How to LeMons - Racing Do's and Don'ts - "Lemonade" - A 24hrs of LeMons Film | Everyday Driver

[@AB0BA_69]

I did not think I would sit through the entire hour of this, but you made this video so much fun and engaging! Also thank you for stressing that newbies can participate in this.

[@EverydayDriver]

This is a huge compliment. Very glad you enjoyed!

[@Jesusprayerwarriorbw]

@@EverydayDriver You guys rock! Just serious enough for a lil competition but knowing that its lemons. I had my 1st track day a yr ago. Man I need a 2nd job to afford my habit know!

[@TheFloridaStig]

Exactly Came to say this

[@yousefabdulrhman858]

@@Jesusprayerwarriorbw im sorry i have to do this . Now not know.

[@bjarneberg4802]

“I’m starting to learn”, then spins 😂👍

[@bladerunner6282]

you got to spin to know your limits. it's practically mandatory.

[@afroize]

@@bladerunner6282 i remember the first time i spun out lol i only became a better driver after that experience no doubt.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Never track a car that you can't write off. This was awesome! In Finland they keep it fair by allowing anyone to buy an opponent's car for $500 if they suspect cheating the budget cap.

[@pbgd3]

lemons technically also has that rule

[@SparrowNoblePoland]

@@pbgd3 How is that actually possible? Working safety equipment alone costs more. Rollcage alone is at least twice that.

[@pbgd3]

@@SparrowNoblePoland ya lemons racing is a 500$ car but unlimited for safety brakes cages suppression seat harness etc. The 500 rule exists only as a threat and a bludgeon for cheaters not as something to commonly utilize.

[@jjpg2000]

"I'm starting to learn." Immediately spins the car.

[@n1352-m1i]

best way to learn is through experience...

[@omega1575]

He isn’t wrong

[@BlueTrane2028]

Now that I've seen the whole movie, your story echoes ours in some ways. In our case, we run a modified Chevette. It's been the same car the whole time but with sometimes extreme changes from year to year. 2017: about the slowest thing on the track, finished toward the bottom of the field. Car got lots of attention though, took home a regional build award trophy. 2018: tried to make the car faster, blew it up on the parade lap, spent the whole weekend fixing it and got maybe 20 minutes out of it, earning Heroic Fix and not being DFL. 2019: motor #5 (I wish that was a typo) was great, finished mid pack. Found afterwards that we had a huge intake restriction limiting power drastically. 2020: Come on Coronavirus, GTFO so we can race in June... we have business to attend to.

[@guard13007]

I don't know when these run, but good luck!

[@nikodemgermanista745]

The Grand Tour team should race in LeMons next year, i mean. It would be epick, no matter what.

[@x-90]

These people found a Miata Boxster Fair lady Z 944 For under $500

[@brianstraight9333]

X-90 cheating is a huge part of lemons

[@troybk]

I know someone personally that bought a 944 for $500, however it was in a field with the sunroof missing and only two rims. absolute hunk of shit. that being said I've seen tons of 944s go for super cheap. i think its because in my part of the us there are no vehicle inspections, so cars go to shit faster and they dont need much to get back on the road.

[@monkeybuttdevinlane]

You can spend more on the car than $500, but are subject to penalty laps... unless you can successfully bribe your tech inspector.

[@fridtjofriibe5961]

Don’t forget the Corrado

[@GunFunZS]

There are two safety mechanisms built into the rolls about that. one if you showed up with your Ferrari and said you bought it for $500 and you had receipts to quote prove " that, you might be able to get in. however one the judges could force you to sell it to them for $500.to the other people there can all vote to have your car smashed with an excavator. And it put least puts a practical limit on the amount of hubris you're willing to endure. It's kind of like N class citizen rally in the Nordic countries in that respect. but I have seen nice cars but people just wanted to go away and they would give it to you if you would just haul it off because it needed something like a new starter and a dead battery and the seats were ratty. So it is possible actually to get a performance car that would run but getting it road legal might be inordinately expensive tail lights for older cars can be stupid for example. So you could probably get a beater old Corvette with rotten body panels and trashed interior if you looked around for $500. Then donor swap an LS motor from something else that is ready and cheap...

