HOW TO: Setup Stabilizers With MFJJ

[@TimConnor13]

MFJJ actually blew my mind a little when we went through this balancing process.. would HIGHLY recommend! - TC

[@andrewmiller7095]

#TDD

[@25kepy]

Is there any advice on setting the up or downward angle of the back bar?

[@jonathan_guerrero]

​@@25kepy I saw a video about a pro Archer that lifted the rear bar upward to reduce wait and it worked for her. I tried it for myself and I was able to remove 2 ounces and the bow ended up balancing just as well. I know you posted this a year ago lol but I hope you still find it useful

[@OldirtyTACO]

I have been in a stabilizer rabbit hole for the last five days... this video is exactly what i needed to help push me in the right direction! Thanks once again boys, for listening and knowing your audience.

[@MrBanolicious]

It’s amazing how much thought is put into your set ups. Never thought about these things.

[@HuntsT]

Great info guys. Bubble direction at the end was backwards but that’s just because bubble direction is confusing. Move your Stab in the direction of the bubble…is the easiest way to think about it.

[@kswolf77]

I love this method of setting up stabs. Wish there was more information on the podium stabilizers. I want to upgrade my setup soon and these are in my list of options. MFJJ needs to do a rundown on them soon.

[@kswolf77]

Following up…. I bit the bullet and bought the podium stabs (15” and 8”). NOT disappointed. Super light, great quality. I bought some colored weights cause… ya know, I gotta keep it coordinated. Still would love to see more info either on the website or on a video, but I’m a fan.

[@richarddean3154]

Excellent video. This is a unique (to me) method - balancing based on bow movement after the shot. I adjusted my stabilizers based on pin movement while aiming - pin dropping out of the bull = more back weight. Thank you again for great content.

[@ElkShape]

Word!

[@treestandtherapy]

Awesome video and advice from MFJJ. Always love hearing his bow and shooting advice!

[@dannyb7847]

I really needed to see this. Self coaching is way better when you have MFJJ to explain how to!! Thank you guys God bless.

[@joshuaryan980]

FINALLY IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A VIDEO LIKE THIS FOREVER!!!! YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST THANK YOU SO MICH!!!!!

[@jonray8401]

The thing about science, it’s always changing. I wish I knew this shtuff 20 years ago. Great video 👊

[@fishingwithphil2582]

Dude I live in PA and I need Josh in my life! Dude is just so knowledgeable!!!!

[@bryantrimborn9489]

Great , simple explanation and demo of how to set the stabilizers. Thanks for the videos MFJJ!

[@ponce1521]

Can we get a run down of MFJJ's TAC setup? Release, bow, arrows etc!! Can't wait for all the TAC footage!

[@ElkShape]

When he picks a bow

[@jefflanduyt6750]

FINALLY! The straight answers I've been looking for!

[@Masonm105]

Great video, really learned a lot in a relatively short tutorial. Thanks for all y’all do

[@mikevillarreal8483]

Great information on stabilizers. Makes you think on your setups.

[@stevenmorgan6816]

I've just started working on a rear stabilizer, and I really appreciate this information

[@pfv3462]

Good explanation of how to set the stabilizers! But why do I see the bows tumbling forward after the shot in competition shooters?

[@shawnwiens965]

As always great info from MFJJ and the Elkshape boys. I seriously want to make a pilgrimage to Spokane and get a lesson with Josh and get my set up doped.

[@kevinwright8955]

Another great video. What about adjusting the rear bar on the horizontal axis? That one appears level, but when you would you adjust that up or down?

[@johnarcher9480]

If you aren’t gripping the bow, it should tip forward after the shot. The force of accelerating the arrow is above the fulcrum of the grip. So the bow will want to tip back while accelerating the arrow. A front heavy bow counters that during the shot. The more mass and the further from the fulcrum of the grip, the less forward bias you will need. Another option for tuning weight, you can tip the back bar down to “shorten” it.

