How to MAKE the MCU Spider-Man 4

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@spider-man500
@spider-man500 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see a team up with Daredevil. To show him the darker, and more grounded side of criminals.
@user-ze3lk1ov5b
@user-ze3lk1ov5b 2 жыл бұрын
That would be the best thing ever Spider-Man and Daredevil forever ☺️
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, criminals like Still-Man, Matador, or Leap-Frog.
@mangomicrowave6565
@mangomicrowave6565 2 жыл бұрын
@@mayotango1317 Big Wheel
@Frogman1212
@Frogman1212 2 жыл бұрын
@@mayotango1317 As long as Peter doesn't have to go head-to-head with Guts Nelson.
@harshithn4810
@harshithn4810 2 жыл бұрын
That'd be cool but ngl, I kinda want it Spider-Man to be the only superhero in the movie with no one else appearing
@webwarrior_08
@webwarrior_08 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the primary thing people want from the next trilogy is a darker and more serious tone to reflect college life. The stakes should also be on a smaller scale like ordinary street crime or organized crime. Another idea would be that, instead of having the Avengers connection, Peter becomes close with other vigilantes like Daredevil, Moon Knight, Luke Cage, etc.
@CD-603
@CD-603 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly summed up. More character development as well
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 2 жыл бұрын
But in the end we saw him study for a GED test, he will not go to college.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 жыл бұрын
@@mayotango1317 Didn’t even know what that was until you said it
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 2 жыл бұрын
@@mayotango1317 Yeah he can a GED test is a high school equivalency diploma, so you can use it to apply to college or for a job resume, just like you would with a high school diploma. This credential serves as a diploma showing you have a 12 grade level knowledge base, even if you "didn’t graduate from high school" Of course Peter is a genius he would go to college but not the same as MJ and Ned(MIT). if he is not going to college, he wouldn't be studying for the GED test in the first place.
@showmeyourmoves8551
@showmeyourmoves8551 2 жыл бұрын
@@CD-603 they already tease Symbiote so grounded may not be the direction.
@BryanSeeker
@BryanSeeker 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t know where you go with Spider-Man next but I like this a lot. Personally I’d like see a grounded Chameleon and a more physiological thriller with Spider-Man struggling his image and fighting an idea more than a villain.
@daviddyster4145
@daviddyster4145 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see him for the second film in the post no way home era.
@milkiassamuel780
@milkiassamuel780 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, didn't some rumours say Sony were actually planning on using Chameleon for their Kraven solo film, since Kraven and Chameleon are brothers.
@daviddyster4145
@daviddyster4145 2 жыл бұрын
@@milkiassamuel780 Rumours I hope are true.
@juicytitan5501
@juicytitan5501 2 жыл бұрын
This was my exact idea for the next spiderman movie😅
@zzeroara9511
@zzeroara9511 2 жыл бұрын
i want the middle movie of the next trilogy to be about Matt helping him take on chameleon and scorpion with peter struggling as chameleon frames peter for constantly losing battles and making the public lose faith in him only for scorpion to jump him and get help from matt. THAT would be a great middle movie to me, we haven't seen peter struggle this way yet in the mcu.
@SpookyGhost11
@SpookyGhost11 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I want the franchise to have more grounded stories, maybe dealing with gang crimes and a more dramatic tone. But if they keep pushing for more comic accuracy either way, I'm all in.
@chato.
@chato. 2 жыл бұрын
It’d be awesome if Spider-Man teams up with daredevil to fight defender level style gangs like hammerhead
@Plainshots.oobros
@Plainshots.oobros 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if the dramatic theme fits spiderman But its neat theory
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 2 жыл бұрын
I could honestly see him team up with Daredevil, that would be neat and would go with your idea
@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460
@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460 2 жыл бұрын
Peter should try to stop a gangwar between Toombstone maybe an albino and Hammerhead with someone else convincing everyone to fight
@Dr_Procrastinator
@Dr_Procrastinator 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like that would be cool to see but we'd miss out on alot of established Spider-Man stuff. I feel that can be a middle ground where Peter fights gangs but they are Run by the Kingpin and overseen by his classic villains like Scorpion and Think, maybe even Mr Negative. I think it would be cool to have Mr Negative take over Feast and Peter finding out he's a villain wpuld be heartbreaking because it tarnishes Aunt May work at feast, helping people.
@MovieFlame
@MovieFlame 2 жыл бұрын
This was really well made. I agreed with pretty much everything you said. Keep up the good work!
@harryfleutv666
@harryfleutv666 2 жыл бұрын
Dude! I watch your videos, I didn't expect to see you here!
@daviddyster4145
@daviddyster4145 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know you watched SUPER FRAME.
@thesuperframe
@thesuperframe 2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddyster4145 he was actually one of my first subscribers when I only had 1,000 subs, he went by aandawesome back then
@thesuperframe
@thesuperframe 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear from you man been a while, good to see your channels going well
@kazukiifn7417
@kazukiifn7417 5 ай бұрын
@@harryfleutv666same this was unexpected
@REaDComicsau
@REaDComicsau 2 жыл бұрын
I think Black Cat is a must. Tom would do great working off Felicia Hardy.
@donbirkinshaw1630
@donbirkinshaw1630 2 жыл бұрын
i would prfer felica over gwen to be honest for a few reasons no dis respect to gwen tho and those reasons are 1. gwen was alreayd sued and used well i might ad as emma sotne and andrew agreilf are usually the 2 most priased parts of those movies and if you introduced gwen youbhave another problem with ehr charatcer essentaillyhaving a ticking clock on her coutign down until she dies as everyones knwos shes surpose to die..the thign that amde gwens dath worked is ebcuase no ones saw it coming and was surpiseing..the movies got awyaw ith thsi due the msot common people not reading books and the first trilogy skipping over her abd down playing her importance and due to her detah being fmaous it would be far to obviosue to see it coming and wa salryead done ocne on screen..so isntead of useing classic gwen stacey i think they should use a live action spider-gwen and get the actress that plays sbarina to play her as she alreayd looks like her and is young enough to pull it off and its a veiriosn of her charatcer that ahsnt been seen on screen before...and 2. felicahardy black hasnt really bene sued before out side a breif apperacne in tasm that went nowhere so theirs more pretentual to explore..you could do it simulerly to spdie-rman the animated seires where felica is a friend. prentuanly love interest at college that later on becomes the black cat in a future movie or something and helps make the realtinioship with balkc cat and spdie-rman seem less awkard and preditory for afully grwon adult cwoman to go after a teenager so making her young ealry 20s college studant closer to the age of peter but maybe a couple years older wold work better and be less promlematic..kind of like in the ultamite unvise when balck cat found out spidey was a teenager she puked in her mouth
@chris-cx9fq
@chris-cx9fq 2 жыл бұрын
Anya Taylor Joy for Black Cat
@REaDComicsau
@REaDComicsau 2 жыл бұрын
@@chris-cx9fq I don’t see that honestly, it should someone older than Tom
@theobuniel9643
@theobuniel9643 2 жыл бұрын
@@REaDComicsau Somebody suggested either Jodie Comer or Samara Weaving, both of whom are older than Tom by a few years (which deletes a bit of the creepy factor). Someone also suggested Ana de Armas, but until that Marilyn Monroe movie of hers comes out, I don’t think she can pull off a perfect American accent just yet.