[@misturchips]

THis popped up int eh suggestions, and I scoffed "It's over an HOUR LONG!!! Who's going to watch THAT?"... a handful of almonds, a couple 'cuties' , some costco chocolate covered raisins later proved this to be me. Fantastic camera, audio, editing, and driving work, fellas!

[@EverydayDriver]

Glad you enjoyed it - thank you for watching!

[@tedgreen4626]

Starting with an existing Lemons car makes the process easier. The suggestion to visit an entire Lemons weekend is useful advice. Figure on your team spending about $4500+ to get started - $500 for the car, but then much more for the roll cage, fire bottle system, various safety mods,racing suits, HANS, tires, gas, etc. I have driven five Lemons and it is a blast.

[@TODM4XNL]

29:56 rolling into the pits as the Subaru cruises by

[@starpykillastarpy8972]

its absolutely awesome seeing the driver's perspective and commentary during a lemons race and that pure joy on yall's faces is what keeps me coming back to work at the track every event and race. I also love seeing drivers having an absolute blast and yet understanding the safety element of racing. Race on guys yall rock!

[@mr.2cents.846]

One thing I learned of years of Forza Motorsport is, in racing your first priority is the track. The other things I learned is, if you can pass someone, do it. Ignore racers behind you. If they want to pass you, it is their problem if they can. To the most part races are won in turns. And lastly, a car is only as good as the driver.

[@chrisluecke3341]

Thank you so much for doing this. The whole ends up being even better than the parts. Makes a great film!

[@Spontaneous0rder]

I cut the cable TV cord 5 months ago precisely so I would have time to watch films like this. Thanks, ED.

[@bobbyread]

My car is the yellow and black ‘85 Celica (NachoFriend Racing). We were next to the 986 in the paddock for the last race. It was great to meet Todd.

[@BlueTrane2028]

"Why would you race a $500 Alpha Romeo? Because sometimes the failure is as fun as the win. Crazy enough. As a member of a team that took Heroic Fix and spent maybe 20 minutes on track the whole weekend, I have experience in that, haha.

[@patrickbowling8184]

BlueTrane2028 Alfa Alfa Alfa Alfa

[@HanSolo__]

Your best buy gonna be 156 with 2,4JTD 1,9JTD or less reliable but sporty 2,0 TS. You can get one for € 1200 place I live and sell its nice seats or LPG system.

[@TakeTurnsGaming]

love the c10 front end on that car at 41:06 and 41:36, super cool!

[@manz_horris]

Best hour i've had in quarantine so far

[@VinnyMartello]

I've made great progress on my 56 Bel Air for 24 hours of lemons. But be mindful, the entrance fee is $1400 and you'll be spending well over a thousand dollars on safety equipment.

[@mpetersen6]

Its still a pricey hobby.

[@patrickbowling8184]

“I don’t know why you would end up racing an Alfa Romeo in Lemons.” Well because they’re awesome cars, my friend! We won a Lemons race overall at Gingerman in a GTV6. Forza!

[@kevinredden7833]

And we raced a Milano for many years in Lemons. My team won overall in Connecticut as well as numerous 2nds, 3rds, 4th's, 5ths overall!

[@kevintemmer3893]

@@kevinredden7833 For some unknown reason Alfa Romeos in LeMons DOMINATE!!!!! Well, until they have so many racing miles that the unibody starts falling apart and has to be welded back together.

[@spiffydudex]

Absolutely wonderful film. Raced in 2 lemons events in Houston and you captured the heart and soul of a Lemons race.

[@dinosshed]

I've been wanting to do this for years, even went to a local race and spent the day fixing dying cars hoping to wiggle into a team that needed a mechanic. Nothing came of it even though I'd swapped engines, fixed transmission and electronic failure on several cars using my own tools. Hopefully one day, it looks like a massive amount of fun.

[@fuckgoogleandyou8779]

Dino's Shed if yer in Oklahoma I could use some wrenching

[@edthompson6131]

I'm glad it wasn't just me that heard the Subaru laughing...

[@tmseh]

I'm as happy as a little girl! I *will* be in this race! 2000 Volvo V40, the wagon. I call it the General Sven.Ya Ha!

