How to Set and Plumb(Level) Fence Posts | Wood Fence

[@SlicksterMagazine]

Gotta love the "coach" mentality of this guy. He's done a lot of training in military, LEO, or maybe Fire. Good work!

[@WillReadman]

Low Earth Orbit? I feel like he could've procured solid team building experience outside of such an extreme source.

[@ElectricPulse100]

Thanks for your insight and knowledge. Built my first fence today and it was a lot more complex than I thought.

[@samuelmuldoon4839]

Thank you for your video. Your approach is much faster than mine. My strategy, a few days ago, was to: (Step 1 put a few wood screws into the side of the fence post), (Step 2 fill some five gallon plastic buckets with rocks or sand until the bucket was roughly half way full of rocks and roughly half full of air). (Step 3 Put a second bucket of rocks on top of the half full bucket of rocks -- double stack the buckets of rocks) (Step 4 tie the post, loosely, to the buckets of rocks with ratcheting tie down straps) (Step 5 use a bubble level) (Step 6 adjust tie down straps and tighten the tie-down straps until the bubble level showed that the fence post was plumb or trued-up). That took more than 45 minutes for one post. Your strategy is faster. Hold the post still when the bubble level shows correct positioning and pour in dry concrete. Pack, and tamp down, the dry concrete until there are no air pockets. The post does not move at that point. After that, use municipal water piped through a garden hose to moisten the concrete and/or use rain water to moisten the concrete.

[@iapprove8392]

Nice clean jeans to be working.

[@emissary_kyle]

Clean work.

[@atascosalawncompany2875]

The Crete guy literally poured all that concrete on one side as the level guy said “his job is not to pour on one side but all the way around” lol

[@charliesmith9528]

His helper clearly diddt want to be there,,fastest way to get kids to go to school and actually learn is to INTRODUCE them to hard labor jobs,,my first exp was working hanging tobacco in a very hot sc barn one summer in 1970,,pay was 5 dollars a DAY,,,

[@atascosalawncompany2875]

@@abaddonguecubu6588 im guessing you've never seen an old post dug up that had most of the concrete on one side huh?

[@Wasabikick]

And your grandpa was probably turning in his grave with how much money you were making for such an easy job.. He prob had to break 4x4s with his hands for 5 cents a day.

[@grimdavis58]

​@@charliesmith9528 ok boomer

[@bombayoli]

@@charliesmith9528in a time when an acre of land was less than 5k but yea i hear ya

[@AndrewE3]

I’ve poured fast setting concrete into the post hole before setting posts… can I do the same with normal quickrete? The regular 60lb yellow bags?

[@claytona7333]

Hello, we are preparing to build a fence, do you need to add water to the concrete after you pour it in the hole?

[@mrfenceacademy]

No we do not add any water the ground moisture will set it up

[@trevor.o6047]

Thank you i am currently at work getting pissed off trying to pick it up and level it 🤣 appreciate it

[@jerryschultz3294]

Spacing is easy . Pour corners by mixing fast setting cement and the take a tape and measure and then divide bye how many panels you want and mark

[@adaptivo3692]

Sir I repaired a fence recently and had to use general experience and common sense as I lack your knowledge. The posts felt pretty solid so I think I had some luck. I used wet concrete as well as makiwara style stabilising slats and I wonder if you have any experience of this? I had a Makiwara board many years ago and it seemed to me to offer good resistance against flexion.

[@cm7884]

is it ok to cut the posts after cementing them in? and setting the fincing?

[@1spore2]

Yes! why not?

[@Good_Things_To_Know]

Hi @Mr Fence Academy, how do I make the convex design on a fence? 8 feet panels.

[@CaKiteboarding]

what do you do next? just add water to the crete? thanks

[@mrfenceacademy]

No

[@JamBone30]

Are you setting the post at 24 inches or 30 inches. I seen on another ones of your videos you guys do a 7 inch reveal with the pickets. So I'm assuming you're setting at 24 and cutting the 4x4s at 65 inches sense you run your 2x4s at the top of the 4x4. Sorry if this is a strange question, I'm new to installing fence.

