How to Select the Best Recurve Sight Pin for You | Recurve Archery sight pin pros and cons

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Jake Kaminski

Jake Kaminski

Күн бұрын

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@garyhiggins4315
@garyhiggins4315 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1950's, my Mum was East Midland Champion, using a recurve bow that my Dad made for her, with a sight that was a strip of carpet foam glued to the back of the bow with a dress making pin! How much things have changed!😊😊😊
@Lily-gr1ct
@Lily-gr1ct 4 жыл бұрын
I have a decut sight pin, a real cheap copy of a lens based sight, and the improvements in my shot are phenomenal. My entire sight cost less than some of those pins, so while I'm sure it won't last as long and the quality and clarity of the lens would probably not compare to a more expensive one, it's honestly the best upgrade I've done to my bow. I actually like the longer fibre, because once it's set, it gets me perfectly aligned because I know I only want to see one dot, not a line. If you're unsure about getting a new pin, for the sake of under £15 I'd personally highly recommend it.
@MartyInLa
@MartyInLa 11 ай бұрын
Wow, I had no idea there were so many sight options. Thank you!
@user-bo8yt4uc8b
@user-bo8yt4uc8b 4 жыл бұрын
I have used Beiter pin with all different inserts, Shibuya normal pin and fiber pin. Now I have shot with Shrewd recurve scope with only about 1,5mm black dot on the glass. I have found that the dot in the glass is most relaxed pin for me to shoot, and it works in all lighting conditions on normal WA targets. On field targets it doesn’t work at all.
@48JF
@48JF Жыл бұрын
Bravo 👍 I use Mantis x8, for reflection, and I noticed that what Jake tells here 6:49 . When I move left or right of my target, it also move up or down. So the impact points were more high left. Of course I still focus on pressure in the crip and my release.
@liorzisman2968
@liorzisman2968 4 жыл бұрын
Super useful video. Your experience makes those advices so valuable. No one can predict that window light scenarios - you just gotta go through it or hopefully hear about it from someone. thanks Jake.
@bobjimenez4464
@bobjimenez4464 4 жыл бұрын
that AAE with the horizontal post is so simple that it's excellent........they make awesome archery equipment 😇
@JakeKaminskiArchery
@JakeKaminskiArchery 4 жыл бұрын
That’s what designed, machined, packaged and shipped all from the USA costs. At least it won’t break like most of the bootleg stuff out there!
@bobjimenez4464
@bobjimenez4464 4 жыл бұрын
@@JakeKaminskiArchery agreed....100% American Quality. I'm a machinist, see me on linkedin if you want. : )
@esnevip
@esnevip Жыл бұрын
Having some great success with shooting a titan sight with the lens removed, just the aperture.
@sahhull
@sahhull 4 жыл бұрын
I use the Brady Ellison Shrewd Flex recurve scope.
@wilmaliles5932
@wilmaliles5932 2 жыл бұрын
I use bright green or red nail polish,works good and its cheap.
@anthonyleger6436
@anthonyleger6436 4 жыл бұрын
I found with the drilled lens type that have a stick of fiber, that the fiber was breaking while in my sight case. So I stopped using that combination. I used the Beiter for a little bit because of the square insert. All in all, wasn't a fan of fiber (gave it a go again when the Axcel rheostat version came out) because of how large/bright the "dot" was. I did try smaller fiber and just found it distracting. Since we aren't allowed bubble levels, the squareness of the aperture would alert me to any occasional canting of the bow. One of my favorite apertures was the Ambo Iris, until the rod snapped on me and neither the company I bought it from (Lancaster) nor the manufacturer would help me out with getting a new rod. The ability to easily adjust the size of the hole/circle from indoors to out and at a variety of distances without having to do more than rotate a little dial was great. But the failure of such a thin rod with the weight of the iris part keeps me from ever recommending it. That said, each time something new comes out, I end up giving it a try and ultimately go back to the Gas Pro aperture that I've been using with a small circle on the lens and a reducer ring. It works for me since I really don't like the post that holds a dot. I may give the horizontal post a try for giggles since in theory it could be used much like the Beiter square insert for any canting issues.
@robert43g
@robert43g 4 жыл бұрын
Your correct about Titan made in Oz
@lordcarnorjax8599
@lordcarnorjax8599 4 жыл бұрын
I was debating buying a AAE Gold sight pin to swap with the default sight pin on my W&W W600 sight which is vertical pin with a red dot on it. My previous and much cheaper Cartel sight had a plastic fibre rod which I liked unless it was out of alignment. I've noticed that like you spoke about, I tend to aim a bit low so maybe a horizontal pin like the AAE Gold might help with that. Nothing to loose with trying it out.
@lordcarnorjax8599
@lordcarnorjax8599 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the AAE Gold and I'm loving it nearly a year later. I played with the different coloured optics, initially using red but switched to green and have stuck with it. Works well and aiming off I don't tend to have a height problem either.
