How To Improve Your Bait Fishing Setups and Catch More Trout | Fishing with Rod

It's urban lake trout fishing season and here is a video on how to improve your float and bottom fishing setups so you can catch more rainbow trout!
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00:00 Introduction
01:00 Spinning rods
02:57 Spinning reels
04:37 Float fishing setup
10:39 Bottom-up fishing setup
14:38 Final words
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[@FishingwithRod]

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[@ryanbarton6739]

Iv been using size 2 slow death hooks for trolling for trout. The name sounds bad but I only use them when I'm trolling for trout and they're great. Iv even caught many kokany one the same hooks with a gulp minnow. I know you are more conservative but have you tried or heard of these hooks? I forgot the company that makes them but it's a common company. They were designed for walleye I think.

[@ryanbarton6739]

Great video 👍 I want to try vertical jigging for trout and kokany this year

[@ryanbarton6739]

But iv had most luck trolling and float fishing for trout 👍👍

[@brandondaniel6253]

Why does my artificial bait always fall off the hook in the water and it never makes the hook float?

[@RossFelling]

Me watching this every Spring... 👀

[@datona1]

I love this how to video Rod! Thank you

[@brosi]

thank you for your informative content, really helped me. keep going

[@FishingwithRod]

Happy to hear that!

[@kevinsam3]

Thanks for the instructional vid on rigging up for trout Rod

[@Tyler-qp7yk]

Thanks rod, awesome video for the upcoming season, definitely useful

[@FishingwithRod]

Thanks Tyler!

[@MegaNafo]

Nice , I love your trout fishing videos.

[@FishingwithRod]

Thanks 👍

[@yongsoochang8722]

Thanks Rod, always informative as usual. I hope to be out soon and start fishing, just waiting for some vacation time coming up!

[@FishingwithRod]

You're welcome! Thanks for checking it out.

[@beepseatsfindingfoodtreasu8756]

Thank you Rod. that cleared up a lot of questions. nice video.

[@FishingwithRod]

Good to hear that it is helpful! :)

[@MrDirtDive]

Rod you are a cool dude and I really find all of your videos informative and can’t wait to watch them. One of these days you and me are going to trout fish. Keep up the great content my friend, all my steelhead setups are based on everything I have watched in your videos, knots included

[@FishingwithRod]

Thank you Robert. 🙂

[@minkos61]

Great Info Rod ! Might give the bottom up method a try this year .

[@FishingwithRod]

Thanks Ernie! 🙂

[@senhdang9305]

Thanks Rod, I am going to fish for trout this year but have never done any freshwater fishing before so this video was very helpful!

[@FishingwithRod]

That's great! I'm happy to hear that. Thanks for watching!

[@blongyang5547]

Thanks very informative 👍

[@FishingwithRod]

Thanks for watching!

[@shermanou1337]

That's a good way to put it, tennis ball with a role. I keep try to explain to people why I use 2lb test when I use 1/32 lure.

[@andykjohnsonjohnson7622]

Another great video Rod 🎣🎣👍. Especially for people fishing from the shore 😉 . You can also use a bubble float, with 3 to 4 ft of 3lb mono line to a dry fly. Wrks pretty good, when trout are sipping fly's off the surface 😉

[@FishingwithRod]

Thanks Andy!

[@DT-fk9ow]

Thanks Rod for the video. Very informative. Curious to know your thoughts on 4 piece rods vs the popular 2 piece rods. I am looking at spinning rods for trout fishing in lakes from shore and noticed that there are travel rod options that are convenient for travel and storage. Wanted to know if there is a difference in feel, durability, etc. Any insight or experience? If there is really no difference, I am wondering why 2 piece are more popular given the travel rods are easier for travelling.

[@shelleyszulinszky359]

Great videos Rod. You would love a slip float. I can fish 2ft to 13ft is my max. The deeper you go the bigger the challenge, but so much fun. I always use flies but bait is good too. I also grease my line so I can rip it off the water for faster hookset. Good fishing to you. Our ice will be on for awhile yet.

[@FishingwithRod]

Thanks Shelley, the float I was showing in the video is a slip float actually, we just call it a sliding float, same thing. Once awhile I'd hang a chironomid up to 20ft under the float instead of fly fishing. :)

[@raymaiden958]

Thanks for this video. I found your channel via Kitty Kanhoffen's channel. I must say BC is stunning.

[@FishingwithRod]

You’re welcome. That’s a dead channel now since I produced all those videos. There’ll be more here in the future. Glad you find them useful.

