How To Live Stream Producing Music in Ableton on Twitch Using Mac OS

[@BenHarrismusic]

Life savor!! I got a new apollo and had that same Scarlett in my closet. After a week of trying to route with all the different software . This vid made it so much easier

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Thanks for watching!

[@joshmulder766]

Watching this video saved me a lot of hassle, thank you so much

[@DoMusicFullTime]

That's great to hear!

[@sybreedsTV]

Fantastic guide, had some concerns with my m1 macbook air. Really streamlined explanation of combining the DAW and OBS which can be a pain for routing. Big thumbs up! Thank you for making this!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

at about 5 min in the video I remembered I had a cheap "jack to usb" dongle and a splitter. That works just fine for what I want. Thanks! lol

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Hell yea

[@AlegrasoundsAU]

holy shit man i needed to see this i almost bought a top end mac

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Yea. Don't do that please.

[@AlegrasoundsAU]

@@DoMusicFullTime I’m currently running a MacBook Pro 15 inch, 2015. Pretty much fried the cpu now using ableton. I tryed to use a capture card with a pc I have so the PC could capture what the Mac is doing and stream it. But it didn’t work, have you heard of this working at all ?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

No. I'd have to see your setup

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Join the discord discord.gg/PNQZvj4

[@AlegrasoundsAU]

@@DoMusicFullTime hey man can you please send a new invite, its telling me it is invalid xx

[@Samtar]

Thanks dude! This worked wonderfully! Used my old crummy line 6 toneport instead of buying anything!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

My guy

[@jafalamusic]

Awesome, I opted for the "2 interface" method - works great! Also, I figured out how to add a headphone cue mix in Ableton, say 9/10: add another ext. audio effect to the "monitor" chain of the audio effect rack you created, with "audio to" going to 9/10....also, wondering about my "audio settings" in OBS: Is the "monitoring device" my "good interface" as opposed to the "janky interface"? I'm assuming so..thanks so much for your wisdom!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

I use the janky interface for OBS and my good interface as the input and output interface for Ableton. This way when I record guitars or vocals I'm using the best preamps I have to go into Ableton.

[@jafalamusic]

@@DoMusicFullTime Thanks for getting back to me -Yes, this is how I've set it up, following your tutorial. But what I'm confused by is this: In "Audio/Advanced/Monitoring Device" settings in the OBS software, if I set up my monitoring device as the janky interface, does that mean I'm hearing what's going out to the streaming world? Or does it matter? .. Right now, my monitoring device is the "good" interface (Saffire Pro 40) and it sounds great to me! Thanks again for your tutorial; I spent way too many hours with Soundflower trying to figure this out..

[@jafalamusic]

@@DoMusicFullTime I ran into an issue today while streaming to my class, that I was wondering if there's an obvious fix. I was using your 2 interface system (brilliant!), and I wanted to stream my desktop sound as well as my Saffire (my good interface) while I give a short imovie tutorial.I don't want to mess with the computer outputs/inputs, as I have these going through Saffire. Is there an easy way to set this up on my Mac?

[@jafalamusic]

Using Ableton, btw...

[@jafalamusic]

OK - just figured it out with the Loopback demo....

[@christinab520]

Very informative! Thanks 😊

[@supavizorbeats1280]

thanks a lot but how to do it with using 2 computer?

[@djyoungslade]

Can you better explain how to set it up with 2 computers? How do I mirror my screen onto the 2nd computer?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

I'll make a video in the next week about it. Stay tuned.

[@zanderryz]

@@DoMusicFullTime First off, thank you so much for making this video. This was incredibly helpful! Quick question, after watching the whole video, I was left still a bit confused on which option is actually better. I have the ability to do both options you mentioned. I have an Apollo Twin X and a 2020 Mac Book Pro and I also have a focusrite 2i4 AND an older 2013 MacBook pro. Am I better off setting myself up with two computers? Thanks again! you've earned my subscription!

