How to Glue On Car/Truck Rocker Panels - No Welding!

Shows how to glue on a car or truck rocker panel with SEM impact resistant panel adhesive. No welding! Tools and materials are listed below.
*Glue: SEM Structural Impact Resistant Adhesive - Part Number 39757
*Drill: Mac Tools
*Air Hammer: Older Chicago Pneumatic & Older Rodac (Red)
*Chisel Bit for Air Hammer: shop.snapon.co...
*3/8" Impact - Sioux IW38HAP-3F
*Electric Sander/Polisher: www.harborfrei...
*Small Sander/grinder: www.harborfrei...
*Patch Panel/New Rocker Panel: Raybuck's Auto Body Parts or Mill Supply Inc.
*Die grinder: www.harborfrei...
*Rivets: 3/16" - www.ebay.com/i...
*Cut Off Wheel for Die Grinder: 3 In. X 1/16 In. X 3/8 In. Metal Cut-Off Wheels www.harborfrei...
*Large Vise Grip Clamps: www.harborfrei...
*Other Clamps: Various C clamps and vise grips
*Pointed Body Hammer: www.jbtools.co...
*36/40 Grit Fiber Resin Discs: benchmarkabras...
*Broken Cheese Grater Blade for Shaving Bondo: www.amazon.com...
*Body Filler: Auto Body Master lightweight body filler
*Metal Spreaders: www.ebay.com/i...
*Sand Paper (To Fold): www.ebay.com/i...
*5" DA: National Detroit DA
*Palm Sander DA: www.amazon.com...
*Spray Gun: www.campbellha...
*Primer surfacer: Auto Body Master lacquer primer surfacer thinned with Auto Body Master lacquer thinner
*Tape: 3M Auto Body Refinishing Tape
/ @lakesideautobody

[@csflmich2239]

No matter the method, you always do top-notch work! Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I have learned a lot on your channel.

[@LakesideAutobody]

I appreciate that my friend - have a good weekend :)

[@georgechristilaw6282]

I’m going to do my rockers and cab corners with the 3M adhesive. I am going to rivet the panels like you did. Use bono for the edges and grind down the rivet heads down enough and bondo them as well then prime and paint. But before I do all of that I will be painting the rust/ rot areas with a metal rust inhibitor first.

[@davidbondy4359]

as usual great job,you don't know how to do bad work. you are a professional to the highest standard of the word.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks a lot David - I appreciate the kind words. Have a good week :)

[@pstreetgarage7304]

Always amazed at how thin the mating surfaces are. Beautiful though. No welding or distortion.

[@MikeOrazzi]

This might work on my Jeep. Thanks.

[@unclemarksdiyauto]

What a great video, Jerry! I did a search and when I seen your video pop up, I knew I should look no further! Great explanation and step by step instructions. I will be doing this before the snow flys, I hope. Thanks again!

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome Uncle Mark. Let me know how it goes 😊

[@NoferTrunions]

Sure eliminates a bunch of welding! I like the idea of gluing the spot weal flanges since they will be sealed and not wick water. I've used self drilling, self tapping, washer head screw on flanges and laps which pull the pieces together nicely - then when all installed remove one at a time and pop-rivet if desired or a visible area.

[@RedWhiteAndBlueVideo]

I used screws on my cab corners but removed after the adhesive dried and covered with waterproof filler. Matter of fact the factory only had a couple spot welds and adhesive. I welded the rockers. I think next time I may tack and use panel bond. It is very strong, and in areas like my Silverado corners, I didn’t want to start the cab on fire.

[@davegallucci9327]

That happened to one of my trucks. Caught the interior on fire. I still remember the call I received.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

I just built a Smyth Ute from a Jetta. Using panelbond with the kit just made the chassis so much more solid, now when I jack the left front up to change the tire ,the right side follows, and is only like 1-2" from what the left side height is. No more dragging the jack from side to side to change tires 😂

[@brianmccoy9708]

I wish I had I actually caught my cab on fire on my f250 I punched thru before I could get it out lost my seat belt inner panel an corner of seat think God its my work truck I'll just pull out back seat it's always full of tools anyway I dud my cab corners live an learn

[@robertfox321]

your videos are incredibly helpful. I love how you show every step. keep 'em coming!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks Robert - I appreciate the support - have a great week :)

[@bruceperron3796]

I used both glue and welds when i do bedsides and quarter panels,the new adhesives are really good nowadays.

