's not necessary to use synthetic in an IH tractor as they never had synthetics then.

[@FarmallFanatic]

everything you said is correct

[@jameschainey2343]

You talked about the belly pump. It a internal pump?it it is what do you have to do to switch it out?

[@FarmallFanatic]

They drop right out of the bottom of the tractor and they are pretty heavy

[@stumpy2816]

👍👍

[@paulpochan9631]

That's right FF..... FILL IT TO THE RIM.....!!!!!

[@FarmallFanatic]

BRIM!!!

[@paulpochan9631]

😁😆😅😂🤣

[@mylifethaidiy7045]

And then torque the cap to German Specs. (Good - N - Tight). lol

[@JeepWranglerIslander]

What's happening when the fluid gets low? I'm assuming the pump cavitates and tries to pump air? Seems like the real problem is that "Full" line on the dipstick is too low for what should be properly full to prevent that, eh? Is it possible to overfill? Shouldn't be if all you're trying to do is keep fluid in and air out, right?

[@FarmallFanatic]

I haven't added fluid in 5 years and didn't need to add that much to make a huge difference. Just pulling the lines off the remotes will make you lose some fluid, and over the years, a little adds up. I agree the dipstick is off

[@RandWFarmstead-TonyWalsh]

Great tip and enjoy watching you with your red power. Take care and have a blessed rest of the weekend my friend.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Thank you

[@leecarroll1817]

Oil/grease cheap, equipment expensive. Doesn't seem too complicated.

[@MarkWYoung-ky4uc]

Big Red bogs then finish harrows. Yes I use grease. If you don't believe it, just check out my Farmall. Not too close though or you will get greasy!

[@FarmallFanatic]

Yep lol

[@garybarrett6581]

you can shin the releaf valve. back in the 60 when a M with a loader was a big beast in took a lot to load manure and move 4 pen hog houses for the livestock farmers!! l will be wachin!!!! l mean shim.

[@daverobertson3519]

😊😊😊

[@isaacwalker7863]

Supposedly, CNH is using Shell to manufacturer hy-Tran now and it’s not rated for the older stuff with TA’s and it’s quicker to break down. Not sure how true it is as I’ve only heard it from one guy. the old manufacturer was a brand called viscosity and their ultraction original is what hy-Tran used to be

[@FarmallFanatic]

Heard that too

[@larrywatson2109]

Didn't IH have their own plant in Oklahoma that made Hy-Tran.

[@hturbo1007]

Yup, people ask me the same question. How do I get these old tractors to lift? .... get a larger cylinder... More area inside the cylinder means more lifting power.

[@JeepWranglerIslander]

At what point does the cylinder get too big for the old pump to be able to push?

[@FarmallFanatic]

I know a 4x8 isn't too big...and is a massive difference

[@FarmallFanatic]

Yep and lots of fluid

[@hturbo1007]

@@JeepWranglerIslander bigger the better. Some of the old loaders that were on these tractors were 4 inch by 8 foot.

[@tyfrank3427]

@@JeepWranglerIslander It never does get too big to push. The bigger it is, the more force you have. The downside to bigger is it's slower. Another potential problem with a cylinder that's big is the limited oil capacity in the tank. I'm not sure about the Farmall belly pump but the standard tread equivalent to a Farmall M is a W-6. They use a cylindrical tank about 7" in diameter and a foot long so they don't hold a lot of oil. I've seen bulged hydraulic tanks on those tractors when they use the original hydraulic systems on loaders for that reason. That being said, it's the rod diameter, rod length and number of cylinders that affect that, and not the diameter of the piston.

[@derekgilbert2884]

What year is big Red truck International

[@FarmallFanatic]

1974

[@farmallchris]

I use non detergent oil 30 weight

[@FarmallFanatic]

That's what it originally called for

[@stanleybaker8707]

Why do you dislike John deere tractors 🚜, I'm a farmall and massey ferguson man myself.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Modern day John Deere is big corporate boooo

[@gregbutler9873]

Where does the oil go ? The seals on your lift cylinder need rebuilt ? You a grumpy old man ? I don’t think so because I am the same way even though you are older than me… lol

[@FarmallFanatic]

You mean where does the hydraulic oil return?

[@gregbutler9873]

@@FarmallFanatic no what I mean is IH is the Harley Davisons of the tractor world… lol 😂

[@billypirtle1443]

All of my equipment gets greased every day of use no matter what it dose I have two IH 3 ton dump trucks 1974 modles one green one blue gases both run exalent 1586 1066 two 8000 ford's no a thing wrong with ether one of them combine TR 99 still doing there jods.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Every single machine you named is a dream machine 😳