[@mrfenceacademy]

ASTM Standard is 30” in the ground all of our post are 30” deep. 66” out of the ground

[@Heritagepostfarms]

Hello sir great video. What spacing do you use? I see people say 8ft and some say 12ft

[@mrfenceacademy]

I have never heard of 12’ we use a max of 8’

[@oscarsantiago6308]

@@mrfenceacademy between 90”or 96” right?

[@allenh7835]

My only was "Okay, BUT what about the height being correct ?" Your very next video is post height. 👍😁 THANK YOU ! Great tips on how to do it RIGHT ! (edit my only quesion)

[@likalaberge1552]

Alright, old school fence builder here - we could backline 2 3/8" line posts at airport or military base (2 miles long) no string one torpedo level faster than a 3 man crew git the mud in the hole OKlahoma Texas heck anywhere, over😁

[@mrfenceacademy]

right on

[@samuelmuldoon4839]

If the metal part of a spirit level (bubble-level) had some small holes (e.g. 1/8 inch diameter) drilled through the metal part, then you could use an electric drill to temporarily attached the spirit level to the side of the fence post. Then you would have both hands free to do things, because the level would not fall down.

[@mleighton203]

Quick grip clamps work great

[@PRLcafe]

Your son doing good job. Focused

[@bobbywilson7510]

Can you use 5/4x6x8 decking boards in place of 2x4x8 for building wooden fence?

[@mrfenceacademy]

I have never tried

[@gulashonu]

Heck yeah you could. I'd imagine it would be quite sturdy in both axes with three rails. Crown up!

[@4himsanctified]

Is it just me, or do those holes/post look shallow?

[@christophercameron1517]

so you don't add any braces to the side of the post to hold it level while the concrete dries?

[@mrfenceacademy]

No the post is so solid instantly you could hang a gate off of it right then

[@mrfenceacademy]

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[@YeahNahMaybe947]

@@mrfenceacademy bahbahah

[@StealthTRD]

Tamp it and it will be goid

[@nbriand637]

@@mrfenceacademy is that fast setting concrete?

[@fartbox86]

Can you please explain the way u put the concrete in? I always mix then pour in.

[@mrfenceacademy]

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[@ThePriceIsRising]

@1:59.....Id have his head on a platter if he tripped and broke that line😂

[@Lee-lb9qh]

Nobody cares boomer 😂

[@emaries81]

not sure how much those bags weigh but the dirt out of the hole looked like 2 feet but fitting two bags concrete with room looked like 36.

[@ujayet]

Here i am mixing concrete in a bucket then pouring it in... am i doing it wrong?..

[@mrfenceacademy]

Yep

[@josephrasmussen8832]

@@mrfenceacademy ?

[@josephrasmussen8832]

No not at all

[@salvadorw.empent2778]

You're on the right track but instead of using one line used two lines one at the bottom and one at the top (obviously your first & last post are set up.. I'm going out to get a laser pointer to set the high of the posts strings sag to much over large distances!

[@marilynblevins5371]

Should I paint or tar the bottom of the post before setting in the ground, live in Florida?

[@mrbelvedere1632]

So is the general consensus from the comments that he's doing this wrong?

[@MP-ef6mc]

1:26 I’ve told my wife this before but she never agrees with me. 🤣

[@StealthTRD]

Get a corner post level and it will free your hands up to level an tamp

[@mrfenceacademy]

Lol

[@josephrasmussen8832]

@@mrfenceacademy ?

[@charliesmith9528]

I have been installing 3 BOARD WOOD FENCE around my 4 acres to keep pit bulls out of yard,,,First 100 ft run i laid out came out great and straight,,next run is 225 ft,,i have posts set 8 ft apart,,80% of it looks great but there is 2 sections in middle that clearly bulge out when looking at fence from a angle,,i ran string and used care i THOUGHT when installing post and attaching wire and 1/6 boards but the areas that arent inline SCREW up looks of entire project,,whats the secret to keeping it all straight on long runs,,im working alone which is part of problem,,when i get tired i should quit for the day but i dont,,,im 67 and have back issues but am SICK of finding dead pets killed by neighbors dogs,,,

[@eoregon1985]

Dry setting a fence with concrete is the worst rip off to a customer! Mixing the concrete before setting it in the hole is the best way to bond the concrete. How deep are those post set?