[@miadeaur287]

Rod, you have been my mentor in all that is fishing for many years, now. Thank you for everything that you do......for your great videos......and for being yourself. You are the most genuine and amazing soul on this Planet. I always enjoy watching you and all that you genuinely share with us. Now, most of us are fishing from the shore, and most of the time the fish is away from the shore. A 6 or 7 feet rod would not cast as far as a 9 or 10 feet rod, hence, a longer rod should be recommended over the 6 or 7 feet rods. On top of that, line and weight are very important, but, the most important part of it all is CORRECT CASTING technique, don’t you think? You can have a rod made out of gold, if you do not cast it properly, then, it is useless. 5 % of the people fishing out there cast PROPERLY with the remaining 95% not having a clue that their cast is incorrectly executed. Hint, hint, hint Rod.........teach us how The Master does it.

[@FishingwithRod]

I did mention that I use a 9ft rod for casting when float fishing in the video. A 6ft rod is more than plenty if you are casting a bottom setup, and the choices of lines and weights will make a difference on the casting distance which is the focus of this video. As for the actual technique etc, that’d be in another video at the lake, which I mentioned I’d do later as well.

[@miadeaur287]

Thank you for your quick reply Rod. Yes you did mention. I now remember and agree with what you said. Keep up the great work and keep those awesome content coming. Have a joyous time on the H2O

[@Detroph]

I know this is a reply to your video but if you want i can give you some info on how we europeans catch trout, we tend to go for stocked ponds but a few techniques could be applied to lakes and or small streams :)! We tend to fish with wayyyy lighter stuff

[@TheTrueFinnster]

Hope to see you out on St. Mary's Lake on Salt Spring this year. Cheers!

[@FishingwithRod]

Yes! Actually, I have been planning a trip there this spring. 😉 Thinking around early May to coincide with both the trout and bass fishing, or late June for bass in deeper water.

[@TheTrueFinnster]

@@FishingwithRod Sounds great! I might give it a go tomorrow, I just can't wait any longer. Quick question, do you eat the perch in St. Mary's? You can load a fish stringer full in an hour. No exaggeration at all.

[@FishingwithRod]

The last time I fished St Mary Lake was 2010. 😮 Back then the abundance of perch was still not that high. They were there, but you had to really target them to get some. I hope that hasn't impacted the bass and trout fishing too much. I'd eat them I think, it's a big water body and I'm not too concerned about pollutions etc.

[@Outdoorswithmike]

Love the video rod we should go fishing in June around the 20th in northern Alberta into the Northwest Territories territories. At Fort Providence very good fishing around that time N.W.T 👋🏽👍🏽

[@FishingwithRod]

Hey Mike, that sounds pretty awesome actually. I am in fact always looking for opportunities to learn and celebrate indigenous traditions in our videos and actually have been talking about fishing in the NWT. Something to consider for next year I think as I am already booked up for projects this year. What fish species are you targeting around Fort Providence during that time of the year?

[@Outdoorswithmike]

@@FishingwithRod Went up there with dad one time like to go back and fish the same area targeting Walleye Pike and Grayling And I live near high-level Alberta family of five daughters and wife Avril just trying to be myself and teach some traditional ways and others can teach me also In the comments. There’s a airport in Hay River NWT and the fishing hole it’s not far McKenzie river and great slave lake and I think they do commercial fishing there also and there’s a fish plant

[@FishingwithRod]

Great! Well I'll look into it some more in the near future. :)

[@kylehorner3117]

Would love to be able to hit a lake with you amd have you show me some tricks I’m local to Vancouver area also

[@Disturbedroximo]

hey rod! is there any type of attractant that you apply to the deli shrimp to make them more appealing for bites? thanks again

[@FishingwithRod]

I personally add Pautzke Bait's Fire Cure (red) to my shrimp for a few reasons. One is to cure them and toughen them up. It also gives them additional krill scent. I like red so they stand out more in the water.

[@Pray4Mojo1]

My favorite trout rod is a ugly stik elite ultralight. It's 1 piece, 5ft. Coupled with a Okuma ALS 50 spinning reel. I use 8lb daiwa jbraid or 5lb power pro in crimson red. For floats, I got small. I like the black Raven steelhead floats in around 2.5 to 6 grams.

[@miadeaur287]

How far do you usually cast with your set up?

[@williamcooke6056]

Also a big fan of the small Raven Floats! I use larger ones for steelhead/salmon

[@Pray4Mojo1]

@@miadeaur287 pretty dang far for a 5' rod. The light braid really helps. Not sure exactly, but when I'm using ultralight, I'm almost always fishing the shoreline. Within 10 yards. You'd be surprised how close fish are from the shore, especially the fraser.

[@hoopster22]

Great video Rod! I find with my 2-6lb rod the doughbait always falls off when I cast. Any tips on what I'm doing wrong/how to improve? Thank you.

[@FishingwithRod]

It could be a variety of reasons really. The rod might be too fast/stiff, the cast might be too hard and causing it to fall off, or the bait has gotten too soft (too much moisture in it) so you can’t form a firmer dough ball. Try to air dry it out just slightly.

[@KeithMK]

When I use dough bait, I use a small treble hook to keep the bait on.

