How to Safely Use Microsoft Windows XP in 2024

[@demirdmr256]

Great video! But speaking of browsers, you forgot to mention Supermium which is a Chromium fork and right now it's the most up-to-date web browser for XP

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

thanks for reaching out about Supermium! Here's what I found: version 115 seems compatible, but the download wasn't on GitHub. Version 121 mentions a portable version working with XP, downloadable from the developer's Patreon page. While it doesn't appear there's a free version for XP, it'd be great to hear how you got yours! Maybe there's another option we can explore together.

[@SinsBird]

@@adventuresinnostalgia What do you mean? I downloaded 122 straight from github releases.

[@_lun4r_]

@@adventuresinnostalgia 💀 paywalling a fork of an open source project lmao

[@tibo5078]

@@adventuresinnostalgia There is a free version. In fact, you just have to extract the installer and then extract the 7z file inside that extracted installer and it will start just fine.

[@charginginprogresss]

Really? I tried a xp vm last week and downloaded supermium 120 for free from their website so idk

[@demirdmr256]

Also when using an extension to block ads and many websites with filters etc. ublock origin is the best option imo as it includes a ton of filter lists from various developers

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That's a great point about uBlock Origin! For viewers who might be new to extensions, are there any specific features of uBlock Origin that make it a good choice for Windows XP?

[@hydradragonantivirus]

or xylent

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

@hydradragonantivirus Thanks for the comment! 'or xylent' - is that a typo, or is there a secret Windows XP term I'm not familiar with? Let me know!

[@rondog086]

@@adventuresinnostalgia ublock is much much better than abp

[@paulstubbs7678]

I would like to keep using XP, mostly for retro boxes, in which case web traffic would be restricted to locally hosted stuff. If you want to browse the web, setup another computer with a recent copy of Linux. The same goes for email. It would be nice to have some box to filter my network traffic so as to provide a sanitised version fit for XP and other 'ancient' Windows flavours - however I've had no success searching for any help on this front. The activation and update bit is a right pain, so I now don't try doing new installations, I just use saved images that are close enough then just make a few changes as needed. If you have a nice XP setup, grab an image now.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That's a very interesting setup you have for your retro boxes! Restricting web traffic to local content is a great way to keep XP secure. For viewers who might be curious about replicating this, could you elaborate a bit on how you achieved the network traffic filtering? Are there any specific tools or configurations you recommend?

[@paulstubbs7678]

@@adventuresinnostalgia I don't have any filtering at present, that's why I said 'it would be nice', I just avoid the browser unless I want to talk to my Volumio streamer, or my NAS's control page etc, it's more an excuse to run the old web browser, in reality, for day to day use I usually do those things with an up to date PC. I'm not really into games, so the retro bit is more connecting things together and fideling

[@virtuosoification]

open bsd, i had this over 20 yrs ago prlly much easier to set up now

[@russellmania5349]

Windows XP was the best. It was user friendly and very light on resources and you didn't need that much Ram. Windows 7 was decent, but required most people to upgrade their PC's because of the heavy system requirements it required. Windows 10, 11, and beyond is just malware.

[@BurkenProductions]

Was? It still is. no need to speak in the past

[@jec_ecart]

Agree.

[@Gunner98]

I don't understand why people like to throw processing power at everything instead of keeping things light and simple

[@jmanbesleepy]

If u think that why not stay with it? What os or windows ver u using rn? Or if you do what software are u unable to access?

[@bertnijhof5413]

I installed Windows XP Home in a Virtualbox VM in March 2010. That VM survived 2 VBox owners; 3 desktops and 4 CPUs. XP received all the updates till they stopped in 2014. I use the VM weekly to play the wma copies of my CDs and LPs with WoW and TrueBass effects. It could run Firefox 52.9.0 ESR; Format Factory 3.3.5; Rufus 2.14; Google SketchUp 8 and MS-Office 2003 :) I almost never use those programs anymore except Windows Media Player. I use the newest IOBIT software (Advanced System Care; Application Software Updater; Malware Fighter and Uninstaller) to maintain the system.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

You were able to replace hardware and the same Windows XP installation still worked? That's awesome. Over all that time did you have to upgrade Vurtualbox?

[@bertnijhof5413]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Yes, I upgraded VirtualBox, and it runs now on the latest release 7.1.2 and Windows XP is still activated. I expect I activated it on a 2008 laptop with Athlon X2 (2C2T, 1.8GHz), it was the last laptop I used for work. It did run Ubuntu 10.04 LTS as Host OS and Windows XP VM was for compatibility with work (MS-Office). After retirement I used XP on a HP d510 with a Pentium 4 HT (1C2T; 3.2 GHz); HP dc5850 with a Phenom X3 (3C3T; 2.3 GHz) and later a Phenom II X4 (4C4T; 3.2 GHz) and an own build with a Ryzen 3 2200G (4C4T; 3.7 GHz). I assume Microsoft is more flexible with VMs, because in large organizations the VM might be run on a different server after - a switch over to a stand-by system after a HW failure or after - load balancing over a number of servers - the number of logical cores can be incompatible with Cores and Threads of the HW CPU, - some hypervisors might lie about the hardware; you have to select for the VM from a limited list of typical CPUs. I only lost the activation of the Windows Vista VM, all other Windows VMs from 2000, XP, 7, 8.1, 10 to 11 remain activated.

[@czos9239]

Same here. First xp vm was on a 3770k and bounced around until today. Older sw that works just fine I didn’t want to lose.

