How To Make Modern Rolling Bass in Ableton Live + Vital

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How To Make Modern Rolling Bass in Ableton Live + Vital

[@allfather5972]

On behalf of all Ableton users, thank you! And yes, additional Ableton Live content highly appreciated :)

[@birdsiview6845]

Bro I’m not sure who the best psytrance producer is but you have this shit down to a science! You are like Pythagorean or some shit like that!

[@raulmaureira6090]

Yes. Please more Ableton and Psytrance stuff. I'm just starting out and it's a very big and incomprehensible universe and already with this video you help a lot. But clearly there is still a long way to go. Thanks from chile southamerica

[@baarth8305]

I suggest the channel "You suck at producing" for some elementary stuffs explained like a charms full of metaphors and smart humor Not related to psytrance but anyway the basics are the fundamentals without regards to a certaine music genre

[@BrosifMcJoseph]

That whole wavetable creation blew my mind

[@blewsyboy]

A+ for Ableton, and Vital, poor Vital sitting there watching me on PP all the time...

[@neuronist]

please more of this! :)

[@rec.19]

In the EQ parts of this video it isn't necessary to mention this but if you guys want to mess around with the low frequencies with cuts or narrow boosts the EQ Eight Device can be changed to Hi-Quality by right clicking and changing the option. Hi-Quality mode will put the EQ in natural phase otherwise it will be zero latency which can mess up the phase.

[@jethrobrewin]

Live user here, so always good to see more informed content in the environment I use and it's in the stock theme too, which makes it super clear and familiar for most viewers. .

[@Fractal_sol]

everytime i see dash glitch tutorial its regarding making bass :D

[@DashGlitch]

😁 haha I think those are just the one which get popular in the algorithm and then get recommended, I generally try leave a few months between bass videos

[@Galaxis-X]

Bro you can check the video which i attached in comment up and maybe tell us more advices how to implement those routings in our own wavetable basses 🙂​@@DashGlitch

[@DashGlitch]

Yes I've done the split bass before ;)

[@vsp237]

Yea. Pls more Ableton stuff

[@callmesleeper]

Now we need a video of you comparing Cubase and Bitwig to Live(ableton)

[@jazznutz]

Way above my paygrade!

[@DoctorJRx]

Awesome Dash !!!

[@TheHologr4m]

The strength of global Psytrance.

[@SwissatHeart]

that was the single most vital information ever given to me - you make it look easy

[@Projektor_music]

what kind of alternative universe did I just walk into here???

[@lX-NDR]

ableton rules!

[@alexkid1]

More ableton stuff please ❤️

[@IngoGarza]

Would you consider doing a "VST best of 2023" video? I would love that!

[@DashGlitch]

Check my video from last week :)

[@Osax-music]

Very well explained, thanks!

[@Maradnus]

My condolences for using abelton. Great work in vital! Some fantastic tips & I too have been working out how to get that “post ring” under control!

[@Bruce73X]

So many good hints in this one! Great work!

[@ISO_EXO-tg8ic]

Stay on Ableton pls ur tuto are lovely

[@dalienie]

Thanks for this video as I jumping directly from Reason to Ableton several years ago :)

[@djjaye]

Great video yes loads more Ableton stuff would be perfect how about retro trance like 2000s tips and tricks. plus keep it going into Ableton 12 i want to learn that one fast many thanks.

[@marcos.3028]

great video ❤ being an ableton user myself, I always love seeing you cooking in ableton...Got your Kilohearts Bank recently and I love it so much! Keep up the great work my G!

[@thlLd]

You are in ableton now? Welcome!

[@DashGlitch]

I’m still using bitwig personally :)

[@subject_ultra]

very nice

[@ivca649]

I learned to synthesize the bass from a video of yours from 5 years ago. I was surprised by this new one. Same content, but way more refined. Nice groove patterns, btw. And yes to ableton. Tks.

[@florianstrobel9065]

Last Trick is fire!!!

[@blueeyedcat3443]

Thaaannnnkssss !!!

