This video demonstrates how to wire a tachometer on almost any vehicle with EFI. In this video, I wired it up on a 1997 Toyota Tercel.
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@brandonmerrithew3176 жыл бұрын
I instantly recognized that gauge cluster. Tercel owner myself. Glad I found your video.
@tntfishing96124 жыл бұрын
Same
@Stabbing-Serenade4 жыл бұрын
Yup same
@YungSteambuns3 жыл бұрын
Same, the vent gave it away to me
@nandernugget6 жыл бұрын
Lmao I looked up this video so I can do this to my Tercel, only to be greated by a Tercel.
@Kev473 жыл бұрын
7 years later and same lol
@andrewbertran64803 жыл бұрын
ups for the tercel
@colostomybag93674 жыл бұрын
Great video I’m putting on on my 94 Tercel. With the manual it’s not necessary but I’m still learning how to shift smoothly and I think this would help. Thanks !🖖🏻
@patgraeme775 Жыл бұрын
Ears help more than a tach
@Polo-7155 ай бұрын
@@patgraeme775agreed
@MrRandomReviews7 жыл бұрын
your camera needs glasses
@BriggsGuy547 жыл бұрын
Maybe you do.
@hiiack14425 жыл бұрын
@@BriggsGuy54 he means the camera is not focused
@Niko-bf7nw5 жыл бұрын
to be fair my phone does that all the fuckin time. by the way, hes trying to help ppl, so stfu
@Exempty3 жыл бұрын
@@Niko-bf7nw turn on manual focus
@andrewsan57563 жыл бұрын
crown Vic guru how you doin
@Darkrocker00083 жыл бұрын
"How to wire a Tachometer" The video: "Don't! Just wedge the wires into the fusebox!"
@mitchcarter60906 жыл бұрын
This actually helps me 100% I have a 97 turcel 😂😂 same colour and everything lmfao
@ceraleater1236 жыл бұрын
bought a tercel yesterday, same colour, same year 😂
@youngborn76003 жыл бұрын
Lol. Lucky
@geogeo25514 жыл бұрын
Looks like a race car now . I added one and got 30 horse more !!
@i_see_u_0_0wweee993 жыл бұрын
You do realize some older model cars don’t have a tach on the dash, and that tachs can help you see if you vehicle has a problem. Guess you wouldn’t know that since it doesn’t seem you have half a brain
@geogeo25513 жыл бұрын
@@i_see_u_0_0wweee99 ur a douche bag bro
@borenza73 жыл бұрын
Thank you just installed mine today Lucky I hade a 98 Tercel was very easy to do
@Boofpanda5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I actually understood this video unlike all the rest!
@dientefrio694 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro. I have a 95 and I didn't know until I saw your video because other videos are for older car.
@spacetrucker29527 жыл бұрын
If you have an LED bulb in your tach, don't hook it up to your dimmer switch.
@tommydied Жыл бұрын
why
@roberthorwat67477 жыл бұрын
Nice and simple explanation, I wouldn't bother going through the bulkhead either, well, not on a '97 car anyway☺
@PoPFartzUnlimited2 ай бұрын
No way I’m looking for the same car model. Sick coming across this Will help awesome
@brianmadison71665 жыл бұрын
This would all be unnecessary if car manufacturers would just install tachometers as standard equipment, especially in vehicles equipped with manual transmissions. Instead of having a one instrument cluster for the higher trims and a separate one for their lower trims wouldn't it be more cost effective to just provide one standard gauge layout that includes a tach on all trim levels?
@vahyg55082 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I'm talking about. I have a 06 HB 2dr Focus 5 speed with no Tach. Yet a 4dr wagon Auto has one. Makes no sense
@WizardMower4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the Tercel cluster before you said the brand and model
@xcmalvarez47 жыл бұрын
What gage did you use I like it it's small. Also you think it will be the same install method for a 92 corolla?
@codyfeatherstone731 Жыл бұрын
I like where your mounted at that’s gonna work perfect in my car
@scorpionwins63786 жыл бұрын
What brand tachometer are you using? And if I may ask how much did it cost you? I'm considering buying one for a car that surprisingly didn't come with one from the factory (2005 Ford Focus) and not sure why the manufacturer didn't feel it was necessary to include on the gauge cluster. In a car with a manual gearbox especially, I feel it is very important to know what is going on with the engine at all times. That being said, I found a Bosch tachometer online for about $30. Is this a good brand?
