How To Move An Off-Center Wall Mounted Light Fixture And Repair The Drywall

[@owenparker6651]

Removing the drywall paper for the mesh is genius level. I'm quite embarrassed to say that it has never crossed my mind to do that, nor have I ever seen anyone else ever do it and it seems like the perfect way to do it. Thanks for sharing!

[@electronicsNmore]

I never saw anyone either. Tuesday I'm uploading a short version showing only the drywall repair method. I need it to be much easier for people to find.

[@owenparker6651]

@@electronicsNmore Good call. That one is a game changer for the DIYer. My least fav DIY task is mudding drywall and I think you just made it much easier for me and anyone else who sees this... Again, thanks...

[@nickjanssen8201]

Oh I got this - Home Depot here I come 💪🏼

[@tonybashiproductions3356]

They way you did the taping is an excellent way, makes everything seamless

[@njmetfan]

Fantastic how-to video. No bs music or intro - just gets to the point. Well done!!

[@skeepee]

Your method for repairing that drywall hole is a keeper!

[@CollegeDave27]

This was more helpful than corporate backed channels. Thank you so much for every step of this!

[@yourappan]

That's exactly what I needed to see, and I learned a great plastering tip. Thanks for your time making this video. Really well done!!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Very helpful "how to" video that'll help a lot of people! Thank you!!

[@eanhutchins1603]

The man!

[@Splitchipsonblack1011]

Great video. Very helpful. Love the step by step explanations.

[@rcronin1]

This video helped me so much 😀 I used it to move a junction box and install a new light fixture in my bathroom Thank you so much I've never done anything like that before! I did learn the junction box needed to be centered exactly where my fixture is going to go so in hindsight I would have bought a slightly different junction box because of where the studs were located. but I learned a lot! 😀😀😀

[@JT-lq4yd]

That wall repair was smooth. Also, you were very lucky to have the necessary reach on the wires to get to the location of the new fixture and that they were not inside an EMT.

[@electronicsNmore]

If you only have one EMT leading to the light fixture, it's super easy. You remove the metal box and 1/2" male set screw adapter, then pull out the old conductors as you pull in romex. The romex will come out of the metal conduit and then you can do as shown. Not critical, but ideally you'd place an EMT to romex clamp connector on the end of the EMT.

[@talon0863]

I have done this about twenty times over the years but for some reason, the conduit or romex will become too short to reach the new location. Think maybe only twice the wiring was in my favor and I didn't have to run longer wiring from the j box or leave an exposed j box. I like how you made a relief for the fiber tape.

[@JustinLodes]

Yeah that’s common. Just use a small shallow blue box as a j-box with a plastic cover with 14-2 wire going to the light. You can go from 12 to 14 gauge even if the the breaker is 20 amp. Just as long as it’s for a single light and not going to anything else.

[@electronicsNmore]

@talon0863 Usually around 50/50

[@TrippKnightly]

I learned as much or more about patching as electrical here. Usually there’s a joke about electricians doing drywall.

[@79brumley]

A few pointers that may help you in the future, Always double check the power before you actually touch the conductors (Shared neutrals can kill you), Always disconnect the hot first then the neutral and ground last, Always connect the ground first then the neutral and hot last. If something were to happen say someone flips a breaker if the hot touches the ground or the mounting plate at least the current has a path back to the source and hopefully not through you. After I've removed the plate from the wires i re-attach the wire nut to the hot wire and leave it on until I'm ready to work on it, But I always do a check to make sure the power is still off!

[@heavy-gauge]

I always learn something new when watching your videos. I never thought to peel back the drywall paper when applying the mesh. Great tip!

[@electronicsNmore]

You won't get a better drywall repair. :-)

[@kathyg8684]

What a NICE JOB patching up the hole! I learned how to do this properly!! Thanks

[@proanswers]

Nice to see you taking a DVM potential reading at 2:45 on the conductors even though the breaker is off. Shared neutrals being backfed and or open neutral is a dangerous situation. Nice video.

[@electronicsNmore]

Thanks for watching!

[@Ressy66]

Yep, I just would have liked to see him prove the tester is good, prior to de-energising, and again on a known working source after proving, devices die, and nearly always at a critical moment :)

[@joewiekierak9641]

Sorry dumb question. What did you secure the new box too? Did you just screw that into the dry wall?

[@SheThrivesNaturally]

Super helpful exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for showing all the details!

[@orleydoss3171]

Wow nicely done👍I'm on vacation at Disney. Gonna need a mini vacation to recover 😆

[@dennisqwertyuiop]

great drywall repair

[@electronicsNmore]

Thank you!

[@MechInvent]

@@electronicsNmore yeah jeez.

