How to mix your In-Ear-Monitors -

How to mix your In-Ear-Monitors - #AscensionTechTuesday - EP020
These simple in-ear mixing tips will help you to get the most out of your church's personal mixers!
We're using the X32-Q app but these concepts will work on any personal mixing system.

[@officialWWM]

Omg, that intro...I'm dying 😂😂

[@AWTechTuesday]

Music Islife You’ll probably hear it while you’re trying to fall asleep tonight. For that I apologize. Haha. Thanks for watching and commenting! -Chad

[@watchyourtoneman5061]

Thank you for posting!

[@jeffreystipe925]

Love this. You may recall my conversation via FB pages, regarding getting my gain staging and the DCAs correctly set up. I found this interesting how much control you have over the individual components of the mix. I don't have that today, thus leading to my question over "there". I like how you think about the mix. I'll get there soon. Thanks for your content. I appreciate you chiming in on my question of a week ago.

[@MrPacoArespacochaga]

Super thanks chad!!!

[@CeeDeeLight]

Excellent! Thank you so much for this!!

[@jthunderbass1]

This is the only video I've ever seen about how to put a mix together for IEM. Thank you. Its not how I would do my personal mix, but at least its a great guide.

[@AWTechTuesday]

Thanks for watching, David! Hope this was helpful to you! -Chad

[@malousimons7048]

Super clear! Helped me alot. Thanks !!

[@AWTechTuesday]

Thanks for watching and commenting! -Chad

[@phobsterdrummerboy]

Hey Chad! Thanks for the video man! great stuff! Question: Do you send the signals to the in ears post dynamics, EQ, etc.? We've been using this exact setup but the individual channel EQ's are really bad. Some of the female singers sound extremely muffled. Your example above sounds like each channel has had some EQ work on it. Sounds so good!

[@AWTechTuesday]

Thanks Robby! A couple of thoughts for you: - Make sure your system is tuned well. If all the vocals sound good in the house but bad in the ears, this may indicate that you're having to do some extreme EQs to compensate for the house that is therefore causing the in-ears to sound bad. You'll see in some of my videos that I suggest playing a professional track that you strive to sound like with zero processing on that track. From there, EQ and level your outputs so that track sounds good in the house. In theory, if you've done this well and your band mix sounds like that recording, the EQs used to achieve that sound will translate better to all your mixes. - Some channels I set to In/LC so the musicians hear exactly what they're sending out without the mixer's processing going to the ears. I usually do this on: bass, electric guitars, sometimes acoustic guitars, keys, and tracks. - Because I have tuned my room, I go pre-fade on channels with live mics such as drums, vocals, and sometimes acoustic guitars. - Finally, I send non-band channels postfade to the ears: video feeds, pastor's mic(s), etc. - Another option is to get a separate monitor mixer like an X32Rack so that you can process the ears independently of the house. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any more questions :) -Chad

[@dinospd]

My 2 cents... You may be overcompensating the room acoustics in the channels instead of doing it in the mains. Things can sound pretty different depending on how complex is your room. I don't own nor operate a X32, but I believe you can use some buses to do a separate processing and then send it to the IEMs. This way, you won't need a mixer dedicated to monitoring.

[@TheBoneCollector113]

Chad. I just made my in ears stereo instead of mono. I have reverb on my board set up on a bus with an effects return on my main faders. How do I get reverb on just the vocals on my in ear mix?

[@AWTechTuesday]

If you are sending multiple channels to that reverb, you can't really specify what channels come back to your in-ear mix. This is part of the reason why I set up a separate band reverb and vocal reverb ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5qZaJ-Dnbx5jqs ) If you want a reverb specific to ONLY your voice, you're going to need to set up an FX mix with only your voice going to it. It's a little bit wasteful but it would work. -Chad

[@calebkensler1818]

We have P16's and a few wedge monitor mixes going to BVG vox or specials. I just ordered the sennheiser ew 300 g3 wireless IEM pack for our worship pastor. I was wondering how you send your mix to the IEMs. Mixbus, or matrix? anything help would be great.

[@AWTechTuesday]

Mix Bus. You generally only use Matrices for your different speaker sets such as mains, subs, balcony, other rooms, etc. where you taking your main LR mix and maybe applying a crossover, eq, or delay. Some worship leaders prefer to have a P16 that's run to their wireless transmitter. Especially if they play guitar. It's easier for them to make quick adjustments without having to break out a phone or tablet. Hope this helps! -Chad

[@defranne4217]

where you put the ambiant mics???