@BriggsGuy546 жыл бұрын
This one is an Equus 7078. It costed me about $70 Canadian. Bosch is a good brand. Yea, the same thing with this car - It doesn't come with a factory tach. Stupid eh.
@agampodipasindumangaladezo55473 жыл бұрын
@@BriggsGuy54 Hello i am from srilanka . I have toyota axio 2007 X grade . It doesn't has RPM meter . But the same car G grade ( has more features than X grade ) has RPM meter in the meter board . So i found same meter cluster From G grade . I want to fix this meter board cluster to my car . So i just want to know i have to make new wiring or not. Tks for reply.
@BriggsGuy543 жыл бұрын
@@agampodipasindumangaladezo5547 Hey man. I dont know how you would hook that up. It may be totally different.
@Hi-lb8cq2 жыл бұрын
You can buy a good one for cheap on eBay
@vahyg55082 жыл бұрын
Nice I got a manual 06 Focus 2dr HB with no Tach. I'll never understand the logic behind it, so I hear you my guy🤣
@Isaiah-ft5nx3 жыл бұрын
Wow that Tercel revs up fast! My yaris seems to rev up way slower than that... No fair.. 😢 😂
@InfoGoblin96.98 ай бұрын
Thank you for keeping it simple, amazingly helpful couldn't thank you enough. I'm decent at mechanics but I have no clue about wiring 😊
@jaleelcarter4178 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen people with a adapter and was wondering if I need it or not
@ironore16134 жыл бұрын
Is this any similar to an gauge install on a "2002 Celica gt"?
@flyonbyya2 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned 2 Tercel’s 5 speeds Pure highway mileage would truly exceed 50 mpg
@philwragg97567 ай бұрын
so i cant add a second tacho to car which has already got one as standard?
@tyfilms95644 жыл бұрын
currently installing a tach on my 2009 Ford F150 my only problem is finding out which wire i need to splice to connect to the green wire
@brentsido88228 жыл бұрын
that green wire is going to move a lot, probably break.
@anonymike82803 жыл бұрын
But, easy to repair.
@aydenponto8808 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad install great tips 👍
@murphycox32057 ай бұрын
how do i find which wire on the ignition module?
@PackardBelltoll7 жыл бұрын
IS IT just piston 1 for a tach?
@4by4dodge311 ай бұрын
And that’s how you start a fire 🔥
@shaunrussell14798 жыл бұрын
u can use the obd2 port too bottom 3rd pin from right for my toyota echo
@Ifyoucantdodgeitramit7 жыл бұрын
What if you're like me and have a fuel injected car that ALSO has a distributor cap and is NOT a distributorless ignition system?
@BriggsGuy547 жыл бұрын
Look at a wiring diagram and find a ground wire. Use that as it's the "signal" wire.
@user-gn8rs3fy7y4 жыл бұрын
How to install RPM meter in a Bajaj 2 stock tuk tuk?
@jordanjohnson9312 Жыл бұрын
How did you tap into the fuse like that?
@tommynichols9510 Жыл бұрын
He should be using a add a fuse
@22.WRBlue.WRX.927 жыл бұрын
so I installed a tach in my 1995 tercel the same exact way you did. the tach itself works perfectly fine but the only issue I'm having is the green wire. I fed it through the door the same way you did but the hood won't latch all the way so any ideas for me there??
@BriggsGuy547 жыл бұрын
Jon Fincher spray white lithium grease all over the hood latch mechanism. and keep trying to close the hood to work i through it. Once it closes pop it and shut it, pop it and shut it, pop it and shut it. That will work the grease through it
@22.WRBlue.WRX.927 жыл бұрын
thanks, I will have to try it tomorrow when it's not so cold.
@jofishisawsome5 жыл бұрын
Drill a 1/4 inch hole through the firewall with a rubber grommet in it then run the wire through like your supposed to so i isn’t getting pinched by the hood or door
@sierraayers27676 жыл бұрын
i got a question, i got a 2002 toyota echo 1.5 and it has ignition coil packs. im not sure where the green wire will go since i dont have a distrubitor
@viettungpham5603Ай бұрын
Hello, how does the white wire connect to the power source?