[@JudiMarks]

Howie ya got this how it's done been doing this over 40 years lot of changes to this work and ya know what your good teacher should be able to do this in your sleep this for Showing us so we can understand why it costs hrs and time the better we get more money for the right tools to be proud in our work l salute you so from Canada 🇨🇦 SK later l,m doing 2004 extended cab the same lot of work but l got this this again Paul keep it up we're old school workers be proud we're dying off our generation 😊😊

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks for the kind words JM - take care and good luck with your 04 - let me know how it goes :)

[@jtacree8510]

Thanks Jerry for the confidence on glueing my floor pans down , you do great work !

[@LakesideAutobody]

Let me know how it goes for you. Have a good weekend and thanks for the support :)

[@davidbrown-55]

Beautiful work as always. You make it look easy.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks David - have a good week :)

[@not-fishing4730]

Thanks for the video, it gives me options to welding and grinding. Also I love the finger painting, I thought I was the only one to do that.

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome. Have a good weekend :)

[@tykellerman6384]

Looks great hard to imagine glue that strong🤠👍

[@LakesideAutobody]

Here it is a few years later if interested - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXq2YoeYq5x-rNk

[@josephpuchel6497]

This is excellent work. Great job Jerry

[@bigytv8392]

Excellent, no BS video. Thanks!

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome :)

[@jayinmi3706]

I've been considering using this or a similar product to cover the sunroof opening in my car. Would be nice not to have to gut the interior to protect everything from weld sparks.

[@c50ge]

Bought a pneumatic pop rivet gun. Best investment !

[@LakesideAutobody]

👍😊

[@jimbass924]

Great video with detailed steps... easy to follow!

[@travr6]

I was considering doing this but honestly welding seems so much easier.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Welding is much easier but this gives you a 100% water tight seam (if you're concerned with that 😊)

[@805ROADKING]

Well done Bud!! Excellent repair!!☻

[@MoOmran-zr5rf]

Beautiful piece of work sir! Thank you

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome :)

[@raymeyers2163]

Thanks for the video's glad I found your channel. I am considering trying some similar work on my 2000 silverado and my 04 f250.

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome. Let me know if you have questions. I answer once or twice a day. Jerry

[@douglasdailey5998]

Dang nice job. I wished i lived in your neck of the woods, my truck would be looking pretty sweet.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks Douglas - have a good week :)

[@douglasdailey5998]

@@LakesideAutobody you have a good week as well. I didn't notice what state are you in.

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@douglasdailey5998 Michigan - used to live just east of Detroit :)

[@paullalande]

Great video there is a reason body work is so expensive

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're right about that materials are $ and labor is $ :)

[@davegallucci9327]

I was just thinking about glueing panels. U read my mind! Good video, Thanks!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Good thinking Dave. Have a good weekend :)

[@t.e.1189]

Where is the previous video showing removing the welds, separating the rusty rocker and fixing up the inner panel? How many videos in all for this repair? Your videos are very informative and absolutely great! I hate loud annoying music and people pretending to know what their talking about and instead just passing on misinformation and wasting my time. Your videos are nothing like that. Thank you very much!

[@LakesideAutobody]

I appreciate that T.E. - Here's every video on this truck: kzbin.info/aero/PLOP9eoG14-I_5orQdo3G4zEQPXmCkaK4K & here's the previous video to this one - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ7WdKWHYpx_Zrc Finally, this is the other side but welded - it may help you out too - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2eaenuXqtd2l68

[@justwatchingffs371]

Great video! If you were to do another one, some more detail of how to cut out the old panel to fit the new one could be helpful.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Here's another - If you need more let me know, I'll send more 😊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2eaenuXqtd2l68

[@macpherson3182]

nice job . wheni built my camper i boughtt a air riveter it really saved my hands

[@LakesideAutobody]

That would be easier for sure :)

[@bjr2379]

Another awesome video! Thanks! 👍

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome RJB - have a good week :)

[@cocopublicnews6766]

Seems better than riveting on a new floor pan

[@HappyBarn-lv6bm]

Great job

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks - have a good weekend :)

[@buchanansleeve7427]

Looks great your work is awesome.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks Buchanan Sleeve - I appreciate the support :)

[@308hit]

Nice work....

