HOW TO Setup The KYOSHO MP10 For SAVOYA - Without Balls...

[@miguelvelez116]

man this is rc college i appreciate this thank you

[@jukiranks]

This video and the one on tuning are the most informative rc videos I've ever seen. This man is like rc jedi.

[@invisiblespeedrc]

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[@jerryfrazee4962]

Great job! Please keep the videos coming. The combination of theory and science with the driving videos to show what happens on the track really ties it together. I like your sense of humor too!

[@wyattgaskins9363]

great video, I understand this video very well coming from an the associated to the mp10. The kyosho works for my driving style which is more based on finding grip throughout most of the turn, not so much sliding. There needs to be a follow up to this after Reno does some testing.

[@wilmarfranssen5413]

Very interesting video! What was missing in this analysis is the interaction of steer angles of the negative and positive scrub radius. This effects the "jacking". With positive scrub, the jacking makes the inside (read unloaded) contact patch move in z direction, down. The opposite applies to the outside, loaded wheel. This in turn creates a geometric "pro" roll effect in the front axle, which is carried across all contact patches. This in turn creates a greater delta of load on the rear axle from side to side, depending on the roll stiffness. Now with negative scrub, this effect will be reduced or in extreme setups even the opposite. This effects what will happen with the load transfer across the rear tyres. But all these effects are amplified or reduced with higher or lower roll stiffness from both the springs and ARBs. This effect as described above is strongest in maximum steer angle (read mid corner), but will to a lesser degree effect the entry and exit while having lock on the steering. Overall the video is a nice summary, keep them coming!

[@dawsonawe]

A master class. Nice work. I like the format that you have in collaborating with the best drivers out there. Kudos to your guests as well for being open about their setup up and driving preferences. It takes experts as a host and guests to create insight like this. Keep it up.

[@mumuch76]

Always so surprising this Mr JQ, I found it super interesting. Altruistic, proud or thirsty for knowledge, I like it.

[@craigromero5921]

JQ Haven't been watching yours videos until recently. All I have to say is keep it up belive or not the rc industry needs your content its great for both beginners and experts also entertaining.

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[@rcjerz]

Nice video this was an awesome watch, really enjoy the diagrams and also the talk interviews. It’s refreshing to see both of you talk more naturally. Looking forward to more videos!

[@buggyfanatic4708]

Just finished to watch it and the video analysis were super interesting. Great job JQ and Savoya 👍 I think this tech videos/interviews are a win win for the content producer, the rc community and the rc brand represented by Pro Drivers. Too bad for who is missing intentionally this interesting opportunity of collaboration.

[@Flygio]

Best explanation ever. You couldn't do this video better.

[@philfernandez6306]

love the video JQ. I like how you really go in depth on how a pro drives .... very very valuable information. A follow up video from Reno should be awesome (if he runs your setup suggestions). Keep those videos coming.

[@lesreeder4357]

I found this very interesting, keep it up JQ its really interesting watching and I like they way you present yourself, well done.

[@Hmaxis]

Great, awesome and super informative video. It is longer, but full of information and i was unable to go out in middle and I must watch it till the end. I am waiting for more videos and for your book, hope it will be released soon.

[@TheCarTakerGarage]

AMAZING video!!!!The best Rc/setup/1/8th scale/ video i have seen ever.The info is spot on..and the "vibe" of the "talk" is also spot on :) Loved it..and makes me want to get back into Rc buggy driving .Thank you .Greetings from Norway ,Stefan

[@brianvierra-gonzalez7465]

Thanks really good information you put out. Made me really think more about my setup and my driving style. Will be changing and testing alot more.

[@mayank4x]

Such a lovely discussion that only a certain bandwidth of Car/physics fanatics can digest. Best data on rc suspension geometry on youtube.

[@tomereitan]

Pure gold. Keep it coming Joseph.

[@benwatson9531]

I was going to work on my MP10 but this video was so good I had to stop and pay attention. Now I’ve got some ideas to try over here in America 😁. Looking forward to a follow up video!

[@niorevo]

hello, you have already talked about srub radius in the past, and it is a very interesting topic, it is really a pleasure to have you J, who will reveal the hidden secrets of the dynamics of the RC world, keep it up!

[@rcmindset2876]

The amazing thing about people with ego issues that they can be fired from their own racing team but still have the balls to tell a racer with a job how to drive and how they can improve. If this individual took his own advise he might still have a job. It’s overwhelming how ego can blind people to the point that this video exists.