[@martinkurdi436]

Can you install a camera on your car and stream the race? I would like to watch it

[@VinnyMartello]

Sounds awesome dude! I'm building a 56 Bel Air. I plan on racing in South Carolina.

[@tmseh]

@@martinkurdi436 If I can get through this coronavirus silliness and see if it will affect the racing schedule this summer in New England then I most definitely will. If I am unable to prepare the General Sven to compete I will attend both local races and post videos. It will be a test of my long term goal of producing my own content. I have then Lemons videos in a separate collection and will contact you or even better I'll sub you. 🤟

[@tmseh]

@@VinnyMartello That's *awesome!* I don't think I've ever seen a car of that vintage compete. I'm in Massachusetts and there are two races scheduled close by, one in Connecticut and one in New Hampshire. I'll post videos from both races if I can't get my car prepared in time. Summer 2021 would be more realistic considering this coronavirus vacation going on. I'll sub you if you plan posting your build.

[@tmseh]

I waste too much time and energy on current politics these days especially on KZbin. My opinions won't change a damn thing. What I have discovered is that many of the people I argue with about politics share the same things as I do like gearhead stuff. The fun part of racing on a budget and having a sense of humor, just like the Lemonheads. Just wanted to get that off my mind. I give you safe passage through the Wasteland. 🤟

[@tormodskoog9088]

I just sold my 98 Outback 4 days ago. Watching this makes me miss it more!

[@thomasknight7734]

Tormod Skoog I sold mine 3 years ago and still regret it

[@pepe_raina3877]

Police Van with Brembo brakes lmao

[@FSX239]

this is real racing for the "Everyday driver!"

[@FSX239]

Ok.. .Love you guys but not for nothing you broke the car!!!!

[@blaisebeachman6518]

As someone that’s now done multiple lemons races I can say we’ll never be back. The politics involved with lemons simply outweighs whatever fun there is to be had “racing”. The whole 500 dollar car thing has no integrity whatsoever, a true 500 dollar car has no business racing against a c3 corvette with a bmw s52 swapped into it. On top of that being a new team taking it seriously is frowned upon as we received multiple black flags for passing under yellow when there was no yellow(have video of the entire race 🤷‍♂️) if you want cheap raving that is serious go to Lucky Dog or Champ car. Lemons is a joke

[@jfbeam]

Lemons is a joke, but Chump isn't? In the east, chump is a f'ing demolition derby. Chump's valuation system is just as much a sham. PUY isn't "lemons politics"; flagging is done by the corner workers -- and they're hired by the track. Yes, they can get it wrong sometimes (wrong car number, etc.) If you're getting flagged multiple times, it's probably your fault. ["It's you, home slice!"] Yes, the "$500 car" thing is not as well enforced as some would like. (it's called "BS" judging for a reason.) The spirit of the series is the Class C cars. Having raced "C" for several years now, that's where you want to be -- you're just happy the car hasn't killed anyone, and maybe there's one or two other cars as hopeless to chase around.

[@Salehq825]

i wish we have such as this great activity in our country we need more of this i was really having fun just watching it thanks for sharing :)

[@99Lezard99]

thats an awesome event. sadly nothing like that here in germany. you guys said the first time "choose a reliable car." and you chose a half dead porsche for the 2nd race....thats what you get i guess. 😆

[@ffrost8353]

The "diaper special" porshe!

[@sostrucking]

Find a race here that has a car for rent and come on over

[@SquireJethro]

LOL... "Here's the plan... blow the engine right before you coast across the finish line."

[@tom_forsyth]

Welcome to my local track! It's a great one isn't it? That feeling when you get the blind-crest turn-in for 3 then 4 just right is such a rush. Remember - tires are a "safety feature" - you can spend as much money on them as your wallet will withstand. If you examine the rules carefully, it turns out there's a loophole that means you ARE allowed to pass E30s, even at the Ridge: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqi5l6CQipWWgLcm27s

[@michaelkrenzer3296]

As long as then are greater than 180 treadwear

[@gofres]

A $500 Boxster... What could go wrong? 😂 Really enjoyed this video. Wish you the best of luck next year.