[@chrismedaris4873]

Your skills are amazing just saying ty for showing this

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome Chris - glad you like these videos. Enjoy the week my friend :)

[@husky1239]

As always Jerry you do great job

[@LakesideAutobody]

I appreciate it Husky - have a great week :)

[@WSallai]

First-time viewer, now a subscriber. Thanks for showing us how to take care of rusty rocker panels without welding equipment. Your lighting, explanations, and demonstration of work were very good. I've seen some people on KZbin advocating the use of expanding foam inside the rocker panels. Would that be something to do to prevent rust from reoccurring or is it unnecessary?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Absolutely not necessary and blocks drainage. Ford tried that on Ranger quarter panels and it trapped moisture and thus rotted out the panels. Drainage and a squirt of oil at the bottom of the panel works the best - see video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bonEi3WvbKx2baM

[@jefferypowell9885]

are we driving model cars that glue together

[@darrenlub]

Bulk jb weld?. Great repair. Wish u were my neighbor..

[@stever3953]

Thanks for the video. I would like to try this some time

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome Steve - here for ?s if you need :)

[@genemyersmyers6710]

I wish i seen this a year ago,i went and did the quick covers instead.

[@plumbucket65]

Thanks

[@robertstaff]

Thats amazing. Bonding technology has come a long way. Would this be your first choice method or would you stick to familiar welding option?

[@LakesideAutobody]

If it was my truck, I would probably glue all rust repair simply because of the water tight seams. Certainly though there will be times that your only choice. Thanks for watching Robert - have a good weekend :)

[@porschmn167]

I noticed you were using aluminum rivets, don't you worry about the two different metals reacting with each other especially in a area where they use salt on the roads?

[@LakesideAutobody]

I'm not worried at all because of these factors. 1) They are now buried or incased in glue and will not "see" moisture. 2) I will treat the rust repair after painting so that you'll never have to worry about salt on the roads. See this video for more on that process - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2GYlYGuqZKhjMU Hope that helps answer your ?s a bit - Jerry

[@billhayward2668]

Turned out great.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks Bill - have a good weekend my friend :)

[@gm-lb9oe]

Great video Jerry thank you

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome G M - have a good weekend :)

[@darrickcover2200]

great job i bet this would outlast a welded in panel it seems the weld is the first place rust starts back

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're right - that is the weak link of a welded patch.

[@tomschaerer7515]

I know they aircraft sheet metal on airliners. Heard a rumor the stuff can take 2500lbsper square inch and takes HIGH heat to break it free. Gotta be con firmed though. Pretty sure cars woud at least be partially glued

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're right - Boeing, Airbus, etc. use glue and rivets to connect the panels together.

[@randall928]

Great video, what is the special gun for the glue?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks - it's called a Panel Bond Gun Gun or Panel Adhesive Gun - you can look them up on amazon or ebay :)

[@theartofwanderlust]

Is this becoming the new normal, for body shops? What do you feel are the biggest advantages of this method? I no longer have a welder and was planning on repurchasing one for my project truck. I had no idea this product even existed. Great work, thanks for posting this

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome. I've stopped at a few shops after retiring to see what's going on. I welded most of my career but many are now using glues because of the water proof seam. I do think it is a bit more challenging than welding a patch but I feel that the water tight seam is probably the way to go for maximum longevity :)

[@clifftangeman905]

I would have to say using glue is a much faster process safer hell no! Shops use to glue and have gotten away from this method because of the liability that comes with it! Your own project sure but it will fail at the seams why not just use seam sealer and not even fill the seams if your going rogue

[@bestillandknow3939]

I have facing a similar job. I was wondering about adherence over paint. On the other hand, with your method, you have bare metal exposed to the moisture inside the rocker. What is the solution?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Never worry about bare metal inside - honestly. What causes rust on vehicles is the inability to dry out inside. If you make sure the panels can drain and dry out inside you'll never have problems :) Check this vid out for longevity - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bonEi3WvbKx2baM and kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5XVfa2pr5eYgsk

[@steveleston276]

excellent video & workmanship, I don't have the 2 tube chaulk gun can I substitute your glue w/ 3m 5200 I use it on marine stuff and it's extremely strong. I was planning on fabbing my own panel out of alimiun buy hand forming. one rocker is a only 1/3 rusted other rocker is completely rotton.