@sirtomcat
@sirtomcat 4 жыл бұрын
Currently I'm using an axcel RXF Sjef and I like it. It is not so bulky as the RX and still has rheostat. (However I didn't use the rheostat yet because I don't have place to shoot outdoors.)
@bobfromberlin
@bobfromberlin 4 жыл бұрын
I just switched to the 8mm Beiter, clear rim (the shop didn't have black and so I discovered the advantage of a clear one by accident). Using a yellow crosshair type insert right now (got all possible colors with me every time and might try some different options). Had the Titan Scope before that and it was an absolute nightmare outside once the sun was low enough to hit the lens enough... Sometimes I couldn't see anything anymore. Also the rim was quite distracting to me as I couldn't get it to line up enough with rings on the target while at the same time kind of blocking out parts of what I aimed at. Bought it cause I thought it's cool and hightech and whatever, but ended up realizing that simple is sometimes best unless you shoot Compound.
@justinvzu01
@justinvzu01 2 жыл бұрын
I overall really like blue pins. The problem with that is that you need a light kit to light it, which isn't allowed under world archery rules.
@pickin4you
@pickin4you 11 ай бұрын
I am trying to get back into compound indoor 300 shooting. I have had cataract surgery about 4 1/2 years ago. Not sure how I can see, I settled in on a recurve sight that has a Click adjustable aperture. This way I can adjust it to fit my 5 spot targets and only have to look through it and not have to worry about if I can see a pin or not. Later I have a scope that is basically the same. It haas a Clear lens of 3X, and a Blue lens that is a -4X, and the blue lens has a Hole in it. The blue blurs out the blue rings so all I will see is white and stare at that X ring. I just hope the recurve sight holds up with my low poundage compound. It should be fine. I have a fixture with my old Sure Loc sights that use a long tube plus a threaded screw through that tube.
@viktoriaespeterkamocsai3175
@viktoriaespeterkamocsai3175 3 жыл бұрын
As an compound archer, I use fiber optic in my scope sight. But sometimes(just indoor) it dosent lighting well, so I can see just a little black dot. It makes me stressful. Thats why nowadays Im shooting without fiber opticks indoor. I think it can be a big problem if the area is a quite dark or has a poor light.
@justinvzu01
@justinvzu01 2 жыл бұрын
For us compounders that's quite standard. The Axcel AV series scopes come with really efficient fiber optics, that work perfectly indoors. I'm waiting for AVX scopes to finally ship, to get a purple one to match my bow.
@frogsgottalent1106
@frogsgottalent1106 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@sannox01
@sannox01 4 жыл бұрын
Only been shooting 5 years or so and when I started, everyone had an opinion on what sight was best. I tried the Decut one, large ring, plastic lens with fibre optic and found that at 90m, the ring was larger than the whole boss and the fibre optic was useless, it was ok indoors but got rid of that as I needed a sight ring that worked both indoors and outdoors. Went to a standard ring with pin and found that indoors, the pin totally covered the gold and then some, and I found that distracting, so I cut the pin out, was a plastic one, so easy enough. The ring is a thin one and I can subconciously align the sight ring with the target face rings, however, aiming off in the wind at 90m is challenging, I do ok (1149 Fita) but I want to do better. Some have suggested a square pin, square outer, circle inner, some align the whole sight pin that with the target boss, I tried but if the boss it not perfectly upright, you're canting the bow, so I gave up on that one. I have, today, switched to the sight pin that came with my Shibuya 2 and practicing with that to get used to a pin by cutting out the gold on a fita 18 face, it takes time to find what works for you I guess but worth taking the time in the end. Great vid Jake.
@johnp1839
@johnp1839 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a recommendation on a hunting sight for a recurve bow?
@zulamer2435
@zulamer2435 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered an Avalon tec one recurve scope, a knockoff version of axcel recurve scope, but it does not have rheostat on it. I'm looking forward to test it on field
@JakeKaminskiArchery
@JakeKaminskiArchery 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes.
@roydoorenspleet1548
@roydoorenspleet1548 4 жыл бұрын
You'll like it Zul - at maybe only twice the price of a decent string it it did not disappoint here ^^ Dot of the fiber for me is just right - was afraid at first it would maybe be too small at .019 but it is just fine.
@zulamer2435
@zulamer2435 4 жыл бұрын
Roy Doorenspleet Glad to hear that! One question though, i read somewhere on archery talk claiming that the fibre can be loose when too much vibration on it. How true is that claim?
@roydoorenspleet1548
@roydoorenspleet1548 4 жыл бұрын
@@zulamer2435 Anything on a bow can come loose ^^ Sight fiber has not here so far. If it does that is easily fixed.
@zulamer2435
@zulamer2435 4 жыл бұрын
@@roydoorenspleet1548 just received mine today, didn't test it out yet. A question though, how do we insert the square or o ring inside the scope?
@Skadi2595
@Skadi2595 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do one on Tabs?
