How To Setup Mikado Vbar

[@n411xbushpilot]

Jeff I can’t thank you enough for the very complete build and programing info on the TB60 this is number 2 the first one had a gear problem. I purchased the VBAR Touch and the programing is just Fantastic.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@n411xbushpilot you’re welcome! I’m glad these videos are helping! Yes! Vcontorl is amazing and setup is a breeze!

[@33forsaken]

I started a series on this and was not able to finish. you did a great job my friend !!!! keep up the good work

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I remember watching those videos! You did a great job as well, thank you!

[@33forsaken]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 thanks buddy, I will finish and or restart mine once I can get my hands on another V controller and Neo.

[@6489532ab]

Great advice...keep up the good work.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@6489532ab Thank you for watching! I greatly appreciate it!

[@mikefuchs2814]

Great video, thanks. Nice to see the setup on different FBL controllers.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

More to come too! I’m trying to have a wide variety of FBL setups for everyone!

[@craigbrett672]

Sweet! Thanks Jeff, amazing content as always

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

You’re welcome! Thank you for watching, greatly appreciate it.

[@Twx97]

Man i love vbar. It's just soo simple and smooth. Only downside is cost tbh

[@polstery]

And there not in stock

[@Twx97]

@@polstery u can find them but not everywhere

[@polstery]

Nope nowhere, even in Germany

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

And the simplicity and straightforward set up right from the transmitter is awesome! But yes, they are a little bit pricey. I also wish they would come out with a small satellite to plug into different helicopters like the S1-S2.

[@ramialkishawi3530]

Great as always. I was thinking of vbar and still my dream but the price. I went with ix14

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

My IX14 is still my favorite radio. I really love the bar set up the simplicity the telemetry is amazing! But for the money. I think the IX14 with an iKon 2 FBL unit is the best bang for your buck.

[@stevealoia]

Dam looks so easy to setup . I just got the futaba 16IZ . I should of held off and went with the V. But I’m happy with the 16IZ great video

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! Yes, it’s super easy and very intuitive. Best I’ve ever setup it messed with.

[@Adean6403]

excellent video! I was going to do this but no need after seeing this!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I’ve learned a lot more on Vbar since recording this so I’m going to make anther video with more advanced features.

[@mycopter]

What does it look like with multi-blade rotor heads? It would be great if you could make a video for that! 🔥

[@roberthardy7868]

Been waiting for this video too! I assume that the Evo setup would be very similar to the Neo? I hope to see a review from you on the new Sab Raw 500. I like the looks and simplicity of the new mechanical design. I understand that Sab has already tested this on their Raw 700. I really enjoy your explanations because it makes things so much simpler to understand making this hobby more enjoyable. My best to you my friend! 🧙‍♂👍

[@Twx97]

The setup is exactly the same. Nothing different

[@roberthardy7868]

@@Twx97 Thanks. Glad to hear that.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Yes! The Vcontrol, Evo, and touch are identical setup. The first part of the raw 500 build series will be out Monday. Just waiting on some servo horns to finish the first part. So far the build is super easy and straight forward! It is a very simplistic design that was thought out extremely well!

[@roberthardy7868]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yea! I hope Sab will designed their larger birds the same way. I definitely believe in the "KISS" approach. Less parts and simpler design sounds like a much better approach to me.

[@briansutter8612]

Been waiting on this vid. Now in my favs. Thx Jeff

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

You’re welcome! I hope the video was helpful and worth waiting for.

[@Walking_on_Chips]

Thanks for this Jeff! Just ordered one of these as Im sending back my ix14. Gimbles are extremely stiff and no way to loosen them enough for my taste, especially for helis. Currently the VCt is the same price as the ix14, although you have to buy a neo vbar with it for $1150. Question about this setup, being you had to lower the pitch so much on initial setup, wouldnt it have been better to look at moving the balls in 1 hole on the servos to try and keep the numbers closer too 100 for better servo/fbl resolution?

[@turionb1408]

this will help me very much. thanks man!

[@rcflyeryou]

I had commented earlier after first watching your video. It is an excellent video, and easy to understand. I do have one question regarding the control throw values. As far as I know, Mikado has always maintained that the values ideally should be between 80 and 100. It would seem to me that moving your servo arm balls in one hole, you could increase the collective/cyclic and tail throw values to higher values to get your desired pitch values which would allow for greater resolution on your servos. Does your heli fly good with the settings in your video? I looked at the manual, and you have the balls placed where they show in the manual, but that makes your output numbers lower than what I think Mikado recommends.