[@rocatoons3713]

@JQRacingtv I can tell that you set the bar for Yt content really high. Please keep it up, this is tremendous stuff! May you be for RC racing, what Malcom Wilson is for rallying. Cheers from Portugal

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Thank you. If people support enough on patreon then yes. That is really the only way I can make some money back for all time an effort. I will do this for a year and see.

[@rocatoons3713]

​@@invisiblespeedrc you said you´re comitting to a year. Well, I´ll support you on Patreon for that amount of time, using this as aditional motivation to support my own weight financially. Nitro burning included xD Keep going at it, I can´t support you the way iI would like to, but I really do believe in your work. Cassius out

[@MrLilChilly]

Great video and scientific breakdown of the 2 basic types of chassis suspension. Look forward to the next episode 🏎💨💯👊👊💪💪👍👍

[@tartarelaurent4536]

Best vidéo ever!! After see this vidéo, C hub for life for me! Good job JQ ;)

[@axelowyen1583]

Best video yet. Surprised you didn’t bring up the JQ KPI option parts and how they get you closer to that ball life.

[@invisiblespeedrc]

I’m just not a very good salesman!

[@darrenjohnston3722]

Another awesome informative video. Keep it up JQ.

[@motoray69]

Cant wait for the follow up!

[@lillitettrc90]

So interesting! There so many things to try! Thanks for this awesome content JQ! By the way, I think a C-hub car with different knuckles and hubs options front and rear would be awesome so we can play with the feeling of the car.

[@buggyfanatic4708]

thumbs up for the Timestamps 👊 ... super useful!!

[@gillesfatton]

Great tech talk, with humor and enineering mixed. Good racing videao samples to try to demonstrate. I am amazed. Congratulation !

[@JhKimble]

Would definitely be fun to see a stand off video C-Hub VS Pivot Ball.

[@gilbobaggins1545]

Awesome video. I love the tech stuff, just wish I could actually understand what the effects of a change have on a car. Looking forward to more like it

[@jaumefiguls8378]

Great video JQ!!

[@diaz.rodolfo]

More videos like this please!

[@invisiblespeedrc]

If you like, subscribe and become a patron! 🔥

[@Kutless1308]

This video is absolutely fascinating.

[@theothomavideo]

Very interesting video !!! I can’t wait to know Reno Savoya’s feedback. You are doing great mate 💪💪 Keep going.

[@JhKimble]

Amazing content... Thank you

[@antoniomancino8171]

amazing job! this is what we need, this is what our rc world need...thanks for that, really thanks for all!

[@spunkysandoval]

Fantastic analysis

[@Deathdezine]

Thanks JQ. This made me think about different things to try on my TLR to get more rear grip. When is the JQ The Guide V2 aka “JQ Bible” coming out.

[@D70racing]

Really great video, tons of insight on setup. Love this type of content and personality I crave more of it. I’ve only driven pillow ball (Mugen) myself, but am really interested in learning more about C hub and the pros and cons to running either. Oh, and I really want your setup book, any info on where and when to get it?

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Still hoping for before Christmas. Pre orders start soon

[@jdnic1]

Just raced against an 8ight xe today and it does roast me on turns. Atleast against my 8ight 4.0. and now I know why.

[@richbc517]

good job joseph for all the insight from the pros..i hope u can interview all the pros from all over the world

[@invisiblespeedrc]

There are some that I can’t because they don’t want to, and some whose sponsors are morons and won’t let them.

[@theothomavideo]

@@invisiblespeedrc which ones ? Elliott Boots ?

[@richbc517]

its a top secret for some ...well understood

[@sebtarta]

JQ thank you so much on these videos! Please keep up the great work. Any chance we will have one about shocks?

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Yes but not now

[@richadoxley4121]

I found this theory on how pivot ball and c hub cars differ and which way the front wheels try to turn when you accelerate and brake depending on the offset of the scrub radius very interesting. This got me thinking could you do a video proveing this theory by simply disconnecting the track rods and driving the car in a straight line then braking. Very curious to see the results

[@ferndiswanso8640]

rebound capable steering there was this idea on a street bike I had though there wasn't a stiff spring to act for stability

[@Al3xisAE]

We need the follow up balls video.....

[@Lolrc3852]

Amazing video!!! I drive with "BALLS" and I will try your settings.

[@melmarks3854]

get it done!

[@xXLeCHuGaMeRXx]

this video is so f*cking good. Best i have ever seen

[@benchtalkrc6895]

Great video

[@tacofry4768]

Agreed with the comments here that there's more info in this video than any amount of setup books out there. Always had a dream to create a pillow ball car with more inward shocks to straighten that fulcrum it has, especially on exit. I feel you can afford to gain some front grip coming out of a corner and be able to wind a little extra negative toe on the rear tyres. Just a pipe dream I guess 😅😅

[@ChrisVegas1000]

Yes , Friday is Save for entertainment and grab a beer or two or three

[@andriusgedvilas4125]

Super video! I really like "the science mode"!!