[@QuicksilverSG]

I installed Windows 7 on an 8-core 32GB Ryzen 7 desktop PC in Jan 2020. The only unsupported hardware feature is USB-C (Win7 driver not available), which can easily be worked around with a USB-3 adapter. I have a legacy Win7 corporate account from Microsoft and still receive periodic security updates. Mosaic also provides Win7 updates for Firefox. I use this Win7 machine daily and it still runs flawlessly. I have no plans to upgrade it further, particularly not since Windows 10 is scheduled to go EOL next year in 2025.

[@The_DreadStorm]

A little tip for XP users (of which I am one): If you go where your Network Adapter is, you can right-click on it, and drop a shortcut of it onto your desktop, making the switch easier. Right-clicking on the shortcut will also enable/disable it. I have two adapters in my machine, so I renamed the shortcut for the Internet one "Internet Connection" and the other is for my private domain. That way, when I go on the Internet, I can also disable the LAN one for added protection. Just makes things a whole lot easier. Or even better, make a batch file that enables one and disables the other with a simple double-click. If someone's familiar with XP, chances are they're familiar with Dial-Up internet access. Just think of it as that - dialing out and disconnecting. I am of the school of thought that, since I use internet sparingly on my XP rig, I don't need Antivirus. But I do use Microsoft's own Windows Defender for XP. Less bloat and BS, and with a little know-how, you can manually update the definitions for it using a download of the data file for a 32-bit Win7 version. Of course, until it's discontinued. heh

[@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster]

I'm still on Windows 3.1 😮.

[@w.dgaming1]

Thou arf the safest

[@sse2cpu]

Thanks for taking my suggestion!😊

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

You're welcome! Glad you found the video helpful. Did you have any specific features of Windows XP you were hoping to keep using? If there are any other retro tech tutorials you'd like to see, let me know!

[@sse2cpu]

@@adventuresinnostalgia supermium for windows xp!

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Here's what I found: version 115 seems compatible, but the download wasn't on GitHub. Version 121 mentions a portable version working with XP, downloadable from the developer's Patreon page. While it doesn't appear there's a free version for XP, it'd be great to hear how you got yours! Maybe there's another option we can explore together.

[@kungfooman]

A PC can be hacked through many ways, not just being connected to the internet. For example pictures can contain viruses, which are executed during thumbnail generation for `explorer.exe`. That's why you still need a virus scanner to prevent possible data loss or simply make sure to make enough backups of your important data.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thank you for sharing this excellent nugget of knowledge!

[@AhmedMar-x9h]

When I first used windows 7 on a laptop, it made me feel like an entrepreneur. Same thing with a time i tried Xp. Both amazing and clean experiences!

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That's awesome! Windows XP definitely had a special feel to it. What was it about XP that made you feel like an entrepreneur? Was it the customization options or the sense of accomplishment after troubleshooting something?

[@AhmedMar-x9h]

I tried XP for the first time, and the customization options were a significant aspect of it! I never knew you could change the themes. If you were using Windows XP back in the 2000s, you would know that it wasn't exactly the safest operating system. Therefore, I had gotten a virus on my computer at one point and later had to reinstall Windows XP. This was the beginning of my journey to becoming a technician. But when I fixed my computer, I felt like I had accomplished everything.

[@LeooSaGoh]

Useful as always. Already waiting for Use Vista Forever, specially 32bits 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thanks! Glad you found it useful. While XP holds a special place in our hearts, are there any specific features of Vista 32-bit you'd love to see covered in a future video?

[@lukewt1017]

@@adventuresinnostalgia I think that this person is saying that they want a version of this video, but for Windows Vista 32 bit.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

@lukewt1017 Interesting! There seems to be some interest in a Windows Vista version. Would a video on securing Windows Vista 32-bit be something you and other viewers would find helpful?

[@Pokerium]

@@adventuresinnostalgia That would be very helpful

[@lukewt1017]

@@adventuresinnostalgia It would most certainly be helpful! If you make a tutorial for Windows Vista 32-bit, most things will also work on Windows Vista 64-bit, so it's a win-win for both x64 and x86. Maybe you could also do this for Windows 7.

[@CesareVesdani]

Windows XP forever nostalgia.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Do you still run Windows XP?

[@CesareVesdani]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Yes, I do. On some computers and VirtualBox. The nostalgia never ends.

[@jesusdacoast872]

​@@adventuresinnostalgiastill have a laptop running Windows XP since 2006 ❤

[@sonicgalaxy27]

Windows XP is far by one of my top favorite computers I have ever own.

[@SametKaratas-db1xu]

I use Windows Server 2008 R2 with Microsoft Security Essentials by fully updated (including sha-2 code signing support) to update Microsoft Security Essentials. I use Windows Server 2008 R2 for playing roblox games (like Brookhaven rp, pet simulator 99 etc.)

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That's interesting! While Server 2008 R2 is more secure than XP, have you considered any alternative solutions for playing Roblox safely, given the security risks of unsupported operating systems?

[@SametKaratas-db1xu]

@@adventuresinnostalgia I upgrade to Windows 10 and Windows 11 recently. But, Windows 10 and Windows 11 crashed my computer. So, I downgraded to Windows 7. I have slight crash issues so, I upgraded to Windows Server 2008 R2. Windows Server 2008 R2 doesn't crash of me

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you manage to identify what might have caused those crashes on Windows 10/11? Other viewers may be having similar issues.

[@SametKaratas-db1xu]

@@adventuresinnostalgia when I start Windows 11 by press power button, gets blue screen. But, sometimes when I start Windows 11 by press power button, didn't has blue screen luckily

[@SametKaratas-db1xu]

Same for Windows 10

[@Onverted]

how am i supposed to use the internet without getting hacked?

[@davidkimsey6451]

Shouldn't this thing be behind a firewall with just about all of the ports locked down?