@REaDComicsau
@REaDComicsau 2 жыл бұрын
@@theobuniel9643 Jodie comer could work
@IStandForTJandTAW
@IStandForTJandTAW 2 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be honest, Daredevil deserves a full movie if not just more of a continuation of that series.
@douglasdickinson1877
@douglasdickinson1877 2 жыл бұрын
@@dakshdhingra2221 daredevil is one of the major characters in all of marvel comics…i think he deserves the budget of a film and a trilogy of movies(at least)
@adonishardaway5106
@adonishardaway5106 2 жыл бұрын
@@douglasdickinson1877 he doesn’t need a trilogy he’s a street level hero it’s Alr proved it works best in a tv format
@mr.iiconic
@mr.iiconic 2 жыл бұрын
@@adonishardaway5106 Spider-Man is arguably street level too.
@jayku8857
@jayku8857 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.iiconic Spiderman has more city level stakes and criminals that can be resolved in one movie
@trevturp6891
@trevturp6891 2 жыл бұрын
daksh dhingra Wrong, Daredevil should have a movie.
@fanoffiction2033
@fanoffiction2033 2 жыл бұрын
I’m loving allllll of this, but I would also like this new trilogy to explore some of the secondary civilian characters in Peter’s life like Jonah, Robbie, maybe Jean DeWolffe or Yuri, and maybe some of Peter’s new neighbors. Something to maybe show how Peter’s life does have an impact on other people outside of Spidey. Maybe Jonah softens the more he interacts with Peter.
@NoOne0527
@NoOne0527 2 жыл бұрын
We need Mr Ditkovich to be his landlord 😂
@hunterprice3320
@hunterprice3320 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoOne0527 give me rent!!!!!
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 2 жыл бұрын
That is a really good idea
@pidgey3734
@pidgey3734 2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterprice3320 you'll get your rent when you fix this DAMN DOOR
@hunterprice3320
@hunterprice3320 2 жыл бұрын
@@pidgey3734 He is a good boy. He must be in some kind of trouble.
@jpdeleon4829
@jpdeleon4829 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Kingpin getting tired of Spidey and making/hiring villains to distract him. I think Kraven and Chameleon could also work well in this movie.
@jessicastrike5640
@jessicastrike5640 2 жыл бұрын
For me his college trilogy should be a look into his darker side, introduce Black Cat absolutely along with Tombstone, Chameleon and Kraven and bring Vulture, Tinkerer, Shocker and Scorpion back, and obviously pay off the symbiotic tease. There’s a lot of potential but I am concerned that Osborne and Octavius etc will be locked off now, I refuse to believe Spider-Man would meet Norman or Otto and not immediately be on his guard following his encounters with the alternative universe counterparts, and even Gwen and Harry, it would take some very careful storytelling. I love the organised crime angle and definitely think this is the approach that should be taken and if they can pull of Osborne I would love to see it, basically the way Spectacular Spider-Man did it
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 2 жыл бұрын
But in the end we saw him study for a GED test, he will not go to college.
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 2 жыл бұрын
@@mayotango1317 Yeah he can bro, a GED test is basically a Diploma and he is a genius so he is gonna past and obviously he is going if he is not going to college, he wouldn't be studying for the GED test in the first place.
@badollies
@badollies 2 жыл бұрын
A live action mcu spidey show that is as good as spectacular would be SO amazing but I’ll take what spidey I can get
@MRdaBakkle
@MRdaBakkle 2 жыл бұрын
@@mayotango1317 A GED is equal to a high school diploma and you can still get into a college with a GED score. Might be as simple as Empire State U.
@javiersalles4155
@javiersalles4155 2 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if peter accidentally ‘creates’ the goblin out of fear. For example, Peter meets osborne and find outs that he’s working on some kind of super serum, out of fear that he will become the goblin Spiderman steals the serum and research. Osborne then feels vulnerable, or angry, or both and decides to inject himself with a vial of serum that he was keeping safe. And thus, spiderman creates the goblin (en español se llama “profecía autocumplida” but I don’t know how it is called in English)
@MegaOscan
@MegaOscan 2 жыл бұрын
Something that I would like to see in a new Spider-Man film is him in college and being all alone in the world, wondering if he can get to know, or be close to other people without them getting hurt by him being Spider-Man, at the same time we would see J Jonah Jameson being tricked into funding the research of one Alistair Smythe and his Spider Slayers, which will also lead to Mac Gargan becoming the Scorpion.
@ymellow.
@ymellow. 2 жыл бұрын
scorpion is already in the MCU
@rohithkumar8708
@rohithkumar8708 2 жыл бұрын
@@ymellow.mac gargan is in it. he's not scorpion yet
@pian-0g445
@pian-0g445 2 жыл бұрын
@@ymellow. that’s what he’s saying. JJ can find it so he can be scorpion properly
@doordev8237
@doordev8237 2 жыл бұрын
I think Spider-Man 4 should be called "Ultimate Spider-Man". Through MCU peter's new suit, you can tell he is taking a lot of inspiration from Tobey, Andrew and himself. So he could very well become a combination of the good things about Tobey, Andrew and himself, and if this is the case, he would basically be the Ultimate Spider-Man.
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a cool title to his next trilogy or even the spectacular spider-man
@lightningbeast4556
@lightningbeast4556 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t mcu Spider-Man take inspiration from ultimate and earth 616 Spider-Man
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 2 жыл бұрын
@@lightningbeast4556 All spider-man has taken isnpiration(kinda) the spider-man of Andrew did it example Oscorp was related when the spider bite Peter(Also it did bring back the web shoters) but yeah its like you say
@joshlonden8949
@joshlonden8949 2 жыл бұрын
I'd prefer Spectacular
@B0ne8
@B0ne8 2 жыл бұрын
If it were to be called “ultimate Spider-Man” I’d cry that means Peter is gonna die ): bitter sweat tho cause we’ll get miles. Also would much rather the film be called “Spider-Man 4” since we’ve never had a 4th and the poster can be Spider-Man pointing both hand out to shoot webs making a 4.
@ebube_mx7019
@ebube_mx7019 2 жыл бұрын
I would love for the 5th movie in the MCU Spider-Man movies to be something like Spider-Man: Black & White. Focusing on Black Cat, the Black suit and Mister Negative. Maybe also introduce Kraven
@thesuperframe
@thesuperframe 2 жыл бұрын
exactly what I was thinking, have the moral message of the movie be something along the lines of controlling ones rage, trauma, anger or darkness within.
@dog8438
@dog8438 2 жыл бұрын
I'd kill to see Mister Negative in an MCU Spider-Man
@LuckyFullmetal
@LuckyFullmetal 2 жыл бұрын
and spider noir
@gorrium5027
@gorrium5027 2 жыл бұрын
Mister Negative would be perfect, his life story is near identical to what peter is going through right now
@adonishardaway5106
@adonishardaway5106 2 жыл бұрын
@TheDevilOfDallas yeah naw
@AKUMARCZ
@AKUMARCZ 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of NWH, Happy says to Peter at the grave something like “I wonder if what they stood for are gone with them”, and Peter says something like “what they stand for continues on through us” Peter should pickup where May left off at FEAST, where he meets Mr. Negative. It would be another NEW villain we haven’t seen on big screen. Also, JJJ could find the Tinkerer (from Homecoming) and work a deal to make suits for Scorpion. Possibly Shocker, and Vulture 2.0 Not to mention they teased the symbiote at the end too. Right there are 3 stories for 3 movies.
