How to Install Compensator Toe Arm on Civic or Integra

[@SgtSnazzerino]

Thanks dude, this helped a lot. I'm actually just replacing my old compensator arms on mine with OE spec ones cuz the old ones are all rotted lol.

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

That works!

[@SgtSnazzerino]

@@GarageBuiltHondas Good to see you try to reply to all your comments too! I think I left a reply on your video about side markers on your CRX

[@SgtSnazzerino]

Ended up snapping off the mounting points off the end of the trailing arms for those toe arms because they were so rusted lol. New England in a nutshell. Good news is I'm getting new trailing arms with rear disc conversion lol

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Ouch. Glad to hear it's working out ok in the end.

[@L-ot5fs]

I did mine wrong. Time to fix my mistake. Awesome video

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

You got this, shouldn't be too hard to fix!

[@brittonwritespoetry]

I noticed underneath somewhere on your car it says SH3. that's the middle part of most of the part numbers for most 88-91 Civic/CRX parts. For example the trailing arm bushings are 52385-SH3-000. If it were a 92-95 Civic it would be SR3. or if it were a 96-00 it would be S04. But as I'm sure you know they're the same part physically. And that goes for the compensator arms you're replacing as well as tie rods,rack ends and upper and lower ball joints. Wishbone Era Civics.

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Britton Wright very nice info! Glad Honda was smart about their design and part #'s!

[@brittonwritespoetry]

Jon Widmer definately. They along with Toyota and Nissan have a very logical part numbering system so you can trace and make sense of their catalog history. I always saw adjustable toe arms but I never knew what factory part they replaced and thanks to your video now I know.

[@austinjohnson2162]

Nice video. I never knew it was so easy. 👍

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Super, now time to get yours done!

[@travisgustin4677]

If u live in the rust belt it’s not.

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Agree Travis. 😬

[@northerns1560]

Good video, too bad the wind wasn't on your side. I installed these on my 1990 SI when I was in the process of doing my disk conversion, They make it super easy to align the rear.

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Agreed, damn weather this time of year kills me sometimes.

[@johnblackstone5261]

Didn't the Si come with disk rears or was that only for the CRX?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Only the 90-91 CRX was graced with rear discs!

[@johnblackstone5261]

@@GarageBuiltHondas oh wow that's crazy they got into that late. The Si hatch was basically the DX but with the MPFI D16A6 and the different cluster

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

And the nicer interior too. The painted parts and sunroof look good to!

[@derekwilson8011]

Hey my name is Derek I've been a 1997 Honda CRV that's at stock height after replacing all the suspension arms and everything else rear tires are leaning inward was wondering if I need to get to Upper camber adjustable arms are the inner toe link arms that are adjustable any advice would be helpful thanks

[@xThe_Caveman]

madman Joh!!! great video!

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

👍🏻

[@angelisone]

Garage Built Hondas,the 2000 Civic doesn't have long black bar (00:22 covered by two bolts) and most of the time the compensator arm bolts are fused/rusted that they snapped. What year is your model that you were lucky to remove the bolt without having to do major work of cutting a hole?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

1990 Civic hatchback

[@iceyinferno]

Doesn't this allow you to adjust the toe curve as well? Great video on the install!!!

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Thanks man! Yes, as long as your alignment shop lets you pick!!

[@chadgeissler4544]

Great Video! How loud are the spherical bushings? I'm contemplating doing this on my 99 GSR. It's not a daily, just weekend spirited drives and track events. What are your thoughts Jon? Thanks -Chad

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

My opinion may not be the greatest because this car is loud and stiff to begin with. But I didn't notice any change in noise when going to all spherical. I would definitely suggest it, especially on a non-daily driver. No binding, and precise adjustments are great!

[@mrsemifixit]

Curious why you installed these? Were you having issues getting toe aligned with stock ones?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

I was not. This is a car I was using to do some local road racing. I just wanted the spherical aspect of the arms. I didn't need the extra adjustability.

[@user-sw6cc3sf2g]

Ok so i am not super car smart but I'm learning.... That being said when you have stock everything is it ok to buy the type of arm you just took out or does it have to be like those fancy gold ones?

[@user-sw6cc3sf2g]

My is a 99 civic by the way

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Stock is perfect, especially for a stock car. I only upgraded because this is a fun car that is taken to the race track. I would definitely suggest stock parts but with new replaced bushings.

[@user-sw6cc3sf2g]

Awesome thanks

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

You're welcome, anytime!

[@lavidaesmejorenelagua]

what if the bolt breaks inside where the bolt is supposed screw in to pleaase help ); ?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Ouch. Going to have to cut into the body of the car from the inside to get to the nut thats back there. No other way around it.

[@lavidaesmejorenelagua]

the hole where i am supposed to put the bolt trought also fell inside the little cave looking thing so i have no where to put my bolt trought , can i just use a bolt and a nut to secure it on the body ? and posiblly get an aligment ,i an thinking later doen the road takung it to a body shop to weld another piece where i can put my bolt trought

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

There isn't room to add a nut. The nut is inside the body unfortunately.

[@lavidaesmejorenelagua]

@@GarageBuiltHondas i ended cutting where the bolt was And took the bolt out Hopefully welding it shut soon (:

[@chaleorta]

so you would say this adjustable toe arm is more recommended if the car is lowered? i plan on keeping mine stock height but i would like to replace the arms.

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Yes, lowered. Stock, you may want to consider replacing the bushings in the toe arms. Mine were torn and old.

[@chaleorta]

rJon Widmer hey jon to replace the trailing arm bushing would you say its a DIY or shop? mine are pretty beat up.