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

You're absolutely right, a firewall is essential. Beyond a firewall, are there any other security measures viewers should consider when using Windows XP in 2024?

[@redacted629]

Depending of rig, an IDS or IPS (intrusion detection or intrusion prevention) virtual or physical box would massively reduce the threat vector. If you run it outwith the XP you can trap it before it's a risk. Or you could try to make it a container within QubesOS but heavier lifting requited to produce.

[@costincodreanu5446]

Adventures In Nostalgia, I want to say you can use java and flash player as long as is from the last version and not doing any online banking or not having any critical important data stored

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

thanks for your comment! While it's true that using the latest version of Java and Flash Player might help a little, Windows XP itself isn't receiving security updates anymore. This means there are known vulnerabilities that could be exploited. Do you have any thoughts on how to mitigate these security risks while using XP?

[@costincodreanu5446]

@@adventuresinnostalgia don't worry it's fully updated including official updates by Microsoft and updates from posready 2009 and it has tls 1.1 and 1.2 for internet explorer 8. I am using a laptop and it has windows xp professional service pack 3 and I never use an antivirus and I used virustotal to scan if a file is malicious or clean. It's very easy to stay safe as long as you don't go to sketchy and dangerous website and don't crack software

[@OwnedByWuigi]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Considering XP's source code got leaked, someone in the community might make updates for 2024

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

How do you manage software compatibility? Many modern programs and applications are no longer compatible with Windows XP.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

@OwnedByWuigi You're right, the source code leak does open possibilities. Do you think it's realistic for the community to create a truly secure Windows XP update in 2024?

[@unclej3910]

I still have an emachines PC with Windows XP. I haven’t turned it on in a few years. Purchased it within weeks or even days before they stopped selling computers loaded with XP.

[@cooperstan581]

I have used xp in my recording studio for many years , I have found the best way is to get the system working and then disconnect from the internet completely. Never let your computers ever "talk" to the internet again.

[@AppleFan-md9sp]

How you got Internet connection on VirtualBox?

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

that's a great question! For setting up internet on VirtualBox with Windows XP, there are some helpful tutorials online. would you be interested in a future video specifically on internet connection methods for VirtualBox?

[@AppleFan-md9sp]

@@adventuresinnostalgia I had a problems with Internet connection on Windows XP and Windows Vista on VirtualBox, but not on Windows 7 and later. That’s probably because drivers don’t support outdated versions of Windows.

[@charginginprogresss]

idk about virtualbox, that said VMware has no issues, it uses your internet no problem.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

@AppleFan-md9sp The default configuration in VirtualBox should work for Windows XP. Under File>Preferences>Network the screen should be blank in terms of entries under "NAT Networks". There are a number of things you can go with VirtualBox networking that requires various different configurations. maybe you had to set one up in the past for some reason and that is causing the issue.

[@kirekocev2587]

Does Windows XP 64 bit support the latest version of FL Studio?

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

According to the MSFN forums, Yes. This list is essentially for both XP and Vista msfn.org/board/topic/175262-last-versions-of-software-for-windows-vista-and-windows-server-2008/

[@kirekocev2587]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Thank You Sir!

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

You are most welcome! Let us know how it works

[@kirekocev2587]

​@@adventuresinnostalgiaWell sadly, it gave me a dll error

[@breadcraft3605]

@@kirekocev2587just use a modern os.

[@algorithminc.8850]

Great bits ... still some XP development done here ... like it. I look forward to checking out your channel. Subscribed. Cheers

[@LegoPossessed]

In my opinion, I wouldn't turn off autorun because I find it a useful feature. The only time I would disable it is when I'm dealing with a disc, flash drive or floppy diskette that I have no clue what it has. Why? It's mostly a matter of physical security, not cyber security like it is with most of the suggestions in this video.

[@gamereditor59ner22]

Interesting...🤔 Can I use it on Type 1 hypervisor ?

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thanks for the comment! That's a fascinating question. Using XP in a virtual environment can be interesting. Are you familiar with setting up a Type 1 hypervisor like VMware ESXi or Microsoft Hyper-V? There can be some challenges running XP on a Type 1 hypervisor, like driver compatibility. Knowing which one you use might help with specific instructions.

[@gamereditor59ner22]

​@@adventuresinnostalgia I want to see to setup in VMWare on my laptop plus adding other OS. Edit: Great! Thank you! Great video and keep it up!

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thank you for the feedback! Let us know how the project goes

[@gamereditor59ner22]

@@adventuresinnostalgia You welcome!

[@breadcraft3605]

@@gamereditor59ner22VMware workstation is a type 2 hypervisor

[@jaceydurland9098]

Windows XP is a great OS. I used it all the way up until 2009. Now I use Windows 10 online and Windows Vista offline.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

thanks for sharing your experience! Windows XP definitely has a special place in many hearts. Out of curiosity, what do you use Windows Vista offline for?"

[@jaceydurland9098]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Old games that no longer run well on the modern operating systems.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That list of games is growing rapidly it seems. I recently read that more people are playing games from 7-10 years ago then titles that were released this year.

[@SoftwareRat]

Why are you still recommending antivirus software in 2024 that on the one hand slows down the system extremely (in the case of XP computers even dramatically) and on the other hand is dubious in terms of their business models?

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thanks for your comment! That's a very interesting point about antivirus software on Windows XP. While antivirus software can be helpful in protecting against some threats, it's true that it can also slow down a system. Ultimately, the decision of whether or not to use antivirus software on Windows XP is a personal one. There are some risks associated with not having any antivirus protection, but there are also downsides to using antivirus software. For viewers who might be hesitant about Avast, do you have any alternative antivirus recommendations that work well with Windows XP?

[@ShaknunicPT-BR]

Avast doesn't even officially support the version available on XP so indeed, why the recommendation?