@blurryperson2685
@blurryperson2685 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s just too close to the game.
@AKUMARCZ
@AKUMARCZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@blurryperson2685 The Negative Zone is also huge in Fantastic Four stories, so that could be the bridge between Spider-Man and Fantastic 4. Let’s say we’re introduced to the Negative Zone first from Fantastic 4, then we see Spider-Man fight someone with Negative powers, or vis versa (we first see it in Mr. Negative, and then are introduced to the Fantastic 4) It can also lead us closer to a team up between them (Future Foundation)
@titan_tanker
@titan_tanker 2 жыл бұрын
That’s sounds ideal. But then Sony would push that 3 stories into one movie, just like what happened with Spider-Man 3 and TASM 2 🤣
@lazer6655
@lazer6655 2 жыл бұрын
You mean 3 villians not stories for one(or maybe one and a half)we need to worry about the memory loss and how (or if)he can fix it
@base21
@base21 2 жыл бұрын
Can we not use mr.negative. He kinda sucks
@antonissa8345
@antonissa8345 2 жыл бұрын
I think the college trilogy will build up the true MCU Sinister Six. I also think we will get Hobgoblin, if it’s either Kingsley, Ned, Kingsley brainwashing Ned or Jason version we get I definitely think Hobgoblin is coming and that he will be a part of the MCU Sinister Six. Two villains I really hope joins the MCU thanks to Kingpin appearing is two that will make sense for anyone that knows these two characters and those two are Tombstone and Hammerhead. Heck we might even get other villains introduced into the MCU that has connection to Marvel’s criminal underworld like Mr. Negative, Silvermane, The Owl and maybe others with connections to THOSE characters like Cloak & Dagger and Silver Sable.
@donbirkinshaw1630
@donbirkinshaw1630 2 жыл бұрын
the owl already appeared in daredevil season 1 and died and it seems like the daredevil side of netflix is canon de to both actors being back
@Damienp3902
@Damienp3902 2 жыл бұрын
If we get Hobgoblin i hope it’s not Ned Kingsley would be better in my opinion.
@antonissa8345
@antonissa8345 2 жыл бұрын
@@donbirkinshaw1630 that are rebooted versions of the characters and even if I haven’t seen the series I can feel they really underplayed The Owl in the series. What makes The Owl unique from just being a lesser Kingpin is his abilities. In the comics Owl can glide in the air thanks to a serum he took. The same serum would however also warp his mind making him more animalistic, having sharp claws and eating rats and such stuff. That’s what makes him a special character and not just a discount Kingpin. But that is what they did with him in the series.
@donbirkinshaw1630
@donbirkinshaw1630 2 жыл бұрын
no its not confirmed to be a reboot you jsut made that up..netflix daredevil is canon both charatcers are thier they refernced the shwos and the shwos refefecned the mvoies its finally come full cirle and sicne tyey have used the owl no matter if he was under played it woudl eb inconsitent to usut brign him back
@donbirkinshaw1630
@donbirkinshaw1630 2 жыл бұрын
@@Damienp3902 i can never see ned leeds becoming the hob goblin he sjug doesnt fit it..even in the comics it was an iea thatw as pulled out fo their ass after fumbling the evela of the hobgoblin..chekc out comic tropes for more detials on the history on that but kingsley or jason macondale would make more sense
@turma8eac
@turma8eac 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think this story, kingpin’s final defeat, should be a show. Have everyone he fought team up to defeat him. The show format gives it time to properly show and develop everyone and show how much of a threat he is.
@rayanvij3457
@rayanvij3457 Жыл бұрын
I understand your concern and why you suggest doing a TV Show but all the develop meant you speak of would be done through Echo, Boron Agian, Spiderman 4-6, and maybe some other project(s). This would allow you to have King Pin's finally be a movie without your issues coming to pass.
@BlackHedgehog
@BlackHedgehog 2 жыл бұрын
I really REALLY hope they do something like this. I don't think Matt Murdock appearing in No Way Home was intended as a one time deal. Also Jason Issacs would be a FANTASTIC Norman. I also think college is the best time to introduce characters like Harry, Felicia and Gwen. With the ultimate conclusion perhaps being a reunion with MJ.
@harshithn4810
@harshithn4810 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Green Goblin leading the sinister six on Spiderman 6
@alexh4319
@alexh4319 2 жыл бұрын
Daredevil definitely isn’t a one time deal. He’ll be in She-Hulk and Echo.
@BlackHedgehog
@BlackHedgehog 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexh4319 Meant as far as Daredevil and Spider-Man.
@thesuperframe
@thesuperframe 2 жыл бұрын
UPDATE: just posted a follow up video for Spider-man 5 :) A quick 'how it should be' or 'how to do it' video on the upcoming Spider-Man 4 Marvel Studios n' Sony are making, I've tried to incorporate Daredevil and Kingpin among others in a meaningful way that makes use and highlights the strengths about all of these characters, let me know what you thought of the pitch and what you'd add to the story!!!
@Isaacisaperson4677
@Isaacisaperson4677 2 жыл бұрын
Please do Spider-Man 5
@daviddyster4145
@daviddyster4145 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see your MCU sequel to the Fantastic Four.
@8thgod769
@8thgod769 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I’m not even gon cap I saw the thumbnail almost thot THAT WAS IRON MAN and I was like this man is INSANE
@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460
@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Superframe so you think that daredevil Is the same one from the same Netflix series
@daviddyster4145
@daviddyster4145 2 жыл бұрын
@@sergiosamuelsuazomota9460 he has to be.
@omarndao512
@omarndao512 2 жыл бұрын
LETS GOOOOOO
@darkknightfan7520
@darkknightfan7520 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing spidey and daredevil team up to fight Vincent d’onofrio’s kingpin would be absolutely epic!
@alwf905
@alwf905 2 жыл бұрын
I hope next trilogy is more about grounded crimes because let’s face it, we have never gotten a spidey movie with organized crime, all lf them were about super villains.
@jymehendrix
@jymehendrix Жыл бұрын
Vulture ?