[@LakesideAutobody]

I really don't see why you couldn't. I glued in a whole van floor with metal roof adhesive and self tappers and once cured it wasn't going anywhere. Have a good weekend Steve :)

[@420Brew]

Impact means direct hit correct? It's not designed for torque and tweek either right?😮

[@LakesideAutobody]

Yes it is made to torque and tweak - you will not be able to break these two panels apart once the glue sets. Welding still might be stronger but this really tough stuff - factories glue door panels and all sorts of stuff now :)

[@terrypurviance2513]

You have just cost my body man friend some income. He's been monkeying around putting me off so I'll be trying it myself

[@LakesideAutobody]

That's great - actually most guys avoid rust repair so it's good to learn to do it yourself. I'm willing to bet you'll do a better job too :)

[@joelaurino3903]

I'm looking at the parts list for the tools but don't see a link to buy the rocker panel

[@LakesideAutobody]

Rockers can be bought at millsupply or raybucks

[@joelaurino3903]

Is this a structural rocker panel that you normally weld on or or a slip on rocker panel like the one at raybucks website. i.e. part # 0864-105 or is it part# 0864-107.@@LakesideAutobody

[@weliftnation2418]

How much do you normally charge for job like this?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Prices vary greatly from shop to shop so it's good to check around. I flip cars and truck or fix clean title repairable vehicles so I can't give you an accurate estimate but I'd say anything from 500 - 1000 per side.

[@brandontomalewski8277]

I might have to do my inner rockers never done anything like this before but I am mechanically inclined and know my way around tools. But my question is can you do the inner rockers the same way with the adhesive and rivets? I don’t own a welder nor have welding experience.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Yes. Glue and rivets will work fine. You are only limited by your own imagination. Of course when it comes to frame work, or structural components, you'll want to weld. BTW you can learn to weld in 1 minute and a good gas mig welder is around 200 bucks - I'm in the middle of doing a review on one that will be around 150 :) Here's how easy it is...kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3O8on-DlNKMZ9U

[@lonewolf9390]

I just ordered a slip on rocker panel for my 2011 Chevy Cruze, and I noticed in the product description that the metal is zinc galvanized. Upon further research online, I read that a lot of primers will not stick to galvanized metal. Is there any sort of primers you could recommend that will adhere to galvanized?

[@LakesideAutobody]

It'll stick. Just DA sand it with 120 grit. Used epoxy primer first if you are really concerned. Used to do it all the time at body shops. Many Dodge vans and other vehicles had galvanized rockers, panels, etc. Never had an issue and we used lacquer primer or polyester primer (feather fill).

[@lonewolf9390]

@@LakesideAutobody Thanks a million. I was hoping there was a way to do it without having to buy an expensive primer.

[@EChunter]

You have a video removing the old rocker ?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Yes - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ7WdKWHYpx_Zrc

[@atlmv3255]

Do you have longterm review for wheel arch install with glue.?

[@LakesideAutobody]

It's still fine - one of my friends trucks. I'll do a follow up video on that - good idea. You can rest assured that it'll last as long as we're here on earth :)

[@rickychildoftheking5266]

I believe you should have smeared the glue on all the bare metal to protect it from rusting

[@LakesideAutobody]

Good suggestion Ricky :)

[@terryneubrand1448]

After you finish the body work and paint it you're still probably going to have a ghost line come through where that seam was do you have that problem with that doing it this way

[@LakesideAutobody]

Many body shops use glues for rust repair - you have to tap the seam down to eliminate any problems w/ gl's - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXq2YoeYq5x-rNk

[@sayeedmohammadnadir5965]

What’s the name of glue that you used.

[@LakesideAutobody]

SEM Impact resistant panel adhesive - has micro sized balls in it to keep from being squeezed out - plus won't cack when hit with body hammer :)

[@BreakerBreaker1320]

Coat the inside with wax?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Yes - you can do that or just squirt some used motor oil in there and let it creep around to coat all the nooks and crannies like this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bonEi3WvbKx2baM

[@rosshoffman8473]

If you we’re doing squarebody rockers how would you use rivets or would u use self tappers and after it dries remove and fill w more panel bond?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Here's a video that may help - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKeogYSforxobJY & these - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIPYoHieir-Db7c this is welding it in place - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2SxfqaQppVsi8U

[@ericbutler856]

I’m thinking about glueing the rockers on me 2006 Ford e 250 do you have any videos of you doing vans

[@LakesideAutobody]

I don't - sorry. Most rocker panels are very very similar though. I looked that rocker replacement up and it looks like you can glue around the whole perimeter. raybuck.com/product/1992-12-ford-van-front-oem-rocker-panel-driver-side/?gclid=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0nyrpJj__

[@91rss]

being structural , some places want everything welded, no pop rivets alowed.