[@daniel_933]

Thanks Jeff you are the best 🎉

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you! I greatly appreciate that!

[@james22507]

Coming from a Spektrum radio so forgive the stupid questions! On basic flight setup on spektrum I would just use the throttle curve and pitch curve settings to setup my helicopter to be beginner friendly. How is this done on the Vbar Touch?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Same way! You can go into special curve function and adjust your curves and multiple different points to how you like. Personally, I run a linear pitch curve and set RPM throttle curves on every helicopter. I think that is something that everybody should do as it is a better long run curve, but I do understand wanting to have less and or more pitch either direction. But for a beginner set up, I would say just run less pitch but still keep that equal linear curve.

[@james22507]

Thanks Jeff….. setup comparison for beginner showing both spektrum and vbar side by side would be awesome 😎

[@PZT-q2w]

would you recommend 13t or 14t for a sab fireball base with a competition motor, for some reason my kit came with the upgraded motor. also what do you think about vbar vs hobbywing gov, im assumign teh vbar gov would give better fine tuning? which would you prefer?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@PZT-q2w 13 or 14t motor pinion? It’s a DD motor so no pinion. Vbar gov works great and so does a Hobbywing. I use both but Mainly Vbar gov. Better find tuning and head speed control

[@very9000]

HELLO. WE WOULD LIKE THE HELICOPTER TO RISE VERY SLOWLY WHEN THE COLLECTIVE PITCH CONTROL STICK IS MOVED. PLEASE TELL US THIS CAN BE ADJUSTED IN V-BAR CONTROL? DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE EXPONENT (EXP) TO DO THIS? IS IT CORRECT? IF SO, WHERE IS THIS SECTION IN V-BAR CONTROL?

[@allenpatterson3504]

Great job

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you!

[@danielsalais808]

Hey bud for vbar electric governor the esc what mode should be set?? Stogov?? Or linear or fixed wing??

[@endyX286]

hi sir,is there any difference flight performance between ikon 2 and vbar neo?im planning upgrade to vbar with 3rd party radio(with futaba).sorry about my english.i hope you can understand.

[@TheLufur]

How do I select Frequency and Center Pulse for Swashplate Servos?

[@Garthinyus]

I have a YGE ESC/BEC/TELEMETRY unit, should I update it using the usb YGE unit I purchased first before setup? Also I have the Torq box for setting the servos, so I should adjust those first? Updates for the Evo radio and receiver are needed first also or is it not necessary because they are new? Sorry for the newbie questions. I've watched alot of your videos which have all been awesome. I know that you have shown some of these things already, I'm guessing that updates and servo settings should be done before vbar setup... Thanks for any help you can give!

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Yes, I would update/set your BEC voltage with your YGE USB. I’m not sure about YGE (only one I have is in my Comet) but I know with Hobbywing there is a Vbar update software that allows programming and adjustments for the ESC though the Vcontroller. Yes! I would highly recommend center your servos with the Tbox that way you don’t have to do any servo centering through the Vbar. I would if done it that way if I was using Torq (or any servo that uses a program box.) you don’t have to update the radio first but I would just so it’s done and you don’t have to worry about it later. Thank you! I’m glad the channel is helpful and you can learn! Ask all the questions you need as that’s part of learning!

[@Garthinyus]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Wow thanks for such a quick and comprehensive reply. I wasn't expecting a response today 😳. Get some sleep my friend! You are awesome!

[@michaelmoore4378]

Ok brother how do you like it compare to the Icon2. Do you need the Mikado radio to work with the Vbar gyro. I’ve been using Icon2 which I like it but I hate using the PC to set it up. I like the fact you can use the radio to set up.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

I really like the all in one setup. I like the telemetry! I love my iKon/IX14 setup. Unfortunately you have to use Vcontrol on Vbar.

[@Lance57H]

Where do you plug in the p port from the ESC into the Vbar?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Watch the Vbar Telemetry video. You need the Hobbywing cable and it goes into the side of the Vbar in the tele port.

[@Lance57H]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 perfect I just wasn't seeing it.

[@JJ20371]

Tail set up in setup menu.. servo 90degree,tail blades 3a4degree...butt in the tail menu you have pre comp...is it than not better to have 0 degree on the tail blades instead off 3a4 degree?? When you are out off setup menu then automatic using 22%off pre comp tail so thats normal 3a4 degree... correct me if iam wrong

[@roberthardy7868]

Hello Jeff, When I did my cyclic calibration and set it to 8°, after existing C.C. my swash is no longer level at mid stick. Is this normal after doing C.C.?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Hello! Hmm! That’s weird. So after you leveled the swash and did the 8 degree and clicked out the swash is No longer level?