@Adam_X78
@Adam_X78 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy yeah
@maldon3659
@maldon3659 2 жыл бұрын
I want the new trilogy to build up to The Sinister Six funded by Kingpin, with Daredevil, Black Cat, Silvermane, Silver Sable, Norman and Harry Osborne appearing along the way, all while introducing the Hobgoblin who has the Glider, Pumpkin bombs and mask left behind by Willem Dafoe's Norman which inspires MCU Norman to become Green Goblin
@lewisholiman9237
@lewisholiman9237 2 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 5 pitch: Since the No Way Home mid credit scene implied that they’re going to give the black suit storyline another go and you’re setting up Black Cat at the end of Spider-Man 4, maybe they could do a Web of Shadows type thing where she adds to his temptation by serving as a bad influence. When he tells her about how hard it is to balance his personal and superhero lives, she advises him to focus entirely on the ladder and leave the identity of Peter Parker behind. While all of this is happening, we set up this universe’s Eddie Brock, whose life is ruined as a result of Peter’s more brutal heroism imposed on him by the symbiote and Felicia. Realizing this, Peter removes the symbiote and gives a reality check to Felicia, who then redeems herself by helping him beat Venom in the finale and rides off into the sunset for a potential spinoff film. One more thing: she needs to be played by Chloë Grace Mortez. To your point about giving us the long awaited Spider-Man/Daredevil team up without forgetting the lesson of independence that he learned in No Way Home, I think it would be nice to build off the finale of the Daredevil series in favor of the conflict between them. Last time we saw Matt, he blackmailed Fisk into leaving Foggy and Karen alone by threatening to expose Vanessa. So, maybe at some point since then, Vanessa died and Fisk saw no point in keeping his end of the deal anymore. After he had Foggy and Karen killed, Matt felt responsible on account of he could’ve enlisted the Defenders’ help. So, by the time he and Peter meet in this movie, it’s a case of two people dealing with similar losses, but in opposite ways. One is stubborn about relying on someone else since it got his aunt killed, while the other is desperate not to repeat the mistake of taking on Fisk alone. It would be a fun conflict between the characters that utilizes both of their prior experiences. Maybe they could even make it that the reason Matt agreed to represent Peter in No Way Home was so that he’d owe him a favor with specifically this in mind.
@jessicastrike5640
@jessicastrike5640 2 жыл бұрын
I would so watch that Spidey and Daredevil film! I too really want to see Peter and his darker side in this next trilogy, and Black Cat and the symbiotic are the perfect Avenue for that
@davidfont9675
@davidfont9675 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything you said except one thing: I don't think that the MCU's Daredevil and Kingpin are the same ones from the Netflix show (Although I'd love if they are the same). Mainly because in the Netflix show Kingpin had no special connection with no one except for Vanessa, his mother, and Wesley but in the Hawkeye show we see him having a connection with Maya. For the Daredevil part, I don't feel like Disney would go in a way that his best friend and his love interest are dead. I mean, I would love that, going on a darker path but I don't feel like it will happen, in the end, it's Disney. And I know that Vincent D'Onofrio said in an interview that the MCU's Kingpin could be the same one as the Netflix Kingpin with the explanation that after the blip he lost power but Unless Kevin Feige declares something about this I don't know it's 100% true.
@lewisholiman9237
@lewisholiman9237 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidfont9675 Well, it would hardly be the first time that the MCU retconned a character into the lore even though there was no prior hint at their existence and it even contradicts some of what we’ve seen. Just take Natasha’s family from Black Widow for example, who she never cared to mention in any of the prior movies that she was in because Kevin Feige obviously didn’t know that they were going to do it at that point. Or Isaiah Bradley from Falcon and the Winter Soldier, who was revealed to have been a secret super soldier even though they made it clear in Captain America: the First Avenger that Steve was the only one at that point.
@davidfont9675
@davidfont9675 2 жыл бұрын
​@@lewisholiman9237 That's a good point... Now I think it's more likely that they're the same version as the Netflix show, although that, my hopes are low but I hope Feige surprises us all.
@IbrahimToure_
@IbrahimToure_ 2 жыл бұрын
there's already reports saying that Anya Taylor joy is being casted as black cat. While maybe sonyverse and mcu have two different black cats idk
@applepie1272
@applepie1272 2 жыл бұрын
I love this types of unique videos
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 жыл бұрын
That's a very interesting pitch. I also think Daredevil and Kingpin should appear in Spider man 4, although my idea for Spider man forth movie would be different from yours: It would be a adaptation Ancient Tablet arc, from Stan Lee/John Romita run (fitting since the previous movies took inspiration from Stan lee and Steve Ditko run), with Spider man teaming up with Daredevil to stop a gang war between Kingpin and Silvermane, both sides trying to obtain the Ancient Tablet, a invention created by the Eternals that contains a formula that can cure/rejuvenate anyone that drinks it, something that Silvermane wants so he can return to be young and reclaim his control of New York's underworld from Fisk. The whole ancient tablet plot, while may seem silly, would actually reflects Peter's arc in the movie, learning how to move forward with his life now that everybody forgot who he is and and accept the changes in his personal life, finding new friends like Harry Osborn, Randy Robertson, Black Cat and, the most important of all, Matt Murdock, who is able to relate to Peter struggle since he also had to make decisions that affected his personal life and relationships with others. This would create a contrast between the heroes and the villains like Silvermane, who refuse to accept his own mortality and that obsession is what leads him to his death due to the Ancient Tablet side effects, unlike Fisk, who in the end takes advantage of the heroes to manipulate them into helping him take down his rival and take over NY underworld (he learned how to adapt to the new world of heroes).
@sickmountains
@sickmountains 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your ideas. They make me excited for what's to come in the next Spider-Man Trilogy.
@averynonchalantsandwich5931
@averynonchalantsandwich5931 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. The only change id make is the addition of venom. This movie should have a theme of fear. Every character can fear something; like Peter trying not to bring people into his life, or kingpin worried he will lose the power he once had. The symbiote can feed off of Peters fear to the point where he stops being Peter Parker. Daredevil can talk some sense into him because he felt with a similar situation in season 3 of daredevil. Peter almost kills scorpion and eventually breaks free from the symbiote and his fear. The symbiote bonds with Scorpion creating a hatred filled Venom, this keeps it different from Sonys Venom. Peter and Daredevil have to team up to defeat Venom and kingpin. My long but fun Spider-Man 4 theory
@shortbread1818
@shortbread1818 2 жыл бұрын
Too much going on to include it in a DD/Kingpin story but I would like to see the symbiote in the MCU eventually too.
@eem2wavy133
@eem2wavy133 2 жыл бұрын
Nah that’s doing to much. If there going to do a kingpin story just do a kingpin story. Venom would take away from him
@888888888888888100
@888888888888888100 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinkin the exact same thing for a while now!! I think this idea would be awesome!!!! I would only add to show Dr. Otto Octavius working for Oscorp and establishing a friendship between him and Norm for future movies, even doing a little like the PS4 Spiderman game where Peter starts working under Otto's mentorship!!
@filmable5559
@filmable5559 2 жыл бұрын
Cool ideas. With No Way Home’s ending I really want to see Peter as more of a street level hero from now. While other Avengers are off in space and other dimensions, someone had to keep watch at home and look out for the little guy. The new trilogy can establish Spider-Man as the guardian of New York.
@axceljulio5747
@axceljulio5747 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Plus, it would be nice to see Peter teaming up with other street-level heroes (e.g: Daredevil, Kate Bishop, etc.) to take down organized crimes within the city of New York in the next trilogy for a change, especially since his first trilogy had him receiving the assistance of big name heroes (Iron Man, Nick Fury and Doctor Strange) and dealt with much bigger troubles.
@filmable5559
@filmable5559 2 жыл бұрын
@@axceljulio5747 Yeah, a Spider-Man/Daredevil team-up against Kingpin is a must. Luke Cage would be cool to see too.
