HOW TO RIDE! Inline-four Motorcycle!

Admittedly this is a very specific subject but coming from a 125cc single cylinder motorcycle to a 600cc Inline-four engine has some differences you may not realise. even compered to a 650cc v-twin. These are the most obvious ones that will help you get the most out the engine.
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[@boykogeorgiev6581]

I work in bussy Town and Another massive difference. Riding 125cc I was always getting involved in arguments with car drivers. Since im on my Yamaha XJ6 ( love it ) I did not once had any alternation with cars they just disappeared from my life lol

[@thegoony]

Well I just passed my A Licence Mod 2 today, currently on a 50cc so big step up for me. :)

[@Flyingbrrtmachin]

SeaSideGuy congrats

[@thegoony]

Many thanks, did all mine on a Honda NC750S dct, (got a very dodgy left ankle) once I got used to the power, Spicy is right a lot easier to ride.

[@tml136]

I fail my mod 1 test today I ended up locking the front wheel up and dropping the bike so gutted

[@thegoony]

What part of Mod1 you do that on?

[@tml136]

SeaSideGuy hazard avoidance

[@sirsoundalike8768]

Great video Spicy, some important points made. 5th gear doing 30mph on my ZZR 600 would die, no efi, just a big hefty bike and a fluffy carb box. But, get in those higher rpms and she'll still keep up with the best of em! Love inline 4s for their smoothness though.

[@robinwells8879]

A lot of useful information here that I should have watched months ago. I am still finding that I am psyching myself out arriving at corners faster than my ability advises is wise and I freeze and go rigid and my ability to corner all but vanishes completely. Nearly hit a big ford pickup head on a couple of days ago in what would have been a game over moment. It’s just the same as I was 40 years ago! Must practice more and you really can’t let your concentration slip even for a moment especially on unknown roads. Must do better!

[@rajatsharma7264]

Only video I saw that explains character of inline 4. Though they are getting extinct but I love it.

[@sayhello203]

well said. I moved up to a 600 from a 125 last year. What an experience it is the first time you open up a "big" bike. The most important thing to do though is respect the bike, when you move on to the bigger bikes it will be capable of doing things you just will not be able to. As you said build up to it, slowly and gradually and you will be fine. Be sensible and show respect and most importantly enjoy the ride

[@benl7070]

I find everyone says the same thing "riding a bigger bike is so much easier than a 125" I find this not to be the case, or rather found this not to be the case, I'm very glad I had the instructor I did as she was the type of person where you will be riding that bike and you will pass your test (which is great coz I always throw the towel in early mid shit fit) but even still I never got used to riding that fzs600, just couldn't get on with it, i find these inline 4s (and triples) overly responsive and I don't like revving a bike I found 5-7,000 revs on that was like cruising and I'm used to changing up then, and I found changing gears by the time I get up a gear the revs have died so much its as if I have to find the biting point again, I miss gears, managed to stall it the lot, sod knows how I passed me a2 on that thing, riding a 400 single however, absolutely fine, no trouble at all, changing gears was smooth, the throttle isn't in a hurry to pull ur arms off, but if poked with a shitty stick it'll pick up with gusto, I love singles, so easy to ride, I find everything too dainty and responsive on 3s and 4s (twins are okay but I'd still choose a single)

[@analogsamurai2505]

just watched this again 2 years later.... i got a fzs 600 fazer last week. i been riding 125cc for 17 years. i cant emphasise enough how much you have to be aware in corners on a bigger bike. the fazer has close to 100bhp and a gentle twist can easy see you 20mph in a corner faster than you expected... i nearly washed out today on way home due to like 1mm too much throttle meaning i was like 15-20mph too quick for corner. i hit the noob reaction of braking mid corner. Thankfully i had the mindset to let go of brakes and just lean more with slight throttle to push me round... it was a close call but it just goes to show even people with experience can be easy pushed over the riders ability and caught off guard. thankfully i had the knowledge to get out of that situation and not target fixate and came away unhurt but another lesson learned!

[@spicy110]

It happens to us all, it's just learning from the last and moving on. Every now and then I might do something a bit silly recover it and be like well that was silly now wasn't it haha. The odd thing is you can't think that fast so your reactions are built it and it kinda all happens like wait what was that haha

[@analogsamurai2505]

@@spicy110 yea. soon as i came round corner i was shaking my head like well that was daft of me XD but yea it all happend so quick one min i was going round and bang i knew it was do or die time. was literally a split second of looking at speedo thinking fk thats bit fast then looked up an i moved from lane position 3 to position 1 i had a second to turn or eat tree. crazy how the brain does it all so quick. i diddnt have time to think what i was doing in that situation. it just happened.

