How to Identify your Shopsmith

[@dottyjyoung]

Thank you for this. I'm a woodworker & eBay seller who LOVES making space-saving furniture. Now, I've got a ton of friends who are taking up woodworking in small spaces, & I'm frequently finding these for them. :)

[@mikepierce4216]

I was hoping to hear you discuss the first version, 10 E, and second version, 10 ER.

[@choochoo3985]

Back in the day, Shop Smith had the Saw Dust sessions, but under new management they closed the stores and that ended the best advertising program they ever had. It was the reason I bought my Mark 5 and later in the 90's upgraded it to the Model 510. Wow, when you but the extended tubes and out feed table you can do almost anything.

[@ProtoNeoVintage]

I just moved my Dad's Shopsmith V up to my workshop. I am now the proud owner of a 1954 "Greenie". Now begins the long slog of reconditioning it and ensuring it is safe and functional. Not easy since I want to start using it yesterday. :)

[@janeberlekanui3617]

I am in the same boat with a 1952 ER10!

[@acman0926]

I just bought a 10E for $300 with all attachments, in good condition. Im going to build a bench for it tomorrow and work on restoring it to new again. Nothing like owning a machine from the early 50's.

[@matthewcurrie5963]

Charles Spalding. I also have a 10e but I’ve heard that they don’t make spare parts for it anymore which sucks because mine doesn’t have a lot of the parts. And it’s rusty. But I am working on it and I’ll be re wiring it tomorrow because all the wires are cracked. I also got mine for free, one of my buddies just gave it to me

[@bunyipal]

I have a 10 ER 1952 model, it was bought new by my father with many accessories which are all still in great condition. I think it is an excellent piece of machinery, I get a lot of satisfaction out of it because it is so versatile. Also has the after market jointer attachment. !!

[@janeberlekanui3617]

I just inherited the SAME, a 1052 ER10, from my dad. He used it until the day he died! It is somewhat dirty. Any thoughts on how to clear and get it running smoothly again? It has been in my garage since 2010. I am ready to use it now (retiring!).

[@bunyipal]

@@janeberlekanui3617 They are very well made, you should get plenty out of it once it is restored and cleaned, some pics would be handy to see what condition it is in.

[@rondavis6017]

I bought mine in 1982 and I still use the lathe all the time for making my pens I don’t use it for much else but it’s the best lathe I’ve ever had. I make 50to60 pens every year and use the belt sander once in a while

[@JR-qz3zt]

Thank you! I've pretty much worked with metal for the last 30 years. I wasn't much into woodworking, however, 6 years ago, I bought a house and all the tools the amazing old guy had. Tons of woodworking stuff including a Shopsmith. I only wanted the metal working stuff but, I got an offer of a lifetime. I just forked out the extra $. I haven't regretted it. I kinda want to try it out. It has tons of attachments. I was thinking about selling it to pay for better metalworking tools. I'm glad I didn't. Been watching a ton of woodworking videos lately. Everyone makes it look easy. I know better. However, it could add to my art making abilities. I'm totally doing more research. The resin stuff blows my mind. I used to paint cars so, mixing colors totally fired me up.

[@MyGrowthRings]

J R It is a fun hobby that can take your talents in many directions. Enjoy the ride.

[@arthilliker3721]

I have a chart from SS that has the list of SERIAL #'s and tell you what year your machine is. Mine is a 1984 model. The serial # is located on the high speed output shaft guard cover. Really surprised Reid didn't give that info seeing that he is the guru on SS.

[@2pugman]

Bought my Shopsmith in 1977 @ $1,100. I still use it ! Great machine !

[@dinagiolo3091]

thats alot of money for 77'. 2019, ebay has almost new ones for 1,200!

[@richhuddleston73]

@@dinagiolo3091 But Dina what does a Brand New one cost 2019??

[@arthilliker3721]

@@richhuddleston73, almost a full $4000 !! I paid $2300 for my '84 brand new ....

[@rickshick8544]

I have a ShopSmith that predates the Model V. The cover plate says it is a Model ER s/n 51672 and its maximum blade diameter is 8 inches. It was bought in the early to mid 1950s. I still use it some but fight endlessly with the fence.

[@kentonpriestley3173]

I have a 50 th anniversary Mark 5 never used, brand new. Dad got it and had a stroke and ended his projects before they really got started. sat in his barn for years now mine. I have had it a couple years and I thought I start to learn to use it or chuck it.

