How To Install a Recessed Header in a 1950s Ranch

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@tomacquilano1304 10 ай бұрын

Nice work! I'll be installing a 24' two ply 14" LVL next week in our ranch house. Almost identical to this one. Uncharted territory for me. Hope it goes as well as your project. Thanks for posting!

@ONeill_Nolan 2 ай бұрын

How’d it go

@tomacquilano1304 2 ай бұрын

@@ONeill_Nolan Great!

@ONeill_Nolan 2 ай бұрын

@@tomacquilano1304 good man. I got the exact same project. Taking out a 16 foot load bearing wall to open the space up. only concern Is cutting all of the rafters correctly.

@tomacquilano1304 2 ай бұрын

@@ONeill_Nolan Open up the ceiling the width of a sheet of drywall by the length of your beam, Support the ceiling on each side with temporary 2x4 framing, use a laser to mark the width of your beam plus 1/8" -1/4" and make all of your cuts. Make sure you have support at each end that goes all the way to a solid foundation ie, basement floor, load bearing beam or foundation wall. I would also spend the money to have a structural engineer size the beam and provide drawings and documentation. I paid $1100 for that insurance. When reconnecting the joists, take into account the thickness of the joist hangers so that you don't end up with a hump in the ceiling.

@samuelthedude 11 ай бұрын

Great video. I wish this showed a sketch in section. It looks liked there were some diagnol cripples holding up the ridge board. What were those?

@neilaxelrod5872 9 ай бұрын

Did you have a structural engineer size that beam? Seems undersized and not put together correctly. With a double or triple LVL (you used lumber), you would use structural wood screws in offset positions.

@SpiritofaHandyman 9 ай бұрын

I would always recommend getting a structural engineer to sign off on a structural beam even for a DIY project

@311mdub 2 жыл бұрын

Is your house on slab or do you have a basement? The sketchy thing about that is if you have a basement and try that you could easily do some Serious damage transferring that load outside the load bearing beam beneath it. I would also personally used hanger straps too, so they hang on the header as well as the side nailed in.. might I ask where you got instruction to do this?

@311mdub 2 жыл бұрын

Also, at the end of the header beam, did you add more vertical support for the extra load? I didn’t see but is your new header larger (thickness, not length) than your last? You have to take into consideration you’re adding a substantial amount of weight, you’d have to look at the load capacity of the 2x10 or whatever you used to see if 2 of them nailed together will hold that dead load over a 16’ span..

@michaelc9248 Жыл бұрын

3 guys, 2 days...NICE!!

@Loonypapa Жыл бұрын

FYI for anyone coming to this page, on paper a double 2x12, 16 feet long, supporting an attic floor, fails for moment and deflection.

@thelouiebrand 10 ай бұрын

I had this done and they used 2 two 2x10’s for a 24’ span. Guess what, my ceiling almost fell down when they removed the jacks. They then ran for the hills and never came back. Now there’s a 3 ply 12” lvl. That’s what it needed but I had no idea. The funny part of the first guys charged me the same as the second ones who did it correctly.

@tomacquilano1304 2 ай бұрын

@@thelouiebrand That's why I hired a structural engineer to size the beam. I had a 24' span using 2 ply 14" LVL's. Our house is a ranch so it's mostly just supporting the ceiling. Came out perfect! Solid as a rock.

@kevink5183 20 күн бұрын

There are span calculators online. I always overbuild anyways

@Loonypapa 20 күн бұрын

@@kevink5183 span calculators don't address bearing or shear, only bending and deflection. Be very careful.

@draf8517 2 жыл бұрын

if i did this without permit would the town find out?

@michaeldepow6663 2 жыл бұрын

Not it you don't tell them. But when it's time to sell house the buyer could possibly find out. Just say it was like that when you bought it. I just did a job like this and the inspector made me get an engineered drawing and plan. The engineer made us at a flinch plate which was 3/8 solid steel through bolted to 2- 2x12's. The drawing was 1500 and the steel was 650 plus bolts, washers and nuts. Total cost plus my labor was 7500

@Loonypapa Жыл бұрын

If you sold your house and a structural engineer like me was called in to inspect (I'm also a home inspector), I would find this in a heartbeat and make you redo it properly with a permit.

@draf8517 Жыл бұрын

@@Loonypapa how would you know if it was original or new though?

@Loonypapa Жыл бұрын

@@draf8517 The span would tell me if it was prescriptive or not. The floor plan would tell a story about whether it was original, either from my library of floor plans or a knock on a neighbor's door who lived in the same model house in the neighborhood. A phone call to the building department would tell me if there was ever a permit pulled.

@Rexmorgan687 11 ай бұрын

@@Loonypapa you know how a someone is an engineer? They will tell you they are one lol. From a fellow civil (transportation focus) engineer. I had the same thought looking at this particular modification...