How To Replace Leaky Water Main Valve // Bad Shut Off Valve DIY

[@zackdreamcast]

sharkbite for a main water line. Living on the edge my friend.

[@osu895]

He's just fine. The Shakebites are twenty years old and doing just fine. People love perpetuating fear. If Tom Silva says it's ok, that's good enough for me. Mine are 10 years old and are fine (behind drywall too! Oh my!)

[@bobshanery5152]

@@osu895 True they got like a 25 year warranty. I would not put them in closed walls but everything else open is fine. Easy for the DIY or anyone looking to a quick fix. Compression fitting are also easy but require an extra tool to tighten.

[@hayleyconnors2347]

Dude I'm loving how you camera shot in depth &show everything! Ty!

[@irhusker6569]

You had a chance to do it right with the water off and pipe cut. Sharkbite's are not a good idea long-term. I hope people are not following this as a good how to video for a long-term fix.

[@MrBrandonh98]

Why are shark bites not a long term solution? Thats the first time I've heard that

[@skyetaylor259]

Go with professional copper crimps or sweats and / or pex. Avoid sharkbites as they are too fragile.

[@kevin83FL]

Shark bites are fine for short or long term. The issue here is that could have been fixed in a few minutes with $3 worth of graphite or Teflon packing rope, and not needed to use sharkbites. Also would not need to add the extra piece of copper would you have used a hacksaw to cut the old valve out rather than the pipe cutter, that wasted probably about an inch of pipe.

[@micah3794]

@@kevin83FL on a water main? No shark bites are designed for temporary fixes on simple fixtures not the main water supply lol, what he should have done is called the city, shut the water off at the street.. installed shark bite to drain remaining water in THAT line and then soldered in a permanent ball valve.

[@hekterr6677]

Undo that union and sweat in a new piece of copper tube to the correct length to eliminate the extra shark bite coupler…

[@Zeric1]

How do you approach replacing the valve if there is no play to move the pipe either side of the valve? In the video there was a lot of play in the pipe above the valve, that's not what I have typically seen or have in my home. In PVC they make extending couplings for that situation, maybe there is something similar for copper?

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

Maybe if you leave that existing valve in place and wide open but cut the pipe somewhere else in the line?

[@Zeric1]

@@SpiritofaHandyman I think the difference is you live an area that has basements where plumbing is accessible and there are often relatively long runs. I live where there are no basements and freezing isn't a concern; plumbing is buried underground and inside the walls. The supply line comes up from the ground outside the house, has about 12" of pipe, then a gate valve for the main shutoff, then an tee with one side going into the exterior wall, the other is a hose bib. No obvious easy solution to replace the gate valve.

[@MrSamwiseganja]

You should use a regular coupling that doesn't have the stops inside it or sand down the stops so that the coupling can slide fully into the pipe then sweat the fitting on. I personally hate using shark bite connectors, but they are good for certain applications. Soldering the pipe is always the better option for long term reliability and it isn't very difficult to do nor does it require many tools.

[@debtminer4976]

@@MrSamwiseganja shark bites are great when it's accessible. I'd never use one in a wall or hard to reach place though.

[@qinlingzhou8815]

FYI. There should be a slip version of sharkbite ball valve now. You could have up 2'' space to connect.

[@christapp9430]

Mine is very gunky and is a bit older. This has encouraged me to try it, but still a bit hesitant!

[@bobshanery5152]

Not mentioned. 1) Clean the pipe and deburr it. Costs about 10-20 bucks in supplies. This is recommended by Sharkbite. If you want that 25 year warranty for no leaks. You must to this. 2) Buy the tool that shows you the required depth needed for the pipe. It will be around where you bought the fittings. Its cheap and will help you not guess what length of pipe you need. 3) To cut the pipe closer use a hacksaw or similar. Tub cutters wont be able to get as close. Cut it as straight as you can and you can always cut a small bit off with a tub cutter if all else fails.

[@kevinmcbrearty9390]

There isn’t any soldering with it?? How does it not leek?

[@jamilrasheed]

This is pure comedy 🤣🤣🤣

[@bobshanery5152]

It has teeth and an o ring which is a rubber ring. The teeth lock it in place and the ring seals it. Its somewhat similar to the pro-press fittings nearly every plumber runs nowadays. Instead of the teeth at the ends you press the fitting with a specific tool.