[@LakesideAutobody]

The rockers on this truck is not really structural as it has been driven for about 10 years without rockers. That panel that I glued the rocker to is super thick - like 16 gauge - and welded to the floor and braces that are also integral to the floor. I think Ford knows that the rockers are going to rust so they make sure you don't need them :)

[@MrTheHillfolk]

12:00 curious about what my autobody buddyvtold me ,and thats to be careful because panelbond can "ghost" thru paint and it can be hard to seal? Will filler seal it?

[@LakesideAutobody]

A lot of folks make the mistake of trying to avoid filler. Filler is a great buffer between the seam and the finish. Knock the seam down, fill, prime, paint - no problems. Here's a follow up video on this repair 3 years later - zero ghosting - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXq2YoeYq5x-rNk

[@technicalitems731]

Love the content! Is there an issue with dissimilar metals? (Aluminum rivets against steel rocker parts).

[@LakesideAutobody]

I have never had a problem. You can leave the rivets out if you want. Just tap those holes down and fill with fiberglass reinforced filler first for waterproof filler. Then use your regular filler to finish up. I glue the rivets it so that's probably why there's no issues. Here's the follow up video on this repair - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXq2YoeYq5x-rNk I appreciate the support TI - have a good Easter :)

[@PeteR-or5kj]

Any reason why you didn't take off the doors?

[@LakesideAutobody]

No - you can take the doors off if you want. I like to keep them on so I can make sure the gap is right at the bottom and sides also.

[@mikewilliams6767]

I don't know if i missed it but how many tubes of the adhesive did you need for both sides?

[@LakesideAutobody]

I only did one side with the glue. The other side was welded. You will only need one tube though :)

[@LakesideAutobody]

I only did one side with the glue. The other side was welded. You will only need one tube though :)

[@durzolife]

Would using the structural adhesive be suitable for a unibody rocker panel?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Here's one way to think about it.... If your rockers are already gone - like rusted - gone, would it be better to have something there or nothing. I would not be afraid to use it for unibody myself but you'll probably hear some negative stuff from others. If you're really uncertain weld them in or have them welded in - hope that helps a bit :)

[@luigiprovencher]

How much would you charge someone for something like this?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Prices vary greatly from shop to shop - average is anything from 500-1000 per side and I'm thinking today it's probably more. I actually never did the estimates where I worked - was a body man. Now that I'm retired, I just take on work around town to make videos - once again, I'm not writing estimates :)

[@user-ui1lj8vi1y]

Good day sir and thank you, I've learned a ton from your videos. You've inspired the confidence in me to want to give this a go on my F150. A couple questions for you as I gather the tools and materials. On a 4 door supercrew will it require one each of the SEM 39757 per side? Also does the SEM come w the applicator gun? I found the SEM at a few sites but not finding the applicator/mixing gun. Thank you for any advice.

[@LakesideAutobody]

You'll need a gun like this - www.amazon.com/JES-Innovations-200-Component-Cartridge/dp/B07DFW75MN/ref=pd_lpo_sccl_3/146-7586400-7150432?pd_rd_w=mO6wx&content-id=amzn1.sym.116f529c-aa4d-4763-b2b6-4d614ec7dc00&pf_rd_p=116f529c-aa4d-4763-b2b6-4d614ec7dc00&pf_rd_r=DXA2FYDTNF4FQJWZRZ0V&pd_rd_wg=965pU&pd_rd_r=0cab0952-c6d6-4b28-91af-4fc1dcfbb11f&pd_rd_i=B07DFW75MN&th=1

[@user-ui1lj8vi1y]

@@LakesideAutobodythank you for the info

[@LakesideAutobody]

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[@terrychristle1477]

I’ve got an 2010 F150 crew cab. Need cab corners and rockers. Would this process work for both? Are these different panels that can be glued on, or is it just a different process with same new replacement parts? Great video!!

[@LakesideAutobody]

As long as you have a pinch weld at the top & bottom of the rocker (inner panel spot welded to outer) you can do it because the ends are lapped or can be lapped. Here's a video or two on more gluing - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYPPYoScoNd1m7s here's a follow up on repairs like this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXq2YoeYq5x-rNk Heck, after they are glued on it looks a ton better w/o even filling, priming and painting :)

[@terrychristle1477]

@@LakesideAutobody thanks for the reply and added information. Sounds like your pretty booked up for work?