@russellread308 жыл бұрын
you put a bolt in your dash I dont think the green wire is the promblem. The promlem is a loose nut between the steering wheel and the seat
@stevelamain97699 жыл бұрын
I have same car just tried to wire it the same it lights up but no signal . RPM doesn't work. what am I doing wrong.. I installed exactly like u did
@BriggsGuy549 жыл бұрын
+steve lamain Make sure the wire splitter is firmly clipped in. The first time I did it I had no signal also but I used pliers and pressed the clip together so it would get contact with the wire and it did the trick. Good luck!
@usingtheirhypocracyagainst86365 жыл бұрын
wow a bolt hole in a nice dash, who would a thought
@RedneckProductions398 жыл бұрын
What was the exhaust on the car, I have the same car and I'm installing a tachometer too, but seriously is that straight pipes?
@BriggsGuy548 жыл бұрын
At the time of this video, I cut the muffler off and ran a straight pipe out the back. Since it was 97 I cant to do much as 97 still takes a probe to test the emissions. When I knew I wasn't going to have the car long I cut the cat off and made it a full straight pipe. Check my account for videos of it fully straight. I had it on the road like that for almost a year.
@ethanmartin26124 жыл бұрын
Briggs Guy It sounds like ass. 4-cylinder engines should not be straight piped
@tommynichols9510 Жыл бұрын
Addd a fuse???
@gusgusmontes64239 жыл бұрын
Hey man this video really helps I have a tercel 96 nd also I wanted what did u put on ur engine to make it go to 180 mph
@supaflywhiteguy76359 жыл бұрын
gustavo montes you're a funny guy its obviously kph. It's probably in canada.
@BraddLaRocca9 жыл бұрын
+gustavo montes The only way this car is doing 180mph is if you drop it out of a plane. A Bradd LaRocca guarantee.
@edgarrivera46235 жыл бұрын
J. Bradd LaRocca unless it’s a high end sports car
@daniellau58594 жыл бұрын
@@edgarrivera4623 then itd go 240mph being dropped from an airplane. Cuz of aerodynamics 😂
@elite_shadower_60575 жыл бұрын
do i need to use constant 12v from the fuse box or i could use it from behind my radio?
@leorael44973 жыл бұрын
How would I connect the green wire for 94s10 distributorless?
@DayOfRevival10 жыл бұрын
i hope this helps, i have a 95 ford f150 and i want to wire an rpm gauge cause i have subs hooked up and i need to know when to shift since i wont hear it
@jeffakerson8698 жыл бұрын
Can i ask where you put your subs i have a 93 and am trying to figure out how i should upgrade my system as its only a regular cab
@DayOfRevival8 жыл бұрын
Jeff Akerson i have 2 shallow mount 10"s, all you need to do is put them behind the seat, there is a box made that thins towards the top to fit in regular cab trucks
@jeffakerson8698 жыл бұрын
+ImKnil can the bench seat still be all the way back ?
@DayOfRevival8 жыл бұрын
Jeff Akerson mine can be
@chadbannergreen8 жыл бұрын
+ImKnil or you could just shift every 10 mph, lol cruise in a higher gear while you lean back in your seat with your hat down low acting all gangster.
@mgilbert19875 жыл бұрын
I have a mechanically injected 5.9 Cummins with a Bosch P7100 mechanical injection pump. Does this have an ignition module like the Turcel?
@BriggsGuy545 жыл бұрын
Nope! Would start by looking at a schematic of the crank sensor to see what wire would be the feed.
@gabrielsoto20302 ай бұрын
Conecte uno aún tercel solo limita a 2rpm no me pasa mas de ahy
@camryle559010 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That's helpful
@luci-fer2503 жыл бұрын
what about a 95 nissan pickup 2.4 litre with a coil pack and distributor.........wire to distributor not a signal wire
@juddlythenomad46347 жыл бұрын
That camera focus tho
@ramilcaballero66638 жыл бұрын
can i used this guide for toyota vios 2004?