[@mrfenceacademy]

Simply just not true, how do I know this we have tested it and proven it so many times. Check out our you tube page or Facebook page or Tik Tok page. We setting does not increase lateral compression against the earth and post like a bolt and nut. Only thing wet concrete does it get hard which is not a failure just has zero compressive pressure or as engineers would call it passive resistance against the earth and post. This is extremely important in those climates with huge temperature swings and frost heave. Keep on wet setting if you want to but don’t offer your untested opinion without some articulable facts or test or even reason for Pete’s sake

[@dasker209w5]

Tell your homie to lift up the bag and fully get around the whole not from just one side

[@mrfenceacademy]

This is very true

[@GanglandDiaries]

Worst, fill the hole with concrete then embed it inside. Don’t use bags and add water that’s rookie special. Mix the shit or get a concrete truck. Fill holes with Crete n then slam the post in.. efficiency and perfection at its finest with this method. Time is money

[@rw2452]

Judging by the way your helper gets right to work in pouring those bags and immediately tamping, I can tell you run a productive no nonsense operation. Two thumbs-up 👍👍

[@matthews852]

He smoked meth 5 mins before vid

[@Christopher2211-t5o]

Maybe it’s his son

[@Jude13able]

There has got to be an easier way to put a fence post in besides concrete.

[@mrfenceacademy]

Yes you could drive them

[@Jude13able]

@@mrfenceacademy yeah that sounds much better.

[@ed370zx3]

Silka fence post foam found at Home Depot.

[@spidermangaming8769]

Sir yes sir

[@garymontesano5903]

You're tamping with the wrong end.

[@mrfenceacademy]

Are you serious lol You don’t know what you don’t know until you learn what you didn’t know.

[@mrfenceacademy]

And now you know

[@garymontesano5903]

@@mrfenceacademy What I've learned from your input is that terminology is fluid, and can be the cause for misunderstanding. Knowing that a bar has a tamping end and a chisel end, 50 years of experience that has taught me which end to use when. Best of luck with your projects in the New Year.

[@mrfenceacademy]

@@garymontesano5903 You Need to use the chisel end to get maximum compaction, I learned this in 2005 while coaching in Australia, I watch and old man fencer do it in front of me and his post was sturdier than mine so that combined with learning more about why they do not use concrete instead a substance called blue angle dust which is just a by product from the quarry they can compact. It’s not a language or terminology issue, it’s really you just don’t know what you don’t know, until you know what you didn’t know. When you study fence and the art of setting post like I have, you learn the correct terminology. I have had several engineers confirm what I am teaching is accurate, even though it is not what granddad taught us when he showed us how to build fence. My mission is to continue educating and challenging the old schools “hardhead” experts in our industry. All it would take is for you to test it once or twice yourself, instead of telling me I am doing it wrong. Just think of what you can learn if you were to test and retest what you see. I challenge anyone to prove otherwise, no one has even come close to disapproving we should not be using the chisel end. Facts are facts and the reason we use concrete is to gain a greater compaction than the soil around the post, making the weakest link the virgin ground. If you tamp with the tamping end you are just forcing the material down and there is nothing pushing back against the top of the “concrete” material beside air or 2” tamping bar end so it fluffs up and around the tamping bar. You can some compaction but not nearly what you would if you flip the bar over. When you use the flat chisel end you have a contestant pressure push back from the post and earth. As you drive that bar in over and over you will see the compaction drastically increase. It’s like locking the post in the ground with a bolt and nut. Then the concrete will harden like that in the compressed state. This cannot be achieved with wet setting or using the tamping end of the rock bar. There is your lesson for the day you have a great one sir. You just happens to challenge the biggest fence geek on the planet I have to make sure you had all the facts. Your choice from here continue tamping with the tamping end of the bar design by someone who has not studied fence. But at least now you know better. Make sure to like and subscribe and hit the notification button lots on content for you to challenge could be fun. By the way the engineering terminology we are talking about is creating a greater passive resistance between the post and earth. Take care of your team plus one.