[@johnanthony2545]

I have the Brownie and a grey. Brownie in best condition yet needs over haul bearings and such. Good video thank you.

[@tomblain7753]

Very helpful for a Someone looking to purchase the first Shopsmith. Thank you

[@alanp9081]

Ok, just to clarify, the only way to update my 500 table saw to use the modern guards is to replace the table and the carriage, etc, correct? I found this one a month ago, wanted one forever, and it's like new. I don't think it had been used much at all...the bandsaw blade was inside out with the teeth facing up.... I found a speed reducer just yesterday online and got that ordered for turning bowls and such. So I started seeing how the tablesaw fit together, and it's the aluminum lower and upper guards, and i don't like that setup at all. I doubt I'll use it with that setup😢 Looking at the shopsmith site, it looks way too expensive to convert. Thanks! AlanP

[@alejandromarasco4251]

Dear Doug. My name is Alejandro and I am from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I got my Shop Smith three years ago and am only now able to get it up and running. It is difficult for me to put it into operation since many of its parts are separated from the main body of the machine. I would like to ask you, if possible, if you could please indicate me some other link where I can see the assembly of the different pieces that make it up. Thanking you in advance, I say goodbye with a very cordial greeting.

[@MrMarkpeggy]

My Growth Rings you tube channel may be helpful also.

[@tonesantos2063]

Onde posso comprar essa ferramenta aqui no Brasil ?

[@mrfind1]

Does the 510 have enough to turn wood like white oak? Thank you and sorry for double post.

[@mrfind1]

Doug I have a 510 and the speed dial does not turn true. All runs good but is something about to fly apart?

[@seacoast6351]

This is the closest technology to something that would exist in fallout.

[@dennissmith4981]

I've been a Shopsmith owner for 18+ years and have really benefited by growing my wood shop over this period of time. With my last upgrade I took my Mark V 510 to a Mark VII 520 and with approximately 250 S/F of usable space, there's no possible way that I could have these 7-tools incorporated in the 520 as stand-alone pieces of equipment; I would need 4 X as much space. And, with the addition of 240v. service I ran last year, my Shopsmith is performing at top notch efficiency. My 240v. "New Air Heater' has really made it a comfortable wood shop as well - highly recommended. That being said, I really do have to disagree with your comment about Shopsmith Customer service; it is really lacking. Without going into particulars, I'll leave it at that. Suffice to say, I've really had some painful experiences. Still, I love my Shopsmith and can't imagine being without it! I'll just weather the customer service shortcomings.

[@johnstrassberger3969]

I've had my shop Smith for 40+ years. Over the last few year's it's been freezing up at the pulley system blowing the breaker. Lowes is offering a upgrade to the 7 series. Hope it works.

[@garylivingston9052]

I have one from late 40's-early 50's and unless someone has painted it, the headstock is dark grey?

[@alaskanhunter7622]

Doug, I have a question. I am looking at buying ShopSmith Mark V, Model 510 with a Band saw, 6" Belt sander, and a Dust Collector Model DC3300 all for $1600.00 is this a good price?

[@DougReidshopsmithdoug]

If they are in good condition, that sounds fair.

[@alaskanhunter7622]

The model I saw looks like the one you have pictured on here, there was zero rust, it had been maintained,cleaned, and had quit a few upgraded pieces...he was the original owner and bought it in 1997... from what I saw it looked like it was almost brand new, lightly used.

[@janeberlekanui3617]

The person on the cover of the 1955 owners manual sure does look like my dad--pipe and all! Is there a way to find out if it IS him. He has passed on and in fact, I have his 1952 ER10 in my garage now. Who might know who the person is in that photo/

[@Bettinasisrg]

Wow, this was great, I'm wondering what a fair price for the "gray-stock" 1985+ would be at an auction. There's one at our local auction that's at $84 currently. Either way this was a wonderful video, thank you!

[@wingsley]

A couple of years ago, my father bought a complete ShopSmith at an estate sale. I believe it is a complete system. Since I helped him transport this behemoth (and substantial collection of attachments) to the house, we stored it on a fully sheltered back porch. I have a few questions: (1: Is there a way to review the ShopSmith unit fully to determine if there are any components missing? (2: Does this machine require any special lubrication or other cleaning? (3: Is there a way to install substantial retractable casters on the machine so I can be easily moved and stored? (4: Is there some kind of dolly mechanism that can be used to transport a ShopSmith outside (on uneven terrain) it needs to be relocated? Thank you.