[@SgtSayWhat]

That penalty 7mins in seemed a bit harsh

[@topdamagewizard]

This is a life well lived. Congrats to you for making to the end. Great job.

[@mattguerra82]

Brilliant as usual! Thank you for dropping this video - and raising up the quality on KZbin

[@slickstretch6391]

I feel like they're being way too restrictive. Try to pass too agressively? Black flag. Try to corner too sharp and spin your own car? Black flag. Get rear-ended by an impatient Miata? Black flag! How is a driver supposed to push themselves if they're not allowed to make a mistake? With the cars they're driving, and the safety gear they're wearing, I think they can afford to loosen up a bit. And how is it a 24-hour endurance race if they don't race through the night?? This is some bullshit.

[@codylarson6842]

im getting married in May and I told my brother and dad that instead of my bachelor party I want us to do this!! hoping to be out in Shelton for 2022! great video got me really excited

[@BPEKSupraInteractive]

What the hell? A penalty for spinning out? If I heard right, the crew cleaned up oil with kitty litter or whatever oil absorbing substance and someone slips on it, the driver gets a penalty? Seems a little bs to me

[@666skyshadow]

I'm reading the 24hr of Lemons rules and sitting here confused about how half of those cars are competing. I saw a late 60's model corvette, catfish style Camaro, Tausur SHO.. Hell even the Boxster they were in, which they put a new motor in. In what world are these under $500?

[@tormodskoog9088]

Watch the race wrapups on the 24hr of Lemons channel. They will explain how it happens.

[@kevintemmer3893]

@@tormodskoog9088 "500$ my ass!!!" *robot arms*

[@DinsdalePiranha67]

One in which you give the judges a really sweet bribe!

[@crazyasianaidan3947]

41:06 hey that’s ficcara’s Toyota from that vinwiki story! License plate fenders and all.

[@SanProsan1993]

The video flew by quick. Thank you guys.

[@lordwafflesthegreat]

10:55 And I was just eyeing my old 146 in the driveway. Hey, it's 24 years old and has no issues! Well, apart from the gearbox. And windows, and AC. And all of the electric stuff... At least it still drives and is rust free! (yeah)

[@SamGraff]

I can't believe that LeMons lets the competitors run coolant instead of water. Many wheel to wheel series require water over coolant. Water on the track is no biggie, but coolant is slick and it doesn't just evaporate on its own.

[@eviltangents]

LeMons actually limits us to water only. There was coolant residue that wasn't fully flushed out of the engine.

[@NoMedium27]

Thank you so much for posting this - awesome film. Now I’m dying to do a lemons race!!!

[@sandervantrooijen9269]

02:37 Nice that father Wolff is participating as well

[@brutallyhonestsportspodcast]

Amazing content! As always with everyday driver ! Loved this series do again!

[@Datsuntech]

The saying goes, it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. I've always found it more rewarding to drive at the limit of a slow car than drive a fast car under it's limit.

[@CookRacingUK]

Really enjoyed! Good to see the E30 is a respected race machine over there too....!

[@shaneswiley]

I have been wanting to do this for some time, however, I know know I must do this. Thanks.

[@kenm724]

I’ve had a few Subaru wagon’s. Had several Subaru’s. Still have my WRX swapped ‘96 Legacy. Man the 2.2 in y’alls wagon is so anemic it’s ridiculous. Even the underpowered 2.5 feels so much quicker, and even better with a manual.

[@joaolboing]

Watching you guys race the Subaru Wagon and having so much fun is amazing

[@stevennatale4471]

Great Video. Just found your KZbin channel after being a longtime PODCAST listener. Both platforms are great, but watching the videos is a just a tad better. :)

[@adamandersson9663]

Top quality guys. All I wanted to do was to buy something cheap and go racing, you're mission is accomplished.

[@shanemulhern8947]

This is such a great video. I think I have my next project. Thanks for the inspiration.

[@dham99]

what you dont see beyond that $500 limit for the cost of a car..is the THOUSANDS it costs to actually run..prep the car..safety gear...etc. Id love to do this, but its a lot more expensive than it appears.

[@kevintemmer3893]

Yep, between 3000-5000 to build a car. As low as 2000$ if you can bend tubing and weld the cage in yourself.