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

EFsedan91LX DIY for sure! I have a video on some I did for a 97 Integra. I used Hardrace but it's the same process as using oem.

[@angelisone]

If you get the Stock Toe Arm & positioned at the places, then no alignment needed, right?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

You'll probably be ok, but it's recommended to get it aligned if you're replacing them.

[@estebandepaz3063]

My car has quit a bit of toe out and the bolt that slides is all the way to the right for the most toe in it can have but it still has a lot of toe out do you think this will fix it

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Yes, you can pull the toe in quite a bit with adjustable compensator (toe) arms.

[@angelisone]

I see no one showing how to DIY alignments without going to the shop. Can you do one?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

No, I always take mine. That DIY job seems like it'll take a few hours and more work than I'm willing to do. I'd rather pay $60 for a precise alignment done by s professional. That's not something I'd prefer to mess with.

[@angelisone]

Garage Built Hondas, you do know that driving around for 2 to 4 weeks will throw off the alignments.

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Explain, I don't know what you mean?

[@angelisone]

Get the car aligned, then come back in 2 to 4 weeks of driving, it will be out again.

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

There will be some adjustment but the car had a specified range which is acceptable. My track car is driven hard, my alignment guy sets it well, and I haven't had an issue.

[@1991jdmcivic]

Jon have you had any experience with the no name type sets of arms off of ebay?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Only the LCA's. I don't drive my cars too often but I had a guy on a different video of mine have problems with his urethane bushings wearing out after only 6 months. Check it out here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIKmiJWigtxoqZY

[@coleusdesign]

is it necessary to replace the compensator arms on my civic? mines a 92 and someone is telling me I might as well replace the compensator arms but I cant find them anywhere and there is not much information about them online.

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

You can just replace the bushings. jhpusa.com/products/prothane-rear-compensator-arm-bushing-kit-88-00-civic-90-01-integra

[@gabrieltiago6323]

Hi Jon! I bougth haynes manual for honda but i dont need! if i'm caught with the car like yours, the police seize the car. and every year the car goes to an inspection, the car would never pass. the police see a honda immediately stop! Best regards

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

That's too bad

[@Sam_Missile]

What rims are you running on the civic wagon ? They look really nice :)

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Thanks dude! Konig Dial-In, you can see them up close here if you'd like! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6rCkKeDgr6Nmq8

[@Sam_Missile]

Awesome I'll check them out ! Thanks !

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

I'm going to be selling them soon if you're interested. No rash or bends, almost mint. Let me know!

[@Sam_Missile]

Are the Konig dial-in's​ the rims you have in the video on the wagon ?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Yes, the black ones?

[@SPIDERMAN2015]

I was going to ask are these better or the truharts

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Hard to say, but these are discontinued now.

[@SPIDERMAN2015]

@@GarageBuiltHondas I saw these on eBay and they also have truhart from your experience which was more better for money and didn’t make noise at all

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

These.

[@SPIDERMAN2015]

@@GarageBuiltHondas yes they have them in different colors

[@SPIDERMAN2015]

@@GarageBuiltHondas FOR CIVIC EG EK EJ/DC SILVER REAR ADJUSTABLE LOWERING CONTROL TOE ARM SUSPENSION just copy and pasta you would see them right away

[@marcossolis245]

did you get that yellow CRX finally??!

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

😎

[@Kanupleaseknot]

What's the name of the tool you used on your ratchet to tighten the toe arm?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

What minute mark in the video?

[@Kanupleaseknot]

@@GarageBuiltHondas at the 2 second mark you placed the tool next to the camber set

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

No idea. It came with those password jdm arms. You can use a combination of wrenches for any toe arms, sizing may vary.

[@Turdsmear]

Not this specifically but you would be looking for a crowfoot wrench set.

[@Kanupleaseknot]

@@Turdsmear thanks bro I need this tool

[@johnda9keefer204]

I so should have done this to my Integra. lol.

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Seriously, super easy!

[@jdsphynx3656]

I have the bloc on the trailing arm there nice shirt man stiff and squeaky as fuck, every time it rains every now and then I have add some brake grease the clear one, it works better the red Lucas it dose the job but the it picks up all the dirt as again have to clean it add some more ,is a bitch in here in Laredo tx, do you run with the same issue as well ?

[@RestauracionEnCasa]

Do you know whats the original size of the toe arm factory?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Not sure what you mean?

[@RestauracionEnCasa]

@@GarageBuiltHondas the size of the original toe arm?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

No idea

[@anthonyvillanueva5916]

what kind of coilovers you have

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

A pair of 500 lb rate Ground Controls in the rear, and a pair of 450 lb Summit Racing in the front. I just ordered a set of ProComp Motorsports front pair in 550 lbs as I want to change up the setup a little bit and those were the least expensive I found online.

[@cuevasedward]

how long have u had these install already would u recommend them to get

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Only since I did the video a few weeks ago. They are awesome for a car that's driven hard, but I do not recommend them for a daily driver.

[@zongyang4707]

can you do my whole car for me..??? lol

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Let's do it!

[@zongyang4707]

@@GarageBuiltHondas where are you located?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

El Paso, TX

[@clinteastwood666]

if I ever want a crx or ef will you sell me one? lol

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Possibly!! Lol

[@chaleorta]

Jon Widmer no sell it to me xD

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Haha

[@javyjav1977]

How much were those?

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

Javier Guerrero $108

[@MUGENKINGU]

Fuck yeah!!! NARU BITCHES!!!!!

[@GarageBuiltHondas]

24/7

[@raquino925]

toe.