[@JamesSmith-ix5jd]

1) Put your XP machine on a separate VLAN, do not enable network discovery. 2) Never login to any important sites like email, banking, shopping sites. Compartmentalize your posswords into important, regular and junk. Only use junk accounts on a junk XP system. 3) Consider this machine as a library computer - everything on it is infected or stolen, you just don't know about it yet. Don't store important files on this machine. Don't transfer files from XP to your main Windows, format your usb flash drive if you need to insert it into your clean system. That's about it, other than these rules you can use it as you like, no need for an antivirus even.

[@CorporateSycophant]

I was hoping you found a magical way of using WinXP as a modern day OS.

[@jagmarc]

What about instructions for TLS.v1.2 and TLS.v1.3 support? , since more than 90% of websites require a SSL connection before they even load. And to disable SSL2 and SSL3 etc etc which also stop pages loading. I had manually tweak the registry

[@plainsabertooth7828]

My issue is that I want to use windows xp but most software wants a cpu with sse2 and my dual Pentium 3 box doesn't have it.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Interesting! What kind of software are you hoping to run on your XP machine? Knowing the specific needs might help us brainstorm some workarounds.

[@plainsabertooth7828]

@@adventuresinnostalgia a web browser mostly:)

[@cosmicnebula3023]

k-meleon should work. it's a browser that doesn't even need a CPU with regular SSE. It also still gets updates for windows xp.

[@Charbullet]

Where can I find and download/update all the needed drivers for my pc running windows XP without reinstalling the os and if I have no idea which driver is compatible with my computer

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Snappy Driver installer Origin is a good tool. I have had success with it. Do not use the one that doesn't have "Origin" in the title. it contains malware

[@FrankMcalary]

I am really considering "upgrading" to windows xp after "upgrading" to windows 7 from windows 11. Unfortunately, however my steam games are holding me back :(

[@sonicgalaxy27]

Windows XP is far by one of my top favorite computers I have ever own.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Is there a petition to allow access to your digital library from any operating system? If not, there needs to be! If the minimum requirements say "Windows 98" I should be able to use the platform to download and install the game from a Windows 98 system.

[@joetheman74]

Doesn't Legacy Update directly fly in the face of your stance on 3rd party service packs and updates from POS Ready? It's the same damn thing. THIRD PARTY. There could be unintentional security flaws and malware. That's what YOU said about 3rd party right? I disagree. The majority of the entire internet runs on an operating system made by the community and many many many 3rd parties. And yes even though Linux also just had a recent security flaw, has had them in the past and will again I'm sure it is still more secure and better than windows or most large corporations wouldn't be running their infrastructure on it and the internet would run on Windows. Windows has also had MANY MANY MANY MANY security flaws (that's why it has needed so many updates over the years) and even hardware can have security flaws. Intel processors have had and even recently an repairable security flaw in all Apples new M1 and M2 processors. Mitigation and safety are the key instead of being afraid of "third party" updates and security patches. I trust the open source community far more then I would MS. A company that is now BLOCKING users from updating their OS it they installed certain features to restore lost functionality to windows 11 that came standard in all previous versions of windows. And THIS is who you trust?

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Yes, Legacy Update is 100% against my stance on the use of 3rd party updates. However, should Microsoft one day decide to remove all Windows XP updates from their servers, the WSUS program, etc. Legacy Update may be the only option. which is not dissimilar to the direction we are going with Windows generally. Linux may be the only option. I agree with your disagreement. In many ways Linux is superior to Windows, and one does not necessarily replace the other. The point within the context of the video is, the further out you go from the Microsoft ecosystem the more issue you will run into with security, compatibility, performance, etc. All software is flawed, and the flaws will be found and exploited eventually. For every software developer that is an indeterminate number of offensive security specialists working to find and exploit every imaginable vulnerability It's not about trust, it's about stability and function. Microsoft exists to make money. the Linux community exists to make and support good operating systems and software. Those two things don't really work well together on Windows XP.

[@zazuradia]

If i were to download and install the latest official xp updates, where would i need to be going? (Also, since i have a dual boot with windows 98, if i can get updates for that one too, it would be great. Obviously i need an offline capable installer, since i'm not going to connect the computer to the internet. Thanks in advance!!

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

It might be better to just go for a Linux distribution that supports your hardware but is still getting updates, and if you're desperate for the look that's easily attained Then use Bottles and Boxes to run the software you can't replace with FOSS workflow This way you have the latest security patches without resorting to shenanigans

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

I don't think it's just about the look. There is a lot of nuance in the user experience between Linux and Windows. For example I expect a BSOD while I am in the middle of working so I can take a break!

[@TIMETOGAMEEEEEEEE]

i tryed to get avast it said needs windows 7 sp1 because it was my aunt lins laptop with a xp vm/it was my uncle jims. and it had photos personal info everything

[@archniki_]

I installed Hearthstone when was early and could update it with battle net even after support was over. It only required to download extra file that isnt included in update but updated.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Does that still work for Hearthstone?

[@cosmicnebula3023]

There is actually a browser that is still being supported and developed for Windows XP systems, and that's k-meleon

[@User-hbcfgukn]

I use windows xp in a pc where well-known things exist. My pc already have highend facilities so I don't have any panic within virtual machine before needs upgrade actually I have used windows xp as VM. Earlier, I run windows xp easily old computer I had. I played emulator games still on my computer. It's nice and convenient after shut down satisfyingly.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Sounds like you have a very effective strategy for continuing to use Windows XP. Thank you for sharing!

[@rowen342]

This was really helpful! I'm planning on bulding a PC using 2000s parts with Windows XP, and this provided me with a lot of important information! Thanks!