[@vancejohnson1778]

Good stuff guys, sweet to see the method to the madness that Is mfjj

[@ElkShape]

Mad scientist

[@RobertKearl-Outdoor-Adventures]

My stabilizer set up has 4oz out front and 5 oz on the side bar , it balances in my hand before the shot and after the shot

[@the4thamigo]

This really helped me. I've seen very little improvements with my stabs on my rx7 ultra. But this really really helped

[@MrFishguy60]

Definitely, a good place to start where you ended up. I would have taken off his stand first. I don't think he is going to hunt with that on there. There is a more technical way to finish off what you accomplished so far. You should try putting a Mantis on that and run several 6-8 shot steadiness score sessions, make some small adjustments and see what you can learn about how much tighter the aiming pattern is once hit the right spot after several 6-8 shot sessions and small adjustments one way or the other. Most people I set up can't believe there is usually more left pressure than they thought they should have to end up with 95%-97% steadiness scores consistently. It's funny how when we start where they thought they had them set the best. The scores are ranging from 83%- 93% over 6-8 shots. When we get done the spread is usually within 2%-3% differences in most of their shots. Along with looking at the images of the sessions from start to finish. The Mantis shows you a target with a pattern of how you drew the bow and how you came to the target and how wide your hold was, it shows your movement and even where you went after the shot. Generally when we start the holding pattern is fairly wide, when we get done we can see how much it has tightened. Great video, that should help some people get on track, you have a really good way of going about what you did there. Not everyone wants to spend 300 Bucks on a Mantis. With the Mantis, you can even play each shot as a video and watch the whole line get drawn on the target from the draw, all the way to after the shot. I learned from it that I drew to the left and came to the target from the left. I was able to correct that by blind bailing, now I draw the bow fairly in line with the target and start a bit on the high side. If you get a chance, give it a try and let me know what you think. If it's worth it, do a stabilizer set up 2.0 video on it. I have two people scheduled for Mantis sessions here real soon at my little bow shop. I will start out by having them shoot some groups after warming up a little at say 40-yards. I will mark all their shots with old vanes I cut off when reflecting arrows. We will do all the Mantis work at 20-yards. Before they leave I have them go back to 40-yards and shoot another group.

[@keithdodson7536]

Short stabilizer syndrome! Lol. U guys are a riot!! Love the vids SVA n Elk Shape very informative and a lil comical to boot.😁🏹

[@rage9720]

Definitely enjoying the new music selections lol

[@ElkShape]

Thanks - TC

[@-lovefromnh]

Perfect! Thanks for sharing as always. TDD!!! -Love from NH

[@HighDesertAdventurer]

Great video. I've never implemented a rear stabilizer. I'm interested in testing a few out on my new v3x. I've noticed how my prior bows would lean to the right with a full quiver, and roll back on the release. May need to go longer with my front stabilizer too. Not sure the 11" b stinger is doing much.

[@ElkShape]

ABT

[@HighDesertAdventurer]

@@ElkShape 2 year proud owner of an easy green press purchased from MFJJ eBay. No shops are open during the tinkering hours.

[@SNAGEMNTAG3M]

I'm literally going to do this tomorrow at the range perfect timing

[@BackcountryAddictions]

Sweet and simple explanation! As always thanks for sharing! Bryce

[@jackbuendgen389]

Great video guys!

[@406Yotes]

Been waiting for this one. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@mikeguy9668]

Love the fauchi reference!! 🤣 🤣

[@peytonhammond8955]

Great video, and helpful, but when I adjust my back bar side to side it doesn’t seem to change my level bubble when anchored in with eyes closed

[@wheresthebourbon]

Great content guys. At the end, what length stabilizers and how much weight on each stabilizer was the best combination for your bow? I really want to add a back bar to my setup, but because I do not live close to a good bow shop, I cannot try out several configurations (without buying multiple). While it will be easy to add and remove weight, I really have no clue what lengths to go with, so any advice/recommendations are appreciated

[@sebastienklein8849]

Why do you set the balance with the tripod rest on the bow? You won't have it on when going to hunt, no?