[@LoneWolf-yp2mo]

All of the answers to your questions are pretty much YES ! Almost anything and everything can be found on EBay or Craigs list ... even Amazon, unless you want to buy brand new from Shop Smith. There are videos on where and how to lube and do maintenance on your machine provided by Doug right here on YOU TUBE.. The only way I know of to move your machine over uneven terrain would be to build a dolly to fit underneath the existing casters.

[@shaboo2]

The dolly system I bought from SS years ago had always worked flawlessly. It's a must! As far as the other qs u asked, the single best way to understand this great machine is to get hold of the owners manual that is UNIQUE to your model #. It has lessons, examples, everything. It can't be done in a day, but if you follow it front to back, you'll never, ever, forget the lessons. And you'll use the knowledge you gleam on all sorts of other brand equipment. The single biggest piece of advice I can give you is to make sure you do this for proper alugnment\setup of your machine. BC all the measurements and angles are basically transferable to all their tools, you'll find that it will save you a lot of time and trouble down the road. DONT skip the setup!

[@tantaluss68]

im looking at one to buy and the man part of the motor of the headstock to the right is gray and the smaller cover on the left is a tan color like the right side of the picture you posted but like I said the main part to the right is gray any guess at what year this is

[@richardlongoria9724]

Doug I just purchased a 510 that was upgrade with some 520 parts. The only thing is the person I got it from told me it had no bottom guard. I saw the reviews about the new style to buy and was not happy at all too many hole to drill on a new product. Ebay and craigslist had springs or something else missing. Desperate to buy one do you sell this bottom part one of the two I received the collar was broke so I cannot screw it to the motor it will not stay? Sorry message is do long and also if I buy mark 7 motor can I use it 110/120 I do not have 220 plug in my house? Richard San Antonio TX

[@grahamdugan]

Just bought mine today!! I am new to woodworking but I am anxious to stop wasting my money on "wood" products and begin actually making something for myself.

[@marvinelder3828]

I have a Shopsmith model 510 with 4 "jointer, 11" bandsaw, and crosscut table. I think I purchased it in 1992 as close as I can figure. I have someone possible interested in buying it since I have not used it for several years. Can I put some kind of dollar amount on it, or do I just take a good offer for it. I seen one on ebay for 900.00, but no idea how old it is.

[@DougReidshopsmithdoug]

Marvin Elder I would ask the question on the Facebook Shopsmith owners’ group.

[@anthonylandrum63]

Why not mention serial number ranges to indicate year model?

[@blargkliggle1121]

I recently found a jointer attachment for mine, unfortunately I found it with my ankle. I love my great grandfather but my god was he a pack rat, I still find myself scratching my head over why he had a box full of pot handles.

[@lwoodt1]

Doesn't everyone ? Enjoy the hunt .

[@blargkliggle1121]

@@lwoodt1 that's how I started looking at it, and also as his last prank. I just found the firetruck siren he would put in the yard to scare the neighbors. I sure do miss that crazy old man...

[@lwoodt1]

I understand. Like they say,,, you don't know what you got till its gone.Glad you have the memorys...

[@amacan]

One model that you missed is the Shopsmith Mark VII, not to be confused with the new model upgrade Mark 7. The Model VII had a fundamentally different base, looking like an inverted letter T, and having 4 way tubes for use by both headstock and accessories.

[@markbeiser]

I think they are trying to forget the Mark VII ever happened...

[@petefarr2547]

I have a 53 Greenie that has hairline cracks in the housing at the Gilmer gear. Can this be repaired with a weld? thanks.

[@DougReidshopsmithdoug]

Pete, I don’t know; I’d check with a local machine shop...or ask the question on the owners forum. Shopsmith. Net Or take the plunge and get a new Mark 7.

[@LoneWolf-yp2mo]

Keep an eye on EBay !! I have seen MANY parts on there for ALL the models of Shop Smith. I have bought a LOT of items for my machine. Happy hunting !!