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That's awesome! I'm glad the video was helpful. What other 2000s parts are you thinking about using in your build?

[@rowen342]

@@adventuresinnostalgia I'm planning on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+, GeForce 8800 GTX, Asus A8N-SLI, and 2 gigs of RAM.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thats sounds like a sweet rig! Two 1GB sticks of ram in a dual channel setup or just a single 2GB stick?

[@rowen342]

@@adventuresinnostalgia 2 sticks of 1 gigabyte

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Excellent choice!

[@jaydenthomas820]

what about supermium

[@PoseMotion]

That's funny. I still use Flash on Windows XP, 7 and 10. Not sure what you all are doing on your PC's but all is fine here. Be nice if Firefox would still make updates for XP but what can you do.

[@15voltz]

does this work for windows whistler

[@klausb.7505]

I absolutly agree ! Very good Video ! Thx 4 the tips !

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video! While XP was great, are there any features from newer versions you miss?

[@klausb.7505]

@@adventuresinnostalgia it's mostly more about using old Hardware (maybe oddware from the old Days) and old Games, but I wouldn't give it Internet permission, LAN only (seperate smb1 net). Older Digital VCR/DVD Player and Androids with Net connection can only use SMB1. N1c3 having a XP Machine by Hand (too)

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

@klausb.7505 Thanks for the comment! That's a good point about using XP for LAN-only tasks and older devices. Out of curiosity, have you had any experience running an XP machine on a separate SMB1 network for things like digital VCRs or older Androids? It would be interesting to hear more about your setup.

[@dongdiectrong5706]

Does avast or avg free still support xp right now

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

yes, the download page is still live - www.avast.com/windows-xp-antivirus

[@The-E-Base]

As of right now, the Wibdows XP system i have has no internet, but at the same time it already had stuff on there (it's a used system), so I'm already kinda screwed.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

that's a tricky situation. Without internet access, security updates for XP won't be possible. But, depending on what kind of stuff is on the system, there might still be ways to use it safely. What kind of things are you hoping to do with the computer?

[@The-E-Base]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Although it is mainly used as a backup computer, I actually plan on making a few games on there. (Also, almost everything else I have doesn't have internet either)

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

when you say making games, do you mean creating them or playing them?

[@The-E-Base]

@@adventuresinnostalgia creating them.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

I would love to hear more about these games you make!

[@G0NZ-b9y]

If I recall correctly, each version of Windows has a cap on memory usage. i think was 4gb on xp, no matter how much ram you have.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

It's not the version of Windows that has a hard limit so much as the CPU type. A 32-bit System does have a hard limit at 4 GB of ram

[@williamlegotyler1825]

Amazing videos! i love them,you helped me so much to make my windows xp vm working perfectly! Now im moving to windows 98 can you make an update video on windows 98 web browsers

[@trongtruongthi2430]

When I was trying to install avast on a real xp pc, It said it requires windows 7 sp1

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

There is a separate download page for the Windows XP version - www.avast.com/es-es/windows-xp-antivirus

[@Hacker70000]

Serpent 55 does support windows xp k meleon also supports it

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thanks for letting us know about Serpent 55 and K-meleon! It's helpful to have options for XP users. For viewers who might not be familiar, could you tell us a bit more about what features these browsers offer and how they compare to the last official Chrome version for XP?

[@Hacker70000]

Serpent has two versions serpent 52 and serpent 55 serpent 52 does not support extensions and serpent 55 does for chromium based browser I have heard that thorium will add support for xp and vista serpent is based on basilisk which is based on firefox

[@GU__NI]

So if you have a win10/xp dual boot setup. If im connected on the WIN10. Can the system still be exploited because xp is sintalled on the system? Or only if im logged into xp and connected to the internet?

[@TIMETOGAMEEEEEEEE]

also I would use panda dome for windows xp I think panda dome needs sp3

[@ChrisOrban79]

1994-1997 i used Windows 3.11 1997-2004 Windows NT4 2004-2013 Windows 2000 and since the end of 2013 i use Windows XP since 10 years

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

You held off on upgrading for an exceptionally long time. That's really interesting. Do you recall why you ended up switching from say Windows 3.11 to nt4?

[@ChrisOrban79]

@@adventuresinnostalgia bikoz nt4 is not based on Dos

[@ChrisOrban79]

Windows XP is the Last Windows im using at Moment its No Problem bikoz there are 3 Browsers supporting XP, mypal, supremium ans SeaMonkey If they dönt will Support the next years xp than I Switch to Linux Mint Mate 21 I tested It and áll My old Windows Programms Run very good in Linux Mate with wine

[@christiansvensson3571]

Old times and memories from the past! Now Windows 10 is the very best! That's it! 🙂🙂

[@justsumguy2u]

XP was my first o/s, and I would not recommend using it today. Even back in the day when it was fully up-to-date and used with antivirus, it was still a virus magnet---too many built-in exploits. If you really want to run a legacy o/s, Win7 was far more secure

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Windows XP has always had many security vulnerabilities, handle it...

[@justsumguy2u]

@@adventuresinnostalgia I will not handle it, I just refuse to use it online---like anyone with common sense would.

[@jagmarc]

Anyone know where I can get a virus too. For 15 years I've run internet XP SP3 with zero security just the windows firewall. All I'd ever caught is the odd unwanted program manually uninstall

[@TechDeviceFixerCZ]

Activating Windows XP by phone still works (at least here in Czechia 🇨🇿 it does), there is a bot talking to you, which probably doesn't require much maintnance

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Excellent point. The overall cost may be minimal

[@tibo5078]

Nice video!

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thanks! Windows XP can be a classic! What security measures do you use to keep your XP system safe?