[@AWTechTuesday]

Gert Fransen Hey Gert! I generally place them on the outside edges of the stage. If you imagine that the stage is a giant face, the room mics represent the ears of that face. Depending upon where your speakers are located will affect the polar pattern and placement choice for your room mics. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and commenting! -Chad

[@Brak0777]

What type of mites would you recommend for Ambien Mike's?

[@AWTechTuesday]

I've had really good results with the Sennheiser MKE600. That's a shotgun pickup pattern. -Chad

[@merwb3410]

How do you pre record the track and run it back in like that?

[@AWTechTuesday]

MeRWB I’m doing a virtual soundcheck. Check out this video for more info - m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6WpqJSuqtF6Ztk Thanks for watching and commenting! -Chad

[@BruceLaVerdiere]

Great job! I use X32 Mix as well. I play electric. I have been struggling for a year now with my personal mix. Some weeks my ears are great, some weeks its baaaad! 1. Are the different gain songs going to effect my mix considering I get it where I like it using your method at rehearsal? For instance, we do a sound check on 1 of the songs then we go straight to our run-throughs. We do a 4-5 song Worship set at 4 services each weekend and sometimes one song is great and then comes the next song and its bad. Will your -5 starting point procedure stay consistent throughout hard driving songs and mello quiet songs as well? 2. Where is the MASTER volume on this app. I use an iPad app. on stage. Thanks man...Bruce

[@AWTechTuesday]

Hey Bruce, thanks for watching and commenting. This method isn't 100% bullet proof as it does depend on some consistency from your band when it comes to dynamics. It's definitely a good starting point though. You're correct, with many bands, if they do not soundcheck at full volume, your entire balance will fly out the window when nerves come in to play and the band gets excited and start digging in harder during the actual set. A few tips that will help. - Encourage everyone to soundcheck at full volume so there are less surprises. - If necessary, use compression to even out dynamics of the band. (Personally, I prefer not to have a lot of compression happening in the ears as it doesn't allow the musician to truly hear what they are sending out of their instrument but sometimes it's necessary for certain instruments and often for vocalists. - Make sure to confirm with your soundtech(s) that they are adjusting gain during the actual service. If they are because they have to, that means that, again, during soundcheck, everyone needs to play at full volume. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any further questions :) As far as master volume goes, which app are you using? The ears app (like in the video) or the mixing app that controls everything? There is a master volume on both, however, I generally suggest you keep the master volume at 0.0 and adjust your overall volume at your pack. I make exceptions to this rule when you don't have a pack with a volume control - like when using a headphone amp that isn't near you. If you find you need to boost the volume on the app, instead opt to turn up the volume on the headphone amp so that you will be less likely to peak out the output from the mixer or digital snake. -Chad

[@stevebrady7948]

Bruce LaVerdiere - You just described my experience as well. Most times I get to a a point where I can play without making mistakes - but most of the times the mix is challenging. To your point it varies between songs during the service. Feel like it has the most impact on the dynamics of my playing.

[@tmmotter1]

Great video man! Can you please tell me the name of the song that is being played? Thank you for the mixing info also!

[@AWTechTuesday]

The song is called Beautiful and Holy. You can find it here - open.spotify.com/track/05dUEpKDM7G8XusjlhYDwq It's part of a project called the City Worship Project: open.spotify.com/user/chadkirkpatrick/playlist/18mb95tTteJsgZlPRHDod8 www.CityWorshipProject.com Thanks for watching and commenting! -Chad

[@tmmotter1]

thank you brother. God bless

[@myronsamuels8798]

so basically as far as the mix board goes i just need a digital mix board that can run the x 32 app?

[@AWTechTuesday]

Myron Samuels Doesn’t have to me this particular mixer, but yes. If you’re on apple, you’ll now want to download the MX-Q app. For Android, you’ll want X32-Q. Both are free :)

[@ItzTooSik]

Hey, what about when our mix sounds bad (not referring to volume). For example, I’m a drummer and the drums EQ in the IEM sounds really bad. In other words, the drums don’t sound as good in my in ears as they do in the house speakers. Any advice?

[@AWTechTuesday]

Assuming your you have decent equipment for the in-ears (good headphone amp, good in-ear buds), one thought would be to check the house EQ. If the room isn't tuned well, the FOH engineer may be using extreme EQs to make up for that and those EQs may be adversely affecting what's going to your in-ears. I would check how it sounds when you play a professionally mastered track through the PA with no processing on it. If it sounds weird, that may be the problem. If that's the case, this video may be worth checking out - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqunlHuLiL51laM Let me know if you have any more questions :) -Chad

[@juanchun9589]

Brother the in-Ear mix it is in a p16m monitor or in to an app sorry I was kinda confused.