[@steveskouson9620]

Doug, Cast Iron? Didn't Hans make a cast iron Shopsmith, too? (I KNOW he did, because I've had 1 or 6.) steve

[@DougReidshopsmithdoug]

+Steve Skouson Yes, the 10ER, 1947-1953.

[@MikeNutter-e9s]

My Shop-smith doesn't look like any of these, I called Shop-smith and gave them the numbers and they didn't have that number on file. She told me that my machine should be from 1947-1950.

[@michaeldean6313]

I have a Shop Smith and the badge says Model 10ER, the motor looks nothing like your photos. Any idea on year?

[@brentbiegel869]

I have a green Mark 5. Shopsmith told me it was the third oldest they knew about. Yours is older! It is the type they sold before the mark V. I don't know if parts are available, but maybe.

[@timmills3823]

I also have a 10 er... not a big fan trying to dump it for 150 bucks

[@steveskouson9620]

Michael, as a guess, 48 to 53. Doug may not admit to it, but the Model 10 (E and ER) is the best lathe or both versions of drill-press. Tim, where are you located? If I can't get it, someone else can. $150 is dirt cheap, depending on what you have. steve

[@eduobando1011]

Is it possible to have information or tutorialin Spanish? I have a machine here in Colombia. RESPONDER

[@jimminee9661]

I have an "OLD" and I mean older than old Shopsmith. I got it because I was more interested to use just the lathe portion. It has the old belt drive and is rather crusty/ It still runs and I have restored other machines and When I clean it up I am sure it will run fine nd true. This machine is bolted to a wooden stand. How do I Identify this machine For parts

[@LoneWolf-yp2mo]

Call Shop Smith customer service, I hear they are excellent help.

[@shopsmithwoodworker7190]

Excellent!

[@eduobando1011]

Is it possible to have information or tutorialin Spanish? I have a machine here in Colombia.

[@dannyeaster1976]

Was a total shop and shop smith alike?

[@MyGrowthRings]

Good question. The Total Shop and several other similar tools were Taiwanese knock-offs of an older version of the Shopsmith Mark V model 500. They were sold in the 1980's & 90's but have all disappeared. The internal components are not interchangeable but some of the accessories were interchangeable. Scott

[@WelshRabbit]

I own 2 early Mark Vs upgraded to the 510 version, and a TotalShop, the Taiwan clone. On the surface, they look identical, but there are some differences, enough that genuine Shopsmith parts and accessories, and especially upgrades will almost, but not quite fit correctly. The TotalShop and other clones were made using lots of steel. The Shopsmith uses lots of die cast aluminum. The Shopsmith is strong and heavy where it needs to be and light when and where it does not need to be. That makes the clones seem beefier, but the practical result is that they are just heavier and harder to move and to work with when changing functions. "Under the hood," there is practically no compatibility in the headstock. Of my 3 machines, the TotalShop has been most plagued by rust despite regular waxing and lubrication. TotalShop has been discontinued for about 20 years, but you can still buy parts, accessories, and upgrades from Shopsmith.

[@dlbro8460]

Thanks for the video 👍

[@martianshoes]

My widowed sister has a Shop Smith for sale in the DeKalb section of ATL. It is an older model and has not see too much use, the price would be very reasonable. Contact me here.

[@John-zn4lp]

There already was a Mark 7 made for a short time in the 60's. I think someone at the new Shopsmith company just decided to make an updated version of it. They should have named the new one Mark 7 Pro or Mark 7 710, out of respect for the old one. Give credit where credit is due.

[@wickandvessel6346]

Is the ShopSmith company still in business?

[@MyGrowthRings]

Yes. Visit Shopsmith.com or contact Doug at [e-mail]

[@darrinbega302]

Is there any other way to look up witch one it is like the serial number I think it's one of the 5s but not sure got for free so I'm not complaining 😂

[@MrMarkpeggy]

Yes, you can go to the Shopsmith website and look it up. Or you can call them and they will look it up for you.

[@roberthermsen724]

I have a shop smith that was my dads. But I don’t not plan on using it. So if someone would like to buy please get in contact with me.

[@davidj.kester7979]

I miss miny. my dad pass and my famly sold all out from under me. im older butt I do not reed or right to will so I was all around my dad. butt any way

[@frankrowell1531]

i have a shopsmith for 400 i pay for it

[@davidwilbur1833]

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[@seymourwrasse3321]

too high to fight with a 4x8 sheet of 3./4 plywood