[@tibo5078]

I use Supermium to browse the web instead of the old Internet Explorer, and i fully patch my Windows XP install with legacy update.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Legacy update gives you access to the same Windows updates from Microsoft that you would get from the old Windows update site right? Meaning there isn't a limitation like no post SP3 updates?

[@tibo5078]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Yeah!

[@craigdavidson2278]

I always change the DNS settings, look for one that offers your specofic needs....

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That's good advice. Which one offers the best speed these days? still Cloudflare?

[@craigdavidson2278]

@@adventuresinnostalgia speed not my priority but security (reduced ads, spoof sites etc) adguard is good (family filtering option best) but there are others.

[@danielivanov930]

You forgot to add supermium as an browser option .

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

thanks for reaching out about Supermium! Here's what I found: version 115 seems compatible, but the download wasn't on GitHub. Version 121 mentions a portable version working with XP, downloadable from the developer's Patreon page. While it doesn't appear there's a free version for XP, it'd be great to hear how you got yours! Maybe there's another option we can explore together.

[@danielivanov930]

@@adventuresinnostalgia oh,didn't knew,watched michael mjd where he did some workarounds to get the latest one running

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

I'm curious about the workarounds you mentioned from Michael MJD's video. Can you tell me a bit more about them?

[@danielivanov930]

@@adventuresinnostalgia he had problem with the installator as well . System requirements first need to have xp sp3 or later or windows server 2003 sp2 or later . Cpu must be dual core with sse2 instructions . He installed 7zip and opened the exe file and extracted the progrwrp dll file ,then he opened inside the mini installer.exe and extracted the chrome.7z file,he extracts then the chrome-bin folder and puts that dll file in that folder and then he opens supermium .You can find his video if you need to check how he did it,it looked confusing at first . I don't have xp machine,i got windows 7 machines .The title of the vid is Supermium - A Modern Web Browser for XP and Vista! by Michael MJD . .He used version 121 . Hope it helps .

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

@danielivanov930 Thank you for the details! it sounds like a good bit of effort and time when into getting Supermium working. Hopefully it was worth it. From what I have seen of Michael MJD's videos he doesn't do many follow-ups on stuff like that

[@tarunr1949]

Honestly i dont care about using internet on xp. I simply want to use it as a low tech escape

[@skeletor8250]

The problem is that any browser that still runs on XP will not work properly or at all with may websites, like bank websites, eBay, paypal, and youtube. My mail client that ran on XP no longer supports TLS 1.2 so no email. Newest websites use technologies that will not work if you disable flash or scripting. Website designers, in a fanatical loyalty to the newest tech, are making XP obsolete. I can still use XP , disconnected from the web, to drive my machine tools, using dedicated decades old software, but the minute you want to use major websites, in the same way that normal people do, you are derailed.

[@jagmarc]

@@skeletor8250 I just installed XP Pro SP3 on a Dell portable. Lightning fast. For fast web browsing I just needed to install IE8 then POSReady for the TLSV1.1 and TLSv1.2

[@jagmarc]

Ps. And change the browser's User Agent to prevent web servers discover you're running xp

[@lesterjargus5311]

@@jagmarc I was going to comment the same thing.

[@Jestr86]

Windows 2000 Pro always be my favorite OS.. XP comes in 2nd followed by 7 Ultimate.. dont like 8 or 10

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Haha, Windows 2000 Pro! That takes me back! What was your favorite thing about it? Personally, I always loved the classic sounds

[@Jestr86]

@@adventuresinnostalgia the sounds, lightweight install had early features of XP and the classic look..

[@thesilentgeneration]

Are you saying Microsoft still makes updates for XP? I doubt it.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

No, the last official update for windows XP was a single out-of-band patch from 2019

[@phoenixhenson3689]

yeah but is XP useable on touchscreen devices because that is the next phase?

[@Blueaboudy]

I think if I used lok board and add the windows xp wallpaper it will look like windows xp

[@GeoShreyashSarkar]

Can I get That ISO Please?

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

thanks for the comment. Great question! Just to clarify, are you looking for a pre-made ISO or wanting to create your own using the video? The video actually walks you through creating your own Windows XP ISO. Follow along closely, and you'll have your own ISO in no time! Let me know if you get stuck at any point

[@Saudade720]

With a firewall how would another computer even find your xp computer ?

[@guffingtonreal]

Downloading extra antivirus software is only important on old versions of Windows. In Windows 11 and 10, Defender is good enough and catches most things instantly, entirely for free.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That's a valid point for newer Windows versions! However, Windows XP Defender has known limitations. Would you recommend any specific additional security measures for viewers who choose to stick with XP?

[@charginginprogresss]

Anything prior to windows 10 1903 needs an antivirus. The choice is one that still receives definition updates currently, like Avast for XP, for example.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

@charginginprogresss out of curiosity why is the cutoff point that that specific version of Windows 10 from 2019?

[@charginginprogresss]

iirc that's the version when the windows defender "got good", on 8 and before defender was bad, and win 10 inherited it, after a big update there was a major overhaul of features including defender I am quite sure it is 1903, could be 1809 too tho not sure. In any case up to date 10 and 11 and currently supported ltsc (10 2019, 10 2021) all have the good defender

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

@charginginprogresss That is a solid reason! Thank you for the explanation. It makes for a fascinating Google search because the 2023 perspective appears to be that earlier versions of Windows defender were better. I suppose it peeked in 2019 and it's been downhill since then.

[@AmitaabKalyankar-ct6xl]

How about making a video on using windows Vista safely forever?

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That is absolutely on my agenda. I can't promise when the video will be out, but I can assure you that I intend to make it!