[@donswier]

Welcome to our neighborhood, guys. The fearsome, fire-breathing Group B rally cars of the 1980's raced in the forests and mountains surrounding this new track.

[@FouldsLaQuinta]

Looks like a lotta fun. I chose to race vintage with VARA instead. But I think Lemons is in my future.

[@bravofighter]

For a less tongue-in-cheek affordable endurance racing series, check out American Endurance Series and Champcar (formerly Chumpcar). All are fantastic, look deeper into each series for what works best for your family, team, and budget. If you don’t want to hit oil patches, look for something on a slightly higher budget than Lemons. What Paul got blacked for shouldn’t have been there in the first place. Frankly, if a car is leaking oil, it has no place on a racetrack, but that’s one of the perils of ultra-low budget racing series.

[@mpetersen6]

It might not be leaking but just had major malfunction.

[@72Blazin]

Greetings from Team Sawzda!

[@ukemike1]

This car has come a long way. At Sonoma a few weeks back, it was fast. I chased it around my whole saturday stint and we were lead B class a few time that day.

[@mikepowers572]

What great content!! very much enjoyed watching that

[@conradtestamark6142]

I love all the details you all are given about the car and the race.👍👍🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🥂🥂🥂🥂🥂🍾🍾🍾🍾

[@robertbritolee4776]

Good lord gracious, this is really cool.

[@PUNKF001]

The UK needs this.

[@apachelives]

Hey I have the exact same car in that same dark green you see (al least on the inside panels), 330k on the clock original engine and trans still drive it (hard) daily, its a soldier. EJ22 and 4EAT's are solid units, nothing fast or fancy.

[@goons123flofy]

Dam bro, they giving you a hard time re the kitty litter spin.

[@T25de]

TurgBurglar Yea that marshal was a chump

[@imjusthere8926]

I also don't really get it, he spun yes but I doubt he thought "hm. I wanna spin now", so is there something I don't get or is the black flag really necessary?

[@House_of_Schmidt]

Looks like so much fun!

[@AustinMBecker]

Isn't this race full of cars that are like $500, because there are definitely cars that are significantly more than that out there...

[@michaelkrenzer3296]

Thre short rule clarifications: Car without safety (lots of stuff) is valued as $500. Cars get a residual value if requested after each race for allowing improvements or repairs. Everyone races (that passes tech)...bring a car they think is more than $500, you get penalty laps. Finallly (clarification 3.5) Bring the right car...judges don't care but it better be HILARIOUS!.

[@phattyhales]

Michael got it about right. There's no spending limit on safety equipment since it's all required. Brakes and tires are a free for all too. The loophole with the value of the car is you can buy a car for let's say $2k but if you're able to sell a lot of the parts off it when you strip it, the money you make back comes off of your purchase price.

[@x808drifter]

@@phattyhales Don't forget this little tidbit. 1.4: Claiming Race: At the end of the competition, the Organizers-and nobody else, you lazy, better-car-wantin’ bastids-may elect to purchase any vehicle from its owner(s) for $500. In 80 races and counting, we’ve claimed cars precisely twice. Don’t piss us off so much that we raise that to three.

[@nubreed13]

@@michaelkrenzer3296 can confirm the lada niva was budget exempt since nobody can win in a 50hp lada.

[@owenlaplante7966]

$500 MY ASS!

[@nottfire825]

This was a fantastic watch and makes me wish that I lived in a bigger city so that I could find a place to get into racing be it auto cross or even carting

[@BaioWithMayo]

I had always considered chump car over this, just as this seems to be less about racing and more about the spectacle, but either way cheap series are the best

[@nubreed13]

The racing is legitimate but with the focus on getting as much as you can from the worst car you can find.

[@BaioWithMayo]

@@nubreed13 that's fair I feel that, idk when I read the rules I took it as way sillier, but the video here definitely shows how fun it can be and even be competitive

[@RobHervert]

Awesome guys! I so need to take a shot at lemons racing.

[@Kris_T_]

I cant wait till the day we see someone on the grid at LaSarthe who started their racing carrer in Lemons.