[@willgreer4321]

I’m Australian, it sounds like they were using crusher dust to seat the posts, thats interesting. Was it a blue colour? We fall it a blue colour. We call it blue metal where I’m from.

[@Joy-rl6tx]

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[@robdawn1221]

Mix the Concrete with water. Don’t dry pour it’s lazy. Also it’s called Plum not level

[@ajphillips5800]

he is stabbing not tamping lol

[@darrellhuxley2157]

Don’t they have a post level… well I mean I know they do

[@jerryschultz3294]

I’ve been fence in the south and if my guys don’t get wheel barrow and mix cement and I guess do it yourself as a home owner. I fix fences all the time people doing fence like that. Also cement will not cure good and not at all to aluminum. Come tear out one of mine and one of his. That is not correct. Some ideas he has are ok for residential but won’t work at all on a spect job. In the 40 years of putting up fence and rails I have never seen a plan that says pour it that way

[@blackskull8440]

In the Uk building simple fences like this people will just use postcrete,, it’s a bag of cement, aggregate,sand rock mix... so one 20kg bag does one post 4x4 2.4 meter post down 2ft.. but done right I’ve had a fencing up for years, still solid

[@justmyself1000]

People actually still use wood posts? Why? Use metal posts.....

[@11ccom]

Lefts soggy dream.

[@Masticas.]

This guy sucks he didn’t explain nothing

[@ethanjordan5686]

Fence academy dosent use a corner level and uses concrete, not a half but two bags lol bum

[@mrfenceacademy]

Corner level hahahaha are you serious well we all have to start somewhere and some start with a corner level they got for Xmas.

[@michaelfrank6696]

First of all you don't bury post in concrete they will just rot and break off you are clueless

[@mrfenceacademy]

Wow really, that is so different from what we find to be true. We just recently pulled up a wood fence we built in 1993 all the post set in concrete the same way we do now. It’s crazy they were not rotten in the concrete. They did show signs of decay out of the concrete just about ground level. So weird huh, it must have been a fluke like all the other ones we have pulled. We will keep on fencing and testing these methods until we can find one that makes your theory correct. Don’t worry we won’t give it “first of all”

[@michaelfrank6696]

@@mrfenceacademy you should break the concrete off the 4x4 and see what it looks like bet you don't want to

[@mrfenceacademy]

@@michaelfrank6696 bro seriously your cute, I am speechless. Do you even build fence for a living or just an expert?

[@michaelfrank6696]

@@mrfenceacademy actually no I build aluminum boats for the government coast guard navy homeland security

[@mrfenceacademy]

@@michaelfrank6696 I see well I have only been building fences for the past 33 years coast road coast and abroad. I know nothing about building boats and cannot give you any advice there but I am probably the biggest fence geek on the planet. Don’t believe everything you read or see on google. I can assure you we have not found concrete in contact with a 4x4 treated post rated for ground contact to be a problem.

[@vinkobosnyak4463]

Wrong, post will rot from the bottom end up as it is touching the earth. Place a paver, brick, or pour mixed concrete a couple inches in height in the center of the hole first. Then settle the post on top of that. Too many times I have seen Cowboys drop the post into the hole, then pour water into it, then the cement powder, and just tamp around with a stick to mix. Money gone, cowboy gone, job...........crap!

[@mrfenceacademy]

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[@johncarnettie6804]

Falls over in 6 years

[@kylew066]

😂

[@Tom-vd3yj]

Way to much crete

[@carl3941]

2 bags is fine. it's the dry mixing that's of concern

[@cloutgangster]

Small turtle 🐢 energy

[@zoggrog8823]

You dry set fence posts without mixing. Simply wrong.