@trevsmith17766 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that want to hook one up to honda civic 1999 its a automatic u think it be ok or dum to have one
@robertsutton53593 жыл бұрын
Hey bud, what would u say about 1997ek civic hatch jam swap automatic where to I install the green signal wire ignition source or tach aensoe
@BriggsGuy543 жыл бұрын
Hey man. That may require something more specific. Try looking up a how to on that car.
@robertsutton53593 жыл бұрын
@@BriggsGuy54 bet I appreciate it the advice bro, I figured it. I can wire into the direct acc power supply behind radio or push through the fire wall and link up to the plug control harness(ignition swt. Plug harness and tap into open fuse slots under dash👍🔧
@hayderalameer90926 жыл бұрын
Hi what type gauge tachometer?
@fortheloveofnoise Жыл бұрын
An easier thing would be just to put some loud mufflers so it is easier to hear when to shift, that is what I did......a glasspack on my 98 Sentra
@borenza73 жыл бұрын
Was the dash easy to get off to get the wires in
@BriggsGuy543 жыл бұрын
I don't remember exactly how i fed the wires through the dash. But i know it didn't take me long.
@marvinvicente76955 жыл бұрын
Sir help Toyota hiace cummuter 2018 install ah rpm ..
@heklik7 ай бұрын
Mine is 1994 model it's carburetted.
@Andoxico8 жыл бұрын
i got a '79 with a carbourater so what do i hook up the tach to?
@Andoxico8 жыл бұрын
and im pretty sure theres no tach wire on my distributor
@UntrustedAlly8 жыл бұрын
+The Andoxico '77 here. Did you figure it out? I'd love to install a tach in my car.
@nmancreative8 жыл бұрын
+The Andoxico Hook the green tach wire to the "-" ground on your coil pack.
@Andoxico8 жыл бұрын
UntrustedAlly i figured it out. on my distributor there's 6 wires going to spark plugs then theres a wire in the middle going to the ignition coil. also going into the ignition coil should be a green wire, that's what you splice into
@UntrustedAlly8 жыл бұрын
I figured it out myself, hooked it all up right, then discovered I had a faulty tach. Even used a multimeter to check everything. Too late to return, too.
@VinciPlayzzz7 жыл бұрын
How would I add a Tachometer on my 1969 Morris Minor? I guess it isn't possible because there is no sensor? And if it isn't, is there a kit with sensor?
@daniellau58594 жыл бұрын
Well, your distributor gets voltage somehow. You gotta splice the signal wire of your tach to the ignition wire of the distributor, as the tach will read how fast the distributor spins and releases voltage and use that as your rpms. Being from 69 theres bound to be a distributor with a rotor and cap lol
@blueburaq8 жыл бұрын
Wha'ts the highway speed at 3000 RPM for this car? What does it read on the tach?
@BriggsGuy548 жыл бұрын
its around 130 kmph. i dont drive the car anymore so i couldnt tell you exactly.
@aidanhorner78296 жыл бұрын
Hi what’s another name for the ignition module? I cannot for the life of me locate mine and google won’t help
@alexknowles19494 жыл бұрын
Is that a 3rz?
@hmoovntujchannel2 жыл бұрын
Please redo your video to see better
@pathaze42997 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where to attach the tach wire on a 1999 Toyota Corolla because I want a tach and can't find where to attach it. I've been looking for weeks now and am getting fed up. I seriously want to just sell it for one with a tach at this point. It also runs and drives just fine.
@BriggsGuy547 жыл бұрын
There is a plug in the distributor with 4 wires on it. The black one is the ground wire for wiring a tach. The ground wire provides a pulse signal. Use a wire splicer about 6 inches up the wire away from the distributor. The distance is in case the splice ever corrodes or fails you wont be stuck with it being too close to the plug making it hard to cut out the bad wire and reattach it. Understand that if your car ever shuts off in the future and has no spark this should be the first guess as to why. Not that it happened to me, but your cutting the wire open exposing it to air and other contaminants so it could always happen.
@daech85027 жыл бұрын
Will this work on my Mercedes 190e?
@cadenkellogg85349 жыл бұрын
Would this method of installation work on my 1995 bmw 318ti?
@anderstermansen1303 жыл бұрын
Did you find out?
@ivankarakasic85079 жыл бұрын
can u tell me what is the red thing u connect wires?