[@kyled00m]

I think Windows XP will eventually become too "outdated" (unsupported by big company software). I'll give it 12-35 years before that happens though (or maybe 8-35 if big companies target Windows XP with ill intents).

[@MacXtc]

I wouldn't use Avast to guard my electric toaster

[@jamescooper-key218]

is it true that Adventures in nostalgia reply’s to all his comments? Let’s see!

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

I do my best to reply to as many comments as I can. Sometimes it takes me a while.

[@geometrikselfelsefesi]

Another way to use xp forever is by wine + linux + themes

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thanks for the suggestion! Wine + Linux + themes sounds interesting, especially for viewers who are comfortable with that setup. Could you elaborate a bit on the process for those who might be new to it?

[@breadcraft3605]

@@adventuresinnostalgiawhy do all your replies look chatgpt?

[@UltraZelda64]

The easiest way to make Windows XP safe for long-term future use is quite simple: Unplug the ethernet cable and remove any Wi-Fi drivers. To increase protection a bit more disable autorun. Even better, disable USB mass storage devices entirely. Done. The best way is to just install a better operating system. Who the hell would want to use XP in 2024 anyway?

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

So you are saying unplugging the Ethernet cable and removing wifi drivers should be adequately secure. If Bluetooth is still enable is that a risk too?

[@jediknight2350]

im still using down and bbs maybe ill upgrade 1 day.

[@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim]

forever ever or just forever ?

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

The general consensus is "forever" means as long as you want to. What does it mean to you?

[@thmUNIX]

‘the safest way to such antique OS is to’, I guess, just use it without internet connection 😂

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Technically true... and, it's like saying the safest way to go skiing is to not ski

[@thmUNIX]

@@adventuresinnostalgia like cmon, I understand nostalgia thing, I also like some older versions of OS like Mac OS X 10.6, 10.7 etc, but it is either difficult, or unsafe to use them anyway. If you really like appearance of an older OS, you can just customize, for example, GNU/Linux to be like Windows XP or Snow Leopard. Of course, I understand it is not the same, but I guess, a better approach. But I am working on a desktop environment for GNU/Linux which is called plainDE (actually it is publicly available already for 2.5 yrs) and set an aim of making it the most customizable DE ever, so that transformations would be easier and more realistic

[@GuyManJohnson]

This is a better option for my grandparents than linux

[@breadcraft3605]

An os that has not received any updates since April of 2014 that runs any program with privileges the same as running a program as administrator on windows vista+ for impressionable people that can be scared into downloading anything... looks like a great idea

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

@@breadcraft3605 that's a first OS that I ever use. Windows XP Has been using it since as far as I can remember, and it works (until 2018) Its error maybe confusion and hard to fix, but when it works then it works great.

[@nsawatchlistbait289]

Or get integral edition

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

I hear Integral edition is very good. I haven't tried it myself. What has been your experience with it?

[@nsawatchlistbait289]

@@adventuresinnostalgia I have it in my pendrive and have been procrastinating on installing it because I'm dreading having to reinstall and configure all my softwares

[@FubarMike]

Now we have supermium browser for xp

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

We have a what?

[@FubarMike]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Supermium is a browser based on modern chrome but runs on old versions of windows

[@parkmallbaby]

My man. Team Panda!

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Hey there! Thanks for being a Team Panda supporter! Just curious, are you a long-time Panda Dome user?

[@parkmallbaby]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Yes since the mid 2000s. Free user though.😜

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

I'm in the free camp as well. I don't think I have ever paid for Antivirus software outside of whatever is bundled with the PC s I've purchased.

[@HksjJkdkd]

2:00 LAUGHS IN GNU/LINUX

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

I'm not sure what you mean, please explain

[@HksjJkdkd]

​@@adventuresinnostalgia you have complete privacy on your hardware on GNU Linux for the low price of free. Services that are free but spy on you are never free. And absolutly unnecessary.

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

Like Lindows you mean? Yeah, Linux isn't immune either. Red Hat Linux is a corporate owned Linux that pre-dates most distros today, and also has a pay wall, AND privacy policy of its own. Android is a Linux fork and show me an Android version that has privacy and I'll show you my pet gruffalo. Stop the cap buddy

[@MrSkeptik-z5r]

Did you say POS? what else does that mean?🤣

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Point of Sale. Have you ever used a self checkout at a grocery store? It's kinda neat if you've never done it

[@dennisclapp7527]

Thanks

[@Guilherme36594]

Windows installer 4.5 Supermium Mypal Firefox: 52 ESR Opera 36 PDF Download Foxit PDF Reader 5.4.5.0124 Audio and video Revival: MPC-BE 1.4.7 XP Security Avast or AVG antivirus Others DirectX WinRAR 4.20 (32-bit) Office 2010 Net framework: Impressora: HP deskjet 2540.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thanks for this list! It's really helpful. Can you tell me more about what you plan to use Windows XP for? This will help viewers understand if these programs are the best fit.

[@Guilherme36594]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Actually only in a virtual machine. I play games today that are not compatible with xp.

[@ricardobino7410]

Using XP connected to a network in this day and age is system suicide. The only good reason to still use XP is to use some tool (like most car mechanic soft) that only work in XP, and you would use it in an isolated system not connected to anything, and not use that system for anything other than that very specific task.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Thanks for the comment! You're right about security risks with XP online. In the video, we focus on offline use for specific scenarios. For viewers who might consider XP for a networked machine, what specific security measures would you recommend?

[@ricardobino7410]

@@adventuresinnostalgia if you absolutely must be connected (wich I advice against) connect the XP system through a secure router with incorporated firewall and anti virus protection (they are not the cheap ones) or another computer acting as a router with an up to date system OS and protection. Basically have another system babysit the XP one.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Chances are, if you are connected to the Internet with an XP system you are going to be doing something like updating a game, downloading a mod, pulling up a FAQ or video tutorial, etc. If you were to get a virus or something, you would likely reinstall Windows. What is the worst-case scenario if you were to use an XP system on the Internet?