[@AWTechTuesday]

In the example, we're using the monitor app but it'll work for anything monitor-wise. Just start with your main instrument(s) about 3/4 volume and build around that. That way you have room to go up as you need.

[@ChrisFlores22]

Hey Chad. Chris again lol So I want to set up stereo iem for 8 people. I don't have 16 free buses to link and make it happen. I have 6 open free buses. The rest are subgroups and for my Facebook live stream. Also effects. Is there anything I can do to try to make it happen? Don't have the budget for p16s yet :(

[@AWTechTuesday]

I would look at purchasing an X32Rack. Makes an excellent monitor mixer - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHaYY4CporBraKc -Chad

[@michaelmay5100]

Where do you place your ambient mics?

[@AWTechTuesday]

I generally place them on the corners of the stage.

[@petehanratty950]

Nice explanation. Did I miss where you show how to select which monitor mix you are affecting? IOW, how do you get to mix three?

[@AWTechTuesday]

In that app, depending upon how you're holding your device, there is a yellow bar at the top or left side of the screen that indicates what mix you are affecting. By clicking that bar, you can select a different mix to work with. -Chad

[@petehanratty950]

@@AWTechTuesday Thanks!

[@basselias5]

We Have only 8 Auxilaries. and we have 6 Back up singers. what should i do with their mixes. do i have to give them solo mix per singer or i will just give them a general mix? thanks.

[@AWTechTuesday]

If they have in-ears, trying to make one mix for everyone can be very difficult as each will need to hear themselves more than the rest to maintain pitch. If you can give them individual mixes, it would be in everyone's best interest. -Chad

[@bennydrumming...2339]

Thanks for ur teutorials will send me some recorded track so that I can prtaice I'm just learning bro and most of the time band members n not their so that I can practice the eque .plz if possible let me knw

[@bennydrumming...2339]

Link is not working

[@AWTechTuesday]

pranjay vaidya Sorry, wrong link. Try this one - m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4epiJZ5npmJnc0

[@bennydrumming...2339]

Thanks sir god bless u more.

[@shankarjogdand6239]

Pleis Analog concelt tutoriyal

[@brandonlabajo6777]

What do you do when your click is bleeding into the mains?

[@AWTechTuesday]

- Make sure the click channel is not routed to the LR Buss - Make sure the click channel is not routed to any effects mixes. - Make sure that none of the in-ear mixes are routed to the LR Buss or any matrices. I'd start here. -Chad

[@brandonlabajo6777]

@@AWTechTuesday ok, thank you.

[@brandonlabajo6777]

@@AWTechTuesday the click still bleed out into the mains. Do you have a video setting up your click for the IEM?

[@AWTechTuesday]

Not specific to click, but here are 2 videos about mixing in-ears that may be helpful: Sends-On-Fader: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJLLh3WdrN9_bck How to mix Your Own In-Ears: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYu6iJh5iZedhac If you're still having problems, shoot me an email with a copy of your scene. If and when I get a free moment, I'll try to take a look and see if anything is obvious. Also, next rehearsal, walk on stage and listen around your vocalists. You may have someone with an ear out that is bleeding into his/her microphone. That is a common occurrence. -Chad [e-mail]

[@bbender76]

Thanks for this! Very helpful. What is required to enable panning on the app? We use the app as well but panning is currently disabled.

[@AWTechTuesday]

Thanks Dewayne! To enable panning, you must be running stereo busses. You can link busses that are side by side like busses 1 and 2. Let me know if you have any more questions. -Chad

[@bbender76]

@@AWTechTuesday Thanks for replying! So to finish this out, if I set up the 2 busses, say 1 and 2, to be linked then I can pan things between them. How do I need to then get that stereo signal out to an IEM pack? Assuming our transmitter/receiver is stereo, would I need to do something like a "Y" out of Sub 1/2 into a TRS that plugs into the transmitter?

[@AWTechTuesday]

Dewayne Pinion You’d need to go to your Output tab (located in the routing screen) and use 2 outputs - one for the left side and the other for the right side. -Chad

[@wesnile8972]

As soon as you turn the metronome on it was hurting my ears too much

[@biasvids3987]

A bit excessive with the click.

[@moshfists]

PLEASE shut that super annoying click off and let the drummer do his job!

[@MrPacoArespacochaga]

Super thanks chad!!!

[@MrPacoArespacochaga]

Super thanks chad!!!