@yassinegm3797
@yassinegm3797 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like you watched the movie and traveled back in time like this is soo perfect to be tru man.
@deadpoolnerd
@deadpoolnerd 2 жыл бұрын
I hope the ending of no way home isn't, so Sony can make their own Spiderman movies and go "it's ok because technically he's not a different Spiderman he's still MCU Spiderman". Like I hope he can become an avenger again, team up with heros individually reintroducing himself to the superhero scene in NY. I so could see a grounded friendly neighborhood vibe for the next film. Peter just went through being dust for 5 years, fighting a space alien, meeting alternate universe versions of himself. Maybe he remembers Tony's advice that it's ok to be a friendly neighborhood Spiderman. Focuses on gangs looting finding who they work for.
@spencerkull5575
@spencerkull5575 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t see them doing another version of the green goblin again. We’ve gotten it 3 times at this point. There are so many great spidey villains we haven’t seen yet, that’s what I want.
@donbirkinshaw1630
@donbirkinshaw1630 2 жыл бұрын
not traight away no but later down the line yes..and no we got a alterate green goblin and not toms veriosn of the green goblin which doesnt count and we have had 1 norman osbroune green goblin and 2 harrys so skip over hary and jsut se norman and do somethig different with harry...green goblin is to impotant to spdie-rmans sotyrlien to throw out and nevr use again jsut ebcuase hes been sued hes spide-rmans joker and if we cna have a joker for every batmna film series we can ahve a green goblin who is spider-mans true arch nemises without norman who would be his arch nemsies...all you have to do is do something diffrent wiht him to justify his exsitences...i have heard rumors and ideas that norman in this unvierse could actually be young and aorund peters age sort of mixing both jorman andharry together as one that could be a thing sicne oscopr doesnt exist yet and maybe thats because jorman is young and hasnt created oscorp yet....maybe threw out the seires we could ahve a skow build to him eveutnlly crateing oscorp and becomeing the goblin..maybe spide-rman befirend norman like harry for exsample in an attmept to keep and eye on his and hopefully try to prevent his decline n to becoming the green goblin which doesnt end up working out..it would be to soon to sue him as m main charatcer now but maybe he could be introduced as a side surpsoritng character at college like flash or ned and slwoly develope their friendship/eveutbally rivalry..and this also adds soemthign new to their relatinonship and dynamic..also it would be itneresing to see oscopr be created threw out the seires becaus practically every spdie-rman series oscorp si alreyad a prestablished company in the univrse so it could be interesting so see it be created from the ground up...way number 2...you could go the senitor of state/iron patroit verions of norman osbourne thats a govermantl figure sicne thye seem to be setitng up the thunderbolts.dark avengers this could work ebcuse norman did take over sheild and rn it as a high rnaking goverment offvial and was the iron paritot leadig the dakr avnegrs and ahve him be defeated by spider-man have him lose evrything hisn positon ofnpower everything and then he plots his reveneg as the green goblin out ofnhate and malice for the oen that ruined his hole operation and way number 3 you could go the ultimate green goblin way where he turns in to a goblin monster instead of dressing up as a goblin a=in oreder to be different from all the other goblins...see theirs 3 different ideas of the top of my head already that are all interestign to do with norman osbourne so it would be a completelt waste of pretential to waste him and never use him again
@spencerkull5575
@spencerkull5575 2 жыл бұрын
@@donbirkinshaw1630 bro… calm your tits. I just wanna see other spidey villains represented. There are sooo many we haven’t gotten yet. For Marvel to do a fourth itieration of the green goblin would be too much especially after we just had a movie with him as the MAIN villain. Your makin it sound like it’s the end of the world 🤦🏼‍♂️
@spencerkull5575
@spencerkull5575 2 жыл бұрын
@UC3RjIp7-4cozeJEnQj5GYmw look dude, I tried to fuckin read that thing. What do you expect when you send me a goddamn college essay in a KZbin comments section with countless spelling errors. It’s so bad that I don’t even care about the contents of the message, just spellcheck your work man… Jesus Christ
@passarovoador6662
@passarovoador6662 2 жыл бұрын
But we need Norman Osborn He is MCU Spider-Man biggest villain, HE KILLED HIS AUNT Imagine having him face to face to a MCU Norman or Harry, maybe Norman doesn't become the Goblin But Harry does
@donbirkinshaw1630
@donbirkinshaw1630 2 жыл бұрын
@@passarovoador6662 thats what im saying to mate...green goblin has always been spider-mans biggets and most perosnal nemises and usieng himmonly once in his seires and nto even his earths ocutner part is a massive waste of pretntial for that character to not use him again in any forum..if ebery batman iteration can have a joker then every spider-man iteration can have a green goblin, if every superman iteration can have a lex luther then every spider-man can have a goblin hes jsut as essential to spide-rmans sotyr as the joker is to batman and lex is to superman and without that one main villain their rouges gallerrys are incomplete..every other villain is option to adapt theirs not much differecne in characteristics between lets say scopion and rhino they are pretty interchnagebale and can serve the same funtuion but the goblin challanges spider-man on every level and hes one villain that sint interchangeable the goblin is one that needs to make an appearecnes at somepoint sooner or later and willaim defo as good as he was doens count because hes a variant
@D3ZB0T
@D3ZB0T 2 жыл бұрын
5:38, this team up with daredevil would be perfect while he's learning this lesson, as Matt Murdock went through a very similar struggle, his friends being put at risk, eventually leading up to him pushing everyone away in the beginning of season 3
@Person-zv5uc
@Person-zv5uc 2 жыл бұрын
I love this script but I definitely think there should be a few scenes scattered across the movie where Peter walks past the café that MJ works at and has an internal battle of sorts where he debates with himself whether or not it’s a good idea to bring both MJ and Ned back into the same danger that caused him to loose them both in the first place, ultimately culminating in him finally asking MJ out by the end of the new trilogy and befriending Ned once again
@fleuttre4510
@fleuttre4510 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree this should probably be for the last movie
@rayanvij3457
@rayanvij3457 Жыл бұрын
@@fleuttre4510 Thats what he said. The end of Spiderman 6 would be when Peter breifs Ned and aks out MJ. Unless you mean this should be saved for the very last Spiderman movie of the MCU.
@NoVACorpsGaming
@NoVACorpsGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Super Frame, you are a legend, you should totally make a spec script and send them off. You have a great sense of story :)
@dr.bright5670
@dr.bright5670 2 жыл бұрын
I think the next big MCU team Peter Parker / Spider-Man should be a part of are the Marvel Knights (Ghost Rider, Blade, Moon Knight, Punisher, Daredevil, Ironfist, Shang-Chi possibly too)
@clarkstrange2142
@clarkstrange2142 2 жыл бұрын
At first I was really unsure of having an MCU Osborn, one because we just had the amazing Dafoe, and two because I think they may be wanting to go for Hobgoblin. I would still be cool with this though, awesome video!!