[@dominikhaering]

I know this "modern" bass from the 90s and it was called GOA

[@DashGlitch]

Yes use of disperser was rampant in the 90s :P

[@Asafdado]

Thanks Dash! plz make more abelton content:)

[@juanhincapie7234]

This is so useful! Thanks so much for this Amazing content, for sure ableton tutorials will be much appreciated! By any chance have you considered to make Hard Dance / Hard Bass tutorials? I think many Psytrance knowledge could be apply on this styles

[@AndyPost]

Thx

[@ma3boch]

Thank you, my friend, and we want you to make a video about Control Room / Listen Bus on Ableton ❤

[@ma3boch]

@@goutham9697 salsa mia

[@DashGlitch]

Il try make a solution but I think it will be difficult compared to bitwig

[@ma3boch]

@@DashGlitch Thank you, brother, as always 🥰

[@dimension3plus]

Thanks for another Ableton Live Tut! But where are all of your Live Stream Videos? Gone?

[@DashGlitch]

unlisted, links are in my discord, don't want to clog the feeds with long boring sessions :D

[@dimension3plus]

Found them thanks. @@DashGlitch

[@phantazein]

More Ableton stuff

[@buckycore]

I think as Bitwig users, we should be using Abelton along side. I honestly think they compliment each other and not nessisarily compete or seem redundant. Abelton has some majestic out of the box Midi FX (especially what is to come in Abelton 12), all those rad Max for live stuff, plus better controller support over all, wher as Bitwig is about the inventiveness with the grid, modulation, strange midi FX and serendipity with the magical operators and such. I plan on getting Abelton at some point soon just to have more options

[@AlexanderCook87]

Hey Dash, with the year coming to an end just curious if you picked up and cool eurorack modules this year? I got my hands on a Mindphaser and it made me think of you.

[@SwissatHeart]

thx man

[@Chaibabba]

good content, love it! what about chillpsy like alwoods, profondita etc. would you like to show some downtempo stuff? greets

[@PspkCz]

8:57 part 2

[@richardstephenson8113]

Do you have a recommendation between Ableton and Bitwig for someone new to music production Dash? More for Idm/ambient techno type stuff... Great videos btw, love your ones on Renoise too - do you still use it? Cheers, rich

[@DashGlitch]

I haven’t in a few months but I would def suggest bitwig, that’s my personal choice atleast

[@richardstephenson8113]

@@DashGlitch Cheers for a reply to a boring question! I was leaning towards Ableton just because of the amount of learning resources out there but seeing as you've released a bitwig course that might be a good route to go down.. Renoise looks interesting but overall less versatile would you say? I've got a Digitakt and like the step sequencer approach.

[@paradoxic1888]

Thanks a mate of mine is interested in trance and I haven't created this genre before. Do you ever add additional harmonics to the trance bass, or is it just one sawtooth?

[@DashGlitch]

Not add but perhaps adjust with EQ

[@Vince0ffer]

Would it fair to say it is important to learn about all the sounds and their waves before diving in in this detail?

[@DashGlitch]

Yea and no, bass is pretty important and if you have a good grasp of it, you can throw anything on top and it will 50/50 be a banger haha

[@TERALIVETUBE]

Very nice Dash!1 How about setting bass decay to 1/16 (or equivalent in ms) size to avoid this overlaying>

[@DashGlitch]

Yea but post processing with multiband or linear-phase will affect that, hence why the resample

[@user-ld8hh2il7v]

Nice post! I like the trick of resample the bass and then use it as an oscillator but watch out... Your Ableton tutorials cannot be better than the Bitwig ones 😂

[@DashGlitch]

Thanks! 😀

[@hairottoquestonnce]

Thank u Dash! Really like this tutorial. I didn't understand where you got the waveform from to import it into the Vital oscillator. You are referring to a folder, but which one? Please, could you explain it to me?

[@DashGlitch]

The folder where you render out the sample

[@hairottoquestonnce]

Did you render out the sample from the midi track in the blank channel that you use like example?