[@darrenkamalu9047]

Does the shark bite work for the electrical ground bond? It looks like that was a ground wire next to where you were working.

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

Good question! The ground wire was attached right where the pipe disappears through the wall, so on the street side of the SharkBite that I installed. This means my Shark Bite connection wouldn't affect the ground one way or another.

[@dirtbiker5863]

Did you or could you provide a list of materials you used, please?

[@alexandersheets1]

I got a bid for this, 1175 bucks. Seriously going to try it myself.

[@davechristopher6462]

Thats why im here. Thank you Alex I figured they would try and gouge people. Got a drip pan under it now. Temporary band aid.😔 I dont know if i have the guts to give it a whirl or not. Wish you the best let me know how it goes! Best of Luck!!

[@alexandersheets1]

Make sure you look up proper procedures when using shark bite fittings, I know one of the most important things is deburring the cut edge before slipping it on, otherwise you can cut the internal o-ring

[@bobshanery5152]

Where on earth do you live NY? Thats insane price. I had a ball shut off valve put in on a house for my son and it was under $400 with taxes

[@mrbigcat9]

Shark bit is risky especially for a main water valve?

[@bobshanery5152]

No. If installed right they have a 25 year warranty. Buy the tool that shows you the depth needed and make sure to clean the pipe before putting it on. If it leaks in 25 years. It be a small leak. Snap it off and replace. I would not use them behind walls but out in the open is fine. They are rated about 3-4 times the PSI going into your house.

[@jpjp9111]

How would I do this if there is no street shut off? I have a well that has pressure but no way to shut it off.

[@kellismith4329]

If you shut off the power to your wellpump you will lose pressure real fast

[@felixlaboy1453]

Is shark bite safe to use, especially for a main water valve

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

It has held up all this time

[@felixlaboy1453]

@@SpiritofaHandyman Thank you very much.

[@DavidCrandall-mk3dd]

My valve and pipes are behind drywall so that I can turn the handle but I have no access to the pipes. What do I do?

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

You will have to open the drywall to get further access

[@Twenty3SkeeDu]

Its a globe valve...I live in the city how do I find the street cut off?

[@kellismith4329]

Behind your property an access is buried somewhere, you have to jump through hoops and hire their people etc to go in there wrenching the valve

[@Hajjat]

@6:23 what copper pipe type do you recommend getting? I was looking on home depot and found they have many ratings (type M, L, etc.) - wasn't sure which one to get!

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

I wasn’t aware they had different ratings

[@septembersapphire347]

@@SpiritofaHandyman What do you charge your customer for this job? My house is really old and the shut off valve runs along the floor so there's not enough room to run the pipe cutter around it like you did. And I wouldn't be able to put anything underneath it to catch the water that comes out because it lays along the floor. So would my floor just have to get soaked? And what other tool could be used to cut the pipe since the tool you used won't work on mine? And you think a plumber would charge $145 to complete this job? How long should the job take from start to finish?

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

@@septembersapphire347 $145 sounds like a very reasonable price for a tricky location.

[@HarrisWaterandSewer]

Great video! Nice work on the replacement!

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[@squirrelattackspidy]

How do you measure the diameter of the pipe to make sure you get the right shark bite?

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

Buy all three sizes and return the ones that aren’t good fits

[@reaper-sz5tm]

Measure it width wide. It goes by outer diameter, most main shut off valves for residential are 3/4 inch pipes, and toilets and sinks are 1/2inch

[@everything2872]

Make sure to drain the house once the the water is off.

[@irockbmw6s908]

Shut off main water valve in house. Changed filter. Then when I tried to turn the water back on the main valve just keeps spinning. The handle and the stem spin but it never stops spinning. Water won t come in from outside?

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

Sounds like you have a bad gate valve

[@irockbmw6s908]

Spirit of a Handyman yeah this is essentially what i ve been assuming.

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

@@irockbmw6s908 yes gate valve is stuck closed. It happens alot actually with them, especially with age of 10 years or more on them.

[@f3arful]

Change the gate valve not sure why you're asking a question you seem too have the answer for.

