How to get tighter bass with Audyssey MultEq

[@EB1000]

Just take 5 close measurements (up to 20cm from MLP): 1-MLP, 2- right above MLP, 3 - left above MLP, 4 - front below MLP, 5 - back below MLP . Now export the .ady file to your PC and use OCA's A1 EVO script. This ensures best results, even better than Dirac live on my X4800H with dual subs.

[@fieldsniper88]

yes use this i just ran this last night works great im running a 7.3.4 atmos setup

[@magnoliamo]

I ran OCA’s A1 EVO script yesterday. It does sound way better than before. Be on the lookout for a video on this.

[@kuriakos36]

​@@magnoliamo it gives you an a house curve the evo 1 or you can aply house curve with rew???

[@magnoliamo]

@kuriakos36 there is a target curve that you set. Evo gives you one but you can load your own as well. That is according to OCA’s KZbin video on this.

[@kuriakos36]

@@magnoliamo but what you prefer buddy ??? What is the best ??

[@wktek48]

Thanx for this tutorial because my couch is against the wall and this could be a solution for me. I have a 5.1.4 system and use oberon 1 as surround speakers of the side of my couch, also surround height rear sideways with SVS elevation speakers.

[@magnoliamo]

Yep! Let me know if you hear any audible differences post calibration.

[@m4nc1n1]

At the moment, I am trying to figure out the front wides' placement: closer to the mains, closer to me, or right in the middle. As usual, different diagrams show different things. Marantz will show one thing, and Dolby will show something else, lol.

[@magnoliamo]

lol yes. I started with Marantz recommendation but then switched to Dolby’s spec. It is in the middle of the room, half way to the listening position. Checkout the video I did on this: Are Front Wide Speakers Worth the Upgrade? 9.2.4 Home Theater Setup #hometheater kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3iaiJ9jptqZptE

[@FURognar]

Glad to see you trying out my suggestion. Tighter bass is definitely one of the benefits and is probably most noticeable in surround and immersive content. The other benefit is probably somewhat less noticeable with surround content and more applicable in 2-channel. (It does have the same benefit in surround, its just harder to isolate the effect because so much is going on) I recommend listening to some 2-channel music or content you know really well to listen for additional changes.

[@magnoliamo]

Thanks for the suggestion. I will listen to some 2-channel content and report back.

[@magnoliamo]

Btw, I truly appreciate your feedback and suggestions. Keep it going.

[@FURognar]

@@magnoliamo no problem. I love sharing what I've learned with others as well as hearing their experiences as well

[@strugs1]

I enjoyed your video. I have often wondered about the suggestion of taking measurements behind the seat, as your ears will never be in that position. I am going to try taking measurements using your technique this week. Since you are using REW, have you tried the A1 EVO process? The bass response in my system has improved exponentially after modifying my Audyssey files using this process. There is a KZbin vid on A1 EVO and you might want to read the details about it on the AVS forums.

[@magnoliamo]

Thanks. Truly appreciate the feedback. I did watch the KZbin video and have also been following the AVS discussion. That’s next on my list to try out. Thanks for reminding me.

[@vortexor1]

@@magnoliamo A1 evo sounds so clear and spacious! I've never thought that my setup can sound that good! It´s on the same level as Trinnov! Try it please, you will you will rediscover your setup. Greetings from the Austrian Alps, Simon

[@magnoliamo]

@vortexor1 Will definitely try it out and even do a video on it.

[@m4nc1n1]

What is A1 EVO? I just got the Cinema 30 and need to run MultEQ-X. Crazy how good it sounds out of the box tho. I just did distance and level after plug in.

[@magnoliamo]

@@m4nc1n1 you can read about it on AVSFORUM. www.avsforum.com/threads/audyssey-one-oca-does-it-again-and-again.3297198/

[@user-if4jg6ul9o]

Are the 7 and 8 ones on the floor behind the couch or raised up to ear level,

[@magnoliamo]

The 7th and 8th measurements are 6 inches to the right and left of the MLP at the same height as the MLP

[@user-if4jg6ul9o]

@@magnoliamo what about the other ones and can I use an extension cable to the couch?

[@magnoliamo]

@ all measurements are on the couch at the same height as the MLP. As long as the extension cable for the mic is the same type and actually works without Audyssey throwing out an error it should be ok. I have always been curious about the extension cables so let me know if it works. Thanks.

[@m4nc1n1]

I only do three. I have three seats. I've been using Audyssey for 15 years with Marantz, and it always sounded best if I stopped at three. This may be partly why. I just followed the screen like everyone else.

[@magnoliamo]

Correct. I have always heard that you have to take all 8 measurements. You can take all 8 around your 3 seats. It will sound even better.

[@MiG-40i]

the more positions you meassure, the more compromises you add. less is better here. if you do 8 points, audyssey and A1 EVO or every other method will try to make corrections for each measurement point. that will effect the linearity of your measurement in a bad way. so 3 points of measurement is the way to go

[@magnoliamo]

@@MiG-40i Makes sense to me. I have tried 3 mic positions many times. Maybe I should do a comparison of the two using REW

[@MiG-40i]

@@magnoliamo good idea👍

[@krishnataveras8734]

Wait a minute I always thought that the last two measurements were at the front, like 2 feet from the MLP? Have I always been doing this wrong?

[@magnoliamo]

@@krishnataveras8734 If you follow the Audyssey’s onscreen direction last two positions are behind the listening 20 inches on the right and left. But you can take those last measurements 6 inches to the front right and left or next to the MLP.

[@krishnataveras8734]

@@magnoliamo I was reading the image from the Audyssey app backwards. Now thanks to your video I am finally seeing it he correct way

[@arielrodriguez6980]

Is Audyssey better than Dirac?

[@magnoliamo]

Dirac is supposedly better because of subwoofer calibration capabilities. But Audyssey MultEQ XT32 is no slouch. I have no experience with Dirac. If you have Audyssey MultEQ XT32 and the MultEQ App then along with the calibration file from Obssesive Compulsive Audiophile the Audyssey sound is much improved. Checkout this video if you want more info on the A1 Evo script. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2e5aHuZa7VgjZosi=caaV1WYuuOqCz1Tb

[@seantong6105]

Audyssey do not, let me repeat do not, recommend the last two positions to be behind the listening position.

[@magnoliamo]

I agree. ☝️

[@Vgallo]

Why? That’s not what the guys at audioholics recommend, I mean there’s alot of science gone into measuring behind main listening position.

[@magnoliamo]

Thanks. I know and I’m aware. That’s why I have always measured 7th and 8th behind the MLP. This was an experiment and I provided the results of the experiment. I think if someone doesn’t have space behind the main listening to measure 7th and 8th spots then they can use this method because it’s giving Audyssey more data to use about the listening space.