[@zanderryz]

Had to come back and mention, that stash is absolutely killer. I salute you, good sir

[@zanderryzinski953]

@@zanderryz = ( I'm absolutely losing my mind over here. I got everything to work perfectly using the 2 audio interface setup you explained. Took my laptop to my buddies and upon returning, with the same settings, now every time I stream from OBS to Castr.io there is a crazy echo... For the life of me, I cannot understand why, or what I did to make this happen. I've just spent the last 5 hours, combing the internet to find a solution and I'm finding nothing. Any thoughts?!

[@alistairmakesmusic]

@@DoMusicFullTime is the video already out? ☺️

[@jay4kk]

super helpful!!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Thank you!

[@JohnJamesPhoto]

how do i get my live mic audio that is being processed by ableton to be picked up so i can use my good audio processing for input in obs?

[@xtldubz]

Thank you for this tutorial!

[@BradleyMarcus]

any tips on cheap capture cards? found one on amazon for 25 bucks - or do you only recommend delgato.

[@DoMusicFullTime]

For a camera or a two computer setup?

[@BradleyMarcus]

@@DoMusicFullTime two computer set up

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Use NDI kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqKUo4uCmL2Fgq8

[@samhudsonmusic1]

Can you do this in Logic Pro?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Absolutely

[@indijeane4267]

I’m really interested in an in depth video on loopback 2 there really isn’t anything on KZbin for this

[@DoMusicFullTime]

I might do one

[@indijeane4267]

@@DoMusicFullTime yessss!!!

[@primatensohn4361]

that is exactly what i searched for!! thanks mate!!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Here to help!

[@lsaacToast]

How is performance on a MacBook Air M1? Will it still be necessary to freeze tracks? Thanks.

[@DoMusicFullTime]

I have a buddy with one. I'll see if I can run a test

[@lsaacToast]

@@DoMusicFullTime Thanks. Cant wait to hear your results. BTW this is off-topic but adjacent: I ran into an issue with Logic while doing a screen recording with just Quick Time on my 2020 M1 MacBook Air where punch-in's became overdubs. Not totally sure why I am even mentioning it but it may be interesting to some of your viewers to hear about weird, random bugs even with all Apple software.

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Yea apple is not immune to coding errors. I'll let you know when I get a test going!

[@AnnaAwe]

Thank you for this info!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Of course. Any questions?

[@TerryMaplePoco]

really helpful thanks so much!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Thank you!

[@JUSTMANGAMING]

what if i had 2 macbook pros would that work smoother

[@DoMusicFullTime]

That would work okay. But it would not be ideal. If you had two already then that's fine. If you're going to buy another laptop I would just get a PC laptop to do your encoding.

[@Tapepusher]

Is it really that simple to send the video to another another mac, just attach it via cam link/hdmi and the other mac will just mirror the screen? I love the idea of offloading the visuals to another machine but I suspect it’s not that easy?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

It is that easy my man

[@BrysonPrice]

I’m actually planning on making a similar Hackintosh build with that same processor. Is it running smooth for you?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

It is. I never update anything. I had a massive pain getting it to work. Might or might not be worth it for you. It's not a joy to get working or trouble shoot.

[@BrysonPrice]

@@DoMusicFullTime are you on facebook or instagram? I'd like to ask you some other questions :D

[@DoMusicFullTime]

@timaholic on every platform

[@BrysonPrice]

The Live Streaming Musician got it 👌🏼

[@MikeyLikesItt]

Hey bro, thanks for the info!!! I've been checking around doing research on recording DAW into OBS, I first used virtual cables/black hole and have been referred to other software/virtual cable setups and loopback, After fiddling with all audio settings and routings and banging my head against a wall "inside the box", I've decided to go with a 2nd interface, using 3/4out into 1/2 in, into OBS, I use scarlett 18i6 plus scarlett octopre for a total of 16 inputs with live drums and everything, trying to avoid multichannel audio sources inside ableton, and using the intended soundcard to avoid all latency, and using hardware connections... problem solved, clean as a whistle I was concerned I use Mac LAPTOP, 16GB i7 with a terabyte SD, So far I haven't hit any walls in my processing to my knowledge, but the interface is in the mail, and il be putting it all to the test once I get situated , first and foremost thanks for cutting out all the bullshit of virtual audio routing , I haven't checked out your music yet, but il have a look see here soon. obviously I'm using 2nd interface, (3rd) lol but I'm not intending to use another laptop, il keep your words in the back of my mind and keep an eye on my processor once I get everything up and running, but if I encounter any issue with this can I contact you concerning CPU? thanks a lot

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Of course! I do consultations all the time for involved setups.