[@TelosBudo]

In a previous video, you used a 1/8 ounce Tungsten Slider Weight for the float setup. Do you increase the weight size in choppy water? Also, what is the weight size for the bottom-up setup you use?

[@FishingwithRod]

The weight for the float does not change, you'd need that same amount to keep the float balanced right. For my bottom setup, I don't know the exact weight being used, but anything around 1/2oz is probably good. Use what your rod can handle.

[@TelosBudo]

Does there need to be a bead or knot above the sliding weight or can it slide freely up the line, entirely?

[@FishingwithRod]

It can slide freely all the way up, but it’s not going to go too far. Gravity is going to keep that from happening as soon as you start reeling it in.

[@nicsye12]

I got some of that firebait but I find its so gooey, like not firm enough, so by the second time I cast it out, it disintegrates and I may not even know that I'm fishing a bare hook while it sits out there

[@FishingwithRod]

It shouldn't be gooey for sure. The ones I have in this video are quite firm and the balls stay pretty intact even after one or two casts.

[@evaristosanchez8677]

What size is the weight? On the slider for a bottom method

[@FishingwithRod]

The size of the weight depends on how far you want to cast and how deep the water is. The further you want to cast, the deeper the water is, the bigger the weight is. That said, I generally would stick to under 1oz due to the light tackle being used.

[@cuzihungry]

Trout fishing; should I get 4lb or 6lb Flouro for 6'6" Light rod? Or should I get a braid with a leader line? I'm fishing from shore

[@FishingwithRod]

Go with 6lb. 4lb fluorocarbon is really thin. Since you're fishing from shore, a little thicker leader would prevent potential snap-offs.

[@davidg2113]

More than the size of the hook, I’d be curious on which hook shapes you prefer, especially for worms or dough.

[@FishingwithRod]

Yeah I should have mentioned that. I use Owner SSW hooks. Some people use the bait holder hooks with the slightly longer shank, especially for using worms, but my preference is just the general purpose hooks.

[@davidg2113]

Thanks, Rod! I appreciate your videos and have learned a lot from you over the years. Cheers!

[@FishingwithRod]

You're very welcome David. Thanks for checking out the video! 🙂

[@tigerhu8170]

Hey Rod, what rod and reel would you recommend for trout? because I need a new fishing rod but don't know what to get.

[@FishingwithRod]

Did you check out the segment on rods and reels in this video? It gives the recommendations you’re looking for.

[@tigerhu8170]

​@@FishingwithRod I did, but is their a cheaper reel that you recommended?

[@tigerhu8170]

Also the 2-6 pound test Shimano Clarus rod and shimano stratix 1000 would work for most trout/types of trout fishing right?

[@FishingwithRod]

My recommendation is to spend the most you can afford for the reel. When I started out, I was doing just fine with a $40 spinning reel which lasted for many seasons (I still have the reel actually, after 30 years...). The drag is not as smooth as the more expensive reel, but it gets the job done just fine. You're spending on experience. The more expensive the reel is, the smoother it is, the less likely it'd break down, the less frequent you'd need to maintain, etc. I guess money does buy happiness sometimes. ;) That said, one reel I recommend is Shimano Nasci. It doesn't break the bank, but it's a really durable reel. Nasci 2500 would be a awesome reel for salmon, trout, bass, etc. I have two of those in fact, and I use them for the species mentioned above.

[@williamcooke6056]

Great video, Rod! I'm going to pick up some tungsten.

[@FishingwithRod]

Awesome!

[@TelosBudo]

Why does the weight need to slide on the bottom-up setup?

[@FishingwithRod]

The sliding weight is preferred so you could detect the bites better at the rod tip. If a fixed weight is used, the fish would have to pull that weight before pulling any of the main line, so there would be a delay on the bites being seen at the rod tip. If it is a sliding weight, then the line could slide through the weight freely when the fish pulls, therefore you'd see the bites sooner.

[@daveharris3904]

Where do you get the 8 and 6 gram float as well as the weight? Do you have a shop that you suggest to get the fishing supplies from?

[@FishingwithRod]

If you are around Vancouver, you should be able to find them at most of the stores. DNE brought them in last September to all of the retailers that carry their floats. I'd phone ahead first to see if they got any.

[@daveharris3904]

@@FishingwithRod excellent, thank you. Yeah, i live in New Westminster. I will check out some stores this weekend. I am excited to get back out there!

[@FishingwithRod]

I'd try Sea Run in Coquitlam or First Light Tackle in Burnaby to see they are in stock. :) Good luck!

[@dmak2828]

Pacific Angler on E Broadway also a good bet.

[@FishingwithRod]

Dave, I had a chat with Steven at First Light Tackle in Burnaby yesterday and he said that he doesn't have these DNE floats at the store right now, but he does have other similar floats in these sizes available. :)