[@ElkShape]

I hunt with it on!! - tc

[@sebastienklein8849]

@@ElkShape OK can you just explain why?

[@dp5430]

Well done fellas!

[@brandonneff3432]

Great info. Just what I was looking for

[@jonathan_guerrero]

What would you have done next if you tucked that bar as close to the bow as you could and the bow is still tilting to the left? Thanks.

[@ericnadir503]

What length front and rear stabilizers did you end up setting on and how much weight front and rear? Thanks for all the info

[@gratefuldude82]

Thanks for the knowledge fellas! Much appreciated!

[@steventopper4625]

So what was the final length on those front and back stabilizers?

[@tjo-outdoors8514]

I got a question 🙋‍♂️. Currently shooting a v3x 33 and shot my first 3D league and was wondering if getting a trx38 set up would be worth the invest or should strip my 33 if it’s hunting components during the off season and replace with target components. Thanks for the great content I like how it’s to the point short and sweet.

[@ElkShape]

Thank you!! Hard to say.. 33 is certainly capable of being a great target now. ABT

[@ldjbuff]

Another great video guys!

[@erickramer4580]

Awesome info. Thanks. Keep em coming.

[@steven_farmer89]

And here I was about to ask for a more in depth look at stabilizers…great video, you guys have been killing it lately. What about Angle of the stabilizer? Dan drops his 10 degrees, but some people have it straight?

[@chasecampbell7840]

I’ve been wondering the same thing

[@cozycare1655]

The angle just brings the stabilizer’s center of gravity further down and away from your grip…in theory. And angled quick disconnects for front stabs are pretty cheap so its nice to thinker with.

[@ninjazxd]

Wells dam. I never really looked into stabilizers. I was the guy that bought the axion stabilizer they made for the nocam htr because it looks cool and stuck it on my Halon6. It looks cool but I've been wondering why everyone is all stabbed out.

[@robertfazekas4607]

Great content as always. Do you ship items to England?

[@brianlattimer9903]

So the bow should tip slightly forward after shot. Is this a set in stone situation??

[@ElkShape]

Ask MFJJ

[@crazyasian1975]

great video! thanks again for all the great info.

[@hunterslifestyle625]

The shake method is a good drill

[@ryanparent8880]

Can you add what you want for weights on them? If so I'm ordering them now

[@nicolasmora5395]

I really need to over haul my bow this year…. Mfjj makes me feel like I’ve neglected every aspect of tuning the bow.

[@ElkShape]

ABT

[@Dwilhite44]

I liked the faucci reference lol

[@baggedram99]

now what if you have zero weight up front other than the nock on (riddance) doinker dampener thinger with a 12 to 15 bar and say 6oz weight out back on a 10 bar along with the doinker thinger an then top cam drops forward, would you add more weight to the back bar? also how would you determine the rear bar position as far as angled up or down. I see Tim's is angled upward an mine is downward. is that determined at full draw? hope this makes sense

[@pattowle4434]

Question….how much will the tri-stand (or any stand) effect the balance? And do you recommend shooting with or without the stand attached?

[@ElkShape]

I shoot with it on always - TC

[@DBlakeney29]

How do you determine how far up or down (angle) to put the back bar?

[@freedomfam6]

Got my new @elkshape stabilizers on and was wondering about the rubber-looking ring in the middle of Tim's. My guess is that dampens vibration more? How would I get some for mine? I don't see them on the website. Thanks for the info!

[@brianbeck4740]

Hey there, I’m also trying to find these stabilizers. Did you ever find them?

[@freedomfam6]

@@brianbeck4740 yeah, they gave me a set at Spokane valley archery. They just forgot when I bought mine.

[@wadegrinager5866]

Awesome stuff guys Thanks you ! Ps it’s stab not stabe or just say stabilizers

[@baggedram99]

stupid random question. is the tight spot quiver tighter to the riser than the mathews web quiver? the older style web. and which weighs less?