@JakeKaminskiArchery
@JakeKaminskiArchery 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@tommycclai
@tommycclai 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jake, what pin you'll prefer for rainy days?
@ferret1252
@ferret1252 4 жыл бұрын
What are your opinion on iris sights, I shoot one, at difrent distances, I change the size of the hole to just focus on the yellow
@JakeKaminskiArchery
@JakeKaminskiArchery 4 жыл бұрын
They are okay, but without a pin, I have the issue with aiming off accurately.
@ferret1252
@ferret1252 4 жыл бұрын
@@JakeKaminskiArchery I frankenstined the lense so it is a horizontal pin, but, still has the the problems of a lense
@shottonfb
@shottonfb Жыл бұрын
Novice do you need a peep sight for these aiming pins to work please
@emptycl0ud9
@emptycl0ud9 2 жыл бұрын
Worse with the titan scope's lens is that I noticed the glass is concave or convex depending on which side you use and they are not perfect. They have a haze/mirage effect. Another problem is the scope body or the inner grove where the lens is placed is not perfectly machined and tilts a little to the right. Looking at the scope/lense it skews the target picture to the right. Soo my sight windage needs to be screwed in the farther in the farther distance I shoot to compensate for it. Never going back to using lens scopes again.
@JakeKaminskiArchery
@JakeKaminskiArchery 2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen and "leveled" your sight like the way I describe in this video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5bKaZaXobeIoZo I think the lens in the Titan is less than ideal for sure, but this if you haven't leveled your sight like this, you can still have that issue with any sight.
@MrIanfurniss
@MrIanfurniss 4 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on the horizontal pin for the same reason. It's strange as I've been an FPS gamer since the Quake days and always used a red dot. Shooting rifles, an upright pin no problem. Archery, and for some reason, I aim low with a vertical pin. The only thing I've come up with that seems to make sense to me is that on the Axcel sight where I experienced the problem, the sight pin is quite thick and subconsciously perhaps I was keeping it low in order to not block out my view of the 10 ring. That's just a guess, but nothing else makes sense to me when shooting iron sights on a rifle doesn't make me aim low.
@JakeKaminskiArchery
@JakeKaminskiArchery 4 жыл бұрын
Agree on all accounts. It’s funny how things are different for different things.
@jens-kristiantofthansen9376
@jens-kristiantofthansen9376 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, is the Axcel Curve Fita tournament compliant? I mean, I'd assume so from your inclusion here, but just wanted to make sure. Having said that, it'll be a little while before I'm ready to spend that amount of cash on one. :)
@karmagaming5402
@karmagaming5402 Жыл бұрын
Hello axcel rxf has lens in it
@msaedmsaeed4127
@msaedmsaeed4127 3 жыл бұрын
is these sights working with samick sage bows ??
@sabanayagamjayabalan6684
@sabanayagamjayabalan6684 2 жыл бұрын
Does AAE Sight pin will fit into Axcel XP Sight?
@tttarchery
@tttarchery 11 ай бұрын
Great info
@jg9020
@jg9020 4 жыл бұрын
When is the bareshaft tuning video coming out?
@JakeKaminskiArchery
@JakeKaminskiArchery 4 жыл бұрын
Potentially tomorrow if not, Saturday.
@tytraulich4987
@tytraulich4987 3 жыл бұрын
Hunting?
@bhargabchakraborty6483
@bhargabchakraborty6483 4 жыл бұрын
won't you use a contrasting color for the pin to aim on the yellow inner circle
@JakeKaminskiArchery
@JakeKaminskiArchery 4 жыл бұрын
I liked yellow, I could still see it but barely.
@ferret1252
@ferret1252 4 жыл бұрын
He did it so it wasnt so bright it aas distracting
@garymickus6412
@garymickus6412 4 жыл бұрын
Crosshairs?
@JakeKaminskiArchery
@JakeKaminskiArchery 4 жыл бұрын
Not a fan, too distracting and too much going on imho
@garymickus6412
@garymickus6412 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t use them myself. Prefer an up pin in a circle but I’m intrigued about your side pin explanation.
@BlasterKotakatik
@BlasterKotakatik 4 жыл бұрын
What about different sized fiber optic? Do you prefer a larger or a smaller fiberoptic?
@JakeKaminskiArchery
@JakeKaminskiArchery 4 жыл бұрын
.019 is perfect for me. And larger and it’s distracting and smaller, I can’t see it.
@mikeyb6737
@mikeyb6737 4 жыл бұрын
awesome
@henrikmikkelsen6472
@henrikmikkelsen6472 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@alanmurray3624
@alanmurray3624 2 ай бұрын
Who shoots with a pin???
@archerry6457
@archerry6457 3 жыл бұрын
8 longbowers saw the title and hit dislike out of principle.
@antonioiennaco4071
@antonioiennaco4071 4 жыл бұрын
Non capisco niente
@alanyaesu2189
@alanyaesu2189 2 ай бұрын
very good vid "BUT" this chap talks to much !
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