[@andriusgedvilas4125]

By the way what I missed is which category all other brands fall into: C, Ballz or missmach :)

[@LIV3FAST88]

Awesome insight on the two designs, kind of tied together your previous live discussions on the topic.. So if you want the rear to turn less on power with a mugen, what would you do? Wider hex?

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Will make a video about it next week

[@TheGregoss95]

Really good job This vidéo IS Amazing 👍👏👏👏

[@ashermorales8276]

The pivot ball handling is perfect for me. I can enter aggressive by forcing the car to under steer and once the front starts to turn I can get on the throttle and the car will just turn.

[@nigelw.9043]

Great video with an amazing level of insight into car design, geometry and setup. This is a must watch for any RC Car designer (copy cat) out there. Oh and I realize I am fu$$ed with my TLR 8ight :D

[@perhaps394]

Great video. My question is , can a kyosho rear end fit a mugen

[@EmilianoCarlesi]

Great video! Thanks a lot :)

[@DANDY476]

Grande DAVIDE ONGARO ! Dopo Redovan, non esistono altri piloti! 😊

[@grallienpabloll762]

Very good explanation 👏..

[@diomisisalisandratos8362]

Kyosho just need some kingpin angle. I run my mp10 with 4 degrees and it's fantastic. C-hub is the best but only with kp angle

[@diomisisalisandratos8362]

@Gašper Mihelič HB114621 HB109821 HB111739

[@diomisisalisandratos8362]

@Gašper Mihelič No problem. How can I find you in FB?

[@stanleyw808]

Joe.. How about Narrow vs. Wide inner Rear Suspension Pivot point in relation with the Front Steering assembly Type? AE RC8.2 is going back to Narrow Rear Pivot point.

[@lawton70]

Was there ever a follow up video done? It would be interesting to hear his findings from all the suggestions!

[@invisiblespeedrc]

No not yet

[@curtiswong4221]

I love all the tech info JQ! But I think the best part is that you're getting guys on that people think you have a beef with and clear the air. When you getting Drake on?

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Drake won’t even go on the podcast so probably never. He is a snowflake

[@bartementvincent3676]

Thanks for this Great vidéo. So interesting interview with our amazing national pro pilot Reno Savoya! Can you do the same in French Because your french seems perfect😉 Anyway would be great to have a video from you about disavantages and advantages of c-hub and balls. Greetings from Burgundy in France

[@codywichman213]

Can you do this for more aspects of the suspension and car? This is very interesting

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Only if you like and subscribe and send me $5 a month on Patreon 🔥🤣👍🏽

[@runafre]

Amazing

[@briancarroll6245]

Very informative 👏👍🇮🇪

[@tiger200350]

This was actually a great video. So, can one make the assumption that the pillow ball car will allow you to brake later?

[@ferndiswanso8640]

I want a few "pb" mounting points like rods attached to the hub

[@testedrc]

the fight between JQ and Reno started from when my front gear box was opened in Worlds Argentina... LOL

[@invisiblespeedrc]

No it didn’t but that’s where the quote is from

[@TheBitchSaidSo]

JQ- What are your thoughts of using a harder compound tire on the rear. Wouldn’t it free up the rear ended.

[@invisiblespeedrc]

But you dont want the front having any more grip also

[@Streisnd94]

Could you do this analysis for scrub radius and offset in the rear also for the Tekno NB48.2 please? :D

[@invisiblespeedrc]

F*ck tekno. Ask Maifield

[@Streisnd94]

@@invisiblespeedrc 🤣 wasn‘t expecting that

[@ferndiswanso8640]

what if you had cornering rebound

[@ferndiswanso8640]

can there be an rc track with bind enabled steering wheel and pedal

[@techsx]

We are waiting for the next video JQ

[@invisiblespeedrc]

I just posted one yesterday! Take it easy! lol

[@Cylcopath_GR]

One question regarding rear Mugen arms.why they did go from narrow arms mount -mbx6 to wide ones in mbx7-mbx8?