[@roberthardy7868]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yes that's correct the swash is no longer level and I don't understand it. I am thinking about erasing all my settings and starting over from scratch.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@roberthardy7868 I would recommend doing that. Make sure when your trim your servos (something I learned after making this video) push and hold on the servo trim and it will allow you to trim each servo independently.

[@roberthardy7868]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Hello Steve, Problem solved. I posted on HF forum and a couple of guys had the exact same problem. All they did was reflash their esc and viola everything worked perfectly. I did the same thing and now I am a happy camper. My esc is now highlighted in my menu. Thought I would pass along this information for future reference. Thanks for all your patience and help. It is greatly appreciated.

[@very9000]

Hello Friend. Can I consult with you on the V-BAR NEO settings?

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Hello! Yes you can

[@very9000]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Friend, please tell me. I have now assembled LOGO 800 with V-Bar Neo. If my helicopter 🚁 flies like a copy, then I’ll put the fuselage on the helicopter, the tail blades will be set to long 150 mm, can you tell me approximately what settings to set in the V-Bar Control transmitter? Which TAIL GAIN should I use, etc.?

[@mdu6]

You are not using SUB TRIM correctly. The first level of the menu allows you to modify the ‘combined’ fonctions - meaning elevator, aileron - moves the necessary servos as a group. To zero out the individual servo (thru Sub-trim) you need to click on the blue tabs - this will give you access to individual servo movements.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Yes, I learned that after this video. You are right!

[@mathiaschillisplash8997]

Are u going to have part 2? But Nice video😁

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Thank you, what would you like to see in part 2?

[@mathiaschillisplash8997]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 i just wonder if you missed anything, if you did, maybe you can make a part 2 if you want😁 i want to buy a v bar in the future:)

[@HeliShed]

Rationale for not going Evo Jeff? A lot of speculation either way for it apart from the cost etc.

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

So I preordered a EVO. After waiting months and hearing the issues I canceled the pre-order, I got a incredible deal on a pretty much brand new NEO and too it. Later found out the EVO issue with with the FBL (witch is fixed now) but I’m happy with the NEO so I kept it.

[@HeliShed]

yep - that's been pretty much what I've been hearing too - sticking with the EVO. Long story short, I've seen first hand how the power draw has caused serious issues causing pile ins. @@westhobbiesrc8051

[@danielsalais808]

Hey bud is there a big difference between the Evo and the regular touch?? I’m about to sell all my ikons and switch to vbar !😅but I just want to have telemetry like rpm and voltage and the Evo is like 1300 and the regular touch will be like 1150 $ and will come with the vbar neo too! What way should I go??

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

Hello! You won’t go back to anything else after flying and setting up Vbar. No, the new Vcontorl EVO has a few newer things and faster processors compared to the Touch but it’s nothing I even noticed, I’ve flown and set up both. Now, the Vbar EVO has more options and better tail performance but! You can use the Vbar EVO FBL with a Vcontorl Touch Radio.

[@danielsalais808]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 great!!! I don’t even fly 3D just sport mode at the most😂but the vbar has self leveling mode too? 😅

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@danielsalais808 yes, you can get the Pro/rescue software and have auto level (beginner as they call it) I just get the Pro software so I have everything but Auto level and rescue. There is two software options that you can purchase. Pro and Pro/rescue.

[@danielsalais808]

@@westhobbiesrc8051 thank you very much for the guide bud !! 👍🏻love your videos as well!! 🙂

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

@@danielsalais808 I’ve got a video on the Auto level/Rescue and a video on getting telemetry and I’m going to post a video on the governor setup very soon.

[@kronchyrodriguez]

What transmitter are you using

[@turionb1408]

vbar control touch

[@AnujKumar-ed1pb]

What is this helicopter price

[@stevealoia]

Man I should of just went for the extra $450 and got the VBar . Instead of my futaba 16iz . I know your not a fan of futaba . VBar looks so easy to setup .

[@jasonwong93]

I’m on the fence as well. Did you end up getting a Vcontrol?

[@enzomalaysia]

Interesting…1520 for tail

[@westhobbiesrc8051]

The Align servos are 1520 all the way around.