@BriggsGuy549 жыл бұрын
The red thing is a wire splicer. Its not the best way to spice a wire so don't make it a habit of using them a lot but it gets the job done.
@cjwalsh84339 жыл бұрын
Not all cars are 80s and up I've got an 87 caprice she's still got the carb :)
@BriggsGuy549 жыл бұрын
As of about 86 carbs were optional. It's even easier to hook a tach up it a distributer style setup.
@cjwalsh84339 жыл бұрын
yes and thank you for vid bro you should see my caprice shes a project
@MrAhicks668 жыл бұрын
+Cj Walsh I drove an '87 Caprice with the 4.3L fuel-injected... And an '87 Caprice with a 350 carb... I've driven an '85 Cutlass Supreme with a 305 V8 carb, an '86 Cutlass Supreme with the 307 V8 carb. Every one of those Rochester carbs sucked, but once you drop in a better carb, they run FOREVER! I personally have an '87 LeSabre, even with the little 3.8L she is a great old girl. Not as good as a Regal or Grand National, I may not beat someone off the line, but once I hit 3rd, punks are in my rearview realizing they just got whooped by a a thirty-something driving a Granny Car. They don't make cars like that anymore. *sigh*
@kickschutte9930 Жыл бұрын
hi nice video, do you remember what tachometer u used in this video?
@BriggsGuy54 Жыл бұрын
Equus Pro Tach. I think it's the 6088. Nice little tach. Not too big.
@kickschutte9930 Жыл бұрын
@@BriggsGuy54 thanks that one looked perfect sad they dont ship to the netherlands :/ cant find it anywhere! all tachometers here that go via ignition are 150 euros or more. Cheap tachs here go via the dynamo but since my car is older and not a diesel it wouldnt work that way. I hope ill find something maybe
@yamazakishuoh70266 жыл бұрын
how abt on 2013 Toyota Prius
@mr-t12436 жыл бұрын
You could have used a add a fuse.
@dancj108 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for the same thing but for a 1995 Honda Civic SI
@GHOST117HALOBOYCOD8 жыл бұрын
If you need rpm in a civic just pull the gauge cluster from an ex they all cross compatible and you can get one used at a junk yard for like 20 dallord although and so should have a tach
@hmoovntujchannel2 жыл бұрын
Good video but need better camera 📸 lol
@ahsan93555 жыл бұрын
car model?
@jakesweikar5969 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the kit?
@BriggsGuy549 жыл бұрын
Canadian Tire sells them for around $60. Napa stores can order them in, I'm sure most other parts stores can get them too.
@edgarrivera46235 жыл бұрын
They’re cheap on EBay
@pathaze42997 жыл бұрын
My Corolla doesn't have a distributor. It uses electronic ignition.
@reapernwc5 жыл бұрын
Still has a distributor
@phillipdias63909 жыл бұрын
it seems to appear to be a manual transmition by seeing three pedals so my question is why does it not have one I nevr seen a manual tran. not have one whole purpose so you don;t over draft the engine to the gear shifting
@BriggsGuy549 жыл бұрын
Kangol Kid It is a manual! Good point! Having a tachometer in the gauge cluster is actually a manufacture option. I have no idea why they don't come standard. Surprisingly the car had 262,000 when I bought it and those were put all on it with no tach. This was the first thing I did to the car after I had it on the road. I couldn't stand not knowing what I was revving it.
@chocoroll8D9 жыл бұрын
Kangol Kid I drive a manual Hilux and it doesn't have a tacho. You can just go by ear or how the car feels to drive.
@phillipdias63909 жыл бұрын
Oh okay thanks eveery one I just oblivious I always driven a standard and usually make sur H.U.D has all gauges no idiot lights
@mattbarkey9619 жыл бұрын
+Kangol Kid Yeah my parent's 2000 Ford Escort is manual and doesn't have a tach either. I learned how to drive stick with that car. Me: "But when do I shift, dad?" Dad: "When you feel like it"
@Spaethon9 жыл бұрын
+Kangol Kid I've had a 89 Mazda 323 and currenty drive a 99 Mirage; both with no tachometer. If you really learn how to drive a manual, you don't need one. The best of us use our ears, not our eyes
@TheVintagetamiya7 жыл бұрын
Omg I would send a few add fuses.If 1 of those wire falls it's going to be a bad day.