@kendrickparks9129
@kendrickparks9129 2 жыл бұрын
8:00 as much as i love this pitch, the shocker faced peter already in homecoming
@dogsdreamtoo8427
@dogsdreamtoo8427 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been subscribed for years now and I have no idea how you don’t have a million yet. Your video quality is better than 90% of movie channels on KZbin. Your voice is also very nice to listen to. I predict that a spider-man and venom movie will be like every other superhero teamup movie ever made. One of them will catch the other in a moment that makes them look like a villain, causing them to fight, then they will find out who the real villain is, and team up against them as a duo. I predict it will be anti-venom, as in the comics he was creating from spider-man’s blood and venom’s DNA combined.
@rosshauler7688
@rosshauler7688 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope Peter gets to save his version of doc oc in one of the movies and prevents him from ever loosing his mind
@Ihcalam_Ablalliv
@Ihcalam_Ablalliv 2 жыл бұрын
I think that it would be clever to have Norman be a genuinely good guy but Harry's perception of his father as one who has no time for his family even when his own wife is dying is what clouds Harry's judgment, turning him into The Green Goblin. It would be a way to keep Peter questioning whether or not Norman will become The Green Goblin and distract him from the harsh reality that his own friend will become The REAL Green Goblin and eventually kill Gwen after Peter steals her from Harry under the influence of the symbiote.
@shanemaguire55
@shanemaguire55 2 жыл бұрын
I'm already loving this idea
@FiggityJones
@FiggityJones 2 жыл бұрын
Is anyone else hoping that whenever we get to eventual Venom content, that the MCU introduces their own Eddie Brock? One a little closer to Peter in age, perhaps taking a bit more inspiration from their Ultimate relationship? That’s what I’m hoping for tbh.
@SHNASTTV
@SHNASTTV 2 жыл бұрын
No thank you. I want the comic book original version. Sony has pretty much taken back Spidey. So I wouldn't expect much from his world of characters to pop up in the MCU, and if they do, they 100% will not be any different than they are in the Sony-verse. There will never be an "mcu eddie brock " Or "mcu venom" because Sony owns that. And they have already established that THEIR spider-verse including Eddie Brock are in the same conceptual universe as the MCU. Spidey will appear in future MCU films but don't expect Tom Holland's spider-man 4 to be in the MCU. Expect Sony to go their own direction with 4,5,6. And expect the MCU to get Tom Holland's spidey to show up WHEN sony let's them have him pop up.
@terminalius
@terminalius 2 жыл бұрын
Why not just use Mac Gargan/Scorpion as Venom? He was Venom in the comics for a bit.
@iexist7352
@iexist7352 2 жыл бұрын
What about Flash Thompson? It would make sense if he became venom He did randomly become blond during no way home
@superkid801
@superkid801 2 жыл бұрын
I like the pitch. I would love to see Daredevil and Spider-Man together. They are two of my favorite characters. I like the ideas you had, it would be interesting to see
@thechuube8442
@thechuube8442 2 жыл бұрын
Introducing Harry and gwen would be PERFECT. And would fall directly in line with the comics
@jbobko9291
@jbobko9291 2 жыл бұрын
The Norman idea is great, hope they go in this direction, also Fionn and Jason are absolutely perfect casting
@jackginney6795
@jackginney6795 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work as always
@TheDevos1
@TheDevos1 2 жыл бұрын
Homecoming was a really good Spider-Man film and I’ll die in that hill. I don’t think it was bland at all.
@Protocol36
@Protocol36 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, man! I think Kingpin would be the perfect villain for Spider-Man 4 and the story you just came up with is amazing!
@_8ubbymusic487
@_8ubbymusic487 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing dude 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 no bs this is exactly the kind of Spider-Man content I think is perfect and appropriate for the mcu that would make perfect sense
@Avarn388
@Avarn388 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good idea for a future spider man movie. My pitch for a movie involved a gang war between King pin and Silvermane over the Ancient Tablet and Spidey needs to team up with Daredevil. But your idea is really solid.
@thesuperframe
@thesuperframe 2 жыл бұрын
the tablet/Silvermane angle seems a little to close to the 90's series for me, if we dropped the tablet and incorporated him as an opposing gang looking for control of Kingpins corner of New York then that could work too.
@Avarn388
@Avarn388 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesuperframe That works.
@joshlonden8949
@joshlonden8949 2 жыл бұрын
I love this idea; you really know your story fundamentals. However, I wouldn't completely forget about MJ and Ned, they're still important to Peter's story and I can't see Marvel just throwing those characters out and replacing them. It's still obvious that Peter cares for them and wants to be a part of their lives but is fighting whether they are better without him. I like the idea of Spiderman & Daredevil going up against Kingpin and his manmade villains. However, I think that should happen later in the new trilogy. Spiderman 4 should have Peter be alone, isolated, and taking Aunt May's words to heart. We should see him taking all that responsibility on himself and eventually cracking under all the pressure. Maybe Venom takes advantage of that. Maybe we see the older characters from the home trilogy gain more importance in the story like Brad Davis (the guy who was hitting on Mj in ffh) while still introducing new characters like Black Cat. Loved your story concept and I'm so excited for the future of Spiderman!
@henryascott1207
@henryascott1207 2 жыл бұрын
this is a great pitch but to be honest i think this plot would make an incredible tv show rather than a movie. i know it's a pipe dream but i think peter's college years would be the perfect opportunity to flesh out all of peters characters and the world of spiderman in a tv show lasting 3 or even 4 seasons. think of the show as a mix between the daredevil show, spectacular spider-man and the ps4 game. i feel like you could also encorporate mr negative into this story, as he's trying to gain power in the criminal underwold by starting a gang war with fisk. as well as that i think black cat would be a great addition to the story. have it be about peter's 1st year at college. he meets harry and gwen and gets really close with both of them. whilst working at FEAST, peter meets martin li and eventually uncovers plans about a gang war with wilson fisk. after having a fight with mr negative and the demons, spiderman is overpowered but daredevil comes in to help. then they both work together to try and take down mr negative and fisk before they both destroy the city. during this time, black cat is getting intel and helping out peter. they both take out members of the tracksuits and the demons before coming face to face with fisk. fisk has the help of shocker and scorpion, they beat them but fisk gets away. then they take down mr negative and the demons. mr negative goes to rykers but fisk gets away and spiderman will help take him down in a daredevil movie or show...... something along those lines
@natetorres4915
@natetorres4915 2 жыл бұрын
I love everything about this. Marvel should come knocking!
@midknight2115
@midknight2115 2 жыл бұрын
I was actually thinking this should be next for MCU Spiderman . Fighting crime organization like in the story Gang Wars .
@danterose6673
@danterose6673 2 жыл бұрын
I like this idea a lot. Never thought about seeing a new variant of the Osbournes or Gwen. Felt like MCU would use different characters. Definitely want to see Black Cat and the Symbiote involved in the 5th movie.