[@jayjayk4915]

Spicy the kinda guy that gives his bikes a pre ride pep talk

[@christ4604]

Can't wait for the next vid and for some more metal works

[@AGD_27]

I like what you said about learning how to ride fast before upgrading. I've been riding near 5 years now, 1 year on a 2 stroke 50, 2 years on a 125, and I've been riding my current bike, a VFR400 for about 15 monthes now, and I see it way too often when I go for ride out where people have just done their DAS and bought like a CBR600RR and I will go so much faster than them through the twisties and dispite that they will get to the next stop and say "I need something faster like a RC8" (genuine qoute by the way) even though they just got beat by a guy with half the HP as them. Rider skill is 10 times more important and I say this as someone who believes I'm not really that fast at all.

[@prodigythirteen2242]

About to step up to my A2 after a couple years on a 125 so was definitely a helpful video to watch.

[@HalfdeadRider]

I think amending the title to how to ride a big/bigger bike. I just went from a 125cc to a 650 parallel twin. . Almost as much power probably about the same torque as yours, probably a bit lighter, so roughly the same performance. I just ride the same for the most part, less full throttle/red line moments though. Just take it easy and within minutes, as long as you're sensible, you get used to it.

[@KentRoads]

Halfdead Rider 2 cylinder will have more low down torque than 4 cyl

[@HalfdeadRider]

Yep, they also red line at around the same RPM, 4 cylinder slightly higher by about 1k on these, super sports red line higher. Both are still very quick bikes for any new rider but easy to ride in normal road conditions.

[@lordstevewilson1331]

Nice video bud, I recently got bike license direct access and went straight to 2000 zx-6r, did a cbt on a 125cc and a rest of the course on a yamaha 600

[@PlatinumGamer_1]

I had a yamaha mt 125 for two years until I had an accident earlier this year and the bike was written off, so I have recently just bought a yamaha tracer 700 😁😁

[@andybull4903]

I love that bit of road lol! Usually in a Mercedes half back though haha. This video is handy as I'm hoping to do my DAS soon! Keep up the good work Spicy 👍

[@garfy92]

100% accurate, I went from my R125 to a daytona 600 and its so different compared to the er6's i did my test on

[@jeffcarey7013]

Garfy Lewis which would you recommend a naked or faired bike?

[@garfy92]

Faired is more my cup of tea, bit too much wind feel on the naked bikes at higher speeds, not saying they aren't fun though! I'd say try both and see what fits you better in style, comfort and feel :)

[@stevejones8665]

Blimey I got 2 adverts for BMW Motorrad with this video very posh stuff Spicy is going up in the World with the Adverts linked to his video,s ..👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏

[@buddybleeyes]

My Bmw f800st is an inline twin, it's relatively the same but less top end power and abit less torque I presume. I had the same problem, but now I'm starting to learn my bike now :)

[@GreyMareSS]

Solid information per usual. I was digging the road too.

[@Trooper125R]

I've just gone from a 500 parallel twin to a Hornet 600 and it's brought the excitement back to biking for me. It makes 100bhp with the exhaust I've got on it and more torque than the newest R6. For a 20 year old naked 600 i4 it's full of surprises

[@musguelha14]

Trooper125 No way its making 100hp with just an exhaust. Maybe 90.

[@musguelha14]

IsntThisAStupidName I wish. I have one. A healthy one makes 80-85 to the wheel. With an exhaust and proper jetting you get about 90.

[@Trooper125R]

No one said anything about WHP though. A delk adds 4whp and the bike makes 97 at the crank so it's safe to say that goes up to 100 with the exhaust

[@musguelha14]

Trooper125 Bikes are never measured at the crank. It's a made up number and it makes no sense.

[@madeleinegillett5892]

I flipping love riding my Diversion. I've had a couple of 'oh shit' moments when approaching corners but I've always managed to slow to a manageable speed for me to get round them 😂 Another thing that might be good to point out is a lot of people go from naked 125s to faired big bikes and some get a bit wary of the fact the nose cone always stays pointing forwards, even if the bars ain't 😂

[@funnyfailer99]

Went from a hyosung gt125r to a suzuki sv650s, was easy enough to get used to but then after buying a suzuki bandit 250 (inline 4) i sold the sv and I realised it wasn't all about the power but more the delivery of it, 18k redline ftw, now have royal Enfield continental gt asŵel as the bandit

[@Flyingbrrtmachin]

Can't wait till I get a job so I can get a bike

[@oxide_fx]

Cheers spicy, very helpful. Looking forward to my first lesson on a big bike. (My test is booked for the day after :/ ) so nervous about the slow speed stuff on a heavier bike.