@BriggsGuy547 жыл бұрын
TheVintagetamiya Theres only two wires. As long as it's in nice and tight it's good. If you think its worth it to run fuses on a Tercel be my guest.
@TheTheinventor6 жыл бұрын
that's funny! tercel??
@peanutbutter732 Жыл бұрын
Electrical work always scares me
@chenlee32403 жыл бұрын
My truck has never been over 4 thousand
@Shadizzleify9 жыл бұрын
Great way to short out a wire... Running it through the door. Why can't people run wires properly through a grommet?
@nathanpetrohilos9 жыл бұрын
because 97 tecerl beater with a fart cannon on it
@d3et1roi3t9 жыл бұрын
Shadizzleify the green wire should be on the coil ground so I dont think it makes a difference. Even if it shorted it would make things better? lol
@MrAhicks668 жыл бұрын
+Shadizzleify I would suggest using plastic split loom, it's cheap enough, and will offer a decent amount of protection for the wire, since it is likely to rub against the metal and possibly wear through the insulation.
@marcodevries44813 жыл бұрын
I thought only high school kids ran wires around the door jam. SMH
@BriggsGuy543 жыл бұрын
At the time I was 19 - I had just got out of highschool.
@tylercameron7578 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone put a fart cannon in a Tercel?...
@BriggsGuy548 жыл бұрын
+Tyler Cameron Thanks for the compliment, and for showing interest in my exhaust! It's not actually a fart can... I removed the catalytic converter and the muffler and replaced them with a straight pipe.
@tylercameron7578 жыл бұрын
+Briggs Guy (BriggsGuy54) Ah, I see!
@ep82guy218 жыл бұрын
+Briggs Guy (BriggsGuy54) hmm its runnig fine no loss of power yu still have resonators rite
@BriggsGuy548 жыл бұрын
Nothing but straight exhaust pipe (:
@ep82guy218 жыл бұрын
bruh crazy how is the engine like yu dont feel no loss of power?
@dakotadriggers88386 жыл бұрын
Now do a diesel
@jeffnations66493 жыл бұрын
LMAO! Turcel? Hahahaha
@jamiethedon34846 жыл бұрын
Not on a td5 lanny you wont!
@peytontuck356 Жыл бұрын
lol so random i have the sam car
@thompson94519 жыл бұрын
LOL god forbid you have a wire but the copious amounts of garbage on the floor is just fine
@donchodon42452 жыл бұрын
This video is comically bad I hope it was intended lol
@mikedupree26909 жыл бұрын
LOL GHETTO wire job
@RYDENROAM726 жыл бұрын
i do agree with you. hahahaha he could have gone through one of the grommets through his fire wall. if he went online to find where the green wire (ghetto hook up) goes, he should have gone online and look on how to install it the correct way.
@ProdigyAutomotive5 жыл бұрын
It works doesn’t it?
@anilkumartambe99495 жыл бұрын
can u be more energetic, that will really help.
@russellread308 жыл бұрын
he says hes a mechanic I woulnt let him change the battery in my old ladys vibrator
@BriggsGuy548 жыл бұрын
haha tell that to the $200 i made of this video. And I dont claim to be a mechanic.
@russellread308 жыл бұрын
well I guess were your at you could buy a new car
@russellread308 жыл бұрын
take that $200 and buy a new car
@p3l1k44n18 жыл бұрын
You can get 4 nissan micras with 200 bucks.. I know i got two for 100 bucks.. Driving one to work 100km per day for months and no problems yet.
@gabeulrickson24966 жыл бұрын
#ricer
@ironore16134 жыл бұрын
How?
@NOVA-is6jz9 жыл бұрын
Car is trash
@BriggsGuy549 жыл бұрын
It might not be the best and most fastest car in the world, but it sure in hell holds up.
@BriggsGuy549 жыл бұрын
Its still on the road... 308,000 kms.
@BraddLaRocca9 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Siegfried Dam yo, why would you say the mans car is trash? I mean I laughed out loud for real, no lol, but come on man, that ain't cool. Thanks for the video Briggs.
@jaleelcarter4178 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen people with a adapter and was wondering if I need it or not