[@ricardobino7410]

@@adventuresinnostalgia that system (xp) could be the gateway through wich an attack can compromise your whole network, including up to date systems. Also could compromise your data (being stolen or lost/corrupted).

[@jaceydurland9098]

@@adventuresinnostalgia It could transfer to other PCs if you're using a WIFI network. Also, it is possible in a rare event that your hardware itself could get compromised and thus a reinstall would not fix the issue.

[@DaMu24]

Bloat the operating system with antivirus, wow ok

[@Kani8122]

Now do "How to safely use Windows 98 forever".

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Haha, that's a bold request! Windows 98 definitely brings back memories. While I can't guarantee "forever" for any OS, would you be interested in a video on some of the challenges and workarounds for using Windows 98 in a safe-ish way?

[@Kani8122]

@@adventuresinnostalgia Could be pretty interesting. Not gonna lie, my best Windows memories were with Windows 98. That OS was my childhood.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

@Kani8122 Haha, Windows 98 memories! I've all got them too. What was your favorite thing about it? Sometimes I miss the Dial-up sounds

[@Kani8122]

@@adventuresinnostalgia MS-DOS compatibility. As a kid I was disappointed that I couldn't play DOS games on XP so I kept using 98 for several more years.

[@ToastExists]

I might do this

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Sounds like a challenge! Let me know how it goes, Windows XP can be a fun throwback. What's your favorite part about using it?

[@iCrab]

Can you make a ISO of windows XP 64bit fully updated ?

[@anthonywalker6268]

Or, you could just you don't need to know the os after 10k.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

I have no idea what that means. please explain

[@ChinBrandon-n6u]

I love Windows XP too. But i worry that get virys .are you not worry about Windows Xp get Virus? Because that is end of support more 10 years .i just ask hope you don't misunderstand my meaning. Please give me a Like or reply comment to me if you agree. If don't, don't criticize and don't mad at me .thank you

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

I worry about viruses on all versions of Windows. The difference with XP is that I don't keep any sensitive data on the system. If I were to get a virus then it would just be time to reinstall windows XP :)

[@JozaManolic103]

I used XP for all of Janusry because my main pc exploded I used a version of fully up to date chrome to access the internet and had an anti-virus installed and it was fine, sluggish but fine. All modern sites worked

[@see-sharp]

That's the best way to guarantee you are gonna get hacked xD

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Chances are, if you are connected to the Internet with an XP system you are going to be doing something like updating a game, downloading a mod, pulling up a FAQ or video tutorial, etc. If you were to get a virus or something, you would likely reinstall Windows. What is the worst-case scenario if you were to use an XP system on the Internet?

[@charginginprogresss]

only way to get hacked is to install malware yourself, or to have some hacker hating on you specifically and targeting you either way, both of those will fugg your system even on windows 11 just be hardware and software literate bro

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That's an interesting perspective! While targeted attacks are less common, wouldn't general vulnerabilities in XP still make it more susceptible to attacks compared to a modern OS? For viewers who might be new to computers, could you elaborate a bit on what you mean by "hardware and software literacy" in this context?

[@Night-man123]

Safely? I’m not brave enough to use an old operating system

[@Kirk-7]

Then you should use Linux as even the latest windows os is not safe hence the numerous security updates.

[@crazysquirrel9425]

Safest way to use XP is to never connect it to another computer. Or internet.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Im sure you could safely have an old school "LAN Party" with Windows XP systems and be adequately safe. As long as there isn't a connection to the internet, if you get a virus that way... The call is coming from inside the house.

[@GoonCity777]

I’m just using a themed Debian linux

[@Treetrain1]

i feel like if someone would be willing to install xp nowadays they might as well just use linux

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

That's an interesting point! While XP may have its fans, Linux is a powerful option. Are there any specific features of Linux that make it your go-to these days?

[@redlionstudio2750]

@@adventuresinnostalgia well, there are a lot of options in here, a lot of distros for different tasks, but overall you get security updates, low hardware requirements and still a good software support I'm using NixOS btw :)

[@R_eal-G_rude]

​@adventuresinnostalgIt really is more flexible, and can add more features to it, open source even if millions of code. Almost no viruses, the main part.

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

@redlionstudio2750 Thanks for the detailed response! It's great to hear about alternatives for viewers who want the benefits of XP without the security risks. For those who might be new to Linux, could you elaborate a bit on which distro (like NixOS) might be a good option for someone familiar with Windows XP?

[@redlionstudio2750]

@@adventuresinnostalgia hmm, I think any distro that ships with LXQt, LXDE or Xfce, good example is fedora or Lubuntu There's also EndeavourOS and openSUSE But I recommend not using clean debian, it's terrible for desktop usage And ofc I don't recommend using NixOS for new users, even for some advanced linux users, it's kind of hard distro, but it's really rewarding when you understand it and nix.

[@aaz1992]

Make Windows 11 look just like XP. Problem solved

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Haha, that's a creative solution! While a Windows 11 XP skin might bring back the nostalgia, do you think there are any downsides to sticking with 11, like software compatibility and privacy?

[@Krispok0332sn]

It will still not look exactly like windows xp unfortunately

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

@@adventuresinnostalgia windows has better compatibility mode than MacOS which has none, so maybe

[@BNWilliamGaming]

Hello!

[@adventuresinnostalgia]

Hey! Glad you could make it. Windows XP forever, huh? What's your secret to keeping it running smoothly?