[@LakesideAutobody]

​@@terrychristle1477 You're welcome Terry - I do have a lot going on right now but I'm focusing on slowing it down a bit :)

[@stevekovacs6250]

How does the glue hold up to heat?

[@LakesideAutobody]

It holds up fine to regular everyday heat such as the sun, etc. I have not experienced a situation where an exhaust side pipe is right next to the panel. If you need extreme heat protection JB Weld is the answer - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYPPYoScoNd1m7s Repair is still fine today - will do a follow up soon on it :)

[@stevekovacs6250]

The panel sits under the trunk area just above the exhaust system but with airflow. My only issue since its an air-cooled (Porsche 914) it might get hot sitting idling in traffic. In my post haste to finish other panels near by and paint them I forgot the important panel the heat shield above the exhaust pipe. If I weld it in I will damage the inside trunk fresh painted space. @@LakesideAutobody

[@LakesideAutobody]

Here's the data sheet on the SEM - semproducts.com/public/content/techsheets/TDS_dual-mix_structural_impact_resistant_adhesive_0719.pdf I would use JB Weld - I used that on an EGR return tube right out of the exhaust manifold and it held up for years until I sold the truck. It's resistant up to 550 degrees :)@@stevekovacs6250

[@stevekovacs6250]

Thank you for that! I will take your advise and just go that way. I continue to follow your site.@@LakesideAutobody

[@LakesideAutobody]

Let me know how it goes for you and ask ?s along the way if needed :)@@stevekovacs6250

[@jerryp2433]

Is this better than butt welding for corrosion? Doesn't using rivets leave a place for rust to build behind the panel?

[@LakesideAutobody]

In my opinion there are many methods better than butt welding. The reason? No one can guarantee that their weld or welds are water proof. On top of that they are claiming that they metal finish. That means there are pin holes right under the finish waiting for rust to bubble the paint. A glued seam is water tight guaranteed - it will last as long as a new panel. As for the rivets - you really don't need them. Moisture will never hang around that area. It will continue down the panel till it reaches the bottom. Make sure you provide for drainage so that the bottom of the panel can drain and stay dry.

[@jerryp2433]

@@LakesideAutobody does the glue block the drain channels at the bottom of the rocker? I think I see some people wedging a drill bit in there while spot welding to leave a gap for the water to drain. Do you just not apply the glue to that raised area?

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@jerryp2433 No glue in the raised areas, leave a gap - especially at the ends of the rocker, or drill your own drain holes. No drainage = rust/rot. Good thinking Jerry

[@jerryp2433]

@@LakesideAutobody I just bought an Eastwood 90 mig welder for $200 for my MGB...Now I'm considering doing the outer rockers using panel bonding. It just seems more rust proof than spot welds. Also heard it was stronger.

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@jerryp2433 To be honest MIG welding would probably be easier if you are decent at MIG welding but you're right you'll never have to worry about the seems if you glue it. Something to think about I guess - that's the fun of it 😊

[@jesusbrito59]

How much does a job like this cost? Just out of curiosity.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Prices vary greatly from shop to shop. $500 would be a low estimate for one side.

[@MERCNRY]

recessed rivets in the ends?

[@LakesideAutobody]

The rivets at the end of the rocker (box end) were done from the underside of the vehicle - in other words I put them in backwards or from the backside so that's actually the other side of the rivet that's showing. Hope that wasn't too confusing :)

[@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793]

No doubt you do top notch work, but it doesn't seem complete without a weld

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks John. Quebec sounds like a nice place to live :)

[@kevinarcher7701]

What tool are you using to cut that metal with.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Here's one thing I was using on the air hammer - shop.snapon.com/product/Slitting-Chisels/Air-Hammer-Slitting-Chisel/PHG61B and here's another tool used - www.harborfreight.com/1-4-quarter-inch-rear-exhaust-air-die-grinder-52847.html with this cut off wheel - www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/grinding-cutting-wheels/cut-off-wheels/3-in-x-116-in-x-38-in-metal-cut-off-wheels-10-pk-61354.html

[@kevinarcher7701]

@@LakesideAutobody sorry I should have been more precise. It was the first tool. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

[@LakesideAutobody]

@@kevinarcher7701 You're welcome Kevin - that tool is one of the most handy bits for the air hammer - make sure you get a good name brand one so it can take a beating :)

[@edwinschwank2446]

All because American car companies don't know how to build a truck that won't rust out....but now, Ford has finally figured it out. Buy a GM and see what it looks like in 5 years.....guess how much that truck will be worth compared to a Ford with aluminum body??? $5k? $8k?? So why buy a GM?? We won't talk about the cylinder delete issue and burning a quart of oil every thousand miles and ....what that does to the CAT??