[@Liam-ql7tr]

LOL... good one " arguing with me you are arguing with science".

[@ydoicappa]

a 34 inch front and 20 back is good or the back is to big? thanks

[@steventurner83]

If I’m not running a front stabilizer but want to run a back stabilizer to offset the quiver with arrows in it, would this be that same set up procedures?

[@BY-dq3mt]

Why balance the bow with limb legs attached? Do you leave the legs on permanently?

[@ElkShape]

Shoot with them on yes! And hunt too

[@bobbydye8232]

If I’ve adjusted my back bar as far as possible towards the string and still not getting level, is it okay to move the stabilizer to the opposite side in order to get level? Assuming my grip is good.

[@_elijah_anderson]

I see the drop angle on the front stabilizer, is there a reason for that? I’m curious, I run a 12” off my front but it goes straight out.

[@Coe221]

Any specific quick disconnect work for these?

[@garethpearson7155]

The back stabiliser looked bigger than 8”, what size was it?

[@quintinkale1242]

Mfjj is pure gold

[@quintinkale1242]

Can’t wait to send my new ( old stock ) elite impulse 31 out there for a set of strings, hopefully he can level my new Montana black gold mountain lite second axis, and get it tuned up. Considering his stabilizers thinking a 15 front 10 back but idk. It’s my project now for my upcoming fall elk hunt in plains Montana, I’m from north east Ohio and just want to say thanks for all the knowledge you guys share

[@highdesertnation1285]

Master class with MFJJ

[@Rokslide]

Good advice. No argument here. Just need to try it.

[@sjmonty19]

Shouldn't you have a arrow missing seeing how that's how you would hunt?

[@godric4942]

My wife likes the hook in my stabilizer 😂

[@joshvang8372]

Do you really need a rear bar?

[@christopheracosta9823]

MFJJ do you guys sell the Mini Elk target???? An could I get it shipped to Vegas?????

[@ElkShape]

Boom! elkshape.com/products/rinehart-1-3-scale-woodland-mini-elk-archery-target

[@joekemnitz2212]

Sooo I’m not supposed to breathe while at full draw? Why?

[@hellcatoutdoors]

Well I know what I’m re setting up tomorrow

[@YITSOG]

Great info

[@MickeyD-ns2sy]

Ok, you're ridiculously wrong.....well, maybe not so much😅 Good video, as usual.

[@travisknob8944]

gosh i wish i lived closer to MFJJ shop colorado just little far lol

[@douglasscholl4681]

Great demo. Now someone peel off Tim's 3rd axis sticker....

[@iamSofaK1nG]

Tim, why so much poundage on the bow? You plan on killing an elephant?

[@ElkShape]

It’s a comfortable draw weight for me.. but this off season I’m going to have a setup with less draw weight to practice technique - tc

[@tommurphy6972]

Great info thanks

[@ElkShape]

Of course G!

[@jimr7154]

Thanks Great video

[@ElkShape]

Thanks Jim!

[@jimr7154]

Lol Wish I had seen it about 6 months ago had to figure it out on my own but as you say ABT 👍

[@algon1986]

MFJJ Archery Yoda!!

[@zacharyclark8905]

Do a fletching video please

[@ElkShape]

Word!

[@chadcoats5282]

Not being critical but may want to have mfjj check your grip. Bow looks like it's moving right at shot then you are correcting it back to left after the shot. Watch the video and you will see it

[@bryanparryhunter]

"If you're arguing with me, you're arguing with science." _looks at America_

[@koluj808]

I believe and trust you MFJJ way more than Fauci!

[@nickkautzman9711]

Your totally wrong, you start with the stabilizers and match the bow to them.

[@joshuaryan980]

Much*😐

[@stephenlaney_bjj]

bent carrot is bad

[@ElkShape]

Lol

[@chrissavidge6202]

You said nothing about weight come on dude

[@jayonez137]

Great video guys!