[@sapelesteve]

Another excellent how to video eNm! I really liked the method that you used to do that patch work! 👍👏

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you liked it! I'll be taking part of the video and making another for drywall repair.

[@44xxggaaj]

Excellent video ! Thanks for the great drywall tip !

[@inventor1978]

Can you make video connections about electric vehicles? thank you!

[@Alemensch]

Why not add support to your new light fixture, prime your old hole prior to taping and adding compound? Problems I see are failing support for your new light fixture and the old drywall spot absorbing the compound and not having a barrier of primer to prevent that.

[@sohaltang1747]

I have seen from other drywall repair videos, showing torn/damaged paper sections on the drywall should be sealed (Roman PRO-999 or GARDZ) prior to applying mud. Since, without the paper surface, the gypsum underneath will absorb moisture from the mud differently. Supposedly, the finish can bubble down the road. I have always sealed my exposed sections on the drywall prior to finishing without taking a chance to have to redo. What is your experience with straight applying mud?

[@jimw6991]

Never done that and not had issues. I would go first coat with durabond than any finishing mud.

[@mikenavarrete4503]

Awesome video! Thank you!

[@skepticalobserver7484]

A nice job. In my experience the chances of the existing wiring reaching to the new location is approximately 0.00000000001%. 😂. That changes the job significantly as you mentioned in the text box since you can’t just add more romex.

[@electronicsNmore]

Actually, I find between 33% and 50%. If you have EMT leading to the light fixture, it's also easy. You remove the metal box and 1/2" male set screw adapter, then pull out the old conductors as you pull in romex. The romex will come out of the metal conduit and then you can connect to the plastic box as shown. Normally you'd use a EMT to romex clamp connector.

[@stevend984]

I've enjoyed your videos and it helped me a ton doing my own kitchen cabs and sink! Now I feel if I can do that I can do anything. However...that said I am approaching a dilemma and I cannot find any info on my next task so I thought I would reach out and see if I can get some feedback. I have and am sound proofing my middle bedroom to be my new home recording studio. The walls are secure with triple insulation including 1-1/2 rigid foam insulation sealed with insulation spray foam. This room is not only dead silent now it is completely air tight...except for my ceiling. The only thing left is the ceiling. My plan is to also apply the 1-1/2 rigid insulation sheets to the ceiling. Once done the entire room will be completely covered in 2-inch acoustic foam panels. Here's my issue. I need to drop my ceiling light fixtures down about four inches. Wiring is not a concern, but I'm not sure how to securely drop & mount the box to remount my lights to clear the double foam. Your thoughts?

[@Wooster77]

Great tutorial. This will save me the cost of an electrician. Don't know what they'd charge to do this.

[@johnjkizer6399]

Thank you

[@goddessofthestars]

Such a great video! Very informative and helpful-thank you! New subscriber 🥰. Those drywall tips were 😘🤌🏾

[@electronicsNmore]

Great to hear!

[@artcolding4866]

Awesome! Thanks for Sharing.

[@electronicsNmore]

Thanks for watching Art!

[@user-mb1he3mh8b]

If there is a stud inbetween the original hole and the new hole do I have to go through the stud ?

[@electronicsNmore]

Every job is different.

[@jdcapps21]

You are the drywall master.

[@Thunderstormworld]

Hi do you know how to make a 12volt battery saver. It must cut off the power at 12.6 volt. Many years ago you could buy these to fit on a vehicle to stop leaching equipment from draining a battery below the non return voltage of a lead acid battery. With new vehicles having the ecco mode I can't find these circuit boards.

[@michaelmarquez6133]

Awesome thanks, really

[@amindra963]

Excellent! Thank you.

[@electronicsNmore]

Glad you liked the video!

[@carmenbecker2660]

What would I do if the location of where I want to move my light fixture is directly at an existing stud?

[@electronicsNmore]

@@carmenbecker2660 screw a steel pancake box directly to the stud

[@andarooriordan5660]

chisel move is legendary, then you drop the drywall paper removal bomb on me. excellent!

[@williameisenberg1999]

You got lucky with the wire length … Good job!

[@electronicsNmore]

Yes, otherwise I would've had to replace the section of cable.

[@Gambino8]

Can you not add a junction box if the wires were too short?

[@williameisenberg1999]

If you add a j-box it would look out of place and unprofessional… You could change the fixture style or replace the wire which would require snaking in new wires . Then the job gets more extensive…

[@macEboy]

Well done Sir. Thanks

[@electronicsNmore]

Thanks, and you're welcome Mac!

[@Leave1942]

Can you use a blue box like this if your fixture has green wires?