[@b.hessing1182]

My new goal is to run this race and the Gambler 500 in the same year with the same car. Brb, gonna go surf the web for $500 G-Wagons.

[@BlueTrane2028]

Properly equipped Lemons cars can run for years on end in the series, but perhaps not if you gambler it...

[@seank3683]

great video! loved it.

[@snakeoilaudio]

"How can someone think that a 500$ is a good race car?" then showing up in a 500$ Porsche - awesome ;-)

[@stoff3r]

So you have the 135hp one, thats the fast version of this car. Try the 95hp

[@DatMudkipify]

My old 96 Legacy would of been perfect for this. It had the 2.5l turbo in it, too bad it overheated like a Subaru would.

[@johnnydeutschemark3620]

In racing, we call this "sandbagging"...I mean its a Boxster, of course its going to outperform a Mazda 3 or a Dodge Dart covered in astroturf. Fun to watch none the less.

[@asdf12345929]

Wicked cool. Question is how did you find a $500 boxster?

[@erbio7984]

Haha my friend does this, shes crazy about this racing and does well.

[@SirLuke226]

A class is for the over-competitors, who spend $500 on a shell and $20k in upgrades. B class is for people who buy a car that runs and drives and spend enough to have fun and run for 24hrs. C class is for the literal people, who spend $500 for the whole thing, probably including the entry fee.

[@cfc1001001cfc]

Nobody else said it exactly this way on this comment thread, so let me be the first..."$500 my ass!!!" Still, great fun all around. :-)

[@justjamesAMX]

Hey uhh shut

[@spaceghost5026]

"WHY U RUIN CLASSIC!?"

[@emmanuellehuu8818]

oh god that 944... poor thing hahahahaha as a 924S owner I find it absolutely hilarious hahahaha well done!

[@compu85]

How did the automatic make it to the end of the race???

[@conradtestamark6142]

Every day Driver: Great job you guys! With both cars.I like that type of racing. I would love to be in that race. And bring some of my favorite cars to race. And be part of you guys team.

[@mr.revsup]

Who hasn't wanted to race? Well for car guys. Dang, that was fun

[@TravisWaelbroeck]

Great work as always, guys. I've got to avoid Craigslist for a while or my wife will kill me.

[@Kraziiboi]

Oh wow this is Ridge Motorsport park! I didnt know they held lemons races there..

[@doctortruth4094]

Great video from a track I've driven many times.

[@thomasknight7734]

How do you beat on a Subaru for 2 days and it doesn’t blow a head gasket and then go and blow a Porsche head gasket lol

[@toto29620]

It seems pretty funny but those marshall are very picky... Come on a few bump here and here is just racing, those are old piece of junk, not prestine race car, let them have some fun

[@kevintemmer3893]

Honestly, I have a rule with my team. Any paint trading, you go to the penalty box and mandatory driver change. I don't care who is at fault.

[@SwnkyTiger]

​@@kevintemmer3893 Honestly, good for you. Any person you convince to be on the team, more power to them. I don't care, ya still sound like a bit of an arse

[@funfun5656]

aww man. Too bad about the 318. I could have disabled EWS for you via instruction over the phone...then the tumbler can just be bypassed after by splicing 2 wires and touching 2 more together

[@faidleyj1]

Pimply faced teenage voice Paul at 5:57, haha

[@keithrushforth4019]

When is this going to come to the UK?

[@erics4489]

Too bad i didn't follow you guys four or five years ago, my teams lemons car makes an appearance in the first 1:04 of the video :D

[@EverydayDriver]

Very cool!

[@erics4489]

@@EverydayDriver the mighty sriracha scirocco soldiers on to this day! actually managed 3rd in class last year heh

[@peterdewaal5237]

this is how i want to finish off my beater forester

[@darkobelisk4076]

Wish we had fun like this in Australia! Hardly any tracks left now. Everything is banned.

[@michaelwise535]

You make me want now to do lemon racing!

[@alaskafender]

How much did the Boxster cost pre-strip cost recovery/credit? Great video guys, seriously good stuff

[@eviltangents]

The Boxster was a personal car that was purchased 16 years prior so we asked the judges to assess value based on market and condition. Which was ROUGH...