[@MikeyLikesItt]

sick man, I gotta wait and see how my computer reacts, I thought my mac would be plenty, and I'm a gear slut, but I find obstacles at every advancement, il let you know how it goes, thx for the content

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Absolutely! Thanks for stopping by and saying hi!

[@thebreathcenter108]

Hey! do you do consulting on these things? Would love to talk to someone who understands how it works. We've been researching for days, and still no audio from OBS except for media input.

[@DoMusicFullTime]

I do. Hit me on Instagram @timaholic

[@finanzieron]

Hey! Great Video. But I'm still stuck. I need your help. I have the Xenyx 302 USB interface and iShowU audio capture but when I go to OBS and try to select an Audio Output Capture device the "DEVICE" field is empty and does not allow me to select anything at all. Why is this?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

That I'm not sure of

[@24bosshoggin]

And which is better for music streaming streamlabs or obs?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

I usually tell people to try both and see what they like

[@noname-ji8sd]

Would this work if i connected the cables to the speakers output instead, i got a scarlett 2i2 with 2 channels but it only has the speakers outputs and am thinking on buying another one if it would work, would it?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Absolutely

[@Thomasgeds]

In regards to live streaming acoustic drums, If I buy a gopro with a mini hdmi adaptor and plug it into my interface or mixer, do I still have to buy a capture card?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Most likely Yes. I don't believe the gopro can send video over usb. You can try to send video over USB. But for HDMI you will need a capture card.

[@DoMusicFullTime]

It looks like you can over USB depending on the model you have. Here's a video I found explaining it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4exe5ijpLCtrsU

[@Thomasgeds]

The Live Streaming Musician Do I have to buy a capture card that is $300-$400? I have seen some for as low as $100 that shoot at 60fps but don’t know if they will work for this application.

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Any capture card will work. But if course you get what you pay for. Some cheaper cards have latency and don't make it easy to get live drumming synced up with the audio. you can always buy one try it and return it if it doesn't work as long as you're within the return policy. I just generally try to buy things once and not spend the time messing with them.

[@christianxmanuel]

dude, you're brilliant. thanks a lot!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Thank you!

[@dexondabeat]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge !!! xxx

[@DoMusicFullTime]

I'm here to help

[@AlexEzmaRey]

Audio Hijack is around $50 and does the same as Loopback

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Nice! I'll check it out

[@AlexEzmaRey]

@@DoMusicFullTime Thank you for very thorough yet easy to understand video!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

I appreciate you watching!

[@EricBishard]

I could just use two MOTU M4's right?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Any two interfaces should work

[@mateoconk]

Realized I have an iRig sitting around… boom. Connect to second Mac. Thanks for the help.

[@DoMusicFullTime]

That's awesome! Hopefully it worked!

[@musicsamples-electronicdan9717]

Great Job, many thanks for featuring 💚 😉

[@tessaelaina]

so, question...I've got a brand new mac mini (3.2GHz i7 16GB RAM) should I worry about processing power while producing on ableton AND streaming, or should I be good?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Yes. That computer will struggle to do both well unfortunately.

[@tessaelaina]

@@DoMusicFullTime fekk.

[@tessaelaina]

@@DoMusicFullTime thanks for the reply!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Of course. I am in the process of moving my whole life to Windows because Apple has completely dropped the ball.

[@tessaelaina]

@@DoMusicFullTime oh jeez, to hear that is disturbing...I JUST got this mac mini. welp...