@Adam_X78
@Adam_X78 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe Spider-Man is in the MCU!! It’s sad that he can’t meet ironman or Captain America or black widow but I’m excited
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 2 жыл бұрын
I mean they fought in civil war but I understand what you mean
@Adam_X78
@Adam_X78 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardcastillos2896 Yeah You know what I mean it’s exciting that Spider-Man is actually in the MCU
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 2 жыл бұрын
@@Adam_X78 Yeahh of course after NWH I have big expectations about his character
@Adam_X78
@Adam_X78 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardcastillos2896 Me too I can’t believe I’m saying this but I’m really excited to see Tom’s Trilogy let’s hope they treat him with the respect he deserves
@richardcastillos2896
@richardcastillos2896 2 жыл бұрын
@@Adam_X78 I agree, with you I like Tom spider-man before because I knew he had potential. I like HC ir was a good introduction, I dislike FFH and I really like NWH
@septerannon
@septerannon 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think this is the best one yet
@ekwrestling
@ekwrestling 2 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video! Marvel Studios needs to see your content
@sheldonblair1271
@sheldonblair1271 2 жыл бұрын
Eh, It's smart to introduce Black Cat in the 4th Spiderman movie. Maybe there's a twist that she works for Kingpin, but at the end she's sorta like an anti-hero. This movie needs Silk, The Punisher, Daredevil, and Black Cat and the Villains need to Be Chameleon, Tombstone, Hammerhead and Kingpin.
@scifiguy9000
@scifiguy9000 2 жыл бұрын
Cindy Moon was already a background student in the first MCU Spider-Man film though.
@sheldonblair1271
@sheldonblair1271 2 жыл бұрын
@@scifiguy9000 ik! So it'd be cool to see her as Silk in the 4th movie! Whose already capabled of her powers!
@scifiguy9000
@scifiguy9000 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheldonblair1271 Although SONY do have plans to make alive-action show on her last I heard...
@sheldonblair1271
@sheldonblair1271 2 жыл бұрын
@@scifiguy9000 Sony is doing everything BUT Spiderman movies. They should LEAVE Black Cat ALONE! Instead, they should make more Spiderman movies and expand the Spiderverse. I'd like to see a Spiderman: Noir film, where it's just a Gothic horror for Spiderman. I'd like to see an Ultimate Spiderman that travels to the future with Beastials that rules the New earth. Or a Spiderman 2099 where we see Miguel battle Hobgoblin or something? Maybe we see alternative unknown versions of Spiderman have their different battles. Like The Scarlet Spider? Spiderpig? Y'know? Sony has no ideas on what the nerds want
@sheldonblair1271
@sheldonblair1271 2 жыл бұрын
@@scifiguy9000 Ouuu who? Spiderwoman?
@donlucio03
@donlucio03 2 жыл бұрын
3:50 spectacular spiderman much? No problems tho that show was amazing
@sekonsanyt593
@sekonsanyt593 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE IT! Perfect
@santhegemini
@santhegemini 2 жыл бұрын
20/10 loved everything about this
@NemesisGamesYT
@NemesisGamesYT 2 жыл бұрын
I like all of it but I think for his next movie I want to truely see him on his own and respect the sacrifice he took in No Way Home. Build up the criminal empire idea, build up his college life and his new relations (Gwen, Harry, Felicia).
@thereccher8746
@thereccher8746 2 жыл бұрын
My issue with Spider-man is that Mysterio stole a story-line that should have been used for Kingpin. Framing Spider-man for murder is a Fisk move. It doesn't even feel like it fits Mysterio's character.
@masonwright7700
@masonwright7700 2 жыл бұрын
you never read the comics
@lolxd3337
@lolxd3337 2 жыл бұрын
You never read comics
@nishant8732
@nishant8732 2 жыл бұрын
You hv no knowledge on comics and especially u know nthing about Mysterio
@imdavid262
@imdavid262 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. Love it.
@fitzmagic2461
@fitzmagic2461 2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing concept and i think it would be perfect
@konarkaron7139
@konarkaron7139 2 жыл бұрын
Really great video and ideas, and what I like the most is that you included Norman Osborn. He is the best Spider-Man villain either if he becomes the Green Goblin or not and it would be a shame and a waste to not include this character in a new serious story and in the MCU, just because of a multiversal crossover. I mean I like Dafoe's version but we need that MCU Osborn/Goblin in action, and not some kind of revenge story Hobgoblin/Ned arc for a Goblin story, just forget Ned and MJ (for now) and focus on Gwen and Harry. Imagine if they would get like a younger Osborn maybe Matthew McConaughey for the Norman parts and when he is the Goblin have Steve Blum as his voice.
@ymellow.
@ymellow. 2 жыл бұрын
Why would he leave his best friend and his girlfriend because he doesn't want them to get hurt then go to Gwen and Harry if.... he doesn't want them to get hurt
@lenno3627
@lenno3627 2 жыл бұрын
Who’s the actors that play the osborns in this vid
@rnspurgn3015
@rnspurgn3015 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s how I would incorporate Green Goblin in the MCU. This is gonna be a long prewrite that I’ve been thinking about forever so bare with me: Peter meets Harry in college and they become fast friends. They end up starting Oscorp together and do some genetic research stuff, with Peter trying desperately to make sure that Harry doesn’t become like Norman from Tobey’s universe. Over time Harry tells Peter that his dad died from an illness just before they met. He says that his Dad’s start up company, Osborn Industries, was doing research on radiation, when all of a sudden a random spider became radiated and bite some kid. Norman tried to replicate the accident with the spider by testing the radiation on himself, but it left him paralyzed and dangerously sick. Harry quickly deduces that Peter is Spider-Man/the kid that got bite, and it’s revealed that Harry is actually completely insane. Norman was a drunk that abused him throughout his entire childhood, with him being described as a “disgusting goblin” and Harry killed him while he was on his deathbed. Harry then takes the serum that him and Peter were working on, a mixture of the spider’s blood, gamma radiation, and the extremist virus and uses him on himself, thus turning into the Ultimate version of Green Goblin. Also side note I don’t want Gwen to be in this trilogy since we already saw her in Andrew’s movie and that chemistry would be hard to top. I want MCU Spider-Man to be more closely connected with the Ultimate comics, so have him date Kitty Pryde/Shadow Cat from the X-Men for a bit, and then have him get back together with and eventually marry MJ after she figures out who he is again.
@MrTony-rx7tk
@MrTony-rx7tk 2 жыл бұрын
I just have to say, this video and every idea presented in it is absolutely BRILLIANT. You, sir, are a GENIUS.
@justinm9980
@justinm9980 2 жыл бұрын
it’s story telling like this that makes me happy we have Jon Watts as the director. Because he listens to the fans, And he wants to do right by his characters in his movies.
@M_K360
@M_K360 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, its the writers people should be angry at.
@Aviator-Chicken
@Aviator-Chicken 2 жыл бұрын
I still have two huge worries. For starters by using all of the classic villains in No Way Home I worry we’ll never see them again. No Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Sandman, Lizard etc. Now I’m sure we’ll still see characters like Dr Connors and Norman Osborn but I question we’ll ever see their alter egos ever again. My second worry is that they have so many opportunities for a darker tone but Marvel doesn’t seem like they would do that but instead are gonna pump it full of childhood humor. And it becomes even more frustrating when they cut emotional scenes for this comedy. And also cast Jason Isaacs as Norman Osborn…literally perfect casting
@userRDSM
@userRDSM 2 жыл бұрын
Who was harry and gwen in the video?