[@kevin83FL]

Most of the time (trolls read: most of the time) one of two things causes this - the end of the shaft came loose from the gate by the end of the threads being gone due to various reasons, or two, the threads of the shaft are gone completely and let go of the gate. Either way, sometimes you can simply pull out on the handle while spinning and it MAY bring the gate open and it will just become a push valve. I have seen an older lady have this on her house for about 15 years now without issue and she still has it today.

[@ageiger426]

Hello, did you use Teflon tape or glue on the new push-to-connect valve, or does it seal itself?

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

No tape or glue required for the push-to-connect fittings

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

The outside of pipe seals with a rubber gasket in the fitting so the outside of the pipe needs to be immaculate.

[@angelam4795]

FYI, for anyone out there, you can turn off your water without a special tool. Just use needle nose pliers. Works just the same.

[@grizzrider09]

Thanks I'm about to dive into this myself

[@bobshanery5152]

If you can reach it sure. Most homes that have winters will have that pipe deep down in the ground. You can buy the tool at pretty much any hardware store. It does not cost much. You could also call your local water company and they will come to shut it off but sometimes these companies are a pain in the back end and will charge you or take weeks to come out.

[@jamilrasheed]

After seeing what he did, then going back and looking at his still frame of his face with that grin .... Now I can't stop laughing 🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭 .... Don't pay me any mind 😭😭😭😭

[@tsetendorjee9040]

This is an excellent of How To Replace Leaky Water Main Valve KZbin and thank you very much!👍

[@jimbo8743]

that into and outro music thing is funny 👍👍

[@jimonqa]

Why didn't you just repair the valve with some packing rope & tightening the packing nut?

[@DanielRead87]

I couldn't find any hardware store in my area that sells the packing rope. I have done that once before but figured it would be easier to just replace the entire valve.

[@autonomiatolete2612]

This is a real shark plumber.

[@Dressage9603]

Thank you!! Helpful!

[@ricardobowen3364]

Excellent!! Thank you

[@tinazhang4396]

Nice job 👍

[@jamilrasheed]

The comments got me on the floor !!! 🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭

[@mrkraymnd]

At 7:30 I thought your head was bleeding but realized it was your glasses 😅

[@jamilrasheed]

🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@shantor100]

Could have at least used a slip coupler and eliminate the need for second coupler. Hopefully you're not shark biting the bath remodels

[@dw1234-e4b]

great video....thankyou......😃

[@ekfliu]

SharkBite on main shutoff valve? Did you give the home owner the street shutoff tool and show them how to shut it off at the street if main shutoff started leaking?

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

Have you had bad experiences with SharkBite fittings I take it?

[@ekfliu]

@@SpiritofaHandyman Well actually no, but used in open area like sinks and toilets and not inside walls. The worst could happen is leaks are seen and they can shut off main and get another SharkBite to replace. With main leaking you would need to call a plumber or city to shut off the street valve and hopefully the basement would not be under water by then. Better keep a identical spare close by just in case the whole thing blows due to people slamming those 90 degrees main ball valve shut during some other emergency.

[@daleutley8514]

Awesome

[@Blackaytown]

Thanks bro

[@williamwatson171]

This guy doesn't know what hes talking about, don't follow his directions. You need to clean the copper ends and deburring or you'll have leaks

[@NUMENOREAN91]

Tighten the packing nut or replace the packing. Often times the packing nut will leak if it hasnt been turned off in a long time. Usually you just tighten it a quarters to half turn and ur good. Save yourself the trouble of replaceing the whole valve. Its a stop valve not a gate valve. The rubber washer can be replaced along with the bibb screw that holds it in. A valve that can be maintenanced replace the parts it will last as long as the brass will last. We live in a throw away society.

[@HristovRumen]

You can't be putting sharkbite ball valves on water mains. It's not code. You need a proper 1" soldered in ball valve or a gate valve like the one that was removed. What you did is not code.

[@mimazeki]

was there any option to repair old valve? can you change gasket in the old valve?

[@SpiritofaHandyman]

That was an option, and I have done that before but for the cost of purchasing a replacement vs the time it takes to make the repair wasn't worth it in this situation

[@kellismith4329]

Seems like a lot less work than cutting the pipe etc

[@priestof1s]

I just rebuild them with plumbers tape on the threads and a new washer.