[@uglyangelracing]

How much of the adhesive is required per side? I have an avalanche with all new sheet metal ready to go. Just wanted to order the 3M adhesive but not sure how much I need.

[@LakesideAutobody]

You'll do fine with one tube. I used a little under 1/2 tube for this project.

[@smaksymiv4950]

Love how that stuff can adhere aluminum to steel panels ( my inner rocker panels are made of an old diamond plate tool box ) stuck like glue ... understatement of all time.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

It's a godsend for Smyth Ute conversions, mine actually has a stiffer chassis because of it's use instead of the rivets supplied with the kit. Haha modern technology,you can actually weld aluminum to steel now 😀

[@caseyhart8348]

What is the name of the glue did u use

[@LakesideAutobody]

SEM Structural Impact Resistant Adhesive - Part Number 39757 All tools and materials is listed under the video description :)

[@J_R_Shop]

Excellent work! Thank you Jerry!

[@jordandodds7881]

Looks awesome! Would you be intetested in doing a Supercrew?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks Jordan. Right now I am sort of backed up till the fall. Sorry :)

[@jordandodds7881]

@@LakesideAutobody ok thank you!

[@stephenterpstra4902]

That panel bond was a waste of money if your gonna rivet it use 1 or other no need for both

[@LakesideAutobody]

Tell that to Boeing ☺ They build commercial jets with glue and rivets. Would you rather fly in a 747 built with only rivets or only glue?

[@Healthfighthunt]

NIce video mate, will help me with my VW bus repair. Recently got a rivet attachment for my drill/driver and it works really well and was not expensive.

[@LakesideAutobody]

That sounds like a cool tool. You can use 1/8" sheet metal screws instead - if you feel they will work better for you - you actually don't really need to fill those holes - just tap the seam down and fill :)

[@RaysLaughsAndLyrics]

Nice option indeed. Thanks for sharing your time and talent. Have a great weekend.

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome - you have a good weekend to my friend :)

[@martymurphy9627]

Thank you, Jerry. Another great informative video.

[@LakesideAutobody]

You're welcome Marty :)

[@brucesheehe6305]

Amazing adhesive technology - used in new construction in autos and aircraft too.Just like Brylcream - a little dab will do ya! Jerry will save your ride!

[@LakesideAutobody]

Thanks for the support Bruce - haven't seen or heard of that stuff in a while :)

[@closertothetruth9209]

nice tutorial, although this glue is pricey in my part of the world its still quicker and easier and no warping

[@LakesideAutobody]

You can even use JB WELD (original) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYPPYoScoNd1m7s

[@flap0000]

Aren't you worried about all the bare metal left in there accelerating the rusting process?

[@LakesideAutobody]

Not at all. Drainage of a panel is key and if you want to see how to protect any panel from further rust new or old check out this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bonEi3WvbKx2baM

[@73superglide62]

Glue new wave 4 DIY

[@captainjohnh9405]

How much working time do you have with the glue, and what size rivets are you using? Thanks!

[@LakesideAutobody]

You have plenty of time - like 2-3 hours. I used 3/16" x 3/8" - 3/8 is the length of the rivet. There's no worries at all about the stuff hardening up on you. It will take overnight for it to set up and allow you to continue working on the vehicle.

[@PatriceRobert20]

Pardon my ignorance, but, when glueing, do you use full rocker or slip on? I never done that before. Thank you.

[@LakesideAutobody]

Full rocker. You can get these panels from places like millsupply.com or raybuck.com You can also weld these in place if you prefer :)

[@PatriceRobert20]

Thank you very much Sir. Since i'm in Québec, i will order full rocker locally. I already received the glue gun and will be buying SEM glue and rocker.

[@boblowe-mi9tf]

are you using aluminum or steel rivets? thank you

[@LakesideAutobody]

Aluminum. They will not have an adverse effect though 'cause they will never see moisture. You can take them out actually too if concerned - the holes will not cause issues. Thanks for watching :)

[@johnbarker5009]

That makes a really fine repair.

[@camarogtz1392]

Nice