@Aviator-Chicken
@Aviator-Chicken 2 жыл бұрын
@@userRDSM I’m not sure lol
@jasoncoladonato1034
@jasoncoladonato1034 2 жыл бұрын
@@userRDSM Elle Fanning and Fionn Whitehead. Excellent actors. You should check them out. If you’ve ever seen Dunkirk, Fionn was the young British soldier running from German troops in the opening scene. Elle Fanning is Dakota’s younger sister.
@boredom2842
@boredom2842 2 жыл бұрын
I think instead of having both Harry and Osborn, I think it would be interesting to have Norman take Harry’s place. It would be so cool if Peter meets Norman, but instead of him being a greedy business scientist man, he can be a geeky college kid with a startup company called oscorp. Peter would immediately recognize it, since he’s a variant of the guy that killed May. Peter would try to keep an eye on Norman, making it look like they’re friends. From this point they can go wild. They could have them become actual friends. They could have Norman realize Peter is Spider-Man, allowing him to try to recreate a super strength serum, causing him to become the goblin. I personally really like the thought of Peter keeping an eye on Norman, just for it to turn out Norman is a normal guy. They could have it so that Ned basically becomes a Norman variant. Since Peter is hyper focused on Norman, Ned can become the hobgoblin, which would fill the roll and capture the essence of the green goblin. Kinda like how they MCU handled MJ and how the Spectacular Spider-Man handled tombstone, basically making him kingpin. It would probably be even more emotionally impactful for Peter, since Ned was his childhood friend. He has to kill the guy who got him through middle and high school, the same guy who promised Peter he wouldn’t turn evil and try to kill him. This would provide a way for Peter to get back with MJ and for him to really suffer.
@blissvii
@blissvii 2 жыл бұрын
This is perfect and Marvel needs to see this
@aminetouzi1162
@aminetouzi1162 2 жыл бұрын
Yo I really like that pitch. Every choices made make sense and have weight behind it.
@9Maciej
@9Maciej 2 жыл бұрын
Nice idea, but aside of Harry, after NWH, I'm kinda don't want them to see Norman story again, since they already technically did it even if it was a version from the different universe. However, I think it would be a nice idea to use a character that was his successor, aka HobGoblin in some way. And no, it's not Ned.
@ilijacogelja6580
@ilijacogelja6580 2 жыл бұрын
Roderick Kingsley wpuld be a great replacement for Norman Osborn storyline . Let him be this owner of parfume company and still be dirty business man . Make his turn into Hobgoblin a slow story . Also , since the Green Goblin has been seen the MCU , he can still be Kingsley's inspiration for the Hobgoblin suit .
@wellteknically
@wellteknically 2 жыл бұрын
Hot take but Peter’s next love interest should be one that hasn’t gotten their chance on the big screen. I’m thinking in college, he’s also working as an intern at Horizon Labs and meets Carlie Cooper.
@kingcyrusthegreat3887
@kingcyrusthegreat3887 2 жыл бұрын
This was EPIC i love it and it would be something so unique from the MCU to see that shift in Peters life
@theleaf4
@theleaf4 2 жыл бұрын
I love everything about this
@Mine_Ggamer
@Mine_Ggamer 2 жыл бұрын
I personally think the film maker of the new triology won't introduce Norman as the goblin(or at all),maybe after nhw they do not want to repeat the villains that already appeared in other spiderman movies and also because there are so many villains that never did(for ex. shocker,scorpion,chameleon,black cat,kraven...)so I would like to see another kind of build up for the sixth movie:Kingpin/Tombstone I loved your idea for the 4th movie but,to me,it looks like too much stuff for one single movie the solution is to scatter your ideas across the triology:pheraps at the start there will be shocker and scorpion,as you said,but only at the end Kingpin will be revealed as the mastermind bheind these criminals and give Peter a speech like Tombstone did in Spectecular Spider-Man,then the 5th will be the venom movie,more centered around Peter and his inner demons,with the fantastic four and kraven and the 6th will be all centered around Kingpin,like your concept,with Daredevil,Black cat and chameleon
@TheNick1536
@TheNick1536 2 жыл бұрын
While I’d love the inclusion of the Osborns into the MCU I think it would be ultimately a mistake. Realistically Holland won’t have a third trilogy of movies and using another set of movies to ultimately have another Spidey vs Goblin story would be a disservice considering the amount of villains that haven’t being properly explored in the big screen.
@BilderbergBugatti
@BilderbergBugatti 2 жыл бұрын
not if he's a secondary character. i think it would be a missed opportunity if they don't explore the relationship between him and kingpin, plus all the other villains working under kingpin. you, know....like what was stated in the video
@harshithn4810
@harshithn4810 2 жыл бұрын
It only makes sense to have Goblin/Osborn in the new trilogy and maybe Peter could try to stop Norman from turning into a villain but fails. Pretty good way to introduce Harry as well.
@tarantolopictures481
@tarantolopictures481 2 жыл бұрын
Nah now is more perfect than ever to introduce the Osborns especially if they make Peter try to seek them out to stop them from becoming the monsters they become
@harshithn4810
@harshithn4810 2 жыл бұрын
@@tarantolopictures481 Exactly
@durriyaimad2371
@durriyaimad2371 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS AMAZINGGGGG
@foxinaboxy12
@foxinaboxy12 2 жыл бұрын
this is a really decent idea
@karlmiller7188
@karlmiller7188 Жыл бұрын
Very good and wise assertion.
@sanojnagaranthal7052
@sanojnagaranthal7052 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of my favorite pitches for Spider-Man 4 from what I've seen so far.
@HotshotABYT
@HotshotABYT 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video and keep up the good work.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh awesome
@joshuatempleton2274
@joshuatempleton2274 2 жыл бұрын
This does daredevil and Spidey well without each other not being overshadowed. Like Kingpin and the threats he can create can carry his own movie and other ideas such as Osborn and Black Cat can simmer on the background to hype up those interations. If this was spiderman 4, it would be so good!
@CudiFan224
@CudiFan224 2 жыл бұрын
Great pitch man I honestly would love to see this for the 4th
@louisrye921
@louisrye921 2 жыл бұрын
I have a love hate relationship with these videos, on the one hand they are so well written and amazingly put together but on the other hand they are SO well done they raise my expectations stupidly high
@thekrakensdaughter
@thekrakensdaughter 2 жыл бұрын
looks perfect
@innesm5963
@innesm5963 2 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 2 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man fighting kingpin would make me so happy.
@Person-wz6iy
@Person-wz6iy 2 жыл бұрын
I think only the people who are still alive have forgotten Peter. Dead Characters like Peter's parents, Aunt May, Uncle Ben, Tony Stark, Steve Rogers and Natasha Romanoff still remember him.
@isaiahadams1208
@isaiahadams1208 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve GOT TO HAVE a Daredevil team up in the next MCU Spider-Man film! -If Harry Osborne gonna be in the next trilogy, Marvel and Disney should hire Leo Howard to play him. He literally looks the part
@TravionMusic
@TravionMusic 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds great, I wish Sony would hire some KZbinrs. Y’all pitches be better than what the actual writing team writes.
@phillyndk9363
@phillyndk9363 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I really love this. Like really really!!
@arrjae404
@arrjae404 2 жыл бұрын
This is sick
@wattswant6232
@wattswant6232 2 жыл бұрын
I am so down for mcu team up movies across the bored. I think it could be a nice refresher
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