[@kellismith4329]

That is a better idea, just swap out the innards of the one that was already soldered in, I would also install a second valve while the water is off

[@jeffbrock1757]

Definitely a handy man fix and a plumber would not use the same material.

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

Id say yes and no. If all water can be out for a single family home then a solder connection would be best. If multiple homes or apts affected then the quickest and most error free method would be best. Aka push connection.

[@bobshanery5152]

Its not really much different from the pro press fittings plumbers are all running everywhere. In fact the design is pretty dam similar.

[@11B10-w7e]

Shut off your curb box, crack open the packing nut, fit a new 30cent rubber washer..and you're done. Why add time to your job and added expenses to your client. Don't to wanna get called back?

[@vincentyoung4963]

This guy really messed up that whole situation didn't even measure the piping right so when that SharkBite goats out he has even a worse mess than he started with

[@xushenxin]

I can't find my water well~~~

[@jamilrasheed]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

[@j.c.8975]

I'm surprised you show your audience how to debur the pipe as well as reem the inside, I like to clean the copper as if I was going to solder. Granted I'm a DIY as well, I just like to take an extra 5 mins to prep things properly.. Great Video.....

[@jamilrasheed]

Definitely should have added an extension to the bottom, and used soldered connections for a main waterline

[@note9singh398]

Sharkbite for main shutoff valve. Hell no

[@paulstephens9274]

Did need sweat/solder the foints😊

[@wangandrew607]

Thanks, good and clear demo to me.

[@Mohagrus]

shark bite on the main lol what a catastrophe waiting to happen

[@SID101-p]

I wouldn't use SharkBite on a permanent fix

[@boico123]

I can’t turn off out door water cause county need real plumber to do it … main water they won’t let me do o .. ..

[@beenheredoneit.4381]

Just turn it off. Anyone can turn their water off into the house or building. You don't have to be plumber to shut water off. Find main watery valve feeding you and turn it off. Simple and you can buy that took to shut off the main but I use pliers or channel locks.

[@Dreamagine1]

Holy hell what a hack job. I'm not even a plumber but I think that look pretty jankey.

[@nutter4butter]

dude why a sharkbite? call a plumber man

[@kraigrebstock4019]

As a proffesional plumber there is many problems with suggesting people to fix this problem with this solution bad advice

[@smeferoo]

I'm not a plumber and wouldn't do it for insurance purposes. I know how to do it well but I'll let the plumber take the "plunge" if something goes wrong.

[@camom494]

If you are not a licensed plumber then you have no business messing with someone else’s main shutoff valve. You should have had a plumber come fix the shutoff. I know it’s not cheap, but you are asking for legal issues if that fails and does extensive damage.

[@abackimages5351]

Wow so bad so bad ever heard of a torch omg

[@anotheruser1130]

I’m too lazy to D.I.M. 😭

[@JS12045]

All you had to do is tighten the packing nut... had plenty of thread left.... you will be lucky if those shark bites last 7 or 8 years.

[@BC-sk3bp]

Too. Late now.. Your valve missing a drain. Like the old valve have.. 😂

[@TheBlueberry606]

Huh, no, don't follow this.

[@supernova9088]

Looks like it's leaking from the packing nut. Could have just tightened that and save loads of time and some money. Also shark bites leak.

[@willjeremy]

Shark bites don’t leak if you fit them correctly

[@savage-goose]

I've never had one leak, use them a bunch --- like anything prep is key

[@f3arful]

Sharkbites take professionalism out of the trade. Doesnt matter if they work or not. If you're trained and licensed and have pride in your work, do it the professional way, not the weekend warrior that doesn't know fuck all. Prove them wrong and hand the bill.

[@zaidlaffta]

Good for DIY, but not a pro.

[@jb-xj9ec]

I WOULD NOT TRUST ANY HOUSE TO SHARK BITE VALVES FOR THE WATER MAIN!!! LUNACY!!! They are known to have failed and slipped off, causing a disaster in regular connections. Sharkbiting your house's Water Main?! CALL A PLUMBER, OR LEARN TO SOLDER WELD COPPER. Please. It's NOT difficult.