[@mantravine]

amazing video, thank you for sharing the 2 interface technique. i got a question about it. i tried the streaming without your "master stream rack" on ableton and the audio seemed to come out fine for streaming and recording. I even found this technique worked for logic. So it got me asking the question, is the rack required (the one with utility and external audio effect)?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

No. It's just a way to have more control over outputs

[@mantravine]

@@DoMusicFullTime YOU ROCK BRO. Your videos ARE AMAZING. Thank you

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Thank you for watching!

[@chillsessionsrecords]

@@DoMusicFullTime hey i got another question...u said for this technique to work you needed one interface with 4 outputs and one with 2 right? is it possible to use your technique with 2 audio interfaces with only 2 outputs for each interface?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Yes but you will sacrifice the ability to use speakers for that configuration

[@24bosshoggin]

I run my desktop audio out of my headphone jack in my primary interface into a single input on my secondary, do I need to run two outputs into the second or would this work?

[@DoMusicFullTime]

With most of these things you'll just need to test them. I'm not sure about that configuration.

[@ethantrimble9845]

Thanks this video was tremendously done! And I now understand that I just need a way stronger desktop... lol that being said. Any desktop computers that you'd reccomend me getting if I were to have a just one computer setup? Having 2 computers and 2 audio interfaces seem a lil nuts if i can just have a badass computer. thanks!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Something with a new nvidia gpu is the move. Then you can encode OBS using your Nvidia graphics card and use the processor for music.

[@ethantrimble9845]

@@DoMusicFullTime thanks! Appreciate it. Time to get a badass computer then!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Hell yea

[@VoyageBagage]

our routing physically the output of your audio interface to the audio input of my old 17" macbook pro

[@DoMusicFullTime]

I use two interfaces

[@TheOnlyToast]

Can u pleeeeeeeease do a video about how to set up your Komplete Audio 2? Where to download stuff, what to download and all that... would love it!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Mac or pc

[@TheOnlyToast]

Pc 😁

[@TheOnlyToast]

My problem is that i got it connected to my pc but I have no clue about sound software and I can't hear myself playing yet.. I've downloaded studio one but cant record/listen to myself 😕 All I want is to stream myself playing live and to record while i'm playing Btw keep up the great content!

[@TheOnlyToast]

Not sure if you're actually about to make a Video on that topic... But I've found not a Single person who uploaded a Video of the moments between unboxing the device to plugging it in, to downloading the needed software... all that in depth stuff is jumped over by most people on youtube. I think you would actually be the first one to do a guide for super noobs (like me).. So I would really apriciate that *.* sorry for bad english

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Thank you for watching!

[@godforreal7355]

2 interfaces? That's silly. Why can't you direct monitor your mic and use blackhole to route to obs? If it clicks and pops, increase your buffer size. Maybe 13 ms latency before you use compensation.

[@DoMusicFullTime]

You should use whatever method you want. I use two interfaces because it imparts no additional stress on the CPU. There are less latency issues using two interfaces than using software. Whatever works for you is the right answer for you.

[@squalley]

11:35 it does it to me just outta nowhere and I don’t stream 🤦‍♂️ I think it’s just a lil buggy

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Yea. I don't use it or recommend it

[@bolshii600]

Blueprint download error. Restore would be great :)

[@PatrikMatheson]

I feel attacked, you hit it on the head. Thanks man

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Glad I could help!

[@Mr.Plutonium]

I wonder how the Macbook M1 would handle this today.

[@Afiarchives]

I've got it, watching this tutorial now trying to set my stuff up!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Let me know how it goes!

[@jasonwilliammerrill]

VBCable!!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

My man

[@drowse9327]

all the software is mac specific :(

[@samuelwiseman6217]

your guide didn't come thru

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Did you check your spam folder?

[@wilfred7923]

please blink bro

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Can't

[@ricopundrich9389]

Many people in europe are not using Mac it is cause a gaming PC is much faster sorry. So it does'nt help at all. FAIL!

[@DoMusicFullTime]

Don't worry friend I'm making a video for you