[@draiguk]

Try not to be nervous, it is actually easier riding slower on a bigger bike than a 125. You'll see that after your first lesson. Good luck with the test.

[@AKAMustang]

6:03 EngineeringExplained did a video with a pretty decent explanation (called "When To Shift Gears For The Fastest Acceleration" if anyone want's to search for it). TL;DR In the vast majority of cases gearings are designed such that running to redline is what you want to do for max acceleration.

[@benl7070]

I can't remember if it was a yam or Kwak with a red line of about 16000 and a fella who bought one couldn't make out why ur wasn't taking off and was saying on a forum that even at 5000 revs it would barely pick up and would sometimes stall and as a long term owner said "5000 revs is barely off tick over" so that's a problem for a lot of people who go from a single to inline 4 or I suppose going single to twin.

[@martincoldwell1516]

Told you other month I went to look at a 600 cbr, don't even need front brake, just shut off throttle and a little of back brake its lick I've got a ships anchor on the back, but I agree they are fun and a lot easier to ride than 125 cc bikes

[@ItsBeenDanBefore]

I'm able to get my 50cc geared bike to pull off on the clutch alone, even with it's low idle and low sprocket ratio. I believe it's a carburetted single cylinder. I need to give a step or two on flat but otherwise will get about 5 MPH without any problems. For some reason, as well, occasionally, when doing that, applying a tiny twist of throttle will make it slow down. The gears thing is definitely true, as well, because I have to shift up to fourth to get 30 MPH without the bike vibing to Hell and back. But then the fourth gear will get me up to 50MPH, whereas the other gears will get me barely anything. However, I must admit, that bike scares the fucking shit out of me, especially since I had a lowside because of the bike itself. The power is so inconsistent and the throttle will jump randomly at any speed or gear, which, when mid lean on a roundabout, wasn't good for the relationship between the ground and my knee. The handling is also fucking horrible because I will try to lean and sometimes it will, sometimes it will decide to countersteer in the direction I don't want it to. I can't wait until the end of the month, I will move up to an MT 125.

[@TheToggleguy]

Spicy dont think its a good idea putting red at the bottom of the thumbnail - I thought i'd already watched it at first

[@spicy110]

Hmm didn't think of that, will amend in a bit 👍

[@tkchan001]

sorry I am riding my cb650, dealer said keep the rpm low at first 1000km. how much rpm you usually recommend? less than 6000?

[@WasNotWas999]

I went from a dorsoduro v twin to an mt07 parallel twin and the parallel is great at low revs... still miss my aprilia though.. . Good vid and well explained spicy.. now I'm off for a KFC

[@ToeKnee666]

Am picking my 05 fz6 up in 1 hour hehehe, going from a cbr250r

[@nguyenduonglong94]

250cc 4 in-line xylinders

[@benl7070]

And also whats happening with the spotlight section or is it that I haven't read the description and it's in there.

[@TheToggleguy]

My 125 (has derbi gpr 125 4T engine) has peak power at 8250RPM (from spec sheet) and I usually have to stay around 8000-1000 rpm whilst accelerating. Very little power below 5k, so I wouldnt say what you say is true for every 125. But I know what you mean.

[@cooper7395]

3:10 did you make your way onto the Isle of Man?

[@drewhender3999]

It's a bit like getting off a 125 4 stroke onto a 2 stroke, you go from pulling away at 3000 to 6000 😂

[@johna6968]

Power characteristics on a larger capacity in line 4 are different again.

[@spicy110]

Indeed

[@penfold83glen5]

Kool vid and when did they bring on download

[@edwinrussell153]

could you do a how to ride video of riding up hills on a 125 like long steep(ish) hills as there is a lot of long steep hills near me and I don't want to get stuck half way up. thanks

[@CantEatRS]

Edwin wait for it Russell Just stay in a low gear

[@IamVodapo]

Spicy could you make a video on different engine types for dummies (aka me). Like what the difference is between V twin, parallel twin and inline 4. Maybe something about what 2 strokes are?

[@spicy110]

Already have couple of months ago. 👍

[@IamVodapo]

Mechanically speaking though what does it actually mean, v twin? Presumably there's two of something? Same for parallel and inline 4, what are the physical differences?