[@invisiblespeedrc]

I honestly don’t know

[@muggymaniac]

Good interview! Is there a chance that you can do a video of the science, of the invisible power! Aka! the importance of the clutch and how without the proper set up tune means nothing! That's my theory! Thanks jq your the man!🕵

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Maybe one day

[@toysforboysrc]

I’m electric and not nitro so technique is a tiny bit different…. I LOVE to be able to drift… IMO it gives me a little bit more time to position my car or make corrections while I’m in the actual drift. Just a little throttle or less throttle, more or less steer… while in the actual drift, your movements are a little more forgiving. You may loose time while in the drift but… we also loose time turning early with too much grip and having to re-correct can be more fatal bcs you could end up in an unpredictable place… but a drift.. once your in the drift zone it’s more forgiving… IMO…

[@steph8633]

thank you, very interesting! (le bonjour de france Reno ;) ), lol when i think i'm riding a tlr truggy and a team asso buggy it seems like weird after seeing this video :p (I will have to try an asso truggy or a mugen, honestly I really like how the buggy team asso behaves)

[@htrabpr]

Are there cars using a combination of c-hub and pivot ball type suspension? Say one type in the front and the other in the rear. Might this then cause both ends to "fight" to control the car? Very nice video BTW!!!!

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Can please watch the video before you ask?

[@htrabpr]

@@invisiblespeedrc sure thing!!! I did not finished the video before my comment.

[@devon5590]

My favourite 1:8 nitro nerd

[@ChrisVegas1000]

Wow now that was some serious shit , I fucking love it . The way you explained the different options and what they could do are definitely the best I ve ever heard of and seen . Great details of showing the ART of Geometry and what it effects . I need a Beer now and on the weekend I will try some of that stuff on the track . THX JQ the Captain ClubRace is done :)

[@invisiblespeedrc]

No he is the captain clubrace, I aim higher ☝🏽🤣

[@ChrisVegas1000]

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[@charlesbonkley]

Being that I have an MP10 and MP10e, this video was freakin' awesome! I need to try to understand the longer rear arm vs. inward rear hub thing vs. thin hex. Savoya is also running a long servo horn, so this may be making the steering too quick causing too much rotation earlier. Just my own village idiot 2 cents.

[@ferndiswanso8640]

When was the last time you broke a diff gear

[@chief19fs]

So just a question I run the old school Ofna pc hyper 7 it has balls front and rear would the effect be the same as you explain where on power wheels want to toe out.. sense balls are in front and back..

[@tacofry4768]

I read eons ago that reno actually grew up filling his diffs with grease? Equivalent to around 50-75k diff fluid. Would probably explain his high entry speeds just to get the car to rotate. I found that fascinating 😂 i read one of his setup sheets from around the Thailand era and it was 50k-50k-20k or something ridiculous 😂😂😂

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Back in the day people often ran heavier diffs in general. Grease would be the thinnest possible.

[@dominiqueolives7341]

Savoya has just win the 2021 Championship….with no balls!!! Congrats to him

[@slimjimmcsausage1279]

Just curious where you found Reno setup sheets?

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Google

[@ferndiswanso8640]

I'm in the first few seconds and I'm already giggles the kiwi qehehe qhehe

[@ferndiswanso8640]

I wanna jump past spacers and use a dial with a spring internally

[@charlesbonkley]

2:00:05 - I'd like to hear back from Savoya if he tried the piston combos. I have yet to see a pro setup sheet reference anything other than the seemingly de facto standard of 8x1.2mm + 8x1.3mm. Also, I am curious to know why Reno says that 5x1.5mm is "never fast." Is it because of less pack, so he needs to wait on the car to rebound after landing or something before laying on the the throttle? Furthermore, Kyosho chose to put the 5x1.5mm pistons in the ebuggy only (MP9e & MP10e), as the default, for some reason. I'd like to try to understand why that decision was made by Kanai. IDK, all this shit is so confusing...

[@nomi86cool]

Compare entry level racing engines please

[@dreja123]

If I understand the pivot ball car needs rear end set in a different way than a C-hub car. And vice versa. But looking at basic setup sheets, Xray has 2019 xb8e buggy with the same rear end setup for both pivot ball and c-hub front end. Do you have any comments on this? Because (unfortunatley) I've got an xb8e buggy with only C-hubs. Any idea what settings could I try to modify? Thanks

[@bricoletout]

Your French is very good !(from a Frenchie!)

[@invisiblespeedrc]

Did I say it right?

[@bricoletout]

@@invisiblespeedrc yes, there is just one word I don't understand. The word before "célèbre".

[@invisiblespeedrc]

@@bricoletout youtube keeps deleting my reply. It's from a monty python sketch and means celebrity/famous man that loves men....

[@ferndiswanso8640]

Linear steering ?

[@levrone0075]

18:10 c-hub vs pivot balls