[@ethanovation]

thanks man

[@MathGeekQ]

Is there no need to attach the box to a stud? It's just leveraging on drywall, and then it was to support the weight of the light fixture. Really curious about this.

[@MathGeekQ]

To those who are a little concerned about this like I was, the answer I found is: yes. Those electrical boxes are rated for 6 lbs (says so on the box itself too). Our light fixture was about 1.5 lbs and it's holding up nicely.

[@jimw6991]

@@MathGeekQ I was wondering the same thing. Do you know if they make remodel boxes rated more than 6 pounds?

[@MathGeekQ]

@@jimw6991 When I was shopping around, I saw one that went as far as 8lbs, so I think that's around the limit for these remodel boxes. A neat trick I saw to install an "old work" box anywhere between two studs is to bridge the two studs with a 2x4, place it just below where the electrical box would go so you can nail/screw it on top. But that means you'll have to make hole in your drywall and patch/paint it after.

[@jamiesoto3348]

Once you put the new blue box in the wall, how do you the flaps come out?

[@electronicsNmore]

Take a slot screwdriver and jam it into the flap from the outside and wiggle until it opens up.

[@ededmonds8792]

Good work.Thanks

[@electronicsNmore]

Thanks Ed!

[@decentralizedplanet482]

Wow I never knew how to use that mesh tape properly apparently

[@Ritemon]

Many thanks!

[@FindLiberty]

You nailed it...

[@electronicsNmore]

Thanks for watching!

[@karenmason5484]

What if cable is not long enough?

[@andypritchard8017]

What do you do if the original wires do not reach to the new location?

[@SLaird22]

You would have to run new conduit from the switch to the light fixture - there's no "quick fix" for that unfortunately

[@trench01]

I think others said it well and will just thumbs up their comment since I assume you get the same compliment comments all the time. Also interesting fixture clamp..

[@raywhuj217]

what happens if the cable is too short

[@leeanntran102]

Thank you so much. I'm going go center the lights dam in laws don't care if it's off. I have ocd and just looking at it is driving me insane. Lol they didn't bother to center the mirror with the storage cabinet. U should see their bathroom downstairs.

[@karlmidgley5187]

retired electrician---out of 100 times cable will be long enough maybe 5 times----we don't waste money by using extra material --- also cable has to be secured close to box to meet code during construction so your not going to just grab the cable---if I found work like this in my house it would be an indicator of handyman work done after construction or lousy original contractor

[@electronicsNmore]

I find about 1/3rd to 1/2 will work out. Not having a staple on the cable close to the box inside the wall, a place where you'll never move it for decades, as well as the box having a tight grip on the romex, I view as a very minor issue. Thanks for watching

[@ThePatriotsBrother]

I agree,… not having a staple close to the junction box isn’t a big deal. It’s not under any pressure or moving in any way. The wire should be just fine. This was done perfectly and most home improvement contractors could learn a few things from this, especially cutting the drywall paper before adding the compound for a smooth finish. Beautifully done!

[@thegroomsroom8791]

@@ThePatriotsBrotherYhh I agree of all videos I have watched this is the first time I have seen the method of cutting the dryboard before putting the mesh tape and i will say it makes a lot of sense

[@darexdarex]

LOL The whole video long, I was thinking, "please tell me he's not putting that old, corroded fixture back up." 👍🏻

[@electronicsNmore]

LOL.

[@KushPatel]

HO w much weight can that new electrical box hold? I need to move a box a few inches higher and want to minimize my wall cuttingm but concerned about the weight of the fixture

[@electronicsNmore]

A few pounds easy.

[@MightySapphire]

Late to the comment game here, but if you'd have notched out a little more drywall paper to the left and right of your cut, your drywall tape would have also covered your counter-sunk screws holding your brace.

[@dspringett]

Box is only rated for 6 pounds, what if your fixture is heavier?

[@electronicsNmore]

Then you're forced to locate a stud and screw in a steel box.

[@technologyjunkie01]

Nice job! Are you for hire? Keep em coming.

[@electronicsNmore]

Too busy for anything right now. LOL

[@NavinBetamax]

So......when you re-locate a light fixture....and to get an extra light .....you have to invert the old fixture on the new location ...and Magically it will Morph into a 3 Lamp Fixture from the old 2 light Fitting !!!

[@electronicsNmore]

LOL

[@gsftom]

One trick - put a towel in the sink so that u don’t drop small screws down the drain.

[@electronicsNmore]

An excellent idea, it also protects the sink from damage.....I've had it happen.

[@CREATEWITHARITRO6]

Awesome and 1st comment;-)

[@elcormoran1]

Well in a drywall esay to do it, but in Hard concrete wall

[@5acrelivingprojects]

Very helpful! Thank you!