[@stevejones8665]

IsntThisAStupidName Yes your Spot on there👍I also prefer twins to four's because they are so much cheaper and easier to maintain 2 less Spark plugs 2 less Carbs or Injectors 2 less Ignition coils and leads 😆 so basically half the price and half the time to maintain . plus there usually lighter.

[@jeffcarey7013]

Thanks spicy110 for this video, I'm starting DA next month and was a bit apprehensive about riding a 4 pot, I've only ride a 125 ,single and a quick lesson on a ER6 twin.I'm going to be learning on a 600 hornet and cannot wait, I've a quick question for you first 600 big bike would it be best to go faired or naked? Cheers for any help you can offer Jeff

[@musguelha14]

jeff carey Hornet is a very easy bike to ride, don't worry about it.

[@jeffcarey7013]

Pedro Silva looking forward to it, gotta wait until 16 of next month as my new instructors going on holiday. But cannot wait to get on a bigger bike especially for longer trips, I did Sheffield to Kent in January on a 125, took me 8 fcuking hours and I was exhausted after that.

[@musguelha14]

jeff carey For big trips and fast roads big bikes are great. For the city and slower roads, there's a lot of fun to be had in a small bike, because you feel like you're really pushing the bike. On a sporty 600 the top of second gear is already ilegal speeds.

[@kingfisherphil]

Gr8 video !

[@apm136]

did you rebalance your crank when you got your big bore kit on the drz, itd help with vibrations and the stalling with inexperience. sorry if youve made vids on the matter only been subbed for a few months

[@spicy110]

Hey not made that video as it's a Non issue the weight of the big bore piston is so close to the stock one it isn't a issue. The stalling is due to people getting off fuel injected sports bikes on to a big single that is carbed. 👍

[@apm136]

spicy110 ah fair enough, I think ive just been watching a bit much 2t stuffing

[@maycrotch8576]

A lot of fantastic advice, really useful 👍👍👍

[@maycrotch8576]

SCHABZINGER!!!!!!!

[@Lucian-wn9se]

SPICY WHAT YORUS THOUGHTS ON 400'S?

[@spicy110]

I own one? Haha

[@Lucian-wn9se]

thats now 440 :) what about say the older sports bikes and nakeds id love a honda bros for work

[@c9njryt209]

Thanks to you I’ve got a sinnis 125 aha best bike ever on city roads you don’t need anything more powerfully

[@draiguk]

I think part of the point of the video was that while you don't *need* any more than a 125 for riding around the city, (assuming you stick to speed limits) it is actually a bit easier to ride a bigger bike somewhere in the 600-700 range, and it gives you all the options you need for when you are not going around the city but on your travels elsewhere. Even then, a 125 will get you wherever you wish to go, a bigger bike just does everything that bit better.

[@14Freedom2]

Excellent advice

[@gremlin2288]

Psst it's the triple for me 😉 👍…………………………………..

[@easternmenace]

Thank you Spicy, very cool

[@veesixify]

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[@adenlamb9916]

but divi has an extra 30 horsepower or so than an A2 bike would.

[@spicy110]

Engine still works the same and who's to say said person isn't going das. 🙂

[@sponge920]

Quite right, my good man.

[@KentRoads]

It is literally exactly the same, riding all bikes :P

[@spicy110]

No it isn't lol

[@KentRoads]

Ok, the only difference being weight :P

[@spicy110]

Ride a in-line four and a v twin and tell me it's the same. I have ridden over 50 different bikes in the last 3 years with many different engines. Each engine has its own characteristics, and each engine type has its own characteristics.

[@StardustGalaxyGG]

Bike Stream so you're telling me you would ride an inline 4 engine the same as a v twin?

[@KentRoads]

Stardust Galaxyblade almost exactly the same... you rev a bit and release clutch slowly lol

[@joshwilcox8483]

My wr pulled off without throttle

[@spicy110]

125cc? And was that injected? I'm trying to narrow down what allows a bike to do it.

[@joshwilcox8483]

spicy110 yeah nah I should have said that but they’re injected not carbed as I know the Sunnis is

[@joshwilcox8483]

👊

[@musguelha14]

spicy110 If you set the idle high enough a carbureted 125 will do it. Gearing matters alot too.

[@YammiMT]

You should test ride the MT10 that might change some of your opinions haha 😆

[@spicy110]

That's not a 600...😉

[@YammiMT]

spicy110 I no but definitely try and take a test ride on one recon you will love it 😊

[@spicy110]

Haha It's definitely on the list but my local dealer sold their demo. Must go back 🙂👍

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