[@bananaroch5306]

If that makes any sense yes

[@AminNeverBrokeAgain]

Plz More ableton stuff

[@uxartmusicvideo-andphotogr2043]

I recommend using bass cabinet impulse response or real bass cabinet to give character and better sound for bass.

[@DashGlitch]

For me that tends to saturate the sound and make it a bit muddy and also it resonates at specific frequencies depending on the size of the cabinet, so it might work for some notes but maybe not so good for others. I'd just alter the harmonics in the synthesizer to fit your taste.

[@felipearaujo180]

Yes, Ableton LIVE brown! Do you want a skin pack for Ableton Live?

[@DashGlitch]

No I like to keep default for videos but thank you

[@MaZeBeaTs01]

🕉️🎼🙏

[@sleepalldayandnight]

im wondering that you dont use the EQ that much. fo example im useing the EQ to lowcut the bassline on its rootkey. i tought the lowest space is for the kick so i seperate it from the bassline evrytime. fo example if the rootkey of my bassline is F im doing a 48x lowcut at 43.654Hz. it feels much "cleaner" and im doing it all the time and now im asking myself if its wrong.

[@DashGlitch]

If you synthesize a sound at the root, there is nothing that exists below it, and no need to EQ it, I find it much better to adjust the envelope to remove any "boominess" etc. The EQ will only serve to add some phase difference or post/pre-ring, if you like that it's fine but I prefer to have control inside the synthesizer for this

[@rec.19]

@@DashGlitch Agreed! Getting a good source will always be better than trying to fix it post. It was the case in analog domain and still is in the digital.

[@sleepalldayandnight]

​@@DashGlitch ahh okay i understand thanks for the fast awnser :) so if its is not exactly wrong and it works fine for me theres no need to change it :D

[@rec.19]

@@sleepalldayandnight This is what makes Art so personal and awesome to make, there are good and bad ways to do it but no rights or wrongs. Whatever you want to make is up to you.

[@alfa156c]

nice video thumbs up 243

[@alfa156c]

2300clicks to 243 thumbs up is very good

[@aidennymes6335]

Vital has a OSC manipulator called "phase dispersion" wich you can resample to a wavetable

[@DashGlitch]

It sounds pretty bad for bass though, did you try it?

[@aidennymes6335]

@@DashGlitch you are right. just using the modifier doesn't do the trick but the magic in the resampling part. I actually did go a step further and am now manually phase dispersing my saw harmonics in the harmonics editor. most of the time I just have to manually adjust the first few harmonics and it sounds great if you get the hang out of it.

[@PspkCz]

Btw Bass done by drift is also easy

[@DashGlitch]

I didn't find it very accurate to be honest, the envelopes were a bit unstable and phase retrigger wasn't on the start point every time, it worked better for synth sounds for me. Operator or Wavetable are much more accurate, however for more modern sound I like wavetable import of processed final bass sound, and the ability to adjust the phase there-after.

[@PspkCz]

@@DashGlitch yeah, this morning I tried reconstruct bass according this video but with wavetable and shaper... But thats alittle nightmare ... But im trying do everything with stock devices because i want to use push3...

[@va941]

Once again i missed the live stream.....godddämmit.....i was too busy playing the New PUBG map, wich is fire btw, made it to top 10 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂..DASH! Do you do 1on1 consultation? I value your skill/knowledge very high, for obvious reasons, and would like to run a couple tracks by you? Maybe i will slide in your DM's on the discord....😂 Liked! Too bad i cant subsribe a second time😂😂😂😂

[@DashGlitch]

Yea I have a Patreon Inner-circle tier with various perks, one of which is a mentorship program :)

[@va941]

@@DashGlitch God send💖 will have to par-take!

[@Windiguana]

You're making a pretty big assumption that us Abelton users can just Google something 😅

[@DashGlitch]

haha

[@frequency_sequencer]

Return of real men's real daw lol

[@Italliving]

hahaha ,edit : Well you did use Ableton 😏 and